i've been gambling so long that i have a little voice in my head that speaks to me sometimes. when Sirianni got cute on the first drive and bypassed an easy 3, the little voice said he's gonna pay for that. then when Saquon Barkley dropped the easiest pass of his life to effectively end the game, the little voice spoke again and said you're about to lose your bet. and it happened. true to what he had been doing all game long, Vic Fangio refused to dial up pressure on Cousins by sending more than 4 and Atlanta blew down the field and scored like Philly had 8 guys on defense. i simply can't believe that guy refused to blitz when Cousins had had an eternity to throw all game long. just horrific coaching.
that's how you give away a game you had won, and that's how you lose a bet you had won
@galaxy27 said:
i've been gambling so long that i have a little voice in my head that speaks to me sometimes. when Sirianni got cute on the first drive and bypassed an easy 3, the little voice said he's gonna pay for that. then when Saquon Barkley dropped the easiest pass of his life to effectively end the game, the little voice spoke again and said you're about to lose your bet. and it happened. true to what he had been doing all game long, Vic Fangio refused to dial up pressure on Cousins by sending more than 4 and Atlanta blew down the field and scored like Philly had 8 guys on defense. i simply can't believe that guy refused to blitz when Cousins had had an eternity to throw all game long. just horrific coaching.
that's how you give away a game you had won, and that's how you lose a bet you had won
Whenever an illustration of a sports nightmare for an Eagles fan is needed, just point to this game.
I should have just placed my finger in an electrical outlet and kept it there for a while, less painful.
Some of these look like a license to print money. But what do I know? My Tyreek call died like a pig.
Every single one of those prop bets hit, except for the first one. Barkley had a TD run called back because he wasn't quite over the goal line. He came close on some other plays as well.
And of course Barkley drops a game winning pass that a pee-wee football league player doesn't drop. Might have been a touchdown. When that ball was in the air, an Eagles bettor had that money spent. Even after the drop, an Eagles win still seemed like a sure thing. Then the Eagles defense and hiss poor coaching snatched away the winning money like a thief in the night.
@galaxy27 said:
just want to remind everyone here that if Saquon Barkley had simply caught this football, my roll would be $706 healthier
i felt the need to make this post for proper closure
now it's behind me
I watch the replay and as the ball is in the air, I still think he's making the catch. 😖
I would hate to have been in a Philly sports bar at that particular time right after the game. Some things may have been broken. And I doubt if management would have said a word. Just tip the staff to clean it up. I might have been one of those tipping the staff.
@galaxy27 said:
i've been gambling so long that i have a little voice in my head that speaks to me sometimes. when Sirianni got cute on the first drive and bypassed an easy 3, the little voice said he's gonna pay for that. then when Saquon Barkley dropped the easiest pass of his life to effectively end the game, the little voice spoke again and said you're about to lose your bet. and it happened. true to what he had been doing all game long, Vic Fangio refused to dial up pressure on Cousins by sending more than 4 and Atlanta blew down the field and scored like Philly had 8 guys on defense. i simply can't believe that guy refused to blitz when Cousins had had an eternity to throw all game long. just horrific coaching.
that's how you give away a game you had won, and that's how you lose a bet you had won
We were talking about this at work after week 1 the entire NFL world including the fan base saw that Cousins was t comfortable back there and going into week 2 you would have to be a complete buffoon to not want to send your D on him
It's just gross from top to bottom, I'm literally almost at the point of not even betting on the outcome of these games and just stuck to prop. bests.
You have to beat the opposing Team
You have to beat the refs
You have to beat the stupid plays by the
players on the team your betting on
You have to beat the Coach of the team
your betting on to not outsmart himself
@galaxy27 said:
i've been gambling so long that i have a little voice in my head that speaks to me sometimes. when Sirianni got cute on the first drive and bypassed an easy 3, the little voice said he's gonna pay for that. then when Saquon Barkley dropped the easiest pass of his life to effectively end the game, the little voice spoke again and said you're about to lose your bet. and it happened. true to what he had been doing all game long, Vic Fangio refused to dial up pressure on Cousins by sending more than 4 and Atlanta blew down the field and scored like Philly had 8 guys on defense. i simply can't believe that guy refused to blitz when Cousins had had an eternity to throw all game long. just horrific coaching.
that's how you give away a game you had won, and that's how you lose a bet you had won
We were talking about this at work after week 1 the entire NFL world including the fan base saw that Cousins was t comfortable back there and going into week 2 you would have to be a complete buffoon to not want to send your D on him
It's just gross from top to bottom, I'm literally almost at the point of not even betting on the outcome of these games and just stuck to prop. bests.
You have to beat the opposing Team
You have to beat the refs
You have to beat the stupid plays by the
players on the team your betting on
You have to beat the Coach of the team
your betting on to not outsmart himself
Am I missing anything?
forget the money aspect, this is the objective side of me coming out as a football fan.
as i analyze that game, i can't help but wonder how a guy like Nick Sirianni has an HC job. we all saw what his team did the last half of last season. they wilted like a flower and he had no answers. i heard a stat today that when an NFL team has the lead in the final two minutes, they win 90% of the time. when Philly has the lead in the final two minutes, they win 40% of the time. that sounds outrageous but even if it's remotely true, that speaks to the type of coach he is. snatching defeat from the jaws of victory far too often with him at the helm.
the first drive of the game the Eagles stalled near the goal line and on 4th and 4 he goes for it instead of putting points on the board and taking the lead. i thought to myself, what the fuck is he doing. generally speaking, you don't pull unwarranted moves like that without paying the price at some point down the line. lo and behold, they could have used that 3 at the end of the game.
now let's analyze their last drive. Saquon Barkley should have caught the ball, clearly. if he does, the game is over. but a part of me is wondering why Sirianni was dialing up a pass play on 3rd and short with less than 2 minutes to begin with. why the added risk of an incompletion to stop the clock? if he runs the ball, worst case scenario they burn it down under a minute. best case, and this is a very conceivable case, Saquon either gets the 1st to end the game or comes very close. mind you, the Eagles had rushed for almost 200 yards on the night. let's say he doesn't get it but gets close. guess what the Eagles do better than any other team in the league? and if for some reason the Falcons were able to stop them on two consecutive downs running the ball, then they are a mile away with under a minute left down three. what are they gonna do? they're going to drive for the game-tying FG, which -- worst-case scenario -- means overtime. it just seems like a sensible, clear-minded approach on the first and last drives all but guaranteed a victory.
instead it was incomplete pass, stop the clock, kick a FG, and Atlanta had almost two minutes at their disposal to go win the game. which they did, because......
......please don't get me started on Vic Fangio. he pisses me off the most. it was clear to anyone of sound mind that Cousins had limited mobility. it was talked about in the telecast. it was also mentioned that Fangio rarely blitzes. i don't know what you guys saw during that game, but i witnessed 4 quarters of the Eagles' front 4 being stonewalled at the line of scrimmage and the DC refusing to make adjustments, thereby giving a gimpy QB time to set up shop in the pocket. i thought to myself, surely, surely he's going to come to his senses and send a linebacker or two to put some heat on Cousins. i don't care how immobile he is or how much he sucks -- give any professional quarterback enough time and they will carve you up. gee, what happened on that final drive? Fangio refused to blitz and Cousins blew the Falcons down the field and scored in about 60 seconds. zero pass rush, Falcon receivers WIDE open all the way down the field.
if i'm an Eagles fan naturally i'm not happy with Barkley today, but i could not be more disgusted with the coaching staff. those guys are paid to put their players in the best possible position to win, and Sirianni and Fangio did anything but last night and no one can convince me otherwise
@galaxy27 said:
i've been gambling so long that i have a little voice in my head that speaks to me sometimes. when Sirianni got cute on the first drive and bypassed an easy 3, the little voice said he's gonna pay for that. then when Saquon Barkley dropped the easiest pass of his life to effectively end the game, the little voice spoke again and said you're about to lose your bet. and it happened. true to what he had been doing all game long, Vic Fangio refused to dial up pressure on Cousins by sending more than 4 and Atlanta blew down the field and scored like Philly had 8 guys on defense. i simply can't believe that guy refused to blitz when Cousins had had an eternity to throw all game long. just horrific coaching.
that's how you give away a game you had won, and that's how you lose a bet you had won
We were talking about this at work after week 1 the entire NFL world including the fan base saw that Cousins was t comfortable back there and going into week 2 you would have to be a complete buffoon to not want to send your D on him
It's just gross from top to bottom, I'm literally almost at the point of not even betting on the outcome of these games and just stuck to prop. bests.
