This is the description of the card by the seller..................
<< <i>Up for auction is a beautiful investment quality card graded a GEM MINT 10 by Graded Rookies Authenticated (GRA). Graded Rookies Authenticated, featured by Beckett in the August 2001 issue of Baseball Card Monthly (e-Trends), is amongst the toughest graders in the industry. The card up for auction is virtually flawless in all respects. Please see the scan of the card back for the individual subgrades in the centering, corners, edges, and surface categories. Simply stated, this one will make an outstanding addition to any advanced sportscard collection. Winning bidder please see listing for shipping and handling costs and add to final auction price. THANKS! >>
The reality is simply this: GRA, along with probably 50 other so-called grading companies, is just a fly-by-nite operation. I'd be too embarrassed to sell something like this based on the description. As long as you stick with PSA and SGC (with honorable mention - sometimes - to GAI, BGS, and possibly SCD), you will seldom go wrong.
I just get a kick out of all the hype touted by these auctions that feature the fly-by-nites.
With training almost all but done at my new job and my schedule coming back to normal next week, I will be able to participate more in the discussions. Looks like there are a couple more '84 Donruss guys that have joined us! Very happy to see that. More and more folks are going towards the beauty of the '84 Donruss set.
I'm hitting the final stretch (last 75 cards or so) on my 1972 Topps Baseball set and I'll be able to get my attention back to working on completing the '84 Donruss set.
I'll catch up on things and see what's been going on by reading the thread tonight.
* '72 BASEBALL #15 100% * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3 * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100% * L. TIANT BASIC #1 * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100% * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3 * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1 * '65 DISNEYLAND #2 * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6 * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
Arnie, It's just not quite the same without you around..............glad things are going well and look forward to seeing you on the board. Whadda group we got going here! Bill
Softie - Climb aboard! Your collecting style and enthusiasm fits right it here. I am sure a number of the members here could start you off in the right direction. Seems we all have dupes from this set that would feel comfortably at home at your house.
Seriously, if your considering a run at it; I can help. PM or email at aja4rayb@msn.com (Check out the Trade Winds set on the Registry for some available cards). RayBShotz
Dan, So are you officially joining the 84D train? If so, let us know so we can formally congratulate you. There's always room on the train for enthusiasts such as you.
<< <i>Dan, So are you officially joining the 84D train? If so, let us know so we can formally congratulate you. There's always room on the train for enthusiasts such as you.
ALL ABOARD!
Bill >>
I really enjoy this set. I don't think I can commit just yet, I have my eyes on 1952 Topps also
Dan, That 52' Topps certainly has the mystique....but just think, you might be able to buy 50-100 1984 Donruss commons in PSA 9 for what you might spend for one PSA mid grade high number 52' Topps. Trust me, this isn't much of a monster at all. Don't worry; we'll help you Ray
Hate 'dem 8's, though every one except #15 Parrish is tough. But you gotta love 'dem 10's! I dont' think the grader liked any card name starting with 'Larry'. Still can't beat Ray's '10 ratio' but I'll take this submission anytime!
Great results! Someday when I grow up I hope I can grade like you guys!! LOL
I bought the "10"below for 5.50 yesterday so I can get a idea what a 10 looks like. I assume I didnt over pay for this card?
When this card comes in I guess I will throw my hat into the ring for this set on the registry! I will only be doing 9's (someone has to!) but if I find a 10 in my price range I will pick up on it. And hopefully after the holidays you all will have something left for me to buy from you!
I have to say this thread has brought me back to collecting life! It is fun knowing you have some guys that share your zest for a set and will be glad for you when you find that one certain card or a submission goes your way!! Dont ever change guys!
By the way what does a average "common" 10 go for? I mean what can I expect to pay. any ideas?
That's a fine 10 and for $5+ and shipping, you did fine. 10's are all over the place pricewise and rightly so: higher pops will usually sell for less - $7 to $12 is usually average, with lower pops hitting bigger numbers. I've paid as little as $1.50 and as much as $45 for psa 10 commons. 1/1's will usually go in the $30-$50 range but that can vary, depending on a variety of factors.
