Ray, with my search for a new job and the Hurricane stuff going on....it kind of took a back seat. But, I start my new job this coming Monday and I'll get our project going again.
* '72 BASEBALL #15 100% * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3 * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100% * L. TIANT BASIC #1 * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100% * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3 * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1 * '65 DISNEYLAND #2 * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6 * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
Good luck with the new job Arny!! Just wondering from the 84 Donruss collectors, what do you think is the best action shot from the 84 Donruss set. Please scan. Just wanted to a selection of nice action shots from this set.
If the last 6 or 7 carter psa 10's are indicators, it will be sniped by one individual in the upper $200 to mid-$300 range. He continually hammers the carter 10's: don't remember what his ebay id is.
Al - There are internet websites such as esnipe.com that will place an automated bid for you at a preprescribed time; usually within the last few seconds of an auctions end. This provides you with the element of surprise and also more or less guarantees that you don't get shut out when you try and wait till the last second yourself. It is also convenient for auctions that end during a time of day or night you can't be in front of your computer. Give esnipe.com your high bid and go to sleep it does the rest. They charge a small fee for this, but you don't leave yourself open to getting "run up" when you place your bid early. In the long run, not getting run up probably more than pays for the fee. I don't think I missed a thing.
Esnipe requires you to tell RayB in advance anytime you are sniping an 84D card. RayBShotz
To add to what Ray mentioned, you can also check out www.justsnipe.com for their version. I pay $5 per month which gives me unlimited snipes @5 seconds before auction close. I also installed the 'justsnipe' button on my browser's toolbar - I just click on the auction, then click the justsnipe button,and enter my max bid amount. It's a piece of cake. Highly recommended in the registry set building world.
Watch what happens to the Carter psa 10 today for a preview. Check out the auction close date/time. When the auction ends, check out the bids and look at the times at which the top underbidder's bids were placed and compare these to the auction close time.
thanks everyone, I guess this sniping explains the times I thought I was golden and then WHAM, I lost the auction at the last moment.....Can any of you suggest decent prices to bid on a Mattingly, Ryan and Strawberry from this year.... I noticed a Mattingly that ends tomorrow. thanks al.
The Carter 10 RC topped $300. The renewed interest in this set is both exciting and frustrating. On one hand, you have a lot of collectors interested making things very enjoyable....but, on the other hand, the competition now steps up a notch! LOL
Those cards that were previously hardly looked at now have three or four solid bidders per. Oh well, I'm not that far off from completion....plus, I should be looking at only completing and not upgrading, right?
* '72 BASEBALL #15 100% * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3 * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100% * L. TIANT BASIC #1 * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100% * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3 * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1 * '65 DISNEYLAND #2 * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6 * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
Ray, Yep, that's the guyI recall - kkpkrk. I wouldn't be surprized if his snipe was in the $375 range. He seems to be in the mode of buying every carter 10 on the planet. Sorta reminds me of 'godswork' with respect to 1980 rickey henderson psa 9's.
Arny, Are you getting back up to speed at home? Hope all goes well and you're back on track in no time.
Well, things are going well, just today have the local crews coming and picking up some of the big debris that we've moved to the front of the house. Fences are still down, but overall not bad.
I start my new job tomorrow (finally! ) and things should start getting back to normal soon!
* '72 BASEBALL #15 100% * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3 * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100% * L. TIANT BASIC #1 * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100% * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3 * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1 * '65 DISNEYLAND #2 * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6 * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
The 'lull' in the action of 84D psa's on ebay didn't last too long........ a bunch of 10's now up for grabs. Many are of higher pops' so I'm not too excited, but I'd like the nicely centered winfield. We'll see how this one goes, as this is a high pop in 10 also.
Maybe I'll lowball snipe on ones I'd like to upgrade. Sandberg is already out of my range. How 'bout you guys?
I just threw up my dupes on the Registry as "My Trade Winds" set. If anyone is interested in trading for any of these, I would be looking for 9's and 10's that I need for my set.
HI everyone, getting a lot ready to go to PSA. See how they go. I'm going to start with 25 or so and see how they fare.....thanks for the snipe info. don't know if I will use it but I'll hold it for future. picked up some cards this weekend from a Morty's...anyone have any dealings in the past with them??? One of them is a Eck PSA 9, guess I'll be upgrading my PSA 2!!! I'm keeping it though for memories..
Well, received the cards I won over the weekend and have to show everyone my new Eckersley......I'm placing my PSA 2 in retirement and this one will be loaded in my registry set.
I purchased several wax boxes this year and had mixed results in terms of centering problems. Some boxes, however were viturally 100% OC in some form or fashion (I had some boxes that everything seemed grade-able also), but I dunno. I love this set visually, but are wax boxes hard on centering?
Any similar or non-similar experiences will justify my cause better.
Al, Nice Eck 9.........another cool pic in the 84D set. Hair a-flyin -- ball a-com'n....... doesn't get any better than that.
Julen, I think these cards in wax/rak/factory are just like all the others from Topps/Donruss/Fleer. It all seems like a crap shoot. If you find a box from the right case, they all may be nice. Just depends. Some of the more serious collectors will monitor case numbers to determine to buy or not. Problem is, when's the last time you saw a 84D wax case for sale or break.......it's been awhile for me.
Last week I submitted 3 invoices. The first was a 20 card submission of material chosen from the high end raw set I acquired. I had high hopes for this submission and even sent the Bumbry and Ashby cards pictured in a previous post above. PSA has graded these and the results were a little lower than I expected considering the material submitted but the Bumbry and Ashby cards were both sort of a reach even for a 9. As you can see here they both received 8's. The Seaver was also a slight reach and received an 8 as well. Here's the results:
The sceond batch is highly anticipated yet because it is the monster 74 card submission from the same high end raw set. I tried to be even more disciminating about those. Not yet received grades.
The third batch (25 cards) was an unqualified disaster. This batch was cards pulled from a FACTORY SET I bought. Some of the cards appeared to be a bit small but PSA as you'll see has graded them all without question. I wonder to myself if that is where those 5's and 6's came from. These cards appeared to be MINT as submitted. A few of the star cards had slight centering issues which I decided to send and give a shot anyway but I really can't explain the harsh treatment on these. (Grader of Death?)