You have to beat the opposing Team
You have to beat the refs
You have to beat the stupid plays by the
players on the team your betting on
You have to beat the Coach of the team
your betting on to not outsmart himself
Am I missing anything?
forget the money aspect, this is the objective side of me coming out as a football fan.
as i analyze that game, i can't help but wonder how a guy like Nick Sirianni has an HC job. we all saw what his team did the last half of last season. they wilted like a flower and he had no answers. i heard a stat today that when an NFL team has the lead in the final two minutes, they win 90% of the time. when Philly has the lead in the final two minutes, they win 40% of the time. that sounds outrageous but even if it's remotely true, that speaks to the type of coach he is. snatching defeat from the jaws of victory far too often with him at the helm.
the first drive of the game the Eagles stalled near the goal line and on 4th and 4 he goes for it instead of putting points on the board and taking the lead. i thought to myself, what the fuck is he doing. generally speaking, you don't pull unwarranted moves like that without paying the price at some point down the line. lo and behold, they could have used that 3 at the end of the game.
now let's analyze their last drive. Saquon Barkley should have caught the ball, clearly. if he does, the game is over. but a part of me is wondering why Sirianni was dialing up a pass play on 3rd and short with less than 2 minutes to begin with. why the added risk of an incompletion to stop the clock? if he runs the ball, worst case scenario they burn it down under a minute. best case, and this is a very conceivable case, Saquon either gets the 1st to end the game or comes very close. mind you, the Eagles had rushed for almost 200 yards on the night. let's say he doesn't get it but gets close. guess what the Eagles do better than any other team in the league? and if for some reason the Falcons were able to stop them on two consecutive downs running the ball, then they are a mile away with under a minute left down three. what are they gonna do? they're going to drive for the game-timing FG, which -- worst-case scenario -- means overtime. it just seems like a sensible, clear-minded approach on the first and last drives all but guaranteed a victory.
instead it was incomplete pass, stop the clock, kick a FG, and Atlanta had almost two minutes at their disposal to go win the game. which they did, because......
......please don't get me started on Vic Fangio. he pisses me off the most. it was clear to anyone of sound mind that Cousins had limited mobility. it was talked about in the telecast. it was also mentioned that Fangio rarely blitzes. i don't know what you guys saw during that game, but i witnessed 4 quarters of the Eagles' front 4 being stonewalled at the line of scrimmage and the DC refusing to make adjustments, thereby giving a gimpy QB time to set up shop in the pocket. i thought to myself, surely, surely he's going to come to his senses and send a linebacker or two to put some heat on Cousins. i don't care how immobile he is or how much he sucks -- give any professional quarterback enough time and they will carve you up. gee, what happened on that final drive? Fangio refused to blitz and Cousins blew the Falcons down the field and scored in about 60 seconds. zero pass rush, Falcon receivers WIDE open all the way down the field.
if i'm an Eagles fan naturally i'm not happy with Barkley today, but i could not be more disgusted with the coaching staff. those guys are paid to put their players in the best possible position to win, and Sirianni and Fangio did anything but last night and no one can convince me otherwise
@galaxy27 said:
i've been gambling so long that i have a little voice in my head that speaks to me sometimes. when Sirianni got cute on the first drive and bypassed an easy 3, the little voice said he's gonna pay for that. then when Saquon Barkley dropped the easiest pass of his life to effectively end the game, the little voice spoke again and said you're about to lose your bet. and it happened. true to what he had been doing all game long, Vic Fangio refused to dial up pressure on Cousins by sending more than 4 and Atlanta blew down the field and scored like Philly had 8 guys on defense. i simply can't believe that guy refused to blitz when Cousins had had an eternity to throw all game long. just horrific coaching.
that's how you give away a game you had won, and that's how you lose a bet you had won
We were talking about this at work after week 1 the entire NFL world including the fan base saw that Cousins was t comfortable back there and going into week 2 you would have to be a complete buffoon to not want to send your D on him
It's just gross from top to bottom, I'm literally almost at the point of not even betting on the outcome of these games and just stuck to prop. bests.
You have to beat the opposing Team
You have to beat the refs
You have to beat the stupid plays by the
players on the team your betting on
You have to beat the Coach of the team
your betting on to not outsmart himself
Am I missing anything?
forget the money aspect, this is the objective side of me coming out as a football fan.
as i analyze that game, i can't help but wonder how a guy like Nick Sirianni has an HC job. we all saw what his team did the last half of last season. they wilted like a flower and he had no answers. i heard a stat today that when an NFL team has the lead in the final two minutes, they win 90% of the time. when Philly has the lead in the final two minutes, they win 40% of the time. that sounds outrageous but even if it's remotely true, that speaks to the type of coach he is. snatching defeat from the jaws of victory far too often with him at the helm.
the first drive of the game the Eagles stalled near the goal line and on 4th and 4 he goes for it instead of putting points on the board and taking the lead. i thought to myself, what the fuck is he doing. generally speaking, you don't pull unwarranted moves like that without paying the price at some point down the line. lo and behold, they could have used that 3 at the end of the game.
now let's analyze their last drive. Saquon Barkley should have caught the ball, clearly. if he does, the game is over. but a part of me is wondering why Sirianni was dialing up a pass play on 3rd and short with less than 2 minutes to begin with. why the added risk of an incompletion to stop the clock? if he runs the ball, worst case scenario they burn it down under a minute. best case, and this is a very conceivable case, Saquon either gets the 1st to end the game or comes very close. mind you, the Eagles had rushed for almost 200 yards on the night. let's say he doesn't get it but gets close. guess what the Eagles do better than any other team in the league? and if for some reason the Falcons were able to stop them on two consecutive downs running the ball, then they are a mile away with under a minute left down three. what are they gonna do? they're going to drive for the game-timing FG, which -- worst-case scenario -- means overtime. it just seems like a sensible, clear-minded approach on the first and last drives all but guaranteed a victory.
instead it was incomplete pass, stop the clock, kick a FG, and Atlanta had almost two minutes at their disposal to go win the game. which they did, because......
......please don't get me started on Vic Fangio. he pisses me off the most. it was clear to anyone of sound mind that Cousins had limited mobility. it was talked about in the telecast. it was also mentioned that Fangio rarely blitzes. i don't know what you guys saw during that game, but i witnessed 4 quarters of the Eagles' front 4 being stonewalled at the line of scrimmage and the DC refusing to make adjustments, thereby giving a gimpy QB time to set up shop in the pocket. i thought to myself, surely, surely he's going to come to his senses and send a linebacker or two to put some heat on Cousins. i don't care how immobile he is or how much he sucks -- give any professional quarterback enough time and they will carve you up. gee, what happened on that final drive? Fangio refused to blitz and Cousins blew the Falcons down the field and scored in about 60 seconds. zero pass rush, Falcon receivers WIDE open all the way down the field.
if i'm an Eagles fan naturally i'm not happy with Barkley today, but i could not be more disgusted with the coaching staff. those guys are paid to put their players in the best possible position to win, and Sirianni and Fangio did anything but last night and no one can convince me otherwise
feel free to disagree with me
Can't disagree at all - excellent analysis!
Two quick things, the first if nobody believes me, that's okay. During the Eagles first game this season, I can hardly believe myself this happened, but the human brain can be a crazy thing. I wasn't happy with Sirianni in that first game either, and especially after the collapse of last season left a bad taste in my mouth about Sirianni. But long story short, I'm not joking, I know that nobody sees this coming, a voice from deep down inside the primordial part of my brain suddenly wondered what the Eagles would be like with Belichick coaching instead of Sirianni? Then my more advanced evolution part of my brain thought that might be a good idea. Frankly, and I'd pass a polygraph test on this, I wouldn't mind at all if that happened, Belichick coaching the Eagles, and I'm getting to the point whereby I'd actually like to see it happen, Even though I realize the possibility probably doesn't exist.
Second thing as Lombardi preached and so did others before him. Play to your strengths until the other team stops you. That is fundamentally sound football 101. Sirianni for some inexplicable reason doesn't seem to believe in that often enough. He tries to get too cute out there. Then he winds up outsmarting himself. Well he just might outsmart himself out of a job.
I've been following football for a long time. I'm not going to pretend I could be a head coach. However if ya fully understand the game, and know the team players, based on the situation during the game, it's not that hard to accurately predict the play call ahead of time before each snap. I'm right most of the time with an occasional surprise of a play call that fools me. However with Nick Sirianni, he absolutely baffles me a number of times during a game and he seems to baffle himself.
This is a perfect example of a degenerate gambler type of bet but let me explain, I was offered a free bet if I make any bet on WNBA and it loses so I said why not? As sure as the sun will come up.on Saturday I will bet on NCAA so why not take them up on a free bet.