Don't feel uneasy about doing a set in 9's or mostly 9's. With the exception of RVC's incredible psa 10 set, we're all doing the 9 thing and adding 10's if/when they come along, but I doubt any of us is morgaging the farm over it. After all 9's are mint cards.
I try and take the best cards with the most appeal I can find, regardless if 9 or 10. I have several examples where I'm extremely satisfied with my 9's and if a 10 comes along and doesn't cut it, I'll just keep the 9.
Arny, Good to have you back. With this submission, I'm down to 4 cards for the basic set and 11 (would be 10 but sold my Kittle DK Steele) for the master. I've been shuffling cards in both sets recently so the completion % and gpa is not correct. Soon it will be all up to date, probably end of December.
Bill - Bumbry in 10! Wow! Sold my Kittles as well. Couldn't turn it down. Probably the same buyer.
McCardguy - Welcome aboard. Nice 10! Bill's analysis of the general collecting style of this group, is spot on. Anything MINT 9 or better is in. If your patient there will be lot's of bargains for you.
There's been a guy after my Kittle DK for a long time. I've been hanging onto it though because I haven't seen any others graded out there. But, it's been like a year now that he's been asking.
* '72 BASEBALL #15 100% * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3 * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100% * L. TIANT BASIC #1 * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100% * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3 * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1 * '65 DISNEYLAND #2 * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6 * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
I have a nice DK Steele Kittle to submit that should 9 or 10, so I let mine go for an agreed upon price.
As frustrating as Bumbry has been, I've found a few that were just a hair off centering-wise, so it stood to reason a 9-caliber card would be had at some point, and in this instance the centering was extremely tight. Make no mistake, a Bumbry 10 is ever so sweet and this one was certainly was worthy of a 10, but of all the cards that impressed me most in this batch was the McGraw 10. That's got to be one of the 6 to 8 toughest cards in 9/10 form, and I have yet to find any other raw that comes close to displaying the centering and color as this baby does.
Of all 25 cards submitted, I thought the Cey, Bumbry, Rose, McGraw, one of the Ripkens, Garcia, and the Rice had solid chances at 10, so hitting 5 out of 7 ain't bad! My only disappointment, other than the few 8's was Kiko Garcia and one of the Ripkens, which both 9'd. Thought both had an extremely legit shot at a 10, and at some point may revisit them .
Oh, and check out the pop report on #546 Vance Law .......... of the 9 or so examples that have 8'ed (no 9's/10's yet), I've submitted about 6 or 7 and remember sending one in on my first 84D submission almost 3 years ago. This card will probably go down as the most "oh so close, yet so far" card in my set, so it would be fitting if the 'thorn in my side' Law was the last card needed ........................
Bill - You've peaked my curiosity. I'll have to go back and look at my Vance Law cards.
Although I've still got a bunch of cards left to scan and enter into the Registry, I am quite proud to announce I've broken through the 50% barrier on the set in PSA 9 Plus.
This thread has been a constant inspiration and along with my 4 batches of submissions, I have Bill and Bruce to thank for additional chunks of the existing whole.
I love the scans. I'm away from my cards so often that being able to access them from a remote locale is rewarding and the 84' Donruss present really well in scans. Below is the updated set link. I hope to scan and add a few more cards tonight as well.
Way to go Ray. I was striving for over 9 grades also but have backed off a little. I've added a few 8's, mostly DK's until I can find them in 9's which has lowered my overall grade. However I am now also seeking 10's which I wasn't doing before.....you guys really got me hooked now!!!
Don't know which icon applies yet...maybe they all do!!
Al - Completion Pct. is the important number anyhow. As long as your happy with the quality of the 8's you add, there is no embarassment in that. Your progress has been amazing as well.
Does anyone know who stinkynuts is on eBay. Seems this guy is buying up every 84' Donruss set that comes along. He's definitely accumulating raw cards by the pound. Is he a Registry guy?
