Yea, I read that BF. I feel bad for the 76 Topps guy. This is my 1st submission. I sent 99 cards and 5 packs. I went over all of them with a 30 power scope. It took me a week to select the 99 I sent in. I was hoping 9's and 10's. After reading the proceeding pages, I am now worried.
@chuckman said:
Yea, I read that BF. I feel bad for the 76 Topps guy. This is my 1st submission. I sent 99 cards and 5 packs. I went over all of them with a 30 power scope. It took me a week to select the 99 I sent in. I was hoping 9's and 10's. After reading the proceeding pages, I am now worried.
I hear that. A guy that has been doing this for 35 years (I think he said that long) was off on the grades as much as he said, I really have to wonder what mine might be. LOL
I was hoping there was something I was not factoring in. That's insane.
Thanks
I think it will actually end up closer to your original estimate. I wish I was joking but once they re-open and get a flood of new submissions at higher service levels, all the value service levels, Economy and Collectors Club subs are not going to get a sudden emphasis in a soundly run business.
So yes, I am thinking it will probably be closer to 2.7 years than 12 months based on a reasonable interpretation of the data we have been provided, the difference in profitability (if you can grade and bill for one scrap of cardboard for $8 or a different one for $150, that’s a no brainer) and my belief that PSA will be flooded with cards at every service level they open.
While all incoming orders have been inputted which is great progress, there is no stated goal of completing any percentage of it and I don’t see much of a dent in the largest and most backlogged areas - bulk, economy (which now also has every CC sub that used to be considered Regular) and/value.
As the tiers at $300, $150, $75 etc reopen? Those card can, will and need to get priority.
As referenced above?
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
@blurryface said:
for those that subbed packs prior to october 1 and while i havent gotten any back yet myself, ive heard they started shipping some out yesterday.
My packs arrived 10/13 but weren’t logged until 1/14 - do you think that means I’m a few weeks away, or a few months away? I know you don’t have a crystal ball, but just curious if “subbed” in your statement aligns more closely with “arrived” or “entered”... Thanks either way for the info.
if i had to guess, you will probably be in 2 months time.
it's looking like this batch was for packs actually logged by 11/15ish time period.
grote will probably give you a little better insight into how often psa sends bbce the packs and when.
eta: actually, i might push my guesstimate out another month. your log date is right on the bubble of that first massive influx they talked about after the first price increase, i think.
Thanks. That’s kinda what I figured. I sent 2 subs in together that were both entered in Oct - one pre1981 and the other post1981. The pre1981 was logged in Nov and came back to me in March - I figured I was still 2-3 months out on the newer packs based on other pack sub feedback in this thread, but I was hoping your message might have been a sign of things moving faster than normal. Oh well.
I think it will actually end up closer to your original estimate. I wish I was joking but once they re-open and get a flood of new submissions at higher service levels, all the value service levels, Economy and Collectors Club subs are not going to get a sudden emphasis in a soundly run business.
So yes, I am thinking it will probably be closer to 2.7 years than 12 months based on a reasonable interpretation of the data we have been provided, the difference in profitability (if you can grade and bill for one scrap of cardboard for $8 or a different one for $150, that’s a no brainer) and my belief that PSA will be flooded with cards at every service level they open.
That is really bad news. I have spent almost 3 weeks choosing and prepping another 300 cards. I was going to wait and see how I did on the first order before submitting. At this rate it will be four years. Now I am not sure what I will do. Maybe wait till the market crashes again.
I think it will actually end up closer to your original estimate. I wish I was joking but once they re-open and get a flood of new submissions at higher service levels, all the value service levels, Economy and Collectors Club subs are not going to get a sudden emphasis in a soundly run business.
So yes, I am thinking it will probably be closer to 2.7 years than 12 months based on a reasonable interpretation of the data we have been provided, the difference in profitability (if you can grade and bill for one scrap of cardboard for $8 or a different one for $150, that’s a no brainer) and my belief that PSA will be flooded with cards at every service level they open.
That is really bad news. I have spent almost 3 weeks choosing and prepping another 300 cards. I was going to wait and see how I did on the first order before submitting. At this rate it will be four years. Now I am not sure what I will do. Maybe wait till the market crashes again.
I don’t think it goes the full 2.7 years. And if you’ve done the work? Send them in. Though maybe cull them down again and when you send them in, maybe do it in smaller, staggered batches.
The idea that wait times will improve at lower service levels seems unrealistic BUT I’m a total amateur. Don’t go by me. Either way, PSA is the best and I don’t see an alternative to getting in line.
They’ve certainly made a TON of improvements over the last 5 years. This is a major issue that I hope they’re able to add to the ‘crisis solved’ pile soon.
They’ve got an elephant to eat. Only way to do it is one bite at a time.
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
I may finally see my small order hopefully soon lol.
Order Type: CC vouchers
Card total: 2
Order delivered: 10-27
Order received per PSA: 11-20
Research & ID: 11-20
Grading: 4-8
Assembly: 5-13
QA1: 5-28
QA2: 5-28
Shipped:
1 1 62723036 Item Grade: NEAR MINT-MINT 8
Auto Grade: GEM MT 10 2021 Topps X Trevor Lawrence 21A Trevor Lawrence Autograph-Teal PSA/DNA Certified Card
2 1 62723037 Item Grade: MINT 9
Auto Grade: GEM MT 10 2021 Topps X Trevor Lawrence 11A Trevor Lawrence Autograph-Red PSA/DNA Certified Card
notes: not mine. subbed for a couple buddies. diehard clemson fans. buddy on line one has ripped 15 boxes and sold a single box to buddy on line two. red is /5 and graded higher. classic! weve all been there.
grades were correct. will say, the sub went smooth. of course it should at $300 a pop.
Not that this helps many in this thread, but thought I'd share that a ticket reholder - talk about an outlier sub - popped this week in case anyone dabbles in tickets.
Arrived - 4/26
Entered - 5/17
Shipped - 6/1 (back to the future!!!)
I have another fresh ticket grade sub in flight (arrived 3/18, entered 5/14), in case that helps any ticket graders out there.
I received my 15 free cc order back a few weeks ago. Overall disappointed with the grades, just about everything came back a grade or two below from what I was expecting. Only one 9 with the rest being 7's and 8's. I am not complaining as my last several orders were very Good. I typically send in 70's and 80's cards and have developed a pretty good eye for submitting over the last couple years. The majority of my cards usually come back 8's and 9's with a few 10's sprinkled in, so this order was definitely tighter than expected. I have a couple more value orders logged in, who knows when I will get those back but hope to have better luck with them. As for this order, here are some pics of the highlights, these are all super sharp, dead centered with good print. Thought these should have graded higher, but you guys can judge for yourself.