@galaxy27 said:
i've been gambling so long that i have a little voice in my head that speaks to me sometimes. when Sirianni got cute on the first drive and bypassed an easy 3, the little voice said he's gonna pay for that. then when Saquon Barkley dropped the easiest pass of his life to effectively end the game, the little voice spoke again and said you're about to lose your bet. and it happened. true to what he had been doing all game long, Vic Fangio refused to dial up pressure on Cousins by sending more than 4 and Atlanta blew down the field and scored like Philly had 8 guys on defense. i simply can't believe that guy refused to blitz when Cousins had had an eternity to throw all game long. just horrific coaching.
that's how you give away a game you had won, and that's how you lose a bet you had won
We were talking about this at work after week 1 the entire NFL world including the fan base saw that Cousins was t comfortable back there and going into week 2 you would have to be a complete buffoon to not want to send your D on him
It's just gross from top to bottom, I'm literally almost at the point of not even betting on the outcome of these games and just stuck to prop. bests.
You have to beat the opposing Team
You have to beat the refs
You have to beat the stupid plays by the
players on the team your betting on
You have to beat the Coach of the team
your betting on to not outsmart himself
Am I missing anything?
forget the money aspect, this is the objective side of me coming out as a football fan.
as i analyze that game, i can't help but wonder how a guy like Nick Sirianni has an HC job. we all saw what his team did the last half of last season. they wilted like a flower and he had no answers. i heard a stat today that when an NFL team has the lead in the final two minutes, they win 90% of the time. when Philly has the lead in the final two minutes, they win 40% of the time. that sounds outrageous but even if it's remotely true, that speaks to the type of coach he is. snatching defeat from the jaws of victory far too often with him at the helm.
the first drive of the game the Eagles stalled near the goal line and on 4th and 4 he goes for it instead of putting points on the board and taking the lead. i thought to myself, what the fuck is he doing. generally speaking, you don't pull unwarranted moves like that without paying the price at some point down the line. lo and behold, they could have used that 3 at the end of the game.
now let's analyze their last drive. Saquon Barkley should have caught the ball, clearly. if he does, the game is over. but a part of me is wondering why Sirianni was dialing up a pass play on 3rd and short with less than 2 minutes to begin with. why the added risk of an incompletion to stop the clock? if he runs the ball, worst case scenario they burn it down under a minute. best case, and this is a very conceivable case, Saquon either gets the 1st to end the game or comes very close. mind you, the Eagles had rushed for almost 200 yards on the night. let's say he doesn't get it but gets close. guess what the Eagles do better than any other team in the league? and if for some reason the Falcons were able to stop them on two consecutive downs running the ball, then they are a mile away with under a minute left down three. what are they gonna do? they're going to drive for the game-timing FG, which -- worst-case scenario -- means overtime. it just seems like a sensible, clear-minded approach on the first and last drives all but guaranteed a victory.
instead it was incomplete pass, stop the clock, kick a FG, and Atlanta had almost two minutes at their disposal to go win the game. which they did, because......
......please don't get me started on Vic Fangio. he pisses me off the most. it was clear to anyone of sound mind that Cousins had limited mobility. it was talked about in the telecast. it was also mentioned that Fangio rarely blitzes. i don't know what you guys saw during that game, but i witnessed 4 quarters of the Eagles' front 4 being stonewalled at the line of scrimmage and the DC refusing to make adjustments, thereby giving a gimpy QB time to set up shop in the pocket. i thought to myself, surely, surely he's going to come to his senses and send a linebacker or two to put some heat on Cousins. i don't care how immobile he is or how much he sucks -- give any professional quarterback enough time and they will carve you up. gee, what happened on that final drive? Fangio refused to blitz and Cousins blew the Falcons down the field and scored in about 60 seconds. zero pass rush, Falcon receivers WIDE open all the way down the field.
if i'm an Eagles fan naturally i'm not happy with Barkley today, but i could not be more disgusted with the coaching staff. those guys are paid to put their players in the best possible position to win, and Sirianni and Fangio did anything but last night and no one can convince me otherwise
feel free to disagree with me
Can't disagree at all - excellent analysis!
Two quick things, the first if nobody believes me, that's okay. During the Eagles first game this season, I can hardly believe myself this happened, but the human brain can be a crazy thing. I wasn't happy with Sirianni in that first game either, and especially after the collapse of last season left a bad taste in my mouth about Sirianni. But long story short, I'm not joking, I know that nobody sees this coming, a voice from deep down inside the primordial part of my brain suddenly wondered what the Eagles would be like with Belichick coaching instead of Sirianni? Then my more advanced evolution part of my brain thought that might be a good idea. Frankly, and I'd pass a polygraph test on this, I wouldn't mind at all if that happened, Belichick coaching the Eagles, and I'm getting to the point whereby I'd actually like to see it happen, Even though I realize the possibility probably doesn't exist.
Second thing as Lombardi preached and so did others before him. Play to your strengths until the other team stops you. That is fundamentally sound football 101. Sirianni for some inexplicable reason doesn't seem to believe in that often enough. He tries to get too cute out there. Then he winds up outsmarting himself. Well he just might outsmart himself out of a job.
I've been following football for a long time. I'm not going to pretend I could be a head coach. However if ya fully understand the game, and know the team players, based on the situation during the game, it's not that hard to accurately predict the play call ahead of time before each snap. I'm right most of the time with an occasional surprise of a play call that fools me. However with Nick Sirianni, he absolutely baffles me a number of times during a game and he seems to baffle himself.
Hold on Steve, I absolutely believe most of us in this thread could be a head coach and do a far better job at decision making than most of these guys who like to get cute and out smart themselves.
The list of moronic and bizarre stupid decisions by NFL coaches is endless.
To the point that they are just completely stupid or are in on throwing a game or both.
@galaxy27 said:
i've been gambling so long that i have a little voice in my head that speaks to me sometimes. when Sirianni got cute on the first drive and bypassed an easy 3, the little voice said he's gonna pay for that. then when Saquon Barkley dropped the easiest pass of his life to effectively end the game, the little voice spoke again and said you're about to lose your bet. and it happened. true to what he had been doing all game long, Vic Fangio refused to dial up pressure on Cousins by sending more than 4 and Atlanta blew down the field and scored like Philly had 8 guys on defense. i simply can't believe that guy refused to blitz when Cousins had had an eternity to throw all game long. just horrific coaching.
that's how you give away a game you had won, and that's how you lose a bet you had won
We were talking about this at work after week 1 the entire NFL world including the fan base saw that Cousins was t comfortable back there and going into week 2 you would have to be a complete buffoon to not want to send your D on him
It's just gross from top to bottom, I'm literally almost at the point of not even betting on the outcome of these games and just stuck to prop. bests.
You have to beat the opposing Team
You have to beat the refs
You have to beat the stupid plays by the
players on the team your betting on
You have to beat the Coach of the team
your betting on to not outsmart himself
Am I missing anything?
forget the money aspect, this is the objective side of me coming out as a football fan.
as i analyze that game, i can't help but wonder how a guy like Nick Sirianni has an HC job. we all saw what his team did the last half of last season. they wilted like a flower and he had no answers. i heard a stat today that when an NFL team has the lead in the final two minutes, they win 90% of the time. when Philly has the lead in the final two minutes, they win 40% of the time. that sounds outrageous but even if it's remotely true, that speaks to the type of coach he is. snatching defeat from the jaws of victory far too often with him at the helm.
the first drive of the game the Eagles stalled near the goal line and on 4th and 4 he goes for it instead of putting points on the board and taking the lead. i thought to myself, what the fuck is he doing. generally speaking, you don't pull unwarranted moves like that without paying the price at some point down the line. lo and behold, they could have used that 3 at the end of the game.
now let's analyze their last drive. Saquon Barkley should have caught the ball, clearly. if he does, the game is over. but a part of me is wondering why Sirianni was dialing up a pass play on 3rd and short with less than 2 minutes to begin with. why the added risk of an incompletion to stop the clock? if he runs the ball, worst case scenario they burn it down under a minute. best case, and this is a very conceivable case, Saquon either gets the 1st to end the game or comes very close. mind you, the Eagles had rushed for almost 200 yards on the night. let's say he doesn't get it but gets close. guess what the Eagles do better than any other team in the league? and if for some reason the Falcons were able to stop them on two consecutive downs running the ball, then they are a mile away with under a minute left down three. what are they gonna do? they're going to drive for the game-timing FG, which -- worst-case scenario -- means overtime. it just seems like a sensible, clear-minded approach on the first and last drives all but guaranteed a victory.
instead it was incomplete pass, stop the clock, kick a FG, and Atlanta had almost two minutes at their disposal to go win the game. which they did, because......
......please don't get me started on Vic Fangio. he pisses me off the most. it was clear to anyone of sound mind that Cousins had limited mobility. it was talked about in the telecast. it was also mentioned that Fangio rarely blitzes. i don't know what you guys saw during that game, but i witnessed 4 quarters of the Eagles' front 4 being stonewalled at the line of scrimmage and the DC refusing to make adjustments, thereby giving a gimpy QB time to set up shop in the pocket. i thought to myself, surely, surely he's going to come to his senses and send a linebacker or two to put some heat on Cousins. i don't care how immobile he is or how much he sucks -- give any professional quarterback enough time and they will carve you up. gee, what happened on that final drive? Fangio refused to blitz and Cousins blew the Falcons down the field and scored in about 60 seconds. zero pass rush, Falcon receivers WIDE open all the way down the field.
if i'm an Eagles fan naturally i'm not happy with Barkley today, but i could not be more disgusted with the coaching staff. those guys are paid to put their players in the best possible position to win, and Sirianni and Fangio did anything but last night and no one can convince me otherwise
feel free to disagree with me
Can't disagree at all - excellent analysis!