Don't know who Stinky is but like Ray says he's been hammering 84D. Not sure what's floating his boat but I'll have second thoughts about buying anything from someone who is named stinkynuts.
You guys are cracking me up tonight. Made me remember a Saturday Night Live episode many years ago with one of the Baldwin brothers...don't remember which one but it was a Christmas skit where his name was Sweatty if I remember right and he was making Christmas "balls" and of course they were name, yeah you guessed it, Christmas Sweatty balls.....that episode had me rolling on the ground laughing ...... anyways back to the important stuff, I have some more cards in at PSA now but probably won't see them for awhile....one was posted on the 2nd and the other arrived on the 10th believe it or not.....from last month's special.
LOL....that's one of my favorite skits on SNL all time. It was actually SHWETTY Balls. Hilarious....
By the way, you guys are sending in tons of '84 Donruss! I gotta get on the ball. But, everytime I think that I'm going to get my hands on a hand collated set or factory set, someone is snappin' 'em up.
* '72 BASEBALL #15 100% * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3 * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100% * L. TIANT BASIC #1 * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100% * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3 * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1 * '65 DISNEYLAND #2 * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6 * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
Keep a watchful eye out and you'll find something. I bought a set two weeks ago using buy it now for $60 believe it or not. Got the set and it's factory sealed. Check out the BUY IT NOW if you haven't been. I haven't broken the cellophane on any of the blocks yet but they look great. I also won a set about a month ago when Bill and Ray got me hooked for $125.....I'm still looking to for some more bargains but so far no luck.........I also have a buddy who has four sets that he broke and are real nice but he doesn't want to sell them.......I keep pestering him, trying to wear him down!!!
Ray, Here's a bold prediction - I'll bet you hit 179% complete by the end of April.
Al, If you put your ear very close to the top side of a factory set cello block and be very still, you will may hear a faint voice that says 'open - open - open'. You may also notice sudden movement of the cello blocks, in the form of very slight wiggles or twisting, if you stare at them long enough with the lid open.
As far as your buddy with 4 sets? There's a faint voice that says 'pester - pester - pester'......................
They posted my latest submission....here's some of the highlights from the Donruss I submitted. The Ashby and Law are from a factory set I just bought......why couldn't the Ashby been a shade better center...I took a chance .........and my second 1 of 1 PSA 10 will be coming back...........Wish I could tell the grading better on the DK's....I'm getting better on the regular cards.......I took a chance on the Power card, you never know...the submission number is on the bottom if you want to check out my other cards that were submitted...zip 44130
1984 DONRUSS 539 ALAN ASHBY N/A 9OC 1984 DONRUSS 546 VANCE LAW N/A 9 1984 DONRUSS 447 TED POWER N/A 8 1984 DONRUSS 325 DUANE WALKER N/A 9 1984 DONRUSS 325 DUANE WALKER N/A 10 1984 DONRUSS 313 SPIKE OWEN N/A 9 1984 DONRUSS 21 LARRY PARRISH DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8 1984 DONRUSS 329 ROB WILFONG N/A 9 1984 DONRUSS 20 BILL MADLOCK DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8 1984 DONRUSS 24 PEDRO GUERRERO DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8 1984 DONRUSS 19 JIM CLANCY DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8 1984 DONRUSS 18 RON KITTLE DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9 1984 DONRUSS 17 FRED LYNN DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9 1984 DONRUSS 16 MATT YOUNG DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8 1984 DONRUSS 15 LANCE PARRISH DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8 1984 DONRUSS 14 BOB HORNER DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8 1984 DONRUSS 13 BRUCE SUTTER DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8 1984 DONRUSS 12 RAY KNIGHT DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9 1984 DONRUSS 11 HAL McRAE DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9 1984 DONRUSS 10 DAVE RIGHETTI DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9 1984 DONRUSS 9 AL OLIVER DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9 1984 DONRUSS 7 JACK CLARK DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8 1984 DONRUSS 6 RUSTY STAUB DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9 1984 DONRUSS 5 LEON DURHAM DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9 1984 DONRUSS 3 DWAYNE MURPHY DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9
584192 submission number Date Received: 12/03/2005 Date of Grades Posted: 12/13/2005 Date Shipped: 12/13/2005
Al, That's really pretty nice. Congrats on the Law in PSA 9; that's a real tough one. ..and that Walker in 10. All in all it looks like you got a bunch of stuff there you can plug into your set. Gotta love it though, when those grades pop. Having fun through you tonight. RayB
Thanks Ray. I have one more 52 card submission I haven't gotten back yet.....I placed the Mattingly from the factory set I bought in that submission along with a McGraw and Staub that I thought were real nice........hopefully it will pan out....one can only dream of 10's!!! I'll have scans to post when the cards arrive.....boy, what a Christmas present....