PSA Order Status for Submission # 582818
LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE 1 12408452 1984 DONRUSS 47 EDDIE MURRAY N/A 8 2 12408453 1984 DONRUSS 112 TERRY KENNEDY N/A 9 3 12408454 1984 DONRUSS 144 GARY WOODS N/A 8 4 12408455 1984 DONRUSS 151 WADE BOGGS N/A 8 5 12408456 1984 DONRUSS 173 RON GUIDRY N/A 7 6 12408457 1984 DONRUSS 288 DAVE PARKER N/A 9 7 12408458 1984 DONRUSS 295 SHANE RAWLEY N/A 9 8 12408459 1984 DONRUSS 297 HAL McRAE N/A 9 9 12408460 1984 DONRUSS 311 RYNE SANDBERG N/A 9 10 12408461 1984 DONRUSS 313 SPIKE OWEN N/A 9 11 12408462 1984 DONRUSS 324 TONY GWYNN N/A 8 12 12408463 1984 DONRUSS 330 MARC HILL N/A 9 13 12408464 1984 DONRUSS 341 SCOTT SANDERSON N/A 5 14 12408465 1984 DONRUSS 347 ANDRE ROBERTSON N/A 8 15 12408466 1984 DONRUSS 352 ROD CAREW N/A 5 16 12408467 1984 DONRUSS 355 JOE MORGAN N/A 6 17 12408468 1984 DONRUSS 464 WAYNE TOLLESON N/A 9 18 12408469 1984 DONRUSS 500 BOB JOHNSON N/A 9 19 12408470 1984 DONRUSS 508 MARVELL WYNNE N/A 8 20 12408471 1984 DONRUSS 513 RANDY BUSH N/A 9 21 12408472 1984 DONRUSS 516 AURELIO LOPEZ N/A 9 22 12408473 1984 DONRUSS 607 HUBIE BROOKS N/A 8 23 12408474 1984 DONRUSS 639 DENNIS ECKERSLEY N/A 9 24 12408475 1984 DONRUSS 204 AL HOLLAND N/A 8 25 12408476 1984 DONRUSS 202 TIM FLANNERY N/A 8 Date Received: 11/08/2005 Date of Grades Posted: 11/10/2005
At least I picked up a Sandberg and an Eckersley in 9.
I expect the 74 card submission to do much better. Stay tuned.
After reviewing my results and the POP report for this set it appears that getting even 9's on a few of these is tough, if you assume that low total POP numbers are an early indicator of unsubmittable cards from this set.
I received 9's on: 136 Scott 172 Remy 185 Templeton 464 Tolleson 604 Vandeberg
I can't say for sure that these 5 cards are necessarily tough yet (Bill, you may have a better feel) for centering but total POP numbers are quite low on these few. Anybody with any experience with these cards specifically?
Final note: PSA graded both of these under the November Special in two days. Makes you wonder why anyone would pay more for faster service if a special grades this quickly.
Ray, I'll comment more on your subs when I get more time, but I can tell you that the Remy was hardest of those 5 for me. PSA's turn-around time for me has been similar - just a few days.
Holy Crap! I would say I did a bit better on this one!!
I knew this high end raw set was solid when I bought it and that these 74 cards were the best of the best of it. This is, flat out, astonishing however. I am really pleased.This has renewed my faith that if you give a perfect card to PSA, that it deserves and will recieve a PSA 10 if the merits are there.
Just take a look at this run.
PSA Order Status for Submission # 580763
LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE 1 12408371 1984 DONRUSS 34 KEVIN McREYNOLDS N/A 10 2 12408372 1984 DONRUSS 36 BRAD KOMMINSK N/A 9 3 12408373 1984 DONRUSS 37 TIM TEUFEL N/A 10 4 12408374 1984 DONRUSS 42 MIKE BROWN N/A 8 5 12408375 1984 DONRUSS 44 SID FERNANDEZ N/A 9 6 12408376 1984 DONRUSS 71 DAVE STIEB N/A 10 7 12408377 1984 DONRUSS 61 PETE ROSE N/A 9 8 12408378 1984 DONRUSS 51 DAVE WINFIELD N/A 10 9 12408379 1984 DONRUSS 74 JOHN MOSES N/A 8 10 12408380 1984 DONRUSS 80 KURT BEVACQUA N/A 10 11 12408381 1984 DONRUSS 85 RICK ADAMS N/A 10 12 12408382 1984 DONRUSS 95 ONIX CONCEPCION N/A 10 13 12408383 1984 DONRUSS 123 MIKE BODDICKER N/A 9 14 12408384 1984 DONRUSS 124 PETE LADD N/A 9 15 12408385 1984 DONRUSS 127 ED JURAK N/A 9 16 12408386 1984 DONRUSS 129 BERT BLYLEVEN N/A 10 17 12408387 1984 DONRUSS 131 GORMAN HEIMUELLER N/A 10 18 12408388 1984 DONRUSS 132 DAN SCHATZEDER N/A 10 19 12408389 1984 DONRUSS 137 BO DIAZ N/A 10 20 12408390 1984 DONRUSS 138 GLENN BRUMMER N/A 10 21 12408391 1984 DONRUSS 142 BRIAN HARPER N/A 10 22 12408392 1984 DONRUSS 143 JOHN RABB N/A 10 23 12408393 1984 DONRUSS 150 JOHN WOCKENFUSS N/A 9 24 12408394 1984 DONRUSS 154 ALAN BANNISTER N/A 10 25 12408395 1984 DONRUSS 176 CARNEY LANSFORD N/A 9 26 12408396 1984 DONRUSS 203 BILL SCHERRER N/A 9 27 12408397 1984 DONRUSS 205 DAVID VON OHLEN N/A 10 28 12408398 1984 DONRUSS 212 HOWARD BAILEY N/A 10 29 12408399 1984 DONRUSS 214 BOB SHIRLEY N/A 10 30 12408400 1984 DONRUSS 225 ROY SMALLEY N/A 9 31 12408401 1984 DONRUSS 245 TIM STODDARD N/A 10 32 12408402 1984 DONRUSS 248 DON MATTINGLY N/A 8 33 12408403 1984 DONRUSS 251 TOBY HARRAH N/A 10 34 12408404 1984 DONRUSS 254 DOUG FLYNN N/A 9 35 12408405 1984 DONRUSS 255 ANDY HASSLER N/A 9 36 12408406 1984 DONRUSS 265 BRAD WELLMAN N/A 10 37 12408407 1984 DONRUSS 276 BROD PERKINS N/A 8 38 12408408 1984 DONRUSS 277 BUTCH DAVIS N/A 10 39 12408409 1984 DONRUSS 289 LEE SMITH N/A 9 40 12408410 1984 DONRUSS 328 BILL DAWLEY N/A 10 41 12408411 1984 DONRUSS 330 MARC HILL N/A 10 42 12408412 1984 DONRUSS 332 ALLAN RAMIREZ N/A 9 43 12408413 1984 DONRUSS 337 JOE BECKWITH N/A 10 44 12408414 1984 DONRUSS 345 CHRIS CODIROLI N/A 10 45 12408415 1984 DONRUSS 346 RICK BEHENNA N/A 10 46 12408416 1984 DONRUSS 351 CECIL COOPER N/A 10 47 12408417 1984 DONRUSS 355 JOE