The official 2010 Topps Heritage thread: rip, sort, trade

Are the Maris and Mantle cards only found in Wal-Mart boxes? It seems as if I have asked this before, and I thought they were in Target boxes as well, but I have not found and of these despite the blasters, rac-pacs, and singles I have bought. Hmmm...

Well that explains why 5 of my blasters had zero M/M inserets. I hate buying gravity (which means picked through) packs. Thanks for clearing things up a second time for me.

No, Im still in the game, just waiting for some new stock to arrive

Snaked this off Beckett this morning:

2010 Topps Heritage Clubhouse Collection Relics #RM Russell Martin 1 1 0 $8.00
Item Total: $8.00
Shipping Total: $2.22
Tax Total: $0.00
Order Total: $10.22

no clue, but I know a silly Dodger fan that, for some reason, needs to fill out his set of marginal player's GU jerseys from this year's set and picked it up for him.

Walt,

Is it in Beckett Baseball or Beckett Sports Card Monthly? What month? Paper copy on newstands or e-version only right now?

Thanks!

<< <i>you can view it on the website for a price, this is the baseball monthly june/july edition. >>





Thanks for the info. WALT. Im going to buy one today. Dave.

Hey Walt, would you mind telling me what they list the blue XX/25 of the Robinson Flaxhback Auto for? Thanks...
John

John,

Cards with a serial number of 25 or less never book because of scarcity.

Kurt

<< <i>thanks to Walt and others for doing some trades.

thought i was gonna pull off a good deal, but seriously... help me out on this...

if im trading someone 1961 vintage cards Ex/Ex-Mint condtion(happy to provide scans) of stars, hall of famers and high numbers for 2010 common chromes and refractors... am i out of line in thinking that when they say chromes book for $6 that someone is trying to rip ME off?

in looking at 2 pages of Ebay auctions most chrome lots sell for $1.00 per $1.50 per card and refractor lots sell for maybe $2.00 per refractor....

oh well. >>



This all can get very confusing, some traders go by book value some go by ebay value. I always give the person Im trading with the option to choose what they want. I
think book value is easiest, but when only trading apples and apples and oranges and oranges. Chrome unlisted stars book for 6 dollars, this person is right there, but
they sell for maybe 2 or 3 dollars, which is less than 50% book. There are autos that sell for 75% book, so you have to be careful. I make it a general rule when Im trading
up, and I have traded up here MANY times, I always give more in terms of value. I think that is only fair.

In the defense however, you can't look at lots on ebay, break them down per card and then quote people those prices, first, any trade here is going to be for a lot of
cards which contain all cards you need. A lot on ebay would be impossible to find like that. Also remember you don't have to bid on it and you don't have to pay a shipping
fee. All those things are worth me paying or trading a bit more to get these cards. I have been a trader who will tend to help out a collector even if I am getting cards
that I don't need...I mean, if I have 20 chromes that you need but you only have 10 chromes that I need, then just send me 10 extras so I can send you all the cards
you need. In the end I'm going to have back stock of cards yes, but I don't want to be sitting on cards that other collectors here need for sets. Heck Im sending cards
anyways, why does it matter if Im sending 10 or 20 cards? You help a guy out one year and he is going to help you out the next.

While I have been going by book value for many of my trades, I actually have not been looking at the players I have been giving up, Pujols books for 12 bucks and the
common SP for 6, that can add up, but I think it all evens out in the end. I think the most anal traders that used to lurk here are gone. It is very hard to offend me with a
trade offer, I probably should watch how much I spend in postage every year, but what fun would this be without the trades?

...and I don't think there is anything wrong with asking a few members opinion on a trade if you think you are getting the short end of the stick, the true value of
this stuff can be tricky, especially if you looked at prices a month ago when this stuff first hit!

I can assure you that there isn't a better place to be trading heritage than right here! Have fun!

Walt

I think we all run into trades or sales that are not even, or best for us. The best thing to do is walk away if you don't your not going to be happy with it either way sale or trade.
I also have had very good luck with ShaneyD in a trade.

I have 5 Maris SP and 1 Ruth SP available.