Not too shabby Al. Better than some of my original submissions. Sheesh.
If you have any dupes, please make a list because I'd love to see if you had anything that I might need. Ray, I checked your dupes set and nothing that I needed. But, with all of those submissions, should only be a matter of time.
* '72 BASEBALL #15 100% * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3 * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100% * L. TIANT BASIC #1 * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100% * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3 * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1 * '65 DISNEYLAND #2 * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6 * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
Al - Congrats on the Law! Amazing............I've spend darn close 3 years finding a Law that will 9 - then WHAMO - Al pops up with a 1/1. Ray did the same thing with Fitzgerald. You guys are killing me!!
Just goes to show ya that what's tough for one person might not be for another. That's one paradox of set building but it sure keeps things interesting.
BTW, are those STEEL's really STEEL's?..............I hope you didn't get any mislables. Finally, on my last submission they got them ALL correct!
The STEEL's are for real. I took your advice and made sure I placed a bold message with the submission so they would get it right. ALso I do plan to make a list of doubles I have and hope to be able to make some trades with others who may have something I need in exchange for my extras....just been so darn busy with the holidays and all.....by the way never to early...hope all the fellow 84 D's have a happy holiday and most of safe holiday season......
Trades work for me. I will trade for PSA 10's I need. I have bothe 10's and 9's in my Trade Winds set on the Registry. Will trade multiple 9's for any 10. Also looking to make straight trades for 9's I need as well. In other words almost anything goes Let's have fun! RayBShotz
Here's Al's raw Castino in new clothes. M. Young is an absolute bear, so a 9 is always welcome. Ripken will be revisited sometime and Stenhouse is a 1/1 9 with one 10. I've had this card for a long time and didn't submit due to the slightly rough-cut RH border.
McGraw will replace the 1/1 9 and is a far superior example - the colors are stunning and the scan doesn't show how nice this card is. The elusive Bumby finally finds a home with me. Ramos is tough. Garcia simply looks and bleeds color similar to the others, but it 9'ed - it will be revisited.
Beautifully centered Rose - whadda think Neal? I'm 2 for 2 in psa 10's for Krukow. Cey is nice and there are a few 10's around but I couldn't find one for the longest time. Here's my nemis.................Mr. Law, AGAIN with an 8. Yeah I know the centering T/B is off but thought it ok for 9-land.....a minutely dinged corner perhaps?
Great stuff especially with the Bumbry, the DKs, McGraw and the Krukow. Can you add the McGraw to my list of 'needed' cards Bill? Or, is it already spoken for?
* '72 BASEBALL #15 100% * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3 * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100% * L. TIANT BASIC #1 * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100% * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3 * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1 * '65 DISNEYLAND #2 * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6 * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
Hi everyone....guess who is upset on Ohio today.....I just received my lastest submission back and it include 18 DK's that I thought they had labeled correctly.....boy was I wrong.....all 18 of them are mislabeled. This occurred even though I had the submission labeled correctly and I even took the time to include STEELE in the variety field. Guess we will find out how PSA is at handling mistakes, I've already sent off a message to them....Great news for you Bill.....they didn't screw up the Law card!!.
They'll have you send them back in to get corrected with specific instructions. I went through the trouble of asking about them and just haven't sent them in. I've got at least 3/4 of my DKs mislabeled, I think.
