1984 Donruss Baseball - the unofficial but legal thread

rvc · January 30, 2006 7:43AM

i'd be in good company then arny- i hope i get it
who's going after the jackson?

BugOnTheRug · January 30, 2006 8:37AM

I have a snipe set at $7,050.53

Robert,
bbcardbuyer is a seller's best friend and a bidder's nightmare. Of all the 84D buyers (although he tends to limit his buys to the more popular cards) over the last 3 years, he has the deepest pockets IMO..............

ArnyVee · January 31, 2006 12:54AM

bbcardbuyer shows up here and there. Never consistently bidding on things, but does seem to have those deep pockets that Bill mentioned.

alnavman · January 31, 2006 7:55AM

ALL I CAN SAY IS WOW!!!

Check out my latest submission:

1 31430677 1984 DONRUSS 30 RON DARLING #30 ON BACK 8
2 31430678 1984 DONRUSS 29 MIKE STENHOUSE #29 ON BACK 8
3 31430679 1984 DONRUSS 44 SID FERNANDEZ N/A 9
4 31430680 1984 DONRUSS 36 BRAD KOMMINSK N/A 10
5 31430681 1984 DONRUSS 37 TIM TEUFEL N/A 9
6 31430682 1984 DONRUSS 56 BUDDY BELL N/A 8
7 31430683 1984 DONRUSS 60 NOLAN RYAN N/A 9
8 31430684 1984 DONRUSS 63 STEVE GARVEY N/A 9
9 31430685 1984 DONRUSS 68 DARRYL STRAWBERRY N/A 10
10 31430686 1984 DONRUSS 106 CAL RIPKEN JR. N/A 10
10 31430687 1984 DONRUSS 106 CAL RIPKEN JR. N/A 9
11 31430688 1984 DONRUSS 248 DON MATTINGLY N/A 9
12 31430689 1984 DONRUSS 57 REGGIE JACKSON N/A 10
13 31430690 1984 DONRUSS 59 OZZIE SMITH N/A 9
14 31430691 1984 DONRUSS 61 PETE ROSE N/A 9
15 31430692 1984 DONRUSS 34 KEVIN McREYNOLDS N/A 10
16 31430693 1984 DONRUSS 32 TONY FERNANDEZ N/A 9
17 31430694 1984 DONRUSS 28 TOM DUNBAR N/A 9
18 31430695 1984 DONRUSS 279 JEFF REARDON N/A 9
19 31430696 1984 DONRUSS 288 DAVE PARKER N/A 9
20 31430697 1984 DONRUSS 289 LEE SMITH N/A 9
21 31430698 1984 DONRUSS 293 ALAN TRAMMELL N/A 10
22 31430699 1984 DONRUSS 311 RYNE SANDBERG N/A 9
23 31430700 1984 DONRUSS 324 TONY GWYNN N/A 9
24 31430701 1984 DONRUSS 539 ALAN ASHBY N/A 9
25 31430702 1984 DONRUSS 544 DANNY DARWIN N/A 9
26 31430703 1984 DONRUSS 545 KIKO GARCIA N/A 9
27 31430704 1984 DONRUSS 546 VANCE LAW N/A 10
28 31430705 1984 DONRUSS 547 TUG McGRAW N/A 9
29 31430706 1984 DONRUSS 648 DUKE SNIDER PUZZLE CARD 10
30 31430707 1975 TOPPS 2 NBA FIELD GOAL PCT. LEADERS 7
31 31430708 1975 TOPPS 227 MACK CALVIN N/A 9
32 31430709 1975 TOPPS 25 LOU HUDSON N/A 8
33 31430710 1975 TOPPS 5 NBA ASSISTS LEADERS PORTER/BING/ARCHIBALD 7
34 31430711 1975 TOPPS 325 NEW YORK NETS CHECKLIST 9
35 31430712 1975 TOPPS 127 NEW ORLEANS JAZZ TEAM LEADERS 8
35 31430713 1975 TOPPS 127 NEW ORLEANS JAZZ TEAM LEADERS 8
36 31430714 1978 TOPPS 66 LONNIE SHELTON N/A 10
37 31430715 1978 TOPPS 93 RICKY SOBERS N/A 8
38 31430716 1978 TOPPS 33 PHIL SMITH N/A 9
39 31430717 1978 TOPPS 75 BERNARD KING N/A 9
40 31430718 1978 TOPPS 84 DWIGHT JONES N/A 9OC
41 31430719 1978 TOPPS 40 DAVE COWENS N/A 8
42 31430720 1978 TOPPS 43 CHARLIE SCOTT N/A 8
43 31430721 1978 TOPPS 10 WALTER DAVIS N/A 8
44 31430722 1972 TOPPS 153 STEVE KUBERSKI N/A 7
45 31430723 1972 TOPPS 187 BYRON BECK N/A 7
46 31430724 1972 TOPPS 188 LARRY MILLER N/A 6
47 31430725 1972 TOPPS 199 RICH JONES N/A 6
48 31430726 1972 TOPPS 201 GENE MOORE N/A 7
49 31430727 1972 TOPPS 240 TOM WASHINGTON N/A 7
50 31430728 1972 TOPPS 20 SIDNEY WICKS N/A 6