I think that PSA's new grading tech. (microscope, machine grading etc) has helped cause lower grades, along with new graders. The cards I received last week were at least one lower grade than ones dupes I have sent before. My question is...does anyone think the cards graded with the new ID #s 500 etc. will be preceived to be a higher quality or grade than past ones.? Those 7s above look at least as good as previous 8's or more.
@1959 said:
I think that PSA's new grading tech. (microscope, machine grading etc) has helped cause lower grades, along with new graders. The cards I received last week were at least one lower grade than ones dupes I have sent before. My question is...does anyone think the cards graded with the new ID #s 500 etc. will be preceived to be a higher quality or grade than past ones.? Those 7s above look at least as good as previous 8's or more.
at the very least. more so, i think in a year or two, existing 10s values will get dragged up in value significantly. however, i do not think the “new 10” being equivalent to a bgs black label 10 marketing ploy/effect is good for the overall hobby. thats definitely a “buy the flip” scenario.
one could counter with “grading scales have gotten tighter since exception” and would be correct. however i think that is natural. early 10s were given out and sort of needed. however the collecting community as a whole evolved into a “buy the card not the holder”. and psa has been in business for over 20 years. with something as subjective, opinion based & easily open to scrutiny, consistency needs to be key. hence the crackdown on crackouts. obviously new management understands this concept. however its basically a laughable situation when you want to be consistent on certain valued cards but show such overall inconsistency on the overwhelmingly majority of cards that are being returned now.
My CC voucher received 12/5 and logged 12/23 been in q2 for a week or so. Along with 2 economy orders also in q2 for a week. My sub that popped 5/21 still waiting to ship ( fyi)
seems they are working on cc vouchers recvd by nov '20 right now.
Super Express CTD jumped 7 days and value vintage jumped 2 days. No other movement on the CTD today from yesterday. Quarterly specials has not moved since 5/17 and it is still the furthest behind with a CTD of 8/9/20. Nice sub by the way!
@OAKESY25 - I hope that lag in shipping doesn't mean something was damaged in assembly or as they were about to ship and it's just slow because it's slow.
OK guys. Looks like they are knocking out the value modern right now. Had my second order pop. I was really disappointed on how harsh they were with my 76's as they were truly some of the nicest I've seen. A few members pointed out some printing flaws in some of the cards that I may have missed though.
This sub comprised of all of my best 75's a few 76's I decided to send later, and some odds and ends. I didn't think the 75's were as nice as the 76's and my expectations of this sub were much lower, although they were pretty strong cards. Most were comprised of maybe 4 sets that I had combined. I'm pleasantly surprised by the grades on the HOFers, as the Carolton was the only one that I thought was really high end. I think a couple of the MVP cards are undergraded, namely the Mickey Mantle/Hank Aaron as those were the one's that I thought were super high end. But overall no complaints about this sub. They have always been very hard on 75's so I see no difference with these grades as I have my past grades. I'm walking off the ledge, lol...
PS - I always mix one or two weird duds in my subs and I managed to avoid that for the most part here. A couple of random 6's and nothing lower on 75's isn't all too bad for me at least.
101 card modern value
arrived 7/23/2020
entered 9/18/2020
popped 6/2/2021
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 49683378 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1972 O-Pee-Chee 325 Mel Stottlemyre Card
2 1 49683379 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 370 Tom Seaver Card
3 1 49683380 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 616 Rookie Outfielders Card
4 1 49683381 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 Topps 464 World Series Game 4 Card
5 1 49683382 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 217 Lou Piniella Card
6 1 49683383 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 454 Doug Griffin Card
7 1 49683384 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 98 Rich Folkers Card
8 1 49683385 MINT 9 1975 Topps 327 Jerry Hairston Card
9 1 49683386 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 336 Rennie Stennett Card
10 1 49683387 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 19 Jerry Koosman Card
11 1 49683388 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 254 Mike Torrez Card
12 1 49683389 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 220 Don Sutton Card
13 1 49683390 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 214 Harry Parker Card
14 1 49683391 MINT 9 1975 Topps 213 Oscar Gamble Card
15 1 49683392 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 208 1970-MVP's Boog Powell/Johnny Bench Card
16 1 49683393 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 312 Strikeout Leaders Nolan Ryan/Steve Carlton Card
17 1 49683394 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 196 1958-MVP's Jackie Jensen/Ernie Banks Card
18 1 49683395 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 181 Fred Beene Card
19 1 49683396 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 128 Bill Lee Card
20 1 49683397 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 63 Steve Swisher Card
21 1 49683398 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 58 Chuck Taylor Card
22 1 49683399 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 206 1968-MVP's Denny McLain/Bob Gibson Card
23 1 49683400 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 328 Sonny Siebert Card
24 1 49683401 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 516 Don Hood Card
25 1 49683402 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 197 1959-MVP's Nellie Fox/Ernie Banks Card
26 1 49683403 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 240 Garry Maddox Card
27 1 49683404 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 68 Ron Blomberg Card
28 1 49683405 MINT 9 1975 Topps 72 Royals Team Jack McKeon, Mgr. Card
29 1 49683406 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 Topps 47 Tommy John Card
30 1 49683407 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 Topps 204 1966-MVP's Frank Robinson/Roberto Clemente Card
31 1 49683408 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 25 Lee May Card
32 1 49683409 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 529 Gary Thomasson Card
33 1 49683410 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 548 Charlie Sands Card
34 1 49683411 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 522 Gary Sutherland Card
35 1 49683412 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 195 1957-MVP's Mickey Mantle/Hank Aaron Card
36 1 49683413 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 193 1955-MVP's Yogi Berra/Roy Campanella Card
37 1 49683414 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 177 Vic Correll Card
38 1 49683415 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 303 Grant Jackson Card
39 1 49683416 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 Topps 20 Thurman Munson Card
40 1 49683417 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 622 Rookie Outfielders Card
41 1 49683418 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 623 Rookie Infielders Card
42 1 49683419 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 176 Burt Hooton Card