I have to get around to submitting these few '84s that I have. Just can't seem to get the time to do the forms. I have never done a submission via the mail before as I had PSA locally twice in the last few years (only two submissions that I've done) and handled it in person. In each case, the PSA rep filled out all of the info for me. So, I just have to sit down and see how to go about it. I'm sure it's not that difficult. I've got that darn Bumbry to send in and a couple of others that are decently centered and have outside shots at a 10.
* '72 BASEBALL #15 100% * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3 * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100% * L. TIANT BASIC #1 * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100% * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3 * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1 * '65 DISNEYLAND #2 * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6 * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
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<< <i>Up for auction is a beautiful investment quality card graded a GEM MINT 10 by Graded Rookies Authenticated (GRA). Graded Rookies Authenticated, featured by Beckett in the August 2001 issue of Baseball Card Monthly (e-Trends), is amongst the toughest graders in the industry. The card up for auction is virtually flawless in all respects. Please see the scan of the card back for the individual subgrades in the centering, corners, edges, and surface categories. Simply stated, this one will make an outstanding addition to any advanced sportscard collection. Winning bidder please see listing for shipping and handling costs and add to final auction price. THANKS! >>
The reality is simply this: GRA, along with probably 50 other so-called grading companies, is just a fly-by-nite operation. I'd be too embarrassed to sell something like this based on the description. As long as you stick with PSA and SGC (with honorable mention - sometimes - to GAI, BGS, and possibly SCD), you will seldom go wrong.
I just get a kick out of all the hype touted by these auctions that feature the fly-by-nites.
With training almost all but done at my new job and my schedule coming back to normal next week, I will be able to participate more in the discussions. Looks like there are a couple more '84 Donruss guys that have joined us! Very happy to see that. More and more folks are going towards the beauty of the '84 Donruss set.
I'm hitting the final stretch (last 75 cards or so) on my 1972 Topps Baseball set and I'll be able to get my attention back to working on completing the '84 Donruss set.
I'll catch up on things and see what's been going on by reading the thread tonight.
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
WaltDisneyBoards
It's just not quite the same without you around..............glad things are going well and look forward to seeing you on the board. Whadda group we got going here!
Bill
This thread is just awesome .....
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
Seriously, if your considering a run at it; I can help. PM or email at aja4rayb@msn.com (Check out the Trade Winds set on the Registry for some available cards).
RayBShotz
this is all I need. Another monster modern set to collect. Go ahead and twist my arm
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
So are you officially joining the 84D train? If so, let us know so we can formally congratulate you. There's always room on the train for enthusiasts such as you.
ALL ABOARD!
Bill
<< <i>Dan,
So are you officially joining the 84D train? If so, let us know so we can formally congratulate you. There's always room on the train for enthusiasts such as you.
ALL ABOARD!
Bill >>
I really enjoy this set. I don't think I can commit just yet, I have my eyes on 1952 Topps also
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
That 52' Topps certainly has the mystique....but just think, you might be able to buy 50-100 1984 Donruss commons in PSA 9 for what you might spend for one PSA mid grade high number 52' Topps.
Trust me, this isn't much of a monster at all. Don't worry; we'll help you
Ray
RayBShotz
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
WaltDisneyBoards
Grade popage................whahooooo!
Hate 'dem 8's, though every one except #15 Parrish is tough. But you gotta love 'dem 10's! I dont' think the grader liked any card name starting with 'Larry'. Still can't beat Ray's '10 ratio' but I'll take this submission anytime!
Highlights?
Stenhouse #'d 9
Bumbry 10
Ramos 10
Garcia 9
Mcgraw 10
Hey Al.........that's the Castino from you.......now a sweet 10.......thanks!
LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 12431989 1984 DONRUSS 4 JOHN CASTINO DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 10
2 12431990 1984 DONRUSS 8 DAVE DRAVECKY DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8
3 12431991 1984 DONRUSS 10 DAVE RIGHETTI DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 9
4 12431992 1984 DONRUSS 11 HAL McRAE DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 9
5 12431993 1984 DONRUSS 15 LANCE PARRISH DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
6 12431994 1984 DONRUSS 16 MATT YOUNG DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9
7 12431995 1984 DONRUSS 20 BILL MADLOCK DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 9
8 12431996 1984 DONRUSS 21 LARRY PARRISH DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
9 12431997 1984 DONRUSS 21 LARRY PARRISH DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 8
10 12431998 1984 DONRUSS 26 WADE BOGGS DIAMOND KINGS-STEELE 10
11 12431999 1984 DONRUSS 29 MIKE STENHOUSE #29 ON BACK 9
12 12432000 1984 DONRUSS 50 JIM RICE N/A 10
13 12432001 1984 DONRUSS 61 PETE ROSE N/A 10
14 12432002 1984 DONRUSS 106 CAL RIPKEN JR. N/A 9
15 12432003 1984 DONRUSS 106 CAL RIPKEN JR. N/A 9
16 12432004 1984 DONRUSS 121 DAVE CONCEPCION N/A 6
17 12432005 1984 DONRUSS 210 AL BUMBRY N/A 10
18 12432006 1984 DONRUSS 246 BOB L. GIBSON N/A 9
19 12432007 1984 DONRUSS 274 LOU PINIELLA N/A 9
20 12432008 1984 DONRUSS 361 RON CEY N/A 10
21 12432009 1984 DONRUSS 440 DOMINGO RAMOS N/A 10
22 12432010 1984 DONRUSS 509 MIKE KRUKOW N/A 10
23 12432011 1984 DONRUSS 545 KIKO GARCIA N/A 9
24 12432012 1984 DONRUSS 546 VANCE LAW N/A 8
25 12432013 1984 DONRUSS 547 TUG McGRAW N/A 10
Date Received: 12/05/2005
Date of Grades Posted: 12/09/2005
Date Shipped: 12/09/2005
Great results! Someday when I grow up I hope I can grade like you guys!! LOL
I bought the "10"below for 5.50 yesterday so I can get a idea what a 10 looks like. I assume I didnt over pay for this card?
When this card comes in I guess I will throw my hat into the ring for this set on the registry! I will only be doing 9's (someone has to!) but if I find a 10 in my price range I will pick up on it. And hopefully after the holidays you all will have something left for me to buy from you!
I have to say this thread has brought me back to collecting life! It is fun knowing you have some guys that share your zest for a set and will be glad for you when you find that one certain card or a submission goes your way!! Dont ever change guys!
By the way what does a average "common" 10 go for? I mean what can I expect to pay. any ideas?
So, how close to finishing are you now?
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
WaltDisneyBoards
That's a fine 10 and for $5+ and shipping, you did fine. 10's are all over the place pricewise and rightly so: higher pops will usually sell for less - $7 to $12 is usually average, with lower pops hitting bigger numbers. I've paid as little as $1.50 and as much as $45 for psa 10 commons. 1/1's will usually go in the $30-$50 range but that can vary, depending on a variety of factors.
Don't feel uneasy about doing a set in 9's or mostly 9's. With the exception of RVC's incredible psa 10 set, we're all doing the 9 thing and adding 10's if/when they come along, but I doubt any of us is morgaging the farm over it. After all 9's are mint cards.
I try and take the best cards with the most appeal I can find, regardless if 9 or 10. I have several examples where I'm extremely satisfied with my 9's and if a 10 comes along and doesn't cut it, I'll just keep the 9.
Arny,
Good to have you back. With this submission, I'm down to 4 cards for the basic set and 11 (would be 10 but sold my Kittle DK Steele) for the master. I've been shuffling cards in both sets recently so the completion % and gpa is not correct. Soon it will be all up to date, probably end of December.
al.
Sold my Kittles as well. Couldn't turn it down. Probably the same buyer.
McCardguy - Welcome aboard. Nice 10! Bill's analysis of the general collecting style of this group, is spot on. Anything MINT 9 or better is in. If your patient there will be lot's of bargains for you.