MORGAN N/A 10 48 12408418 1984 DONRUSS 361 RON CEY N/A 9 49 12408419 1984 DONRUSS 377 STEVE LUBRATICH N/A 10 50 12408420 1984 DONRUSS 378 JON MATLACK N/A 10 51 12408421 1984 DONRUSS 383 DOUG GWOSDZ N/A 9 52 12408422 1984 DONRUSS 386 MILT MAY N/A 10 53 12408423 1984 DONRUSS 387 FRED BREINING N/A 10 54 12408424 1984 DONRUSS 388 CRAIG LEFFERTS N/A 10 55 12408425 1984 DONRUSS 392 GARY ROENICKE N/A 10 56 12408426 1984 DONRUSS 408 DANN BILARDELLO N/A 10 57 12408427 1984 DONRUSS 423 BRIAN DOWNING N/A 10 58 12408428 1984 DONRUSS 430 DALE BERRA N/A 9 59 12408429 1984 DONRUSS 444 MIKE EASLER N/A 9 60 12408430 1984 DONRUSS 445 RENIE MARTIN N/A 10 61 12408431 1984 DONRUSS 448 CHARLIE HUDSON N/A 10 62 12408432 1984 DONRUSS 457 DENNIS OIL CAN BOYD N/A 10 63 12408433 1984 DONRUSS 461 DANNY JACKSON N/A 10 64 12408434 1984 DONRUSS 469 STEVE KEMP N/A 10 65 12408435 1984 DONRUSS 482 MIKE FITZGERALD N/A 9 66 12408436 1984 DONRUSS 484 RON ROENICKE N/A 10 67 12408437 1984 DONRUSS 505 MARK THURMOND N/A 9 68 12408438 1984 DONRUSS 520 GERRY WILLARD N/A 9 69 12408439 1984 DONRUSS 522 TOM BURGMEIER N/A 9 70 12408440 1984 DONRUSS 531 JERRY ROYSTER N/A 9 71 12408441 1984 DONRUSS 583 DAN QUISENBERRY N/A 10 72 12408442 1984 DONRUSS 598 DAVE ENGLE N/A 10 73 12408443 1984 DONRUSS 611 MARK CLEAR N/A 10 74 12408444 1984 DONRUSS 617 JOEY McLAUGHLIN N/A 9
Date Received: 11/08/2005 Date of Grades Posted: 11/11/2005 Date Shipped: No Date Specified
As an afterthought I stuck that one Mattingly card that I pulled from the Factory set in the middle of this lot. They found it for the PSA 8 it was. Perfect and clean it just did'nt have PSA 9 centering.
This last couple of weeks grading these and submitting has been the most fun I've had with PSA and set building in a real long time. Thanks guys for the push. Ray
Great results Ray. I'm getting ready to mail in some that I pulled from a factory set also. The set has been in plastic since I bought it back in 84 so I can only hope to get similar results....I'll settle for 9's, I'm not greedy!!! I also want to thanks all of the registry members that are working on this set who get me inspired to try and put the set together.....it's gotten me away from some of the other sets I am working on but I think I needed a break anyways........don't know if any of you are hockey buffs but just got these back from a recent submission and am proud to show them off, at least temporarily until they are sold...I'll let everyone know how I do on my Donruss submission when I get them back......
ray- way to go!!!! real nice results and great reading.
alnav- great to have you aboard- i love those hockey cards. where did you get those sharp '75's? i'm interested in the clarke, lmk what you are looking for or when you post on ebay. thanks
If anyone is interested, I have a non-factory 1984 Donruss set for sale. The cards are NM-MT or better. I will sell it for $50 delivered. If the buyer is not happy with the cards, you can return it to me for a full refund.
Al, Those are cool hockey cards; nicely centered with great color................
Ray, Those results on the 74 card submission are fantastic, to say the least. 46 tens and 4 eights on a 74 card submission - are you kidding me?! I've had very good results on two 100 card 84D submissions to date, but breaking it down percentage-wise, my weren't as favorable as yours. And you got some real toughies in there. 176 Lansford, 34 McReynolds in 10, 351 Cooper, and the elusive 482 Fitzgerald are some off the top of my head. I'm sure there are other 1/1's or 1/2's in there as well. Your statement about the 'best of the best' getting it's due from a grading standpoint is valid also. Many times I've thought certain cards on a submission were locks for 10's, and while not always the case, more often times than not that would be the grade given. In submitting those 3 invoices with the varying results, you've quickly witnessed what it takes in general to get a desired grade. Same thing happened to me but my subs were spread out over a much longer period of time. When I look back at the first couple of subs, I see where my grading skills needed refined. Things got better later on. However, that's not to say that all grades given were true indicators. My first resubmitted crackout from my first sub garnered a 10, and it started life as an 8.........
Thanks for your kind words Bill. My first submission of 20 cards also came from that set. Could have been a different grader or just thay I was just a tad hasty to get something off to them. It's been a really cool week though! Ray
By the way; when all my dust clears and I get in all these submissions, I am likely to have some more duplicate 8's, 9's, and 10's listed in my "Fair Trade Winds" set. Anything there is available for trade or sale. If interested, just PM or email at aja4rayb@msn.com. Ray
RVC - Thanks for the kind words. Your set is one to look up to, for sure.
Al - Nice hockey cards (even though they are not in my collection) and let me know if you want to give the 84' Donruss set a boost. I can probably help.