LWMM · January 31, 2006 8:17AM

Nice on the Vance Law--1 of 2 now, I suppose?

alnavman · January 31, 2006 9:21AM

Yep, it's the second one graded 10. It will soon join my registry set...I'll post a scan when it arrives.

BugOnTheRug · January 31, 2006 2:09PM

<< <i>24 31430701 1984 DONRUSS 539 ALAN ASHBY N/A 9
25 31430702 1984 DONRUSS 544 DANNY DARWIN N/A 9
26 31430703 1984 DONRUSS 545 KIKO GARCIA N/A 9
27 31430704 1984 DONRUSS 546 VANCE LAW N/A 10
28 31430705 1984 DONRUSS 547 TUG McGRAW N/A 9 >>

Al,
That's a very impressive submission. You've got to be please with Straw, Ripken, etc., but I feel your biggest victory is in the 5 cards above. The mid 500 range (and you've hit the sweet spot) is one of the toughest short runs to find quality raw in.

Its amazing to me what you've done in a short time on some of the tougher commons. It goes without saying that one man's tough cards might be another's 'walk in the park'; however, the pop's seldom lie - if it's a low pop at this point, there's a good reason why..........

Bill

ArnyVee · January 31, 2006 9:35PM

Great job Al!

Those 5 cards are toughies for sure! Are any of them doubles for you? I've already got the Tug McGraw (Thanks to Bill's generosity!) and Kiko Garcia. But, the other three are definitely ones I could use!

Maybe a little one of those multiple card trades for you?

daneyb · February 2, 2006 2:40AM

I just opened 3 boxes of 84 donruss and i was only intrested in the Mattinglys (got one real nice) I have only sent in good cards to get graded, never really thought about sending in ok cards that might grade high. I have a bunch of common not so common players that may grade high. I am not really sure if they would grade 9/10 I have a stack of 50 or 60 that look dead on to the 2 pics I have attached. Should I send some in. The Darling is one of them but it is without a # should I not send that one in??

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back

rvc · February 2, 2006 2:52AM

schmidt 9, gwynn 10
can you post darling pic?

theplasticman · February 2, 2006 2:57AM

Anybody (gulp) got a spare 10 on #47 Eddie Murray?

I'd also be interested in 9/10 on both #22 Eddie Murray varieties

Use the contact form at my website to drop me a line if you got some you're interested in moving:
http://www.clark22murray33.com/wp

BugOnTheRug · February 2, 2006 6:08AM

daneyb,

Please turn on your PM's. (click 'on' next to 'allow private messages' in your profile)

Please email me at: bdavidson@prodigy.net
to discuss what cards I may need from your 3 boxes.

thanks,Bill

alnavman · February 2, 2006 6:33AM

Bill's been my mentor on this set and would defer to his knowledge but if the Darling card is as good as the two you scanned, I'd send it in and get it graded....I would definitely be interested if it comes back high grade.......like RVC noted, can you post a scan.....there are a lot of folks out there that can give you some advice...It's got to be better looking then the one I have

daneyb · February 2, 2006 8:19AM

My PM is now turned on. I will try to get the scans of the 2 darlings up tonight, and like I said earlier they dont have a number on them.

ArnyVee · February 2, 2006 1:48PM

Won the PSA 9 Bumbry tonight!

BugOnTheRug · February 2, 2006 7:31PM

sorry Arny,
I wasn't about to let bumbry go without being noticed so I set a small snipe.........I'm glad you got it however!

ArnyVee · February 2, 2006 10:03PM

I had my own small snipe on it too.