RayBShotz
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
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As frustrating as Bumbry has been, I've found a few that were just a hair off centering-wise, so it stood to reason a 9-caliber card would be had at some point, and in this instance the centering was extremely tight. Make no mistake, a Bumbry 10 is ever so sweet and this one was certainly was worthy of a 10, but of all the cards that impressed me most in this batch was the McGraw 10. That's got to be one of the 6 to 8 toughest cards in 9/10 form, and I have yet to find any other raw that comes close to displaying the centering and color as this baby does.
Of all 25 cards submitted, I thought the Cey, Bumbry, Rose, McGraw, one of the Ripkens, Garcia, and the Rice had solid chances at 10, so hitting 5 out of 7 ain't bad! My only disappointment, other than the few 8's was Kiko Garcia and one of the Ripkens, which both 9'd. Thought both had an extremely legit shot at a 10, and at some point may revisit them
Oh, and check out the pop report on #546 Vance Law .......... of the 9 or so examples that have 8'ed (no 9's/10's yet), I've submitted about 6 or 7 and remember sending one in on my first 84D submission almost 3 years ago. This card will probably go down as the most "oh so close, yet so far" card in my set, so it would be fitting if the 'thorn in my side' Law was the last card needed ........................
I'll post scans when the cards come back.
Although I've still got a bunch of cards left to scan and enter into the Registry, I am quite proud to announce I've broken through the 50% barrier on the set in PSA 9 Plus.
This thread has been a constant inspiration and along with my 4 batches of submissions, I have Bill and Bruce to thank for additional chunks of the existing whole.
I love the scans. I'm away from my cards so often that being able to access them from a remote locale is rewarding and the 84' Donruss present really well in scans. Below is the updated set link. I hope to scan and add a few more cards tonight as well.
Going Yard - My 84' Donruss Set
Enjoy and thanks again all.
RaybShotz
I know that 50% was a huge barrier for me and you are crossing it in record time! Good luck the rest of the way!
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Don't know which icon applies yet...maybe they all do!!
Does anyone know who stinkynuts is on eBay. Seems this guy is buying up every 84' Donruss set that comes along. He's definitely accumulating raw cards by the pound. Is he a Registry guy?
RayBShotz
By the way, you guys are sending in tons of '84 Donruss! I gotta get on the ball. But, everytime I think that I'm going to get my hands on a hand collated set or factory set, someone is snappin' 'em up.
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Here's a bold prediction - I'll bet you hit 179% complete by the end of April.
Al,
If you put your ear very close to the top side of a factory set cello block and be very still, you will may hear a faint voice that says 'open - open - open'. You may also notice sudden movement of the cello blocks, in the form of very slight wiggles or twisting, if you stare at them long enough with the lid open.
As far as your buddy with 4 sets? There's a faint voice that says 'pester - pester - pester'......................
Bill
Ray, can you just submit the ones that I need and I pay you a finders fee or something? You are doing great with that 'eye' that you have!
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If you need anything in my trading set, maybe we can work something out. You must have some dupes that I still need.
Ray
Hey I partially responded now just so we could see 84,85&86 Donruss all on top at once.