43 1 49683420 MINT 9 1975 Topps 107 Jim Barr Card
44 1 49683421 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 74 Mark Belanger Card
45 1 49683422 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 44 Pat Dobson Card
46 1 49683423 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 Topps 1 '74 Highlights Hank Aaron Card
47 1 49683424 MINT 9 1975 Topps 35 Ron Santo Card
48 1 49683425 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 228 George Brett Card
49 1 49683426 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 600 Rod Carew Card
50 1 49683427 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 335 Jim Palmer Card
51 1 49683428 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 70 Mike Schmidt Card
52 1 49683429 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 320 Pete Rose Card
53 1 49683430 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 203 1965-MVP's Zoilo Versalles/Willie Mays Card
54 1 49683431 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 620 Rookie Catchers-Outfielders Card
55 1 49683432 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 5 '74 Highlights Nolan Ryan Card
56 1 49683433 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 Topps 21 Rollie Fingers Card
57 1 49683434 MINT 9 1975 Topps 185 Steve Carlton Card
58 1 49683435 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 180 Joe Morgan Card
59 1 49683436 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 130 Phil Niekro Card
60 1 49683437 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 100 Willie Stargell Card
61 1 49683438 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 260 Johnny Bench Card
62 1 49683439 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 640 Harmon Killebrew Card
63 1 49683440 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 Topps 530 Gaylord Perry Card
64 1 49683441 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 194 1956-MVP's Mickey Mantle/Don Newcombe Card
65 1 49683442 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 66 Willie Horton Card
66 1 49683443 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 355 Steve Carlton Card
67 1 49683444 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 500 Reggie Jackson Card
68 1 49683445 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 1 Hank Aaron Card
69 1 49683446 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1980 Topps 270 Mike Schmidt Card
70 1 49683447 MINT 9 1981 Topps 469 Jeff Leonard Card
71 1 49683448 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 284 Brian Kingman Card
72 1 49683449 MINT 9 1981 Topps 519 John Tamargo Card
73 1 49683450 NEAR MINT 7 1983 Donruss 598 Tony Gwynn Card
74 1 49683451 MINT 9 1984 Topps 310 Willie McGee Card
75 1 49683452 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Donruss 190 Dwight Gooden Card
76 1 49683453 MINT 9 1985 Donruss 295 Don Mattingly Card
77 1 49683454 MINT 9 1986 Donruss 39 Jose Canseco Card
78 1 49683455 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 46 Mark McGwire Card
79 1 49683456 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Donruss 361 Barry Bonds Card
80 1 49683457 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Donruss 66 Will Clark Card
81 1 49683458 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 35 Bo Jackson Card
82 1 49683459 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 36 Greg Maddux Card
83 1 49683460 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 492 Barry Larkin Card
84 1 49683461 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 492 Barry Larkin Card
85 1 49683462 GEM MINT 10 2013 Topps Update US259 Nolan Arenado Card
86 1 49683463 MINT 9 2012 Bowman Sterling Autograph Prospects FL Francisco Lindor Card
87 1 49683464 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2015 Panini Elite Extra Edition 1 Yoan Moncada Prospects Signature Card
88 1 49683465 MINT 9 2012 Bowman Platinum Jumbo Relic Autograph Ajrgc Gerrit Cole Card
89 1 49683466 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2000 Upper Deck Ionix UD Authentics MR Manny Ramirez UD Authentics Card
90 1 49683467 MINT 9 2016 Bowman Prospects BCP148 Yoan Moncada Chrome-Gold Refractor Card
91 1 49683468 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Hoops 65 Michael Jordan Card
92 1 49683469 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Hoops 65 Michael Jordan Card
93 1 49683470 NEAR MINT 7 1990 Hoops 5 Michael Jordan All-Star Card
94 1 49683471 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1990 Hoops 5 Michael Jordan All-Star Card
95 1 49683472 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2003 Topps 224 Chris Bosh Collection Card
96 1 49683473 GEM MINT 10 2003 Topps 223 Carmelo Anthony Collection Card
97 1 49683474 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2003 Topps 225 Dwyane Wade Collection Card
98 1 49683475 MINT 9 1989 Pro Set 486 Deion Sanders Card
99 1 49683476 MINT 9 1989 Pro Set 498 Derrick Thomas Card
100 1 49683477 MINT 9 1989 Pro Set 490 Troy Aikman Card
101 1 49683478 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2007 Leaf Rookies & Stars Materials 58 Tom Brady Gold Card
Jeff
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
I got these in today, Plus the Luka Prizm 2018 RC PSA 10 and a 9.
sorry to call this out, gobraves. but this kinda makes me mad. so much for those grading standards. esp on a zion which, imo, they seem to grade even harsher!
I got these in today, Plus the Luka Prizm 2018 RC PSA 10 and a 9.
sorry to call this out, gobraves. but this kinda makes me mad. so much for those grading standards. esp on a zion which, imo, they seem to grade even harsher!
Some recent movement:
Economy order checked in 11/16 popped last week
Bulk Modern check in 9/15 has been in QA2 for about a week
and the newest...a 1980s Quarterly special checked in 8/22 moved to Assembly TODAY!
I did okay on the 11/16 Economy, but I got a lot of 9s that easily could have been 10s. They also hit me with a N5 Altered Stock on a 69 Mantle that I had since I was a kid.
Nice to see some stuff moving, I'll update when the Modern and 1980s pop.
I got these in today, Plus the Luka Prizm 2018 RC PSA 10 and a 9.
sorry to call this out, gobraves. but this kinda makes me mad. so much for those grading standards. esp on a zion which, imo, they seem to grade even harsher!
esp? Sorry can you explain that to me.
it’s funny. even zion is looking at it to make sure the rc logo badge is properly stamped.
I got these in today, Plus the Luka Prizm 2018 RC PSA 10 and a 9.
sorry to call this out, gobraves. but this kinda makes me mad. so much for those grading standards. esp on a zion which, imo, they seem to grade even harsher!
esp? Sorry can you explain that to me.
it’s funny. even zion is looking at it to make sure the rc logo badge is properly stamped.
vs.
rookie badge is mis-stamped:
I don't see it, I pulled up other 10's and it looks the same.
i posted an example. there are plenty of examples w mistamped logos pre-4900000 certs. thats kinda my point. they let them fly outta the gate prior to cracking down on standards. im not dogging your card. im shaking my head at the lack of consistency after thrashing everyone else. trust me, im happy for you!
@gobraves39401 said:
Here are some more I got from the same Sub I got back!!
killed it, congrats! seriously. those are some tough versions. anything chronicles, hypers, velocities & ‘18 optic is not easy.
Thanks Blurry, Appreciate it. I still have a smile on my face when I think about them. Also not shown was the Ja Morant silver and a Base Prizm Both PSA 10'S!!
Next I'd like to post some pictures of what were some of the best cards in the set
My expected grade are in parenthesis.