Guys, if there are any cards that you need to complete your sets, why don't we try and make a pact to help each other out and not bid on each other's cards. For instance, if a Joel Youngblood, Alan Ashby or Mike Fitzgerald in PSA 9 or better comes available, why not let Bill get at least one of them to get closer to completing his set. Then, we can work to help each other and not cost each other money. We can do something like ...if Bill gets Youngblood, then I get Ashby and RVC gets a 10 Fitzgerald. You know, something like that. Thoughts?

mccardguy1 · February 2, 2006 10:36PM

Hey Guys,

I am not in your league in terms of buying these cards but I know If I saw one of you bidding on something there would be no way I would bid and driveup the price. The problem is that I dont know ebay id's for everyone. Maybe we should post these id's so we dont step on toes.......Post them only if you are comfortable doing so of course. I am mchenrycards!!

daneyb · February 3, 2006 3:02AM

Ok well the 2 darlings look good on the front but the backs are off. Take alook at these scans and see if you see any 9/10's in the group.

front

back

daneyb · February 3, 2006 3:13AM

What about these

front

back

BugOnTheRug · February 3, 2006 5:53AM

daneyb,

its hard to tell from the scans if there's any minute blemishes, touched corners, etc. but based on these scans only, you're looking at solid 9's, if not 10's. You've got the centering down - all that remains is how well the corners, etc. are judged.
bill

rvc · February 3, 2006 12:10PM

dan i agree with bill

arny you are on to something.

BugOnTheRug · February 3, 2006 2:46PM

To reply to Arny's post, I think the best thing to do is either post a message on the boards here or pm those who might also be interested in a particular card.

With this Bumbry 9, if I knew Arny or someone else on these boards wanted it, I would have left it alone, but there were no bids with less than 10 minutes to go, so I small-sniped it.

Please note that I will put bids on cards I deem difficult and/or are priced extremely reasonable even if I already have them; the former to 'keep' within the registry set guys (these cards eventually filter back in), the latter for possible updating to what I already may have (and I've done that quite a bit).

Let's hear what the rest of you guys think...........

Bill

alnavman · February 4, 2006 6:08AM

haven't formed an opinion yet on what we should all do about cards that come up but can say without a doubt, I'm super happy that these have joined my set.

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/5477/15dt1.jpg

alnavman · February 4, 2006 6:08AM

Let's try this again....sorry everyone

alnavman · February 4, 2006 6:11AM

Thanks to Bill, Arny, RVC and everyone else who has mentored me on what cards to submit......If only I had more unopened....oh well, the thrill of the hunt has got me going now!!!

rvc · February 4, 2006 6:55AM

nice scans al! what are you going to do with all the leftovers? i have 2 unopened boxes waiting until i know what to do with the cards i dont submit.

frankhardy · February 4, 2006 7:47AM

Is this BGS 9.5 Mattingly going to hurt my PSA 10 on Ebay. Here are the links?

The BGS has been on Ebay less than one day and it has already surpassed my PSA.

My PSA 10 Mattingly

BGS 9.5 Mattingly

Any opinions?

BugOnTheRug · February 4, 2006 1:45PM

Al,
congrats on the cards and the nice scans..............I really like the Straw and Ripken.

Frank,
I don't know the effect of the BGS Mattingly on your card, but you gotta feel good about $850 for yours. In my view, a Mattingly identical to yours could very well be a 9 on a different day, and that 9 would sell for +/- $60 or so. I've never submitted to BGS but some of the 9.5's I've seen had less than what I'd call 9.5 centering - in fact, I witness one 9.5 with 10 centering that was worse then a BGS 9 Sandberg I recently purchased. Go figure...................

ArnyVee · February 4, 2006 1:49PM

<< <i>that's a very nice mattingly - $800-900 is my guess. >>

You called it Bill!

frankhardy · February 4, 2006 1:59PM

Yes, I am pleased with $850. The previous two on Ebay sold for $710 and $799 respectively. The high bidder has a feedback of 11, but it is 100%.

alnavman · February 5, 2006 1:13AM

alnavman · February 5, 2006 1:21AM

Well, what do the 84 Donruss folks think about the game today.....I know it's off topic but hey we deserve a break once in awhile......by the way this Cleveland Browns fan hopes the Seahawks do unmentionable things to our good friends the Stillers!!! Can you guess who I want to win???

ArnyVee · February 5, 2006 4:37AM

I want the Bus and Coach Cowher to get themselves a ring. I just hope that it's a competitive game, that's it.

BugOnTheRug · February 5, 2006 7:39AM

Being originally from western PA, I'm rooting for "one for the thumb!"

BugOnTheRug · February 5, 2006 2:31PM

They got the one for the thumb, but it wasn't the prettiest of victories. Seattle did a nice job and was certainly a worth opponent, but caught some unlucky breaks.

Special congrats to The Bus, Cowher, and the Rooney family (by far the best ownership group in football, if not most professional sports).

JMS318 · February 6, 2006 9:02AM

Yeah BOTR I was happy with the Super bowl outcome, but I also live only 4 hours away from Pittsburg.

Sorry not to change the subject, but look at this BGS 84 Carew. I'm ok with all the subs except the centering?
If I crossed this over to PSA do you think it’s a 9? Anyone opinion would be much appreciated.