Thanks Ray, I've been keeping any eye on your registry "for Trade" sent....will let everyone know how I do when my submission returns. I have sent a few more hockey in also from 75. I don't collect them either but couldn't pass up the deal and have gotten lucky on them so far. Anyone working on any football that are also working on the 84 Donruss set??? I am working on a 70 and 71 Topps plus a few more. Won't be on long tonight, the Browns Steelers game starts soon and that's where I'll be!!
Picked up 13 more PSA 10's last night from that run of listed cards; mostly at the opening bid of $7.99. Considering grading fees and two way postage and packaging to PSA combined with the likelyhood of pulling a 10 when you finally find a card worthy enough, I find this a very inviting price level. Boy am I going to have a lot of scanning on my hands to get all this recent stuff up and into my set.
"Considering grading fees and two way postage and packaging to PSA combined with the likelyhood of pulling a 10 when you finally find a card worthy enough, I find this a very inviting price level."
Ray, I totally agree....$5.00 to grade a card...figure areound $6-$6.50 by the time it gets back to you....why bother for $1.50 profit?? I know he listed them low, hoping to get better bids...but balance that off with the lost revenues from the 8's and 9's that they get back...and it's a loosing proposition.. Great for the set builders to pick up cards cheap....as long as everyone realizes that $7.99 isn't going to be the new norm for 10's....
The problem facing set builders is, if more people keep doing the same thing....it de-values the whole Registry... If you start to loose $2-$3 a card across a 600 card set...or even worse a 792 card Topps set....it can be disastrous to the final value of your completed set...
But, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then...I say if they're going to give em away...BUT 'EM UP!! Hopefully, it won't be the new trend!!
5stat - Great points. I think that because of the availability of raw material most 80's collectors would rather go the grading route themselves. Of course it is more risky but the built in anticipation, excitement and the element of judging with one's own discerning eye is more entertaining and ultimately more rewarding. I think that's why as collectors we do it (grade ourselves). Part of the lack of action on those 10's can be directly tracked to this. Many of the current Registry folk and even those collecting the set outside the Registry will pass on participating on auctions, even at $7.99, just to put their money aside for the chase of grading themselves.
The key again is RAW CARD AVAILABILITY. Vintage collectors still do this to some extent but know the raw supply of high end raw cards is limited so will bid for stuff on eBay often. That said; low starting eBay prices for vintage product will get more attention and action. That's part of why, in my opinion an SMR $25 PSA 10 1984 Donruss card gets 1 bid at $7.99 and a $25 common in PSA 7,8 from a 50's or 60's set would likely get a lot more action with a starting bid of $7.99. Resale value and corrupt SMR values play a role in this too but I really think 84' Donruss players and those collecting other 80's sets flat out have more fun grading themselves. I know I did. Maybe more fun; period. RayBShotz
Bill - I noticed you have upgraded some PSA 9's with PSA 9's in your set. I really applaude you for keeping at improving your cards. Often 9's from this set can be found with varying degrees of centering and there is definitely a way to differentiate for the best of the two. Can't wait to see your set scanned. You must really have all beauties! Keep at it! RayBShotz
Way to go Ray. I agree with the point being made about set collectors wanting to select and have their own picks graded. It adds to the excitement....sort of the Vegas syndrome I guess....wagering that you will get that elusive "10". My submission went in today. I sent it priority mail so let us see how long it takes for PSA to get them back to me. I sent in a 150 card submission...not all 84 Donruss but there are 54 from the 84 set. I pulled out what I thought were the best 54 cards from the factory set I had and a few from another set I had hand collated years ago. Let the games begin!!
I did send in some DK's and the no number Stenhouse. The darling card was way off center so I didn't bother sending that one in. My hope is to hopefully get a 9 on the Stenhouse and som eof the DK's....there were three STEELE version and the rest were STEEL. Not sure quite yet which are hard to get cards, haven't been doing this long enough. Fellow 84'ers give me a clue so I can see if any of mine are worthy...... I sent a few to Bill so he could try and complete his set but I think only one was worthwhile....I also sent in a Bumbry card which I think I read in one of the messages that it was kind of difficult....
Thanks Softie! I still have trouble believing it myself.
Can't wait till these Registered Mail Boxes show up safely. I should have them waiting for me at weeks end. Should be a lot of fun sorting through this stuff and beginning the labor of love of scanning each one for inclusion on the 84D Registry. These submissions should boost me into the Top Five so I can rub elbows with the guys who have laid all the groundwork on this set.
The second 50% always comes harder than the first half.
I fell asleep last night and let a PSA 10 Reggie on eBay get away from me. The hammer was like $22. Is that cheap or about right for that card? RayBShotz
I've finally had a chance to analyze my 3 submissions versus the POP Report and found the following to be tough or somewhat so, where I scored a PSA 9 or PSA 10. Comments from anyone who has screened large quantities of raw cards might have a better feel for the long term importance of some of these results. One basic assumption, that I think it's fair to make at this point, would be based on the # of cards total graded on a particular card. Low numbers of total graded would indicate to me a lack of quality or centered versions available for submission of that card. The total POP on this set is now such that many of the easier commons have total graded quantities well in excess of 20 cards or thereabouts. When I see total POP on a card less than 10 it indicates to me, at least for now, that it is a card that is being skipped over for submission due to lack of quality examples found within raw material searched.
Here are a short list of the cards I think I did well on. (Of course, with 47 PSa 10's over 119 total cards on three submissions that's an undestatement.). I am showing the POP in this way = PSA9/PSA10/TotalPOP.