1 1 49824824 MINT 9 1985 Fleer 335 Dale Murphy Card (10)
2 1 49824825 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 240 Nolan Ryan Card (10)
3 1 49824826 MINT 9 1981 Topps 254 Ozzie Smith Card (10)
4 1 49824827 NEAR MINT 7 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars T.Raines/R.Ramos/B.Pate Card (8)
5 1 49824828 EXCELLENT 5 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars T.Raines/R.Ramos/B.Pate Card (7)
6 1 49824829 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card (10)
7 1 49824830 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 170 Bo Jackson Future Stars Card (10)
8 1 49824831 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1987 Topps 200 Pete Rose Card (10)
9 1 49824832 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Donruss 61 Pete Rose Card (10)
10 1 49824833 MINT 9 1984 Donruss 68 Darryl Strawberry Card (9)
11 1 49824834 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Donruss 66 Dale Murphy Card (10)
12 1 49824835 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Donruss 302 Carlton Fisk Card (10)
13 1 49824836 MINT 9 1984 Donruss 355 Joe Morgan Card (10)
14 1 49824837 MINT 9 2013 Topps Chrome 78 Nolan Arenado Refractor Card (10)
15 1 49824838 MINT 9 2013 Bowman 136 Derek Jeter Gold Card (10)
16 1 49824839 EXCELLENT 5 1985 Topps 600 Pete Rose Card (10)
17 1 49824840 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1977 Topps 144 Bruce Sutter Card (8)
18 1 49824841 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1972 Topps 411 Bob Montgomery Card (8)
19 1 49824842 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps Traded 24T Will Clark Card (10)
20 1 49824843 MINT 9 1976 Topps 64 Jerry Koosman Card (10)
21 1 49824844 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 294 Ed Kirkpatrick Card (10)
22 1 49824845 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 70 Father & Son R.Smalley/R.Smalley Jr. Card (10)
23 1 49824846 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 68 Father & Son J.Coleman/J.Coleman Jr. Card (10)
24 1 49824847 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 284 Steve Ontiveros Card (10)
25 1 49824848 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 381 Denny Doyle Card (10)
26 1 49824849 MINT 9 1976 Topps 431 Dick Ruthven Card (10)
27 1 49824850 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 319 Larry Gura Card (10)
28 1 49824851 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 142 Dick Drago Card (10)
29 1 49824852 MINT 9 1976 Topps 275 Rick Manning Card (10)
30 1 49824853 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 292 Leon Roberts Card (10)
31 1 49824854 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 386 Ed Goodson Card (10)
32 1 49824855 MINT 9 1976 Topps 338 Bob Bailey Card (10)
33 1 49824856 MINT 9 1976 Topps 336 Vic Albury Card (10)
34 1 49824857 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 391 Jerry Hairston Card (10)
35 1 49824858 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 293 Bill Castro Card (10)
36 1 49824859 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 394 Fran Healy Card (10)
37 1 49824860 MINT 9 1976 Topps 25 Mike Torrez Card (10)
38 1 49824861 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 326 Dick Pole Card (10)
39 1 49824862 MINT 9 1976 Topps 412 Toby Harrah Card (10)
40 1 49824863 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 406 Ed Herrmann Card (10)
41 1 49824864 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1976 Topps 305 Andy Messersmith Card (10)
42 1 49824865 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 329 Joe Ferguson Card (10)
43 1 49824866 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 401 Ken Brett Card (10)
44 1 49824867 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 398 Dave Tomlin Card (10)
45 1 49824868 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 369 Frank White Card (10)
46 1 49824869 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 370 Ron Cey Card (10)
47 1 49824870 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 599 Rookie Pitchers Card (10)
48 1 49824871 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 380 Bobby Bonds Card (10)
49 1 49824872 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 300 Johnny Bench Card (9)
50 1 49824873 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 343 Pie Traynor All Time All-Star Card (10)
51 1 49824874 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 250 Fergie Jenkins Card (10)
52 1 49824875 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 441 Gary Carter All-Star Rookie Card (8)
53 1 49824876 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 400 Rod Carew Card (8)
54 1 49824877 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 100 Jim Hunter Card (10)
55 1 49824878 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 316 Robin Yount Card (9)
56 1 49824879 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 240 Pete Rose Card (8)
57 1 49824880 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 270 Willie Stargell Card 9)
58 1 49824881 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 420 Joe Morgan Card (10)
59 1 49824882 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 340 Jim Rice Card (10)
60 1 49824883 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 520 Willie McCovey Card (9)
61 1 49824884 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 325 Tony Perez Card (10)
62 1 49824885 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 450 Jim Palmer Card (9)
63 1 49824886 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 10 Lou Brock Card (9)
64 1 49824887 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 405 Rollie Fingers Card (10)
65 1 49824888 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 242 Dan Meyer Card (10)
66 1 49824889 GEM MINT 10 1976 Topps 274 Tommy Harper Card (10)
67 1 49824890 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 209 Alan Ashby Card (10)
68 1 49824891 GEM MINT 10 1976 Topps 371 Ellie Hendricks Card (10)
69 1 49824892 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 424 Phil Roof Card (10)
70 1 49824893 MINT 9 1976 Topps 282 Dan Osborn Card (10)
71 1 49824894 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 273 Joe Niekro Card (9)
72 1 49824895 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 286 Jim Wohlford Card (10)
73 1 49824896 MINT 9 1976 Topps 344 Honus Wagner All Time All-Star Card (10)
74 1 49824897 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 349 Walter Johnson All Time All-Star Card (10)
75 1 49824898 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 566 Ken McMullen Card (10)
76 1 49824899 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 547 Roric Harrison Card (10)
77 1 49824900 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 568 Rob Andrews Card (10)
78 1 49824901 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 532 Milt May Card (10)
79 1 49824902 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 510 Amos Otis Card (10)
80 1 49824903 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 194 AL Home Run Leaders Jackson/Scott/Mayberry Card (10)
81 1 49824904 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 192 AL Batting Leaders R.Carew/F.Lynn/T.Munson Card (10)
82 1 49824905 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 197 NL Stolen Base Ldrs D.Lopes/J.Morgan/L.Brock Card (10)
83 1 49824906 MINT 9 1976 Topps 377 Mike Hegan Card (10)
84 1 49824907 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 311 Cookie Rojas Card (10)
85 1 49824908 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 297 Roger Metzger Card (10)
86 1 49824909 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 151 Bill Bonham Card (10)
87 1 49824910 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 567 George Stone Card (10)
88 1 49824911 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 418 Jose Morales Card (10)
89 1 49824912 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 413 Pete Varney Card (10)
90 1 49824913 MINT 9 1976 Topps 444 Gary Nolan Card (10)
91 1 49824914 MINT 9 1976 Topps 457 Ed Crosby Card (10)
92 1 49824915 MINT 9 1976 Topps 466 Bob Stinson Card (10)
93 1 49824916 MINT 9 1976 Topps 494 Craig Swan Card (10)
94 1 49824917 MINT 9 1976 Topps 516 Wayne Granger Card (10)
95 1 49824918 MINT 9 1976 Topps 492 Marty Pattin Card (10)
96 1 49824919 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 415 Vada Pinson Card (10)
97 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1976 Topps 509 Bill Hands Card (10)
98 1 49824921 MINT 9 1976 Topps 551 Jerry DaVanon Card (10)
99 1 49824922 MINT 9 1976 Topps 483 Mickey Stanley Card (10)
100 1 49824923 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 498 Glenn Borgmann Card (10)
101 1 49824924 MINT 9 1976 Topps 528 Dock Ellis Card (10)
102 1 49824925 MINT 9 1976 Topps 493 Derrel Thomas Card (10)
Looks like I too have succumbed to age, and no longer have the ability to accurately predict the grade of a card. I have went from the ability to predict a gem mint 10 70's card at about 10-15% accuracy over the last 15 years down to 1.9% accuracy now. I always mix in a dud or two, so I don't worry about that. In 25 years of collecting 70's cards I've never come across a nicer lot than what I sent in. I've built 1976 sets by combining upwards of 15 sets, opening rack packs/wax packs and cello's and this set alone was as nice or nicer than the combination of those 15 high end sets. If there were truly only 2 gem mint 10's in that lot, then it is beyond worthless for me to ever buy cards with the intent on submitting them, because I have zero idea what a gem mint 10 card is, hell I don't even know what a mint card is any more. NOT 1, NOT even 1 of the 1976 hall of fame players I sent came back a 9, when I felt the Morgan, Rice and Perez all had VERY good shots at gemming. 10 months of time having my money/cards tied up and I believe I would have to sell every single card just to recoup my thousand dollars worth of grading fees if I chose to. The good news is I'm now the owner of a $3K 1976 set with one of the top 23 ellie hendricks and tommy harper cards in the world, so I'm very proud of that (sarcasm being poured on thick)
Jeff
wow, I don't know whether to cry for you or spit out all kinds of harsh words...in either case, so sorry to see these results...what is maddening to all of us submitting cards to PSA is that we continue to hear crickets when it comes to grading standards changing and also in regards to the cracking/resubmitting situation...just crazy
@bobbybakeriv said:
That bench is a 9 IMHO. It is beautiful. Nicer than the 10 Harper to me.