Two quick things, the first if nobody believes me, that's okay. During the Eagles first game this season, I can hardly believe myself this happened, but the human brain can be a crazy thing. I wasn't happy with Sirianni in that first game either, and especially after the collapse of last season left a bad taste in my mouth about Sirianni. But long story short, I'm not joking, I know that nobody sees this coming, a voice from deep down inside the primordial part of my brain suddenly wondered what the Eagles would be like with Belichick coaching instead of Sirianni? Then my more advanced evolution part of my brain thought that might be a good idea. Frankly, and I'd pass a polygraph test on this, I wouldn't mind at all if that happened, Belichick coaching the Eagles, and I'm getting to the point whereby I'd actually like to see it happen, Even though I realize the possibility probably doesn't exist.
Second thing as Lombardi preached and so did others before him. Play to your strengths until the other team stops you. That is fundamentally sound football 101. Sirianni for some inexplicable reason doesn't seem to believe in that often enough. He tries to get too cute out there. Then he winds up outsmarting himself. Well he just might outsmart himself out of a job.
I've been following football for a long time. I'm not going to pretend I could be a head coach. However if ya fully understand the game, and know the team players, based on the situation during the game, it's not that hard to accurately predict the play call ahead of time before each snap. I'm right most of the time with an occasional surprise of a play call that fools me. However with Nick Sirianni, he absolutely baffles me a number of times during a game and he seems to baffle himself.
Hold on Steve, I absolutely believe most of us in this thread could be a head coach and do a far better job at decision making than most of these guys who like to get cute and out smart themselves.
The list of moronic and bizarre stupid decisions by NFL coaches is endless.
To the point that they are just completely stupid or are in on throwing a game or both.
Well then I'll email my resume to the Eagles.
I don't care what's the salary. My main request would be a weekly meeting in a hot tub with the cheerleaders. 😎
This is a perfect example of a degenerate gambler type of bet but let me explain, I was offered a free bet if I make any bet on WNBA and it loses so I said why not? As sure as the sun will come up.on Saturday I will bet on NCAA so why not take them up on a free bet.
Draftkings may be wondering right now who is this Perkdog guy?
Because none of their customers ever won on any WNBA bet before. 😆
Hit my first parlay of the year for $784.80 on a $20 parlay. Doing 15 $20 NFL parlays a week, so up a little so far.
Liking the combined rushing+receiving and passing+rushing options for RBs and QBs. I stopped adding QB passing yards to my parlays because they miss too much but adding the rushing option to the QB overall yardage makes it a more palatable bet for me.
when you're running bad as a gambler you'll try anything to turn the tide. after the Philly debacle on Monday night i started to wonder if supernatural beings were reading my bets on here and making it a point to inflict max punishment on me. so starting on Tues i decided to place a wager without posting it. it hit, so i decided to do it again on Wed. it hit, so i decided to do it again tonight. it hit too. and no, it had nothing to do with me being afraid of looking like a bigger buffoon than i already am. i've never been one to care what people think about me. i was simply willing to try ANYTHING to shake up the status quo, and had it not worked i was prepared to humiliate myself even further by showing you guys what i did.
because i didn't post these ahead of time i'm not going to include them in my running P/L figure. so for the sake of this thread i'm still stuck almost 3k. and before anyone asks dude how do you go from betting a grand on St Louis to 68 bucks the next night, there's an easy answer: on the 1k night i was drunk, and the 68 dollar night i was sober. tonight i was moderately tipsy.
this little experiment ended tonight. i'm going back to posting my bets before they happen, which probably means i'm going back to getting my ass handed to me. 👻
@Darin said:
Galaxy nice hits!
But they should count towards your running total doesnt matter if you posted beforehand or not.
Especially since he had the absolute BALLS to put a $1000 on a Baseball game!!
Nerves of STEEL
Cardinals won the game 3 to 1 on only 5 hits. Must have been some timely hits. So Galaxy at least caught a break on that game, considering the low hit output.
Galaxy deserved a break after that Eagles fiasco loss, I think he said cost him $700. So the Cardinals win helped even it out a little bit.
Perhaps his recent visit to the Cardinals stadium with his Dad, had something to do with the win? 😊
I posted way back in April I had some bets on the Royals to win their division. They made a good effort but came up short. At least it’s been fun for me to watch many of their games on tv and to see Bobby Witt jr step up his game to another level.
@Darin said:
Galaxy nice hits!
But they should count towards your running total doesnt matter if you posted beforehand or not.
Especially since he had the absolute BALLS to put a $1000 on a Baseball game!!
Nerves of STEEL
Cardinals won the game 3 to 1 on only 5 hits. Must have been some timely hits. So Galaxy at least caught a break on that game, considering the low hit output.
Galaxy deserved a break after that Eagles fiasco loss, I think he said cost him $700. So the Cardinals win helped even it out a little bit.
Perhaps his recent visit to the Cardinals stadium with his Dad, had something to do with the win? 😊
The Eagles fiasco cost me a parlay. Had the over in that game came up 3 points short. Had it hooked with the Jets, who won Thursday.
Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
@countdouglas said:
In the early days of legalized riverboat gambling, Missouri had some laws on the books that put single boat Sam's Town North Kansas City at a terrible disadvantage to the twin boat casinos on either side of the highway from it, Harrah's North Kansas City and Station Casino North Kansas City.
Because of this, Sam's Town was where all of the sharps went to play, and we quickly put it out of business. Going to the casino was like going to the ATM.
Sam's Town only lasted 2 or 3 years, closing around 1998, I think. If you've ever read the book "Bringing Down the House", it does a pretty good job of describing how those small casinos were ripe for the picking. 25 years on, and I'll still run into people that want to reminisce wistfully about all of the winning that went on there. Lol
I've never read the book and I've only ever seen clips of the movie on Youtube. I believe there was a lot of fiction in that movie and leave it at that. Suffice to say that there are lots of folks out there who make money through illegal activities such as drug dealing, etc, who put on their income tax returns that they made the money by gambling.
There are ways that casinos go out of business. The obvious way is too many expenses and too few customers. But there's an interesting way that John Scarne details in his famous book that I've read. If a gambler with deep pockets gets hot, he could Martingale a casino out of business. It has happened. Smart casinos keep caps on their betting to prevent that. But I could envision a greedy casino owner when a whale walks in the door, for him the casino owner removes the caps, and possibly by the end of the night the whale now owns the casino. LOL
When riverboat gambling was originally sold to the voters of Missouri, they were told that there would be actual cruising of the Missouri River, with 2 hour excursions, and to prevent problem gambling, individuals would be limited to only $500 buy-in per cruise.
After passing the referendum, it was deemed that the cruises would be too dangerous on the unpredictable Missouri River, and hence the "boats in a moat" idea was hatched. They basically docked the boats in a bathtub full of Missouri River water, and invested in land based infrastructure like restaurants, movie theaters, arcades, concert venues, parking garages, and hotels. Patrons could still only board on the even numbered hours, until 45 minutes after the hour, at which time the entrance doors would be closed. They actually charged dynamicly priced admission for these cruises, ranging from $2 per cruise on the off peak times, all the way up to $9 per cruise on Friday and Saturday nights. You could still leave the boat any time that you wanted, but you could not re-enter until the next even hour. During each "cruise", you were limited to a $500 buy-in. It was illegal to pass chips from player to player, however, if you brought extra chips yourself from previous "cruises", you could play those. If you ran out of chips, you had to wait until the next cruise to purchase up to another $500.
Both Harrah's to the west and Station to the east of Sam's Town found a way around this, and had a second boat, with cruise times on the odd hours. Sam's Town remained a one boat casino, only boarding on the even hours. Needless to say, these laws kept the big money players, the out of state tourists, and the local degenerates away from Sam's Town, because if they barely missed the boarding time, they would have to wait over an hour to enter. If they went to the other locations, they'd have to wait at most 15 minutes, if at all. You had to pass by either of the 2 boat casinos to even get to Sam's Town, no matter what direction you were coming from. If you're just out for a night of recreation, why would you continue on to a one boat casino that you might not make quite in time?
The pros would usually choose to show up at Sam's Town around 40 minutes after the hour before the doors closed, and then walk the pits to find each other. Game recognizes game. The previous 40 minutes was plenty of time for the small timers and terrible players that rushed on when the doors opened to be weeded out, and once we got a game full of pros with deep pockets full of chips, it was on like Donkey Kong! Just think of the hottest table you've ever been on, where everyone played their cards correctly and everyone was stacking chips. That's how it was nearly every time you went to Sam's Town.