The Ashby and Law are from a factory set I just bought......why couldn't the Ashby been a shade better center...I took a chance .........and my second 1 of 1 PSA 10 will be coming back...........Wish I could tell the grading better on the DK's....I'm getting better on the regular cards.......I took a chance on the Power card, you never know...the submission number is on the bottom if you want to check out my other cards that were submitted...zip 44130
1984 DONRUSS 539 ALAN ASHBY N/A 9OC
1984 DONRUSS 546 VANCE LAW N/A 9
1984 DONRUSS 447 TED POWER N/A 8
1984 DONRUSS 325 DUANE WALKER N/A 9
1984 DONRUSS 325 DUANE WALKER N/A 10
1984 DONRUSS 313 SPIKE OWEN N/A 9
1984 DONRUSS 21 LARRY PARRISH DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8
1984 DONRUSS 329 ROB WILFONG N/A 9
1984 DONRUSS 20 BILL MADLOCK DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8
1984 DONRUSS 24 PEDRO GUERRERO DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8
1984 DONRUSS 19 JIM CLANCY DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8
1984 DONRUSS 18 RON KITTLE DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9
1984 DONRUSS 17 FRED LYNN DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9
1984 DONRUSS 16 MATT YOUNG DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8
1984 DONRUSS 15 LANCE PARRISH DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8
1984 DONRUSS 14 BOB HORNER DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8
1984 DONRUSS 13 BRUCE SUTTER DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8
1984 DONRUSS 12 RAY KNIGHT DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9
1984 DONRUSS 11 HAL McRAE DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9
1984 DONRUSS 10 DAVE RIGHETTI DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9
1984 DONRUSS 9 AL OLIVER DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9
1984 DONRUSS 7 JACK CLARK DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 8
1984 DONRUSS 6 RUSTY STAUB DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9
1984 DONRUSS 5 LEON DURHAM DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9
1984 DONRUSS 3 DWAYNE MURPHY DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL 9
584192 submission number
Date Received: 12/03/2005
Date of Grades Posted: 12/13/2005
Date Shipped: 12/13/2005
That's really pretty nice. Congrats on the Law in PSA 9; that's a real tough one. ..and that Walker in 10.
All in all it looks like you got a bunch of stuff there you can plug into your set.
Gotta love it though, when those grades pop.
Having fun through you tonight.
RayB
If you have any dupes, please make a list because I'd love to see if you had anything that I might need. Ray, I checked your dupes set and nothing that I needed. But, with all of those submissions, should only be a matter of time.
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Just goes to show ya that what's tough for one person might not be for another. That's one paradox of set building but it sure keeps things interesting.
BTW, are those STEEL's really STEEL's?..............I hope you didn't get any mislables. Finally, on my last submission they got them ALL correct!
Trades work for me. I will trade for PSA 10's I need. I have bothe 10's and 9's in my Trade Winds set on the Registry. Will trade multiple 9's for any 10.
Also looking to make straight trades for 9's I need as well. In other words almost anything goes
Let's have fun!
RayBShotz
Picked up my subs today and will post scans later tonight (pst). You also have a small package on the way, and I'm sure you'll return the favor
All I can say is: 3 to go! Whahhhhhhhhhhhooooo!!!!!!!!
Here's Al's raw Castino in new clothes. M. Young is an absolute bear, so a 9 is always welcome. Ripken will be revisited sometime and Stenhouse is a 1/1 9 with one 10. I've had this card for a long time and didn't submit due to the slightly rough-cut RH border.
McGraw will replace the 1/1 9 and is a far superior example - the colors are stunning and the scan doesn't show how nice this card is. The elusive Bumby finally finds a home with me. Ramos is tough. Garcia simply looks and bleeds color similar to the others, but it 9'ed - it will be revisited.
Beautifully centered Rose - whadda think Neal? I'm 2 for 2 in psa 10's for Krukow. Cey is nice and there are a few 10's around but I couldn't find one for the longest time. Here's my nemis.................Mr. Law, AGAIN with an 8. Yeah I know the centering T/B is off but thought it ok for 9-land.....a minutely dinged corner perhaps?
me likey!
I actually had a Rose Mizuno game used bat that was the same model as the one in Charlie's hands. Nice card Bill - hope you get those last three soon!
Great stuff especially with the Bumbry, the DKs, McGraw and the Krukow. Can you add the McGraw to my list of 'needed' cards Bill? Or, is it already spoken for?
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I have to get around to submitting these few '84s that I have. Just can't seem to get the time to do the forms. I have never done a submission via the mail before as I had PSA locally twice in the last few years (only two submissions that I've done) and handled it in person. In each case, the PSA rep filled out all of the info for me. So, I just have to sit down and see how to go about it. I'm sure it's not that difficult. I've got that darn Bumbry to send in and a couple of others that are decently centered and have outside shots at a 10.
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