Sub#4329091
PSA 9 #136 Mike Scott 5/0/8 PSA 9 #172 Jerry Remy 2/2/5 PSA 9 #185 Garry Templeton 2/3/5 PSA 9 #604 Ed Vande Berg 4/2/6 PSA 9 #621 Mike Young 6/1/8
Sub# 582818
PSA 9 #464 Wayne Tolleson 3/1/5
Sub# 580763
PSA 10 #85 Rick Adams 4/2/7 One of two in PSA 10 PSA 9 #127 Ed Jurak 7/0/10 PSA 9 #176 Carney Lansford 3/1/4 PSA 10 #205 David Von Ohlen 2/2/5 One of two in PSA 10 PSA 10 #214 Bob Shirley 4/2/6 One of two in PSA 10 PSA 10 #277 Butch Davis 4/2/8 One of two in PSA 10 PSA 9 #332 Allan Ramirez 3/1/8 PSA 10 #337 Joe Beckwith 2/2/4 One of two in PSA 10 PSA 10 #345 Chris Codiroli 3/3/7 PSA 10 #346 Rick Behenna 2/4/7 PSA 10 #351 Cecil Cooper 2/2/6 One of two in PSA 10 PSA 10 #387 Fred Breining 6/1/7 One of one in PSA 10 PSA 10 #448 Charlie Hudson 5/3/8 PSA 10 #461 Danny Jackson 4/1/5 One of one in PSA 10 PSA 9 #482 Mike Fitzgerald 1/0/3 One of one in PSA 9 PSA 9 #505 Mark Thurmond 7/0/7 PSA 10 #598 Dave Engle 4/3/9
The POP's may loosen a bit over the coming weeks with the current modern special and some renewed interest in this set. But I'll bet that there are still some cards in here that are most prevalent OC.
Bill, I know you've talked about the Fitzgerald before. I'm thrilled to have pulled the first 9. If memory serves me however, it wasn't perfectly centered. Although all these cards were whistle clean, I seem to remember that Fitzy being slightly OC. I'll try to scan it here when I get it in so we can judge for ourselves if it was deserving.
Al that's right. If you track back to the beginning of this thread you will find that the card is one of the 5 stubborn holdouts Bill needs to complete. The few that I've seen have been brutal. My card came from that high end raw set I got so that collector went through tons of 84' Donruss stuff just to come up with that one example. It was 9 on merits but very close on centering if I remember right.
By the way Al, congratulations! I see you've busted through the 20% barrier with a boatload of new additions yourself. After I get all these cards in I will have some additional 8's, 9's, 10's to add to the trade set. Maybe I can help you along a bit further. It's real nice to have another new guy to climb the ranks with. It's been great fun so far.
Thanks Ray, I hope to be at or near 30% by Christmas. I have to thank Bill for my luck so far with completing the set. He had a bunch of 9's that he made available. I'll be checking out your extra's also. And keeping an eye out for more Fitzgerald cards!!!!
Ray, Gotta say that 47 psa 10's in 119 card total submissions is awesome. You certainly have developed the eye quickly and from now on you should be set to submit with very reasonable expectations, albeit there will be times when you'll scratch your head. Also, you are correct about the low pop commons being usually 'unsubmittable' do to centering problems. Remember to that there are certain cards in factory set 55 card cello 'blocks' that are prone to damage due to being the first card of a certain block - Buddy Bell immediately comes to mind.
Al, Congrats on moving up the ladder. It's been great to have you and Ray on board. As I've told Ray - I'll guarantee the more you get into this set, the more you'll enjoy it!!!
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* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
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* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
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How much will this end up going for?
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This provides you with the element of surprise and also more or less guarantees that you don't get shut out when you try and wait till the last second yourself.
It is also convenient for auctions that end during a time of day or night you can't be in front of your computer.
Give esnipe.com your high bid and go to sleep it does the rest.
They charge a small fee for this, but you don't leave yourself open to getting "run up" when you place your bid early.
In the long run, not getting run up probably more than pays for the fee.
I don't think I missed a thing.
Esnipe requires you to tell RayB in advance anytime you are sniping an 84D card.
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Watch what happens to the Carter psa 10 today for a preview. Check out the auction close date/time. When the auction ends, check out the bids and look at the times at which the top underbidder's bids were placed and compare these to the auction close time.
Nowhere near that number, but you never know.
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Those cards that were previously hardly looked at now have three or four solid bidders per. Oh well, I'm not that far off from completion....plus, I should be looking at only completing and not upgrading, right?
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Yep, that's the guyI recall - kkpkrk. I wouldn't be surprized if his snipe was in the $375 range. He seems to be in the mode of buying every carter 10 on the planet. Sorta reminds me of 'godswork' with respect to 1980 rickey henderson psa 9's.
Arny,
Are you getting back up to speed at home? Hope all goes well and you're back on track in no time.
I start my new job tomorrow (finally!
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Maybe I'll lowball snipe on ones I'd like to upgrade. Sandberg is already out of my range. How 'bout you guys?
Is the Sandberg a tough one? I submitted one but not sure if it will even 9 on centering.
Ray
Not sure if it was mentioned. You can get 5 free snipes per week at Just snipe.
for a few bucks you can get unlimited.
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Steve
My dupes
Thanks.
Ray
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Any similar or non-similar experiences will justify my cause better.
Julen
RIP GURU
Nice Eck 9.........another cool pic in the 84D set. Hair a-flyin -- ball a-com'n....... doesn't get any better than that.
Julen,
I think these cards in wax/rak/factory are just like all the others from Topps/Donruss/Fleer. It all seems like a crap shoot. If you find a box from the right case, they all may be nice. Just depends. Some of the more serious collectors will monitor case numbers to determine to buy or not. Problem is, when's the last time you saw a 84D wax case for sale or break.......it's been awhile for me.
Here's the results:
PSA Order Status for Submission # 4329091
LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 12406346 1984 DONRUSS 73 GEORGE BELL N/A 10
2 12406347 1984 DONRUSS 116 TOM SEAVER N/A 8
3 12406348 1984 DONRUSS 136 MIKE SCOTT N/A 9
4 12406349 1984 DONRUSS 172 JERRY REMY N/A 9
5 12406350 1984 DONRUSS 185 GARRY TEMPLETON N/A 9
6 12406351 1984 DONRUSS 210 AL BUMBRY N/A 8
7 12406352 1984 DONRUSS 236 ATLEE HAMMAKER N/A 8
8 12406353 1984 DONRUSS 252 CESAR GERONIMO N/A 9
9 12406354 1984 DONRUSS 274 LOU PINIELLA N/A 8
10 12406355 1984 DONRUSS 302 CARLTON FISK N/A 9
11 12406356 1984 DONRUSS 303 DARRELL PORTER N/A 9
12 12406357 1984 DONRUSS 304 DICKIE THON N/A 9
13 12406358 1984 DONRUSS 393 TOM CANDIOTTI N/A 9
14 12406359 1984 DONRUSS 518 GRAIG NETTLES N/A 9
15 12406360 1984 DONRUSS 525 GEORGE WRIGHT N/A 9
16 12406361 1984 DONRUSS 534 BRUCE SUTTER N/A 9
17 12406362 1984 DONRUSS 539 ALAN ASHBY N/A 8
18 12406363 1984 DONRUSS 604 ED VANDE BERG N/A 9
19 12406364 1984 DONRUSS 621 MIKE YOUNG N/A 9
20 12406365 1984 DONRUSS 644 BOB STANLEY N/A 9
The sceond batch is highly anticipated yet because it is the monster 74 card submission from the same high end raw set. I tried to be even more disciminating about those. Not yet received grades.