It took a couple of years, but whether you subscribe to the idea that it was a death by a thousand paper cuts, a dog full of ticks dying from anemia, or a sheep being shorn on a nightly basis, we killed the golden goose (all good metaphors!), and Sam's Town was run out of town, selling off the boat and leaving all of the land based infrastructure behind. All of that trouble to get a license, all of that investment, and they just walked away. Nothing is there now but an abandoned parking garage and the empty structure that housed the restaurants and offices, etc. Ironically, in 2018, Sam's Town's parent company, Boyd Gaming, purchased the old Station Casino and hotel and have now reentered the Kansas City market.
The reference to the book wasn't to perpetrate that the story in the book was 100% fact, just that the time period the book covers was indeed a prime period for making money at the casinos. The spread of legalized gambling was new. Most casino players were too inexperienced and could easily be intimidated to get the hell off of your table. Unfortunately, now every Tom, Dick, and Harry reads a book, watches a video, play a few hands on a Saturday night with their buddies, and they think they're an expert and can sit in with the big boys. My favorite cut down back then, one I'll never forget, was when this $5 All-Star thought he was a card counting master and decided it was time, that he was going to split 10s to make some money. This chain smoking old lady looked at the kid, blew smoke in his face, and with her gravelly smokers baritone said, "You stupid S.O.B.! If you ever wake up and find yourself blessed by God with a 10-inch D, PLEASE don't cut it in half and try to get laid twice!" (I cleaned it up a bit! Lol) Needless to say he didn't stick around after that burn!
The local casinos in the 1990s were initially extremely lax on security. I know multiple people that would go when they were under 21. They didn't have a fake ID, they would just never get carded when they paid for their boarding pass and then they would just walk right on. Some even went WITH their parents. It's absolutely bonkers to think about now.
Station Casino finally got busted by the Missouri Gaming Commission for allowing underage patrons when a mother took her underage daughter gambling (it's so long ago, but I want to say the girl was only 17!) Every employee, from the one that issued the boarding pass, to the employee at the door, to the security on duty, to the waitresses that served her alcohol, to the dealers and pit bosses that oversaw the tables that she played, they were all fired. Station was fined something like $450,000. The mother did jail time, and I believe was sued by Station for at least half of the amount that they were fined. The casinos all cracked down on checking identification after that. Anyway, I'm not saying that I was involved in any illegal shenanigans, but I have no doubt stuff was going on because of lax security. If they weren't trying to keep 20 year olds out, it doesn't give you confidence that they cared much about keeping the criminals and scammers out, either.
Dealers were inexperienced. You would get paid regularly on hands that you had actually lost. I always felt karma was gonna get me, so I'd tell them to hold up and count the cards again, but I'm sure scammers could exploit that weakness with inexperienced employees, like the book alludes to.
The casinos have since really made it hard on the pros. There's a reason that the 21+3 and other side bets have taken over the blackjack landscape. It brings in a high proportion of unskilled novice players that wreak havoc on the table because they are more concerned with their 9 to 1 side bet than actually knowing how to play technically sound blackjack that only pays off for them with even money.
Still, every once in awhile you'll luck into a table full of OGs, where everyone is masterfully playing basic strategy coupled with a hybrid/negative/positive progression betting strategy. No side bets or carnival game players. No card counters allowed. No jackwagons that randomly sit out a hand or start playing 2 hands because "somebody needs to change things up". No! No! And No! They have to be Cory Hart fans - Never Surrender! Deep pockets, so they're not caught short or choking all over themselves like Trouty in a pressure situation when they need to split 8s four times against a 10. Play the cards as they come, with precision, with confidence. No fear. Stack those chips and count that money!
@countdouglas said:
In the early days of legalized riverboat gambling, Missouri had some laws on the books that put single boat Sam's Town North Kansas City at a terrible disadvantage to the twin boat casinos on either side of the highway from it, Harrah's North Kansas City and Station Casino North Kansas City.
Because of this, Sam's Town was where all of the sharps went to play, and we quickly put it out of business. Going to the casino was like going to the ATM.
Sam's Town only lasted 2 or 3 years, closing around 1998, I think. If you've ever read the book "Bringing Down the House", it does a pretty good job of describing how those small casinos were ripe for the picking. 25 years on, and I'll still run into people that want to reminisce wistfully about all of the winning that went on there. Lol
I've never read the book and I've only ever seen clips of the movie on Youtube. I believe there was a lot of fiction in that movie and leave it at that. Suffice to say that there are lots of folks out there who make money through illegal activities such as drug dealing, etc, who put on their income tax returns that they made the money by gambling.
There are ways that casinos go out of business. The obvious way is too many expenses and too few customers. But there's an interesting way that John Scarne details in his famous book that I've read. If a gambler with deep pockets gets hot, he could Martingale a casino out of business. It has happened. Smart casinos keep caps on their betting to prevent that. But I could envision a greedy casino owner when a whale walks in the door, for him the casino owner removes the caps, and possibly by the end of the night the whale now owns the casino. LOL
When riverboat gambling was originally sold to the voters of Missouri, they were told that there would be actual cruising of the Missouri River, with 2 hour excursions, and to prevent problem gambling, individuals would be limited to only $500 buy-in per cruise.
After passing the referendum, it was deemed that the cruises would be too dangerous on the unpredictable Missouri River, and hence the "boats in a moat" idea was hatched. They basically docked the boats in a bathtub full of Missouri River water, and invested in land based infrastructure like restaurants, movie theaters, arcades, concert venues, parking garages, and hotels. Patrons could still only board on the even numbered hours, until 45 minutes after the hour, at which time the entrance doors would be closed. They actually charged dynamicly priced admission for these cruises, ranging from $2 per cruise on the off peak times, all the way up to $9 per cruise on Friday and Saturday nights. You could still leave the boat any time that you wanted, but you could not re-enter until the next even hour. During each "cruise", you were limited to a $500 buy-in. It was illegal to pass chips from player to player, however, if you brought extra chips yourself from previous "cruises", you could play those. If you ran out of chips, you had to wait until the next cruise to purchase up to another $500.
Both Harrah's to the west and Station to the east of Sam's Town found a way around this, and had a second boat, with cruise times on the odd hours. Sam's Town remained a one boat casino, only boarding on the even hours. Needless to say, these laws kept the big money players, the out of state tourists, and the local degenerates away from Sam's Town, because if they barely missed the boarding time, they would have to wait over an hour to enter. If they went to the other locations, they'd have to wait at most 15 minutes, if at all. You had to pass by either of the 2 boat casinos to even get to Sam's Town, no matter what direction you were coming from. If you're just out for a night of recreation, why would you continue on to a one boat casino that you might not make quite in time?
The pros would usually choose to show up at Sam's Town around 40 minutes after the hour before the doors closed, and then walk the pits to find each other. Game recognizes game. The previous 40 minutes was plenty of time for the small timers and terrible players that rushed on when the doors opened to be weeded out, and once we got a game full of pros with deep pockets full of chips, it was on like Donkey Kong! Just think of the hottest table you've ever been on, where everyone played their cards correctly and everyone was stacking chips. That's how it was nearly every time you went to Sam's Town.
It took a couple of years, but whether you subscribe to the idea that it was a death by a thousand paper cuts, a dog full of ticks dying from anemia, or a sheep being shorn on a nightly basis, we killed the golden goose (all good metaphors!), and Sam's Town was run out of town, selling off the boat and leaving all of the land based infrastructure behind. All of that trouble to get a license, all of that investment, and they just walked away. Nothing is there now but an abandoned parking garage and the empty structure that housed the restaurants and offices, etc. Ironically, in 2018, Sam's Town's parent company, Boyd Gaming, purchased the old Station Casino and hotel and have now reentered the Kansas City market.
The reference to the book wasn't to perpetrate that the story in the book was 100% fact, just that the time period the book covers was indeed a prime period for making money at the casinos. The spread of legalized gambling was new. Most casino players were too inexperienced and could easily be intimidated to get the hell off of your table. Unfortunately, now every Tom, Dick, and Harry reads a book, watches a video, play a few hands on a Saturday night with their buddies, and they think they're an expert and can sit in with the big boys. My favorite cut down back then, one I'll never forget, was when this $5 All-Star thought he was a card counting master and decided it was time, that he was going to split 10s to make some money. This chain smoking old lady looked at the kid, blew smoke in his face, and with her gravelly smokers baritone said, "You stupid S.O.B.! If you ever wake up and find yourself blessed by God with a 10-inch D, PLEASE don't cut it in half and try to get laid twice!" (I cleaned it up a bit! Lol) Needless to say he didn't stick around after that burn!