top to bottom definitely should keep Bench out of a 10 holder...
That is the only issue I could find with the card as well. I don't think it would look out of place in a 9 holder.
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
I would guess if you sent bench it with a less quality submission or less well centered cards that could end up a 9 without seeing a closer picture of course
Order Type: CC vouchers
Card total: 2
Order delivered: 10-27
Order received per PSA: 11-20
Research & ID: 11-20
Grading: 4-8
Assembly: 5-13
QA1: 5-28
QA2: 5-28
Shipped: 6-2
Grades popped and something definitely isn't right:
1 51501234 EXCELLENT 5 1985-86 Merchante Campeonato Baloncesto Liga 173 M. Jordan Blue Back
2 51501235 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1987 Panini Supersport Spanish 4 Michael Jordan
The Merchante was originally glued into the Merch-Camp sticker album and was removed by the seller in Spain that I bought it from. (IIRC) It had noticeable paper loss in multiple areas on back and I had asked for it just to be slabbed AUTHENTIC rather than take the chance that it might grade a PSA 1 or Authentic Altered depending on the grader. Under any other circumstances I would be very happy with a PSA 5 but if I decide to sell this at some point in the future I'm almost definitely going to have some difficulty doing so because the back doesn't match the grade.
The Panini SS was originally a BGS 8.5 that I tried crossing in slab to a PSA 8 with no luck so I cracked it and subbed raw. It had subgrades of 9.5/9.5/9.5/7.5(surface) and looked great when I shipped it, I'm afraid to see what that sticker looks like now to warrant a PSA 4.
Once I get a good look at both cards I’ll have to see about shipping it back to get corrected.
kind of long & more geared towards modern subs but worth a watch. even for the primarily vintage subbers. certainly echos what weve been thinking & saying for the past couple of months. the change in percentage numbers is astonishing.
Yeah, I'm starting to think that the new label PSA 10's are going to be viewed like BGS black labels.
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
@blurryface said:
kind of long & more geared towards modern subs but worth a watch. even for the primarily vintage subbers. certainly echos what weve been thinking & saying for the past couple of months. the change in percentage numbers is astonishing.
eta: zero association. until today i have never heard of this powers guy or this bulk group subber.
The one thing I do not like about guys like this that set themselves up as experts is that his data goes back to 2018. My 19 year old son has spent more time in the hobby and was grading cards in 2016. I do not like ultra modern 9s either, but his logic only comes through an ultra modern card worldview. I think to really get a grasp of what the market does you have to factor in several more factors than how his Panini Revolution Lebrons grade. He does make several great points however and has good data. I do not think PSA's tightening will help anyone else's value at all though, especially those ugly CSG slabs. That is just wishful thinking because he is using them.
While I make fun of you conspiracy folks, PSA definitely looked at ultra modern cards and decided they were giving too many 10s and tightened things up. I don't think things have changed for older cards but it is certainly possible that could happen going forward. Folks either need to get used to PSA grading on ultra modern or quit sending in subs. Folks that sub 80s & 90s & 00s cards know that the % of PSA 10 expectations for ultra modern graders was totally out of whack with non-ultra modern issues. I am glad to see PSA finally using some common sense when grading ultra modern, they were way too generous giving 10s in the past to ultra modern.
In general, if PSA starts adding a Genamint label, those cards will be more valuable than the same grade without the label.
In the long run, this will make PSA 10s more valuable, even for modern, and keep the value of PSA 10s high. PSA doesn't want 10s to be like the BGS 9.5s, which were/are a joke and have been completely rubber stamped by BGS graders for modern for quite a long time.
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Yea, I read that BF. I feel bad for the 76 Topps guy. This is my 1st submission. I sent 99 cards and 5 packs. I went over all of them with a 30 power scope. It took me a week to select the 99 I sent in. I was hoping 9's and 10's. After reading the proceeding pages, I am now worried.
you dont want 99 problems.
I hear that. A guy that has been doing this for 35 years (I think he said that long) was off on the grades as much as he said, I really have to wonder what mine might be. LOL
I think it will actually end up closer to your original estimate. I wish I was joking but once they re-open and get a flood of new submissions at higher service levels, all the value service levels, Economy and Collectors Club subs are not going to get a sudden emphasis in a soundly run business.
So yes, I am thinking it will probably be closer to 2.7 years than 12 months based on a reasonable interpretation of the data we have been provided, the difference in profitability (if you can grade and bill for one scrap of cardboard for $8 or a different one for $150, that’s a no brainer) and my belief that PSA will be flooded with cards at every service level they open.
While all incoming orders have been inputted which is great progress, there is no stated goal of completing any percentage of it and I don’t see much of a dent in the largest and most backlogged areas - bulk, economy (which now also has every CC sub that used to be considered Regular) and/value.
As the tiers at $300, $150, $75 etc reopen? Those card can, will and need to get priority.
As referenced above?
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
i think the expansion plans of adding additional locations will play a factor though.
something fairly big is in play supposedly.
You thinking McDonald’s drive thru wait time, more like SGC’s new website is coming wait time or the album Chinese Democracy wait time?
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
Thanks. That’s kinda what I figured. I sent 2 subs in together that were both entered in Oct - one pre1981 and the other post1981. The pre1981 was logged in Nov and came back to me in March - I figured I was still 2-3 months out on the newer packs based on other pack sub feedback in this thread, but I was hoping your message might have been a sign of things moving faster than normal. Oh well.