The third batch (25 cards) was an unqualified disaster. This batch was cards pulled from a FACTORY SET I bought. Some of the cards appeared to be a bit small but PSA as you'll see has graded them all without question. I wonder to myself if that is where those 5's and 6's came from. These cards appeared to be MINT as submitted. A few of the star cards had slight centering issues which I decided to send and give a shot anyway but I really can't explain the harsh treatment on these. (Grader of Death?)
PSA Order Status for Submission # 582818
LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 12408452 1984 DONRUSS 47 EDDIE MURRAY N/A 8
2 12408453 1984 DONRUSS 112 TERRY KENNEDY N/A 9
3 12408454 1984 DONRUSS 144 GARY WOODS N/A 8
4 12408455 1984 DONRUSS 151 WADE BOGGS N/A 8
5 12408456 1984 DONRUSS 173 RON GUIDRY N/A 7
6 12408457 1984 DONRUSS 288 DAVE PARKER N/A 9
7 12408458 1984 DONRUSS 295 SHANE RAWLEY N/A 9
8 12408459 1984 DONRUSS 297 HAL McRAE N/A 9
9 12408460 1984 DONRUSS 311 RYNE SANDBERG N/A 9
10 12408461 1984 DONRUSS 313 SPIKE OWEN N/A 9
11 12408462 1984 DONRUSS 324 TONY GWYNN N/A 8
12 12408463 1984 DONRUSS 330 MARC HILL N/A 9
13 12408464 1984 DONRUSS 341 SCOTT SANDERSON N/A 5
14 12408465 1984 DONRUSS 347 ANDRE ROBERTSON N/A 8
15 12408466 1984 DONRUSS 352 ROD CAREW N/A 5
16 12408467 1984 DONRUSS 355 JOE MORGAN N/A 6
17 12408468 1984 DONRUSS 464 WAYNE TOLLESON N/A 9
18 12408469 1984 DONRUSS 500 BOB JOHNSON N/A 9
19 12408470 1984 DONRUSS 508 MARVELL WYNNE N/A 8
20 12408471 1984 DONRUSS 513 RANDY BUSH N/A 9
21 12408472 1984 DONRUSS 516 AURELIO LOPEZ N/A 9
22 12408473 1984 DONRUSS 607 HUBIE BROOKS N/A 8
23 12408474 1984 DONRUSS 639 DENNIS ECKERSLEY N/A 9
24 12408475 1984 DONRUSS 204 AL HOLLAND N/A 8
25 12408476 1984 DONRUSS 202 TIM FLANNERY N/A 8
Date Received: 11/08/2005
Date of Grades Posted: 11/10/2005
At least I picked up a Sandberg and an Eckersley in 9.
I expect the 74 card submission to do much better. Stay tuned.
RayBShotz
I received 9's on:
136 Scott
172 Remy
185 Templeton
464 Tolleson
604 Vandeberg
I can't say for sure that these 5 cards are necessarily tough yet (Bill, you may have a better feel) for centering but total POP numbers are quite low on these few.
Anybody with any experience with these cards specifically?
Final note: PSA graded both of these under the November Special in two days. Makes you wonder why anyone would pay more for faster service if a special grades this quickly.
Ray
I'll comment more on your subs when I get more time, but I can tell you that the Remy was hardest of those 5 for me. PSA's turn-around time for me has been similar - just a few days.
I would say I did a bit better on this one!!
I knew this high end raw set was solid when I bought it and that these 74 cards were the best of the best of it. This is, flat out, astonishing however. I am really pleased.This has renewed my faith that if you give a perfect card to PSA, that it deserves and will recieve a PSA 10 if the merits are there.
Just take a look at this run.
PSA Order Status for Submission # 580763
LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 12408371 1984 DONRUSS 34 KEVIN McREYNOLDS N/A 10
2 12408372 1984 DONRUSS 36 BRAD KOMMINSK N/A 9
3 12408373 1984 DONRUSS 37 TIM TEUFEL N/A 10
4 12408374 1984 DONRUSS 42 MIKE BROWN N/A 8
5 12408375 1984 DONRUSS 44 SID FERNANDEZ N/A 9
6 12408376 1984 DONRUSS 71 DAVE STIEB N/A 10
7 12408377 1984 DONRUSS 61 PETE ROSE N/A 9
8 12408378 1984 DONRUSS 51 DAVE WINFIELD N/A 10
9 12408379 1984 DONRUSS 74 JOHN MOSES N/A 8
10 12408380 1984 DONRUSS 80 KURT BEVACQUA N/A 10
11 12408381 1984 DONRUSS 85 RICK ADAMS N/A 10
12 12408382 1984 DONRUSS 95 ONIX CONCEPCION N/A 10
13 12408383 1984 DONRUSS 123 MIKE BODDICKER N/A 9
14 12408384 1984 DONRUSS 124 PETE LADD N/A 9
15 12408385 1984 DONRUSS 127 ED JURAK N/A 9
16 12408386 1984 DONRUSS 129 BERT BLYLEVEN N/A 10
17 12408387 1984 DONRUSS 131 GORMAN HEIMUELLER N/A 10
18 12408388 1984 DONRUSS 132 DAN SCHATZEDER N/A 10
19 12408389 1984 DONRUSS 137 BO DIAZ N/A 10
20 12408390 1984 DONRUSS 138 GLENN BRUMMER N/A 10
21 12408391 1984 DONRUSS 142 BRIAN HARPER N/A 10
22 12408392 1984 DONRUSS 143 JOHN RABB N/A 10
23 12408393 1984 DONRUSS 150 JOHN WOCKENFUSS N/A 9
24 12408394 1984 DONRUSS 154 ALAN BANNISTER N/A 10
25 12408395 1984 DONRUSS 176 CARNEY LANSFORD N/A 9
26 12408396 1984 DONRUSS 203 BILL SCHERRER N/A 9
27 12408397 1984 DONRUSS 205 DAVID VON OHLEN N/A 10
28 12408398 1984 DONRUSS 212 HOWARD BAILEY N/A 10
29 12408399 1984 DONRUSS 214 BOB SHIRLEY N/A 10
30 12408400 1984 DONRUSS 225 ROY SMALLEY N/A 9
31 12408401 1984 DONRUSS 245 TIM STODDARD N/A 10
32 12408402 1984 DONRUSS 248 DON MATTINGLY N/A 8
33 12408403 1984 DONRUSS 251 TOBY HARRAH N/A 10