The local casinos in the 1990s were initially extremely lax on security. I know multiple people that would go when they were under 21. They didn't have a fake ID, they would just never get carded when they paid for their boarding pass and then they would just walk right on. Some even went WITH their parents. It's absolutely bonkers to think about now.
Station Casino finally got busted by the Missouri Gaming Commission for allowing underage patrons when a mother took her underage daughter gambling (it's so long ago, but I want to say the girl was only 17!) Every employee, from the one that issued the boarding pass, to the employee at the door, to the security on duty, to the waitresses that served her alcohol, to the dealers and pit bosses that oversaw the tables that she played, they were all fired. Station was fined something like $450,000. The mother did jail time, and I believe was sued by Station for at least half of the amount that they were fined. The casinos all cracked down on checking identification after that. Anyway, I'm not saying that I was involved in any illegal shenanigans, but I have no doubt stuff was going on because of lax security. If they weren't trying to keep 20 year olds out, it doesn't give you confidence that they cared much about keeping the criminals and scammers out, either.
Dealers were inexperienced. You would get paid regularly on hands that you had actually lost. I always felt karma was gonna get me, so I'd tell them to hold up and count the cards again, but I'm sure scammers could exploit that weakness with inexperienced employees, like the book alludes to.
The casinos have since really made it hard on the pros. There's a reason that the 21+3 and other side bets have taken over the blackjack landscape. It brings in a high proportion of unskilled novice players that wreak havoc on the table because they are more concerned with their 9 to 1 side bet than actually knowing how to play technically sound blackjack that only pays off for them with even money.
Still, every once in awhile you'll luck into a table full of OGs, where everyone is masterfully playing basic strategy coupled with a hybrid/negative/positive progression betting strategy. No side bets or carnival game players. No card counters allowed. No jackwagons that randomly sit out a hand or start playing 2 hands because "somebody needs to change things up". No! No! And No! They have to be Cory Hart fans - Never Surrender! Deep pockets, so they're not caught short or choking all over themselves like Trouty in a pressure situation when they need to split 8s four times against a 10. Play the cards as they come, with precision, with confidence. No fear. Stack those chips and count that money!
Interesting story, and just a few quick points because i think the OP would prefer to keep the thread posts about sports, and I know the moderators would. LOL
Firstly, around a hundred years ago, casinos used to offer pinball machines as a form of gambling in their venues. When players became so good, the players could beat the machines even when the casinos would raise the points total for a cash-out. So the casinos simply stopped offering pinball machines for wagering. Proof that casinos are not about to allow a game of skill under their roof whereby a sharp player could consistently make withdrawals and win money.
The only exception is poker, whereby the casinos act as simply a dealer, and the players compete among themselves. As you likely know, the casinos rake the pots, and that's how the casinos profit from poker. Frankly at a casino, low stakes poker is unbeatable for reasons I'm not going to discuss in this thread. However at high enough stakes, if the opposition is soft enough, a sharp player can make money, of course winning it against the weaker players, not the casino. I enjoy watching some of the "live" poker shows on YouTube, and it's obvious and fact that a superb poker player such as Garrett Adelstein and others, can and do make a lot of money playing high stakes poker at casinos.
As far as blackjack, yes there can be times during a shoe, and it's certainly not common, whereby a player could have a very slight edge over the dealer. However the basic dilemma is a player must play at a table for many hours, days, or whatever and play at the table whereby the odds are not in his favor. Constantly losing money to finally get to that favorable spot in a shoe. And then still needs some luck to win, as the player edge is very slight. The casinos of course know all of this, and many years ago capped the wagering amounts so that a sharp player, finally getting a favorable shoe, couldn't Martingale the casino with odds in the player's favor. The player along with some good luck, could win some money during that time in the shoe. But usually the time is short, and with the bets capped, he can't in the long run make enough money during that time to account for the losses previously mentioned.
Bottom line, if blackjack were truly a game of skill whereby sharp players could make money against the casino, the casinos would have simply stopped offering blackjack as they did the pinball machines.
you are correct. never bet with your heart. when i was perusing the afternoon wave from the golf tournament my nose said Ravens and my heart said Cardinals. i deserved to lose that one.
i underestimated just how horrendous Cincinnati's D is. they are an unmitigated disaster -- didn't force a turnover or punt last night. first time since 1940 that Washington had pulled that off in a game. they made Jayden Daniels look like Sonny Jurgensen.
i don't like Dak and i hate Dallas, but i'm thinking about the Cowboys' money line as well. this game on Thursday is basically their season. go look at their schedule -- they could conceivably lose the next 5 games after the Giants. i felt strongly about the Cowboys sucking this season, but this could get very ugly, very quickly
The Giants- Dallas game is tough to call. The Giants don’t like teams that play defense, so they’re in luck this Thursday. Will the Giants be able to hang with the Cowboys. They shouldn’t be, but one bad bounce and there goes your bet. Good luck.
I had a couple losing bets….long shot parlays that I didn’t throw much money on. Probably sit out next weekend, maybe it’s just me but looks like there could be a lot of close matchups
Tough call on tonight's game. I always root for the Cowboys to lose. And it does seem like they may be ready to collapse. But the bookies are calling it at -6 for the Cowboys on a road game.
As we all know, bookies normally don't give money away. Perhaps the bookies feel that getting out of Dallas for a road game, might actually help the Cowboys, as they can get away from boos from their fans?
Despite the win last week on the road, the Giants are still second to the bottom at 300-1 odds to win the Super Bowl. I guess the bookies are figuring the Giants are so bad, that even a "depressed" Cowboys team can beat them by a touchdown? We shall see.
@countdouglas said:
In the early days of legalized riverboat gambling, Missouri had some laws on the books that put single boat Sam's Town North Kansas City at a terrible disadvantage to the twin boat casinos on either side of the highway from it, Harrah's North Kansas City and Station Casino North Kansas City.
Because of this, Sam's Town was where all of the sharps went to play, and we quickly put it out of business. Going to the casino was like going to the ATM.
Sam's Town only lasted 2 or 3 years, closing around 1998, I think. If you've ever read the book "Bringing Down the House", it does a pretty good job of describing how those small casinos were ripe for the picking. 25 years on, and I'll still run into people that want to reminisce wistfully about all of the winning that went on there. Lol
I've never read the book and I've only ever seen clips of the movie on Youtube. I believe there was a lot of fiction in that movie and leave it at that. Suffice to say that there are lots of folks out there who make money through illegal activities such as drug dealing, etc, who put on their income tax returns that they made the money by gambling.
There are ways that casinos go out of business. The obvious way is too many expenses and too few customers. But there's an interesting way that John Scarne details in his famous book that I've read. If a gambler with deep pockets gets hot, he could Martingale a casino out of business. It has happened. Smart casinos keep caps on their betting to prevent that. But I could envision a greedy casino owner when a whale walks in the door, for him the casino owner removes the caps, and possibly by the end of the night the whale now owns the casino. LOL
When riverboat gambling was originally sold to the voters of Missouri, they were told that there would be actual cruising of the Missouri River, with 2 hour excursions, and to prevent problem gambling, individuals would be limited to only $500 buy-in per cruise.
After passing the referendum, it was deemed that the cruises would be too dangerous on the unpredictable Missouri River, and hence the "boats in a moat" idea was hatched. They basically docked the boats in a bathtub full of Missouri River water, and invested in land based infrastructure like restaurants, movie theaters, arcades, concert venues, parking garages, and hotels. Patrons could still only board on the even numbered hours, until 45 minutes after the hour, at which time the entrance doors would be closed. They actually charged dynamicly priced admission for these cruises, ranging from $2 per cruise on the off peak times, all the way up to $9 per cruise on Friday and Saturday nights. You could still leave the boat any time that you wanted, but you could not re-enter until the next even hour. During each "cruise", you were limited to a $500 buy-in. It was illegal to pass chips from player to player, however, if you brought extra chips yourself from previous "cruises", you could play those. If you ran out of chips, you had to wait until the next cruise to purchase up to another $500.
Both Harrah's to the west and Station to the east of Sam's Town found a way around this, and had a second boat, with cruise times on the odd hours. Sam's Town remained a one boat casino, only boarding on the even hours. Needless to say, these laws kept the big money players, the out of state tourists, and the local degenerates away from Sam's Town, because if they barely missed the boarding time, they would have to wait over an hour to enter. If they went to the other locations, they'd have to wait at most 15 minutes, if at all. You had to pass by either of the 2 boat casinos to even get to Sam's Town, no matter what direction you were coming from. If you're just out for a night of recreation, why would you continue on to a one boat casino that you might not make quite in time?
The pros would usually choose to show up at Sam's Town around 40 minutes after the hour before the doors closed, and then walk the pits to find each other. Game recognizes game. The previous 40 minutes was plenty of time for the small timers and terrible players that rushed on when the doors opened to be weeded out, and once we got a game full of pros with deep pockets full of chips, it was on like Donkey Kong! Just think of the hottest table you've ever been on, where everyone played their cards correctly and everyone was stacking chips. That's how it was nearly every time you went to Sam's Town.