Jim
That is really bad news. I have spent almost 3 weeks choosing and prepping another 300 cards. I was going to wait and see how I did on the first order before submitting. At this rate it will be four years. Now I am not sure what I will do. Maybe wait till the market crashes again.
im not sure we will ever see a new sgc website. 😉
I don’t think it goes the full 2.7 years. And if you’ve done the work? Send them in. Though maybe cull them down again and when you send them in, maybe do it in smaller, staggered batches.
The idea that wait times will improve at lower service levels seems unrealistic BUT I’m a total amateur. Don’t go by me. Either way, PSA is the best and I don’t see an alternative to getting in line.
They’ve certainly made a TON of improvements over the last 5 years. This is a major issue that I hope they’re able to add to the ‘crisis solved’ pile soon.
They’ve got an elephant to eat. Only way to do it is one bite at a time.
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
Don’t you mean...
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
I may finally see my small order hopefully soon lol.
Order Type: CC vouchers
Card total: 2
Order delivered: 10-27
Order received per PSA: 11-20
Research & ID: 11-20
Grading: 4-8
Assembly: 5-13
QA1: 5-28
QA2: 5-28
Shipped:
Eric
Erikthredd’s MJ Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/publishedset/395035
Erikthredd’s Nike Air Jordan Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/basketball/key-card-sets/nike-poster-cards-michael-jordan-1985-1992/alltimeset/408486
2 card, super express.
recvd: 5/24/21
logged: 5/25/21
popped: 5/28/21
1 1 62723036 Item Grade: NEAR MINT-MINT 8
Auto Grade: GEM MT 10 2021 Topps X Trevor Lawrence 21A Trevor Lawrence Autograph-Teal PSA/DNA Certified Card
2 1 62723037 Item Grade: MINT 9
Auto Grade: GEM MT 10 2021 Topps X Trevor Lawrence 11A Trevor Lawrence Autograph-Red PSA/DNA Certified Card
notes: not mine. subbed for a couple buddies. diehard clemson fans. buddy on line one has ripped 15 boxes and sold a single box to buddy on line two. red is /5 and graded higher. classic! weve all been there.
grades were correct. will say, the sub went smooth. of course it should at $300 a pop.
Not that this helps many in this thread, but thought I'd share that a ticket reholder - talk about an outlier sub - popped this week in case anyone dabbles in tickets.
Arrived - 4/26
Entered - 5/17
Shipped - 6/1 (back to the future!!!)
I have another fresh ticket grade sub in flight (arrived 3/18, entered 5/14), in case that helps any ticket graders out there.
Jim
I received my 15 free cc order back a few weeks ago. Overall disappointed with the grades, just about everything came back a grade or two below from what I was expecting. Only one 9 with the rest being 7's and 8's. I am not complaining as my last several orders were very Good. I typically send in 70's and 80's cards and have developed a pretty good eye for submitting over the last couple years. The majority of my cards usually come back 8's and 9's with a few 10's sprinkled in, so this order was definitely tighter than expected. I have a couple more value orders logged in, who knows when I will get those back but hope to have better luck with them. As for this order, here are some pics of the highlights, these are all super sharp, dead centered with good print. Thought these should have graded higher, but you guys can judge for yourself.
I am looking on my cell but man I am feeling your pain on those.
I think that PSA's new grading tech. (microscope, machine grading etc) has helped cause lower grades, along with new graders. The cards I received last week were at least one lower grade than ones dupes I have sent before. My question is...does anyone think the cards graded with the new ID #s 500 etc. will be preceived to be a higher quality or grade than past ones.? Those 7s above look at least as good as previous 8's or more.
at the very least. more so, i think in a year or two, existing 10s values will get dragged up in value significantly. however, i do not think the “new 10” being equivalent to a bgs black label 10 marketing ploy/effect is good for the overall hobby. thats definitely a “buy the flip” scenario.
one could counter with “grading scales have gotten tighter since exception” and would be correct. however i think that is natural. early 10s were given out and sort of needed. however the collecting community as a whole evolved into a “buy the card not the holder”. and psa has been in business for over 20 years. with something as subjective, opinion based & easily open to scrutiny, consistency needs to be key. hence the crackdown on crackouts. obviously new management understands this concept. however its basically a laughable situation when you want to be consistent on certain valued cards but show such overall inconsistency on the overwhelmingly majority of cards that are being returned now.
not much action today for me.
seems they are working on cc vouchers recvd by nov '20 right now.
You are dead on, my 6 card cc from mid November moved from Assembly to QA1 this morning and to QA2 this afternoon. Little worried for this one
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My CC voucher received 12/5 and logged 12/23 been in q2 for a week or so. Along with 2 economy orders also in q2 for a week. My sub that popped 5/21 still waiting to ship ( fyi)
@blurryface said:
seems they are working on cc vouchers recvd by nov '20 right now.
Spot on.
CC received 11-17, logged 11-24 and in QA2 over a week.
I'm with Jason's thinking on this one...... worried. Where did the excitement go???????
I got these in today, Plus the Luka Prizm 2018 RC PSA 10 and a 9.
Super Express CTD jumped 7 days and value vintage jumped 2 days. No other movement on the CTD today from yesterday. Quarterly specials has not moved since 5/17 and it is still the furthest behind with a CTD of 8/9/20. Nice sub by the way!
@OAKESY25 - I hope that lag in shipping doesn't mean something was damaged in assembly or as they were about to ship and it's just slow because it's slow.
@envoy982 it finally shipped today, all grades are the same, I think it is just a huge back log.
OK guys. Looks like they are knocking out the value modern right now. Had my second order pop. I was really disappointed on how harsh they were with my 76's as they were truly some of the nicest I've seen. A few members pointed out some printing flaws in some of the cards that I may have missed though.
This sub comprised of all of my best 75's a few 76's I decided to send later, and some odds and ends. I didn't think the 75's were as nice as the 76's and my expectations of this sub were much lower, although they were pretty strong cards. Most were comprised of maybe 4 sets that I had combined. I'm pleasantly surprised by the grades on the HOFers, as the Carolton was the only one that I thought was really high end. I think a couple of the MVP cards are undergraded, namely the Mickey Mantle/Hank Aaron as those were the one's that I thought were super high end. But overall no complaints about this sub. They have always been very hard on 75's so I see no difference with these grades as I have my past grades. I'm walking off the ledge, lol...
PS - I always mix one or two weird duds in my subs and I managed to avoid that for the most part here. A couple of random 6's and nothing lower on 75's isn't all too bad for me at least.