34 12408404 1984 DONRUSS 254 DOUG FLYNN N/A 9
35 12408405 1984 DONRUSS 255 ANDY HASSLER N/A 9
36 12408406 1984 DONRUSS 265 BRAD WELLMAN N/A 10
37 12408407 1984 DONRUSS 276 BROD PERKINS N/A 8
38 12408408 1984 DONRUSS 277 BUTCH DAVIS N/A 10
39 12408409 1984 DONRUSS 289 LEE SMITH N/A 9
40 12408410 1984 DONRUSS 328 BILL DAWLEY N/A 10
41 12408411 1984 DONRUSS 330 MARC HILL N/A 10
42 12408412 1984 DONRUSS 332 ALLAN RAMIREZ N/A 9
43 12408413 1984 DONRUSS 337 JOE BECKWITH N/A 10
44 12408414 1984 DONRUSS 345 CHRIS CODIROLI N/A 10
45 12408415 1984 DONRUSS 346 RICK BEHENNA N/A 10
46 12408416 1984 DONRUSS 351 CECIL COOPER N/A 10
47 12408417 1984 DONRUSS 355 JOE MORGAN N/A 10
48 12408418 1984 DONRUSS 361 RON CEY N/A 9
49 12408419 1984 DONRUSS 377 STEVE LUBRATICH N/A 10
50 12408420 1984 DONRUSS 378 JON MATLACK N/A 10
51 12408421 1984 DONRUSS 383 DOUG GWOSDZ N/A 9
52 12408422 1984 DONRUSS 386 MILT MAY N/A 10
53 12408423 1984 DONRUSS 387 FRED BREINING N/A 10
54 12408424 1984 DONRUSS 388 CRAIG LEFFERTS N/A 10
55 12408425 1984 DONRUSS 392 GARY ROENICKE N/A 10
56 12408426 1984 DONRUSS 408 DANN BILARDELLO N/A 10
57 12408427 1984 DONRUSS 423 BRIAN DOWNING N/A 10
58 12408428 1984 DONRUSS 430 DALE BERRA N/A 9
59 12408429 1984 DONRUSS 444 MIKE EASLER N/A 9
60 12408430 1984 DONRUSS 445 RENIE MARTIN N/A 10
61 12408431 1984 DONRUSS 448 CHARLIE HUDSON N/A 10
62 12408432 1984 DONRUSS 457 DENNIS OIL CAN BOYD N/A 10
63 12408433 1984 DONRUSS 461 DANNY JACKSON N/A 10
64 12408434 1984 DONRUSS 469 STEVE KEMP N/A 10
65 12408435 1984 DONRUSS 482 MIKE FITZGERALD N/A 9
66 12408436 1984 DONRUSS 484 RON ROENICKE N/A 10
67 12408437 1984 DONRUSS 505 MARK THURMOND N/A 9
68 12408438 1984 DONRUSS 520 GERRY WILLARD N/A 9
69 12408439 1984 DONRUSS 522 TOM BURGMEIER N/A 9
70 12408440 1984 DONRUSS 531 JERRY ROYSTER N/A 9
71 12408441 1984 DONRUSS 583 DAN QUISENBERRY N/A 10
72 12408442 1984 DONRUSS 598 DAVE ENGLE N/A 10
73 12408443 1984 DONRUSS 611 MARK CLEAR N/A 10
74 12408444 1984 DONRUSS 617 JOEY McLAUGHLIN N/A 9
Date Received: 11/08/2005
Date of Grades Posted: 11/11/2005
Date Shipped: No Date Specified
As an afterthought I stuck that one Mattingly card that I pulled from the Factory set in the middle of this lot. They found it for the PSA 8 it was. Perfect and clean it just did'nt have PSA 9 centering.
This last couple of weeks grading these and submitting has been the most fun I've had with PSA and set building in a real long time. Thanks guys for the push.
Ray
alnav- great to have you aboard- i love those hockey cards. where did you get those sharp '75's? i'm interested in the clarke, lmk what you are looking for or when you post on ebay. thanks
The set has been sold.
David
Those are cool hockey cards; nicely centered with great color................
Ray,
Those results on the 74 card submission are fantastic, to say the least. 46 tens and 4 eights on a 74 card submission - are you kidding me?!
I've had very good results on two 100 card 84D submissions to date, but breaking it down percentage-wise, my weren't as favorable as yours.
And you got some real toughies in there. 176 Lansford, 34 McReynolds in 10, 351 Cooper, and the elusive 482 Fitzgerald are some off the top of my head. I'm sure there are other 1/1's or 1/2's in there as well.
Your statement about the 'best of the best' getting it's due from a grading standpoint is valid also. Many times I've thought certain cards on a submission were locks for 10's, and while not always the case, more often times than not that would be the grade given.
In submitting those 3 invoices with the varying results, you've quickly witnessed what it takes in general to get a desired grade. Same thing happened to me but my subs were spread out over a much longer period of time. When I look back at the first couple of subs, I see where my grading skills needed refined. Things got better later on. However, that's not to say that all grades given were true indicators. My first resubmitted crackout from my first sub garnered a 10, and it started life as an 8.........
My first submission of 20 cards also came from that set. Could have been a different grader or just thay I was just a tad hasty to get something off to them.
It's been a really cool week though!
Ray
If interested, just PM or email at aja4rayb@msn.com.
Ray
RVC - Thanks for the kind words. Your set is one to look up to, for sure.
Al - Nice hockey cards (even though they are not in my collection) and let me know if you want to give the 84' Donruss set a boost. I can probably help.
RayBShotz
Boy am I going to have a lot of scanning on my hands to get all this recent stuff up and into my set.
Anybody else snag any of those?