It took a couple of years, but whether you subscribe to the idea that it was a death by a thousand paper cuts, a dog full of ticks dying from anemia, or a sheep being shorn on a nightly basis, we killed the golden goose (all good metaphors!), and Sam's Town was run out of town, selling off the boat and leaving all of the land based infrastructure behind. All of that trouble to get a license, all of that investment, and they just walked away. Nothing is there now but an abandoned parking garage and the empty structure that housed the restaurants and offices, etc. Ironically, in 2018, Sam's Town's parent company, Boyd Gaming, purchased the old Station Casino and hotel and have now reentered the Kansas City market.
The reference to the book wasn't to perpetrate that the story in the book was 100% fact, just that the time period the book covers was indeed a prime period for making money at the casinos. The spread of legalized gambling was new. Most casino players were too inexperienced and could easily be intimidated to get the hell off of your table. Unfortunately, now every Tom, Dick, and Harry reads a book, watches a video, play a few hands on a Saturday night with their buddies, and they think they're an expert and can sit in with the big boys. My favorite cut down back then, one I'll never forget, was when this $5 All-Star thought he was a card counting master and decided it was time, that he was going to split 10s to make some money. This chain smoking old lady looked at the kid, blew smoke in his face, and with her gravelly smokers baritone said, "You stupid S.O.B.! If you ever wake up and find yourself blessed by God with a 10-inch D, PLEASE don't cut it in half and try to get laid twice!" (I cleaned it up a bit! Lol) Needless to say he didn't stick around after that burn!
The local casinos in the 1990s were initially extremely lax on security. I know multiple people that would go when they were under 21. They didn't have a fake ID, they would just never get carded when they paid for their boarding pass and then they would just walk right on. Some even went WITH their parents. It's absolutely bonkers to think about now.
Station Casino finally got busted by the Missouri Gaming Commission for allowing underage patrons when a mother took her underage daughter gambling (it's so long ago, but I want to say the girl was only 17!) Every employee, from the one that issued the boarding pass, to the employee at the door, to the security on duty, to the waitresses that served her alcohol, to the dealers and pit bosses that oversaw the tables that she played, they were all fired. Station was fined something like $450,000. The mother did jail time, and I believe was sued by Station for at least half of the amount that they were fined. The casinos all cracked down on checking identification after that. Anyway, I'm not saying that I was involved in any illegal shenanigans, but I have no doubt stuff was going on because of lax security. If they weren't trying to keep 20 year olds out, it doesn't give you confidence that they cared much about keeping the criminals and scammers out, either.
Dealers were inexperienced. You would get paid regularly on hands that you had actually lost. I always felt karma was gonna get me, so I'd tell them to hold up and count the cards again, but I'm sure scammers could exploit that weakness with inexperienced employees, like the book alludes to.
The casinos have since really made it hard on the pros. There's a reason that the 21+3 and other side bets have taken over the blackjack landscape. It brings in a high proportion of unskilled novice players that wreak havoc on the table because they are more concerned with their 9 to 1 side bet than actually knowing how to play technically sound blackjack that only pays off for them with even money.
Still, every once in awhile you'll luck into a table full of OGs, where everyone is masterfully playing basic strategy coupled with a hybrid/negative/positive progression betting strategy. No side bets or carnival game players. No card counters allowed. No jackwagons that randomly sit out a hand or start playing 2 hands because "somebody needs to change things up". No! No! And No! They have to be Cory Hart fans - Never Surrender! Deep pockets, so they're not caught short or choking all over themselves like Trouty in a pressure situation when they need to split 8s four times against a 10. Play the cards as they come, with precision, with confidence. No fear. Stack those chips and count that money!
@stevek said:
Tough call on tonight's game. I always root for the Cowboys to lose. And it does seem like they may be ready to collapse. But the bookies are calling it at -6 for the Cowboys on a road game.
As we all know, bookies normally don't give money away. Perhaps the bookies feel that getting out of Dallas for a road game, might actually help the Cowboys, as they can get away from boos from their fans?
Despite the win last week on the road, the Giants are still second to the bottom at 300-1 odds to win the Super Bowl. I guess the bookies are figuring the Giants are so bad, that even a "depressed" Cowboys team can beat them by a touchdown? We shall see.
It's lunacy on paper
Cowboys -6 against the Giants??
Got trap game written all over it
If I was forced to wager I'd take the Boys laying 6 but I would not feel like I was in for a sweat free wager
i wish it wasn't a mutually exclusive event, but unfortunately the Boys winning for bluejay and the Boys getting thoroughly humiliated for me can't both happen
so I'll simply root for anyone who has some coin on this game🤙
@galaxy27 said:
I'm going to sit this one out fellas
i wish it wasn't a mutually exclusive event, but unfortunately the Boys winning for bluejay and the Boys getting thoroughly humiliated for me can't both happen
so I'll simply root for anyone who has some coin on this game🤙
Thank you for your support. Never can have enough karma.
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Knocked out early with the over. Only 3 points on the board with 11 minutes to go in the second quarter. No way going to cover the over.
i've been gambling so long that i have a little voice in my head that speaks to me sometimes. when Sirianni got cute on the first drive and bypassed an easy 3, the little voice said he's gonna pay for that. then when Saquon Barkley dropped the easiest pass of his life to effectively end the game, the little voice spoke again and said you're about to lose your bet. and it happened. true to what he had been doing all game long, Vic Fangio refused to dial up pressure on Cousins by sending more than 4 and Atlanta blew down the field and scored like Philly had 8 guys on defense. i simply can't believe that guy refused to blitz when Cousins had had an eternity to throw all game long. just horrific coaching.
that's how you give away a game you had won, and that's how you lose a bet you had won
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Whenever an illustration of a sports nightmare for an Eagles fan is needed, just point to this game.
I should have just placed my finger in an electrical outlet and kept it there for a while, less painful.
Every single one of those prop bets hit, except for the first one. Barkley had a TD run called back because he wasn't quite over the goal line. He came close on some other plays as well.
And of course Barkley drops a game winning pass that a pee-wee football league player doesn't drop. Might have been a touchdown. When that ball was in the air, an Eagles bettor had that money spent. Even after the drop, an Eagles win still seemed like a sure thing. Then the Eagles defense and hiss poor coaching snatched away the winning money like a thief in the night.
I got the "Any Time Touchdown Scorer, Saquon Barkley -175" line from FD.
At +315 DK was giving money away, but the dam bet couldn't hit.
I think the FD number included passing. Perhaps the DK number didn't include passing? If they both included passing, that sure was a huge difference.
Still just taking rushing alone, the DK bet was solid in my opinion, and came within a whisker of hitting.
just want to remind everyone here that if Saquon Barkley had simply caught this football, my roll would be $706 healthier
i felt the need to make this post for proper closure
now it's behind me
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
I watch the replay and as the ball is in the air, I still think he's making the catch. 😖
I would hate to have been in a Philly sports bar at that particular time right after the game. Some things may have been broken. And I doubt if management would have said a word. Just tip the staff to clean it up. I might have been one of those tipping the staff.
We were talking about this at work after week 1 the entire NFL world including the fan base saw that Cousins was t comfortable back there and going into week 2 you would have to be a complete buffoon to not want to send your D on him
It's just gross from top to bottom, I'm literally almost at the point of not even betting on the outcome of these games and just stuck to prop. bests.
You have to beat the opposing Team
You have to beat the refs
You have to beat the stupid plays by the
players on the team your betting on
You have to beat the Coach of the team
your betting on to not outsmart himself
Am I missing anything?
forget the money aspect, this is the objective side of me coming out as a football fan.
as i analyze that game, i can't help but wonder how a guy like Nick Sirianni has an HC job. we all saw what his team did the last half of last season. they wilted like a flower and he had no answers. i heard a stat today that when an NFL team has the lead in the final two minutes, they win 90% of the time. when Philly has the lead in the final two minutes, they win 40% of the time. that sounds outrageous but even if it's remotely true, that speaks to the type of coach he is. snatching defeat from the jaws of victory far too often with him at the helm.
the first drive of the game the Eagles stalled near the goal line and on 4th and 4 he goes for it instead of putting points on the board and taking the lead. i thought to myself, what the fuck is he doing. generally speaking, you don't pull unwarranted moves like that without paying the price at some point down the line. lo and behold, they could have used that 3 at the end of the game.
now let's analyze their last drive. Saquon Barkley should have caught the ball, clearly. if he does, the game is over. but a part of me is wondering why Sirianni was dialing up a pass play on 3rd and short with less than 2 minutes to begin with. why the added risk of an incompletion to stop the clock? if he runs the ball, worst case scenario they burn it down under a minute. best case, and this is a very conceivable case, Saquon either gets the 1st to end the game or comes very close. mind you, the Eagles had rushed for almost 200 yards on the night. let's say he doesn't get it but gets close. guess what the Eagles do better than any other team in the league? and if for some reason the Falcons were able to stop them on two consecutive downs running the ball, then they are a mile away with under a minute left down three. what are they gonna do? they're going to drive for the game-tying FG, which -- worst-case scenario -- means overtime. it just seems like a sensible, clear-minded approach on the first and last drives all but guaranteed a victory.
instead it was incomplete pass, stop the clock, kick a FG, and Atlanta had almost two minutes at their disposal to go win the game. which they did, because......