101 card modern value
arrived 7/23/2020
entered 9/18/2020
popped 6/2/2021
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 49683378 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1972 O-Pee-Chee 325 Mel Stottlemyre Card
2 1 49683379 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 370 Tom Seaver Card
3 1 49683380 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 616 Rookie Outfielders Card
4 1 49683381 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 Topps 464 World Series Game 4 Card
5 1 49683382 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 217 Lou Piniella Card
6 1 49683383 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 454 Doug Griffin Card
7 1 49683384 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 98 Rich Folkers Card
8 1 49683385 MINT 9 1975 Topps 327 Jerry Hairston Card
9 1 49683386 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 336 Rennie Stennett Card
10 1 49683387 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 19 Jerry Koosman Card
11 1 49683388 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 254 Mike Torrez Card
12 1 49683389 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 220 Don Sutton Card
13 1 49683390 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 214 Harry Parker Card
14 1 49683391 MINT 9 1975 Topps 213 Oscar Gamble Card
15 1 49683392 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 208 1970-MVP's Boog Powell/Johnny Bench Card
16 1 49683393 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 312 Strikeout Leaders Nolan Ryan/Steve Carlton Card
17 1 49683394 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 196 1958-MVP's Jackie Jensen/Ernie Banks Card
18 1 49683395 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 181 Fred Beene Card
19 1 49683396 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 128 Bill Lee Card
20 1 49683397 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 63 Steve Swisher Card
21 1 49683398 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 58 Chuck Taylor Card
22 1 49683399 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 206 1968-MVP's Denny McLain/Bob Gibson Card
23 1 49683400 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 328 Sonny Siebert Card
24 1 49683401 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 516 Don Hood Card
25 1 49683402 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 197 1959-MVP's Nellie Fox/Ernie Banks Card
26 1 49683403 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 240 Garry Maddox Card
27 1 49683404 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 68 Ron Blomberg Card
28 1 49683405 MINT 9 1975 Topps 72 Royals Team Jack McKeon, Mgr. Card
29 1 49683406 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 Topps 47 Tommy John Card
30 1 49683407 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 Topps 204 1966-MVP's Frank Robinson/Roberto Clemente Card
31 1 49683408 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 25 Lee May Card
32 1 49683409 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 529 Gary Thomasson Card
33 1 49683410 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 548 Charlie Sands Card
34 1 49683411 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 522 Gary Sutherland Card
35 1 49683412 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 195 1957-MVP's Mickey Mantle/Hank Aaron Card
36 1 49683413 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 193 1955-MVP's Yogi Berra/Roy Campanella Card
37 1 49683414 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 177 Vic Correll Card
38 1 49683415 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 303 Grant Jackson Card
39 1 49683416 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 Topps 20 Thurman Munson Card
40 1 49683417 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 622 Rookie Outfielders Card
41 1 49683418 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 623 Rookie Infielders Card
42 1 49683419 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 176 Burt Hooton Card
43 1 49683420 MINT 9 1975 Topps 107 Jim Barr Card
44 1 49683421 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 74 Mark Belanger Card
45 1 49683422 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 44 Pat Dobson Card
46 1 49683423 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 Topps 1 '74 Highlights Hank Aaron Card
47 1 49683424 MINT 9 1975 Topps 35 Ron Santo Card
48 1 49683425 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 228 George Brett Card
49 1 49683426 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 600 Rod Carew Card
50 1 49683427 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 335 Jim Palmer Card
51 1 49683428 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 70 Mike Schmidt Card
52 1 49683429 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 320 Pete Rose Card
53 1 49683430 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 203 1965-MVP's Zoilo Versalles/Willie Mays Card
54 1 49683431 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 620 Rookie Catchers-Outfielders Card
55 1 49683432 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 5 '74 Highlights Nolan Ryan Card
56 1 49683433 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 Topps 21 Rollie Fingers Card
57 1 49683434 MINT 9 1975 Topps 185 Steve Carlton Card
58 1 49683435 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 180 Joe Morgan Card
59 1 49683436 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 130 Phil Niekro Card
60 1 49683437 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 100 Willie Stargell Card
61 1 49683438 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 260 Johnny Bench Card
62 1 49683439 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 640 Harmon Killebrew Card
63 1 49683440 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 Topps 530 Gaylord Perry Card
64 1 49683441 NEAR MINT 7 1975 Topps 194 1956-MVP's Mickey Mantle/Don Newcombe Card
65 1 49683442 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 Topps 66 Willie Horton Card
66 1 49683443 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 355 Steve Carlton Card
67 1 49683444 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 500 Reggie Jackson Card
68 1 49683445 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 1 Hank Aaron Card
69 1 49683446 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1980 Topps 270 Mike Schmidt Card
70 1 49683447 MINT 9 1981 Topps 469 Jeff Leonard Card
71 1 49683448 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 284 Brian Kingman Card
72 1 49683449 MINT 9 1981 Topps 519 John Tamargo Card
73 1 49683450 NEAR MINT 7 1983 Donruss 598 Tony Gwynn Card
74 1 49683451 MINT 9 1984 Topps 310 Willie McGee Card
75 1 49683452 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Donruss 190 Dwight Gooden Card
76 1 49683453 MINT 9 1985 Donruss 295 Don Mattingly Card
77 1 49683454 MINT 9 1986 Donruss 39 Jose Canseco Card
78 1 49683455 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 46 Mark McGwire Card
79 1 49683456 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Donruss 361 Barry Bonds Card
80 1 49683457 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Donruss 66 Will Clark Card
81 1 49683458 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 35 Bo Jackson Card
82 1 49683459 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 36 Greg Maddux Card
83 1 49683460 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 492 Barry Larkin Card
84 1 49683461 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 492 Barry Larkin Card
85 1 49683462 GEM MINT 10 2013 Topps Update US259 Nolan Arenado Card
86 1 49683463 MINT 9 2012 Bowman Sterling Autograph Prospects FL Francisco Lindor Card
87 1 49683464 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2015 Panini Elite Extra Edition 1 Yoan Moncada Prospects Signature Card
88 1 49683465 MINT 9 2012 Bowman Platinum Jumbo Relic Autograph Ajrgc Gerrit Cole Card
89 1 49683466 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2000 Upper Deck Ionix UD Authentics MR Manny Ramirez UD Authentics Card
90 1 49683467 MINT 9 2016 Bowman Prospects BCP148 Yoan Moncada Chrome-Gold Refractor Card
91 1 49683468 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Hoops 65 Michael Jordan Card
92 1 49683469 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Hoops 65 Michael Jordan Card
93 1 49683470 NEAR MINT 7 1990 Hoops 5 Michael Jordan All-Star Card
94 1 49683471 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1990 Hoops 5 Michael Jordan All-Star Card
95 1 49683472 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2003 Topps 224 Chris Bosh Collection Card
96 1 49683473 GEM MINT 10 2003 Topps 223 Carmelo Anthony Collection Card
97 1 49683474 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2003 Topps 225 Dwyane Wade Collection Card
98 1 49683475 MINT 9 1989 Pro Set 486 Deion Sanders Card
99 1 49683476 MINT 9 1989 Pro Set 498 Derrick Thomas Card
100 1 49683477 MINT 9 1989 Pro Set 490 Troy Aikman Card
101 1 49683478 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2007 Leaf Rookies & Stars Materials 58 Tom Brady Gold Card
Jeff
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
sorry to call this out, gobraves. but this kinda makes me mad. so much for those grading standards. esp on a zion which, imo, they seem to grade even harsher!