Many Thanks,
Joe

ArnyVee · February 6, 2006 9:16AM

Looks like it could cross over to a 9.

JMS318 · February 6, 2006 9:22AM

ArnyVee Since I'm new to PSA how does one go about doing a crossover??? Can you have them keep it in the BGS holder if it does not meet a grade you specify?

Joe

Edit addition---- Is this a hard card to get a 9 or better?

BugOnTheRug · February 6, 2006 10:24AM

your best bet is to just bust it out of the BGS holder and submit raw................

Have you guys noticed the prices factory sets are bringing recently - $150-$200+ are you kidding me?@!?!?!?

It wasn't that long ago I was paying anywhere from $80-95 (some even included shipping at that price). I guess this is what you pay for the newly found 1984D 'visibility' in the marketplace. Oh well, I'll just have to be more patient I guess

tennesseebanker · February 6, 2006 11:54PM

BBC exchange just got in some wax boxes of 84 Donruss for $150
Thought you guys might want to know.

ArnyVee · February 7, 2006 2:06AM

Anyone gonna take a stab at some unopened material from BBCE?

daneyb · February 7, 2006 5:51AM

So who is BBCE?? What is the URL?

ArnyVee · February 7, 2006 6:22AM

Same company that both ldferg and I responded to you on about on the 1985 Topps Football thread.

BugOnTheRug · February 7, 2006 6:27AM

I'm thinking about buying a box or 2..............anybody else?

alnavman · February 7, 2006 7:04AM

Well, I took the plunge. Now I have to decide if I am going to open the packs or not......decisions, decisions

rvc · February 7, 2006 7:20AM

ok, you rip the box and then what to do with the non submittables?

alnavman · February 7, 2006 7:22AM

I usually put the extra's in the spokes of my kids bikes.....only kidding....as of right now I have a 500 count box full of OC, slight edge problem, surface problem, etc,etc cards........and some that are ok but you get the idea.....also today got my results from my latest submission. Here's the good, I'll post the bad in another message.

76 31464250 1973 TOPPS 187 LARRY JONES N/A 9
77 31464251 1984 DONRUSS 65 JACK CLARK N/A 9
78 31464252 1984 DONRUSS 70 KENT HRBEK N/A 9
79 31464253 1984 DONRUSS 85 RICK ADAMS N/A 9
80 31464254 1984 DONRUSS 164 FRANK PASTORE N/A 9
81 31464255 1984 DONRUSS 166 LEE MAZZILLI N/A 9
82 31464256 1984 DONRUSS 167 SCOT THOMPSON N/A 9
83 31464257 1984 DONRUSS 187 GREG MINTON N/A 9
84 31464258 1984 DONRUSS 198 STEVE LAKE N/A 9
85 31464259 1984 DONRUSS 237 MIKE CALDWELL N/A 9

alnavman · February 7, 2006 7:24AM

31464221 1973 TOPPS 117 KEITH ERICKSON N/A 8
48 31464222 1973 TOPPS 240 JULIUS ERVING N/A 8
49 31464223 1973 TOPPS 50 KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR N/A 8
50 31464224 1973 TOPPS 130 PETE MARAVICH N/A 8
51 31464225 1984 DONRUSS 1 ROBIN YOUNT DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 9
52 31464226 1984 DONRUSS 4 JOHN CASTINO DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
53 31464227 1984 DONRUSS 7 JACK CLARK DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
54 31464228 1984 DONRUSS 13 BRUCE SUTTER DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
55 31464229 1984 DONRUSS 14 BOB HORNER DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
56 31464230 1984 DONRUSS 15 LANCE PARRISH DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 7
57 31464231 1984 DONRUSS 16 MATT YOUNG DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
58 31464232 1984 DONRUSS 18 RON KITTLE DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
59 31464233 1984 DONRUSS 19 JIM CLANCY DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 5
60 31464234 1984 DONRUSS 20 BILL MADLOCK DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 9
61 31464235 1984 DONRUSS 21 LARRY PARRISH DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
62 31464236 1984 DONRUSS 22 EDDIE MURRAY DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
63 31464237 1984 DONRUSS 62 RON OESTER N/A 9
64 31464238 1984 DONRUSS 23 MIKE SCHMIDT DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
65 31464239 1984 DONRUSS 24 PEDRO GUERRERO DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
66 31464240 1984 DONRUSS 25 ANDRE THORNTON DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8

I just haven't gotten the hand of the DK's yet.....I'm happier with the basketball I got back.......guess I need to get back with Bill and get another lesson on spotting gradable cards.....A 5 on the Clancy!!! I obviously missed something that day.....oh well, the thrill of the hunt!!

rvc · February 7, 2006 7:29AM

i wonder if the clancy is a 1 of 1

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