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2015 High Relief Gold Coin/Silver Medal (UH8 & UH9)
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The Mint has placed placeholder pages for the high relief coins.
2015 High Relief 24K Gold Coin (UH8) Release date December 2015.
2015 High Relief Silver Medal (UH9) Release date December 2015.
2015 High Relief 24K Gold Coin (UH8) Release date December 2015.
2015 High Relief Silver Medal (UH9) Release date December 2015.
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<< <i>They don't even have designs to show us yet. I don't suppose it will be another version of the St. Gaudens "striding liberty." If it is, those who have the 2009 version might see a drop in the value of their holdings. >>
From a late January Coin Update Blog:
CCAC Recommendations
I still don't think designs should be judged from line art. Make 3D models of 'em.
Edit to change link to a newer article.
Feed Me!!!
He who knows he has enough is rich.
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Looks like Kelly Ripa.
Hoard the keys.
I do make occasional exceptions (Jefferson's Liberty, the 2009 UHR, a couple others) not sure whether I will get one of these in either metal, will need to see the better rendition of the design
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on the medals, there will be fewer inscriptions, as medals are not required by law to have anything - EPU, IGWT, Liberty.
the design will be the same though.
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<< <i>I just do not like design by committee.... I prefer an artist be selected, told to design a coin depicting America, Freedom and Justice....and let her/him produce it... Committees always produce mediocrity. Cheers, RickO >>
Couldn't agree more. Anytime a committee is controlling any kind of artistic endeavor, be it coins, sculpture, literature, etc…, the result is almost always mass market junk.
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<< <i>I just do not like design by committee.... I prefer an artist be selected, told to design a coin depicting America, Freedom and Justice....and let her/him produce it... Committees always produce mediocrity. Cheers, RickO >>
Couldn't agree more. Anytime a committee is controlling any kind of artistic endeavor, be it coins, sculpture, literature, etc…, the result is almost always mass market junk. >>
If I got the gist of the CCAC meeting, the artists designed their liberty and the committee simply chose from the lot.
(Angelina Jolie)
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I don't like it - she seems to be somewhat morbid and has no life. St. Gaudens' design is definitely superior.
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<< <i>I just do not like design by committee.... I prefer an artist be selected, told to design a coin depicting America, Freedom and Justice....and let her/him produce it... Committees always produce mediocrity. Cheers, RickO >>
Couldn't agree more. Anytime a committee is controlling any kind of artistic endeavor, be it coins, sculpture, literature, etc…, the result is almost always mass market junk. >>
If I got the gist of the CCAC meeting, the artists designed their liberty and the committee simply chose from the lot.
(Angelina Jolie) >>
MsMorrisine and other senior members, please write to the committee and indicate the poor choice of selecting the liberty design. I like the reverse eagle. I would have written my displeasure if I knew who is who in this business. Please note that I am not trying to pass the buck, even though it may appear as such. Al
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<< <i>I just do not like design by committee.... I prefer an artist be selected, told to design a coin depicting America, Freedom and Justice....and let her/him produce it... Committees always produce mediocrity. Cheers, RickO >>
Couldn't agree more. Anytime a committee is controlling any kind of artistic endeavor, be it coins, sculpture, literature, etc…, the result is almost always mass market junk. >>
If I got the gist of the CCAC meeting, the artists designed their liberty and the committee simply chose from the lot.
(Angelina Jolie) >>
MsMorrisine and other senior members, please write to the committee and indicate the poor choice of selecting the liberty design. I like the reverse eagle. I would have written my displeasure if I knew who is who in this business. Please note that I am not trying to pass the buck, even though it may appear as such. Al >>
You could write a letter a day. All you will do is waste time and postage. It will only fall on deaf ears
1) The Mint is using in house design for this.
2) The CCAC has been given a set of designs to choose and they chose.
3) Someone quipped about "hearing from people" about something, but I don't recall what. They do listen.
4) They don't know "senior" or whatever of us. Everyone can write. (faxing them is easier for me, though I could email.)
5) This is perhaps most important: it's in the hands of the mint now. The people to contact are them. For me, it's never too late to wave them off.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
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BTW, the CCAC is looking for a new member:
CCAC Applications Sought to Represent Interests of Public
There's also an interesting link on that page back to 2007 on who actually designs our coins:
Who’s Responsible for U.S. Coinage Design?
<< <i>Maybe if she had more flowing hair. The short hair does not do it for me. The attempt to make her a modern liberty is not succeeding. >>
Maybe a smile would help.
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Anyway, that's my 2 cents. It will be interesting to see how she looks in high relief...
Edit: and the eagle is stupendous!
mbogoman
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<< <i>Yep. I'm not buying until I see what the final product looks like. I still don't see how they could choose a high-relief design from a 2-D image.