Jeff glad to see this sub come out better. Not bad on the 75 Brett.
esp? Sorry can you explain that to me.
Some recent movement:
Economy order checked in 11/16 popped last week
Bulk Modern check in 9/15 has been in QA2 for about a week
and the newest...a 1980s Quarterly special checked in 8/22 moved to Assembly TODAY!
I did okay on the 11/16 Economy, but I got a lot of 9s that easily could have been 10s. They also hit me with a N5 Altered Stock on a 69 Mantle that I had since I was a kid.
Nice to see some stuff moving, I'll update when the Modern and 1980s pop.
Here are some more I got from the same Sub I got back!!
So I really thought this one would hit a year there but. it may not
received 7/1/2020 Assembly 6/2/2021 72 card 80s special
it’s funny. even zion is looking at it to make sure the rc logo badge is properly stamped.
vs.
rookie badge is mis-stamped:
I don't see it, I pulled up other 10's and it looks the same.
i posted an example. there are plenty of examples w mistamped logos pre-4900000 certs. thats kinda my point. they let them fly outta the gate prior to cracking down on standards. im not dogging your card. im shaking my head at the lack of consistency after thrashing everyone else. trust me, im happy for you!
eta: see the outline vs my example above
killed it, congrats! seriously. those are some tough versions. anything chronicles, hypers, velocities & ‘18 optic is not easy.
Thanks Blurry, Appreciate it. I still have a smile on my face when I think about them. Also not shown was the Ja Morant silver and a Base Prizm Both PSA 10'S!!
wow, I don't know whether to cry for you or spit out all kinds of harsh words...in either case, so sorry to see these results...what is maddening to all of us submitting cards to PSA is that we continue to hear crickets when it comes to grading standards changing and also in regards to the cracking/resubmitting situation...just crazy
top to bottom definitely should keep Bench out of a 10 holder...
That is the only issue I could find with the card as well. I don't think it would look out of place in a 9 holder.
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
I would guess if you sent bench it with a less quality submission or less well centered cards that could end up a 9 without seeing a closer picture of course
Order Type: CC vouchers
Card total: 2
Order delivered: 10-27
Order received per PSA: 11-20
Research & ID: 11-20
Grading: 4-8
Assembly: 5-13
QA1: 5-28
QA2: 5-28
Shipped: 6-2
Grades popped and something definitely isn't right:
1 51501234 EXCELLENT 5 1985-86 Merchante Campeonato Baloncesto Liga 173 M. Jordan Blue Back
2 51501235 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1987 Panini Supersport Spanish 4 Michael Jordan
The Merchante was originally glued into the Merch-Camp sticker album and was removed by the seller in Spain that I bought it from. (IIRC) It had noticeable paper loss in multiple areas on back and I had asked for it just to be slabbed AUTHENTIC rather than take the chance that it might grade a PSA 1 or Authentic Altered depending on the grader. Under any other circumstances I would be very happy with a PSA 5 but if I decide to sell this at some point in the future I'm almost definitely going to have some difficulty doing so because the back doesn't match the grade.
The Panini SS was originally a BGS 8.5 that I tried crossing in slab to a PSA 8 with no luck so I cracked it and subbed raw. It had subgrades of 9.5/9.5/9.5/7.5(surface) and looked great when I shipped it, I'm afraid to see what that sticker looks like now to warrant a PSA 4.
Once I get a good look at both cards I’ll have to see about shipping it back to get corrected.
Eric
Erikthredd’s MJ Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/publishedset/395035
Erikthredd’s Nike Air Jordan Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/basketball/key-card-sets/nike-poster-cards-michael-jordan-1985-1992/alltimeset/408486
5 card express:
Arrived: 3/4/21
Entered: 4/14/21
Popped: 6/2/21
1 1 59164001 MINT 9 1994 Generation Extreme 95 Tony Hawk Card
2 1 59164002 MINT 9 1994 Generation Extreme 95 Tony Hawk Card
3 1 59164003 MINT 9 1994 Generation Extreme 95 Tony Hawk Card
4 1 59164004 GEM MINT 10 1994 Generation Extreme 95 Tony Hawk Card
5 1 59164005 MINT 9 1994 Generation Extreme 95 Tony Hawk Card
6 Regular Grading CC Renewal, I will do a guess that grade when they are in hand
Rec'd - 11/09/20
Logged - 11/24/20
Assembly- 5/26/21
Grades Popped - 6/3/21
Shipped -
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Greg Maddux #1 Master SetGreg Maddux #2 Basic Set
kind of long & more geared towards modern subs but worth a watch. even for the primarily vintage subbers. certainly echos what weve been thinking & saying for the past couple of months. the change in percentage numbers is astonishing.
“men lie. women lie. numbers dont.”
eta: zero association. until today i have never heard of this powers guy or this bulk group subber.
How have they not made a public comment about this yet?! Worst PR decisions ever.
Yeah, I'm starting to think that the new label PSA 10's are going to be viewed like BGS black labels.
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
The one thing I do not like about guys like this that set themselves up as experts is that his data goes back to 2018. My 19 year old son has spent more time in the hobby and was grading cards in 2016. I do not like ultra modern 9s either, but his logic only comes through an ultra modern card worldview. I think to really get a grasp of what the market does you have to factor in several more factors than how his Panini Revolution Lebrons grade. He does make several great points however and has good data. I do not think PSA's tightening will help anyone else's value at all though, especially those ugly CSG slabs. That is just wishful thinking because he is using them.
While I make fun of you conspiracy folks, PSA definitely looked at ultra modern cards and decided they were giving too many 10s and tightened things up. I don't think things have changed for older cards but it is certainly possible that could happen going forward. Folks either need to get used to PSA grading on ultra modern or quit sending in subs. Folks that sub 80s & 90s & 00s cards know that the % of PSA 10 expectations for ultra modern graders was totally out of whack with non-ultra modern issues. I am glad to see PSA finally using some common sense when grading ultra modern, they were way too generous giving 10s in the past to ultra modern.
In general, if PSA starts adding a Genamint label, those cards will be more valuable than the same grade without the label.
In the long run, this will make PSA 10s more valuable, even for modern, and keep the value of PSA 10s high. PSA doesn't want 10s to be like the BGS 9.5s, which were/are a joke and have been completely rubber stamped by BGS graders for modern for quite a long time.
Robb