RayBShotz
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Ray, I totally agree....$5.00 to grade a card...figure areound $6-$6.50 by the time it gets back to you....why bother for $1.50 profit?? I know he listed them low, hoping to get better bids...but balance that off with the lost revenues from the 8's and 9's that they get back...and it's a loosing proposition..
Great for the set builders to pick up cards cheap....as long as everyone realizes that $7.99 isn't going to be the new norm for 10's....
The problem facing set builders is, if more people keep doing the same thing....it de-values the whole Registry...
If you start to loose $2-$3 a card across a 600 card set...or even worse a 792 card Topps set....it can be disastrous to the final value of your completed set...
But, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then...I say if they're going to give em away...BUT 'EM UP!!
Hopefully, it won't be the new trend!!
I think that because of the availability of raw material most 80's collectors would rather go the grading route themselves. Of course it is more risky but the built in anticipation, excitement and the element of judging with one's own discerning eye is more entertaining and ultimately more rewarding. I think that's why as collectors we do it (grade ourselves).
Part of the lack of action on those 10's can be directly tracked to this. Many of the current Registry folk and even those collecting the set outside the Registry will pass on participating on auctions, even at $7.99, just to put their money aside for the chase of grading themselves.
The key again is RAW CARD AVAILABILITY. Vintage collectors still do this to some extent but know the raw supply of high end raw cards is limited so will bid for stuff on eBay often. That said; low starting eBay prices for vintage product will get more attention and action. That's part of why, in my opinion an SMR $25 PSA 10 1984 Donruss card gets 1 bid at $7.99 and a $25 common in PSA 7,8 from a 50's or 60's set would likely get a lot more action with a starting bid of $7.99.
Resale value and corrupt SMR values play a role in this too but I really think 84' Donruss players and those collecting other 80's sets flat out have more fun grading themselves. I know I did.
Maybe more fun; period.
RayBShotz
Can't wait to see your set scanned. You must really have all beauties!
Keep at it!
RayBShotz
Good luck on your submission. Waiting for the grades to pop is the best.
Any stars from the set with a chance to 9 or better? Tough cards?
Ray
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
Can't wait till these Registered Mail Boxes show up safely. I should have them waiting for me at weeks end.
Should be a lot of fun sorting through this stuff and beginning the labor of love of scanning each one for inclusion on the 84D Registry. These submissions should boost me into the Top Five so I can rub elbows with the guys who have laid all the groundwork on this set.
The second 50% always comes harder than the first half.
I fell asleep last night and let a PSA 10 Reggie on eBay get away from me. The hammer was like $22. Is that cheap or about right for that card?
RayBShotz
the jackson was on the cheap side of 'about right'
One basic assumption, that I think it's fair to make at this point, would be based on the # of cards total graded on a particular card. Low numbers of total graded would indicate to me a lack of quality or centered versions available for submission of that card. The total POP on this set is now such that many of the easier commons have total graded quantities well in excess of 20 cards or thereabouts. When I see total POP on a card less than 10 it indicates to me, at least for now, that it is a card that is being skipped over for submission due to lack of quality examples found within raw material searched.
Here are a short list of the cards I think I did well on. (Of course, with 47 PSa 10's over 119 total cards on three submissions that's an undestatement.). I am showing the POP in this way = PSA9/PSA10/TotalPOP.
Sub#4329091
PSA 9 #136 Mike Scott 5/0/8
PSA 9 #172 Jerry Remy 2/2/5
PSA 9 #185 Garry Templeton 2/3/5
PSA 9 #604 Ed Vande Berg 4/2/6
PSA 9 #621 Mike Young 6/1/8
Sub# 582818
PSA 9 #464 Wayne Tolleson 3/1/5
Sub# 580763
PSA 10 #85 Rick Adams 4/2/7 One of two in PSA 10
PSA 9 #127 Ed Jurak 7/0/10
PSA 9 #176 Carney Lansford 3/1/4
PSA 10 #205 David Von Ohlen 2/2/5 One of two in PSA 10
PSA 10 #214 Bob Shirley 4/2/6 One of two in PSA 10
PSA 10 #277 Butch Davis 4/2/8 One of two in PSA 10
PSA 9 #332 Allan Ramirez 3/1/8
PSA 10 #337 Joe Beckwith 2/2/4 One of two in PSA 10
PSA 10 #345 Chris Codiroli 3/3/7
PSA 10 #346 Rick Behenna 2/4/7
PSA 10 #351 Cecil Cooper 2/2/6 One of two in PSA 10
PSA 10 #387 Fred Breining 6/1/7 One of one in PSA 10
PSA 10 #448 Charlie Hudson 5/3/8
PSA 10 #461 Danny Jackson 4/1/5 One of one in PSA 10
PSA 9 #482 Mike Fitzgerald 1/0/3 One of one in PSA 9
PSA 9 #505 Mark Thurmond 7/0/7
PSA 10 #598 Dave Engle 4/3/9
The POP's may loosen a bit over the coming weeks with the current modern special and some renewed interest in this set. But I'll bet that there are still some cards in here that are most prevalent OC.
Bill, I know you've talked about the Fitzgerald before. I'm thrilled to have pulled the first 9. If memory serves me however, it wasn't perfectly centered. Although all these cards were whistle clean, I seem to remember that Fitzy being slightly OC. I'll try to scan it here when I get it in so we can judge for ourselves if it was deserving.
Feel free to comment.
RayBShotz
By the way Al, congratulations! I see you've busted through the 20% barrier with a boatload of new additions yourself. After I get all these cards in I will have some additional 8's, 9's, 10's to add to the trade set. Maybe I can help you along a bit further. It's real nice to have another new guy to climb the ranks with. It's been great fun so far.
Ray
Gotta say that 47 psa 10's in 119 card total submissions is awesome. You certainly have developed the eye quickly and from now on you should be set to submit with very reasonable expectations, albeit there will be times when you'll scratch your head.
Also, you are correct about the low pop commons being usually 'unsubmittable' do to centering problems. Remember to that there are certain cards in factory set 55 card cello 'blocks' that are prone to damage due to being the first card of a certain block - Buddy Bell immediately comes to mind.
Al,
Congrats on moving up the ladder. It's been great to have you and Ray on board. As I've told Ray - I'll guarantee the more you get into this set, the more you'll enjoy it!!!
Bill