I'd like to trade 1 for a Mantle that I've yet to be able to pull

Still need a Corey Hart, #454 to finnish up my first set. I thought I could get it done before the season opened, but don't think it will happen. Is there not any 454's on the board? Come on guys...

<< <i>to further my comment - now that I know the identity of ShawnyD's potential trading partner, I'll retract my statement about 'taking advantage' - I know he wouldn't do that. Having said that, I don't think the trade is equitable to ShawnyD. Also, I'll personally vouch for ShawnyD as a good trader - no need to worry about his end. >>




Wow! What ever happened to the term "private messages" ShawnyD?

I guess I will throw up a defense here as to my logic and reasoning....

Anyways, as "Brother" knows, I generally use Beckett as a guide to help me facilitate trades. Some people like me use Beckett (because it is easy) and some people use true value which we all know is what is being sold on Ebay. Going strictly by Beckett the trade offer I made makes sense. However, going by EBay prices, the trade offer does not. After Shawn's last PM to me, I looked up one of Shawn's card offerings that books in Beckett for $30 (EXMT conditon makes it book at $18) I expected to see several of these cards in this condition sell on Ebay at around $8 or $9 each. And guess what completed auctions of this card sold for in this condition? Several at approximately $18 each! I was surprised! And if you look up completed Chrome cards that book at $6, guess what they are selling for? $6??????? Not even close -- I was amazed! So, then, why do Chromes book at $6 when you can not get close to this? Why doesn't Beckett lower Chromes to $2 or $3 each? On the other hand, doing more research, Beckett has 2001 Topps Heritage Chrome commons booking at $12 each. I would like to buy as many of these as I can for that price!!! Why can't Beckett be more of a true value? This is the part of the hobby I do not understand.

After a few trades with "Brother" using the true value approach and after seeing how this trade offer went with ShawnD, I have decided to change the way I trade and start using true value when doing trades for vintage. It is one thing if you are trading Chromes for Chromes or vintage for vintage to use Beckett value, but trading Chromes for vintage is like apples and oranges.

ShawnD, I would like to publically apologize for my trade offer -- I was not trying to take advantage of you -- I was just going by Beckett and using it as a guide. I am glad that because of your trade offer, I now realize the inequities that occur when using Beckett. If you still need any more chromes, SPs, or whatever, PM me and I am sure we can work something out using the values of completed auctions on EBay rather than using Beckett.

Thanks!

MY WANT LIST!!

Craig in Texas

Can anybody use a Vlad Dice Back Insert? Will sell if your interested. Last remaining cards I need:

2010 TOPPS HERTIAGE: 15(Sizemore SSP), 77(Happ SSP), and 366(Sabathia SSP)
2010 TOPPS HERITAGE DICE BACK CARDS: Teixeira and Chipper Jones
2010 TOPPS HERITAGE MANTLE CHASE '61: 61MM1-61MM15
2010 TOPPS HERITAGE MARIS CHASE '61: 61RM2, 61RM3, 61RM5-61RM8, and 61RM10-61RM14

2010 TOPPS HERITAGE PANELS: Berkman, Willingham, LaPorta, Bochy, LaRussa, Dempster, Quentin, AL Avg. Leaders, Reimold, Orioles, Jackson, Aybar, Hornsby, W. Rodriguez, Stoner, Pettitte, Guillen, Perkins, Beckham, Francisco, Cain, Murphy, Trembley, Ankiel, Washburn, Hafner, D. Hernandez, Cuddyer, Thome, Beltre, NL K Leaders, J. Hairson, Rolen, Schumaker, Shields, Headley, Roberts, Holland, Lopez, Rollins, Hamels, Huff, Santos, Kershaw, Butler, Robinson, NL HR Leaders, Soriano, Ianneta, Fowler, Sabathia, Hudson, Andino, Billingsley, Millwood, Hamilton(2), Oswalt, H. Rodriguez, Pence, Jurrjens, and Pujols
(I am looking for one card of each player, so if only one player on this list is on the panel, I need the entire panel)

I thought I had my chrome set done, but I dont. I need cards 60 and 9.

Thanks

Jayson Werth (card #78)...............nice belt !!??