BTW, the CCAC is looking for a new member:
CCAC Applications Sought to Represent Interests of Public
There's also an interesting link on that page back to 2007 on who actually designs our coins:
Who’s Responsible for U.S. Coinage Design? >>
I took your advice and sent the following email to: info@ccac.gov
Dear Sir or Madam,
I am on several coin discussion boards (Collectors Universe, Coin Talk, and others), and most of us think that the Obverse design of the 2015 High Relief Gold and Silver coins as proposed is very unattractive: http://news.coinupdate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/O-11-C-464x600.jpg
The Reverse design of the coin (Eagle) could not be any better! http://news.coinupdate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/R-01-C-464x600.jpg
Many collectors have indicated that they would not purchase the coins if the Obverse design is not changed. Please consider another (Greek/Roman) design like President Theodore Roosevelt had expressed.
Sincerely,
Al
Just my two cents.
~Bill
<< <i>Call me the odd man out, but I find her quite attractive. >>
and I do see a striking resemblance to Michelle Pfeiffer.
My Adolph A. Weinman signature
<< <i>Serious question. WHat law authorized these? >>
It has become clear that laws do not matter to those in this government.
They are listed in the numis media about these issue
The UHR gold is under the same that allowed the 2009 UHR where the current law allows the Secretary to make changes to the gold eagle bullion
The medal comes under their broad numismatic authority
<< <i>Serious question. WHat law authorized these? >>
Appears to be a seek approval situation -
"The Mint would have to seek approval from the secretary of the U.S. Treasury to strike the gold coin and silver medal, Stafford noted."
High-relief eyed for 2015 Posted on July 24, 2014 by Debbie Bradley
<< <i>It has become clear that laws do not matter to those in this government. >>
Lay off the politics. This is a coin board, period. End of story. EOM.
mbogoman
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<< <i>Serious question. WHat law authorized these? >>
Appears to be a seek approval situation -
"The Mint would have to seek approval from the secretary of the U.S. Treasury to strike the gold coin and silver medal, Stafford noted."
High-relief eyed for 2015 Posted on July 24, 2014 by Debbie Bradley >>
Great! Thank you!
<< <i>Serious question. WHat law authorized these? >>
I actually have these pages bookmarked.
As for the Silver Medal:
U.S. Code § 5111 - Minting and issuing coins, medals, and numismatic items
Relevant text:
<< <i>(a)The Secretary of the Treasury—
(1)shall mint and issue coins described in section 5112 of this title in amounts the Secretary decides are necessary to meet the needs of the United States;
(2)may prepare national medal dies and strike national and other medals if it does not interfere with regular minting operations but may not prepare private medal dies;
(3)may prepare and distribute numismatic items; and
(4)may mint coins for a foreign country if the minting does not interfere with regular minting operations, and shall prescribe a charge for minting the foreign coins equal to the cost of the minting (including labor, materials, and the use of machinery). >>
I assume (a)(2) covers the medal.
U.S. Code § 5112 - Denominations, specifications, and design of coins
Relevant text:
<< <i>(C)The Secretary may continue to mint and issue coins in accordance with the specifications contained in paragraphs (7), (8), (9), and (10) of subsection (a) and paragraph (1)(A) of this subsection at the same time the Secretary in minting and issuing other bullion and proof gold coins under this subsection in accordance with such program procedures and coin specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions as the Secretary, in the Secretary’s discretion, may prescribe from time to time. >>
Paragraphs 7, 8, 9 and 10 specify the AGE sizes and weights, and 1A specifies the design, and the wording indicates the Secretary of the Treasury has the ability to authorize a gold coin without congress' approval.
So all the Mint has to do is get the Secretary to authorize it, and off they go!
Both pages are interesting reads. Explains Commemorative numbers of clad, silver and gold, the Sacabuc and its redesigns, the quarter (50 state and ATB) program and others.
Note, I am not a lawyer, and don't even play one anywhere.
not broad numismatic authority under it in (3), but broad medal making authority in (2)
(2)may prepare national medal dies and strike national and other medals if it does not interfere with regular minting operations but may not prepare private medal dies;
(3)may prepare and distribute numismatic items; and
31 usc 5112 (i) (4) (C)
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(C)The Secretary may continue to mint and issue coins in accordance with the specifications contained in paragraphs (7), (8), (9), and (10) of subsection (a) and paragraph (1)(A) of this subsection at the same time the Secretary in minting and issuing other bullion and proof gold coins under this subsection in accordance with such program procedures and coin specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions as the Secretary, in the Secretary’s discretion, may prescribe from time to time.
The Mint seems to be doing a 2008 repeat - bombarding us with so many offerings and so many varieties that before it's over, the buying will drop off.
And they will discontinue a bunch of them.
And some of them will be "scarce".
In the process, another bunch of Modern collectors will go away.
That's just the way it is. Hey! It's the Mint! Don't ever forget it.
I knew it would happen.
UHR 2015
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BINGO!!! We know who the model is now.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
<< <i>Not sure if it was always there, but pics of coin posted and release date is now in July. I saw somewhere it would be July 23rd
UHR 2015 >>
Well, not only that, but the Silver Medal (UH9) has been removed from the schedule, and placeholder page removed from the catalog.
JH
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<< <i>I like it and I'll pick one up.
JH >>
I like it too. Gonna be pricey though, at least $1500 I'd presume
CG