......please don't get me started on Vic Fangio. he pisses me off the most. it was clear to anyone of sound mind that Cousins had limited mobility. it was talked about in the telecast. it was also mentioned that Fangio rarely blitzes. i don't know what you guys saw during that game, but i witnessed 4 quarters of the Eagles' front 4 being stonewalled at the line of scrimmage and the DC refusing to make adjustments, thereby giving a gimpy QB time to set up shop in the pocket. i thought to myself, surely, surely he's going to come to his senses and send a linebacker or two to put some heat on Cousins. i don't care how immobile he is or how much he sucks -- give any professional quarterback enough time and they will carve you up. gee, what happened on that final drive? Fangio refused to blitz and Cousins blew the Falcons down the field and scored in about 60 seconds. zero pass rush, Falcon receivers WIDE open all the way down the field.
if i'm an Eagles fan naturally i'm not happy with Barkley today, but i could not be more disgusted with the coaching staff. those guys are paid to put their players in the best possible position to win, and Sirianni and Fangio did anything but last night and no one can convince me otherwise
feel free to disagree with me
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Your staying facts, bottom line
Can't disagree at all - excellent analysis!
Two quick things, the first if nobody believes me, that's okay. During the Eagles first game this season, I can hardly believe myself this happened, but the human brain can be a crazy thing. I wasn't happy with Sirianni in that first game either, and especially after the collapse of last season left a bad taste in my mouth about Sirianni. But long story short, I'm not joking, I know that nobody sees this coming, a voice from deep down inside the primordial part of my brain suddenly wondered what the Eagles would be like with Belichick coaching instead of Sirianni? Then my more advanced evolution part of my brain thought that might be a good idea. Frankly, and I'd pass a polygraph test on this, I wouldn't mind at all if that happened, Belichick coaching the Eagles, and I'm getting to the point whereby I'd actually like to see it happen, Even though I realize the possibility probably doesn't exist.
Second thing as Lombardi preached and so did others before him. Play to your strengths until the other team stops you. That is fundamentally sound football 101. Sirianni for some inexplicable reason doesn't seem to believe in that often enough. He tries to get too cute out there. Then he winds up outsmarting himself. Well he just might outsmart himself out of a job.
I've been following football for a long time. I'm not going to pretend I could be a head coach. However if ya fully understand the game, and know the team players, based on the situation during the game, it's not that hard to accurately predict the play call ahead of time before each snap. I'm right most of the time with an occasional surprise of a play call that fools me. However with Nick Sirianni, he absolutely baffles me a number of times during a game and he seems to baffle himself.
This is a perfect example of a degenerate gambler type of bet but let me explain, I was offered a free bet if I make any bet on WNBA and it loses so I said why not? As sure as the sun will come up.on Saturday I will bet on NCAA so why not take them up on a free bet.
Hold on Steve, I absolutely believe most of us in this thread could be a head coach and do a far better job at decision making than most of these guys who like to get cute and out smart themselves.
The list of moronic and bizarre stupid decisions by NFL coaches is endless.
To the point that they are just completely stupid or are in on throwing a game or both.
Well then I'll email my resume to the Eagles.
I don't care what's the salary. My main request would be a weekly meeting in a hot tub with the cheerleaders. 😎
Draftkings may be wondering right now who is this Perkdog guy?
Because none of their customers ever won on any WNBA bet before. 😆
good hit perk! 🏀
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Thanks Bud!
Hit my first parlay of the year for $784.80 on a $20 parlay. Doing 15 $20 NFL parlays a week, so up a little so far.
Liking the combined rushing+receiving and passing+rushing options for RBs and QBs. I stopped adding QB passing yards to my parlays because they miss too much but adding the rushing option to the QB overall yardage makes it a more palatable bet for me.
Robb
Parlay.Jets ML,KC ML,over 44.5 in SF/Rams tilt.
when you're running bad as a gambler you'll try anything to turn the tide. after the Philly debacle on Monday night i started to wonder if supernatural beings were reading my bets on here and making it a point to inflict max punishment on me. so starting on Tues i decided to place a wager without posting it. it hit, so i decided to do it again on Wed. it hit, so i decided to do it again tonight. it hit too. and no, it had nothing to do with me being afraid of looking like a bigger buffoon than i already am. i've never been one to care what people think about me. i was simply willing to try ANYTHING to shake up the status quo, and had it not worked i was prepared to humiliate myself even further by showing you guys what i did.
because i didn't post these ahead of time i'm not going to include them in my running P/L figure. so for the sake of this thread i'm still stuck almost 3k. and before anyone asks dude how do you go from betting a grand on St Louis to 68 bucks the next night, there's an easy answer: on the 1k night i was drunk, and the 68 dollar night i was sober. tonight i was moderately tipsy.
this little experiment ended tonight. i'm going back to posting my bets before they happen, which probably means i'm going back to getting my ass handed to me. 👻
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Whatever is working ride it out. Glad to see you made some scores.
@galaxy27 AWESOME hits!!
Keep doing what your doing bro, get back on the green!!
That Philly loss still stings. I'm about 10% over it, only 90% to go. 😫
Good hits on the games! 👍
Galaxy nice hits!
But they should count towards your running total doesnt matter if you posted beforehand or not.
Especially since he had the absolute BALLS to put a $1000 on a Baseball game!!
Nerves of STEEL
Cardinals won the game 3 to 1 on only 5 hits. Must have been some timely hits. So Galaxy at least caught a break on that game, considering the low hit output.
Galaxy deserved a break after that Eagles fiasco loss, I think he said cost him $700. So the Cardinals win helped even it out a little bit.
Perhaps his recent visit to the Cardinals stadium with his Dad, had something to do with the win? 😊
I posted way back in April I had some bets on the Royals to win their division. They made a good effort but came up short. At least it’s been fun for me to watch many of their games on tv and to see Bobby Witt jr step up his game to another level.
I will probably make some nfl bets this weekend
exceedingly improbable, but i had to sprinkle on this prop bet parlay
i'm out of the hole if it hits
$5 to win $2,700
Caleb Williams actually throws a touchdown pass this weekend
and
galaxy27 actually gets some action with someone other than himself this weekend
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
And as usual I'm rooting for you brother!!
🍻🍀💯
The Eagles fiasco cost me a parlay. Had the over in that game came up 3 points short. Had it hooked with the Jets, who won Thursday.
When riverboat gambling was originally sold to the voters of Missouri, they were told that there would be actual cruising of the Missouri River, with 2 hour excursions, and to prevent problem gambling, individuals would be limited to only $500 buy-in per cruise.
After passing the referendum, it was deemed that the cruises would be too dangerous on the unpredictable Missouri River, and hence the "boats in a moat" idea was hatched. They basically docked the boats in a bathtub full of Missouri River water, and invested in land based infrastructure like restaurants, movie theaters, arcades, concert venues, parking garages, and hotels. Patrons could still only board on the even numbered hours, until 45 minutes after the hour, at which time the entrance doors would be closed. They actually charged dynamicly priced admission for these cruises, ranging from $2 per cruise on the off peak times, all the way up to $9 per cruise on Friday and Saturday nights. You could still leave the boat any time that you wanted, but you could not re-enter until the next even hour. During each "cruise", you were limited to a $500 buy-in. It was illegal to pass chips from player to player, however, if you brought extra chips yourself from previous "cruises", you could play those. If you ran out of chips, you had to wait until the next cruise to purchase up to another $500.
Both Harrah's to the west and Station to the east of Sam's Town found a way around this, and had a second boat, with cruise times on the odd hours. Sam's Town remained a one boat casino, only boarding on the even hours. Needless to say, these laws kept the big money players, the out of state tourists, and the local degenerates away from Sam's Town, because if they barely missed the boarding time, they would have to wait over an hour to enter. If they went to the other locations, they'd have to wait at most 15 minutes, if at all. You had to pass by either of the 2 boat casinos to even get to Sam's Town, no matter what direction you were coming from. If you're just out for a night of recreation, why would you continue on to a one boat casino that you might not make quite in time?
The pros would usually choose to show up at Sam's Town around 40 minutes after the hour before the doors closed, and then walk the pits to find each other. Game recognizes game. The previous 40 minutes was plenty of time for the small timers and terrible players that rushed on when the doors opened to be weeded out, and once we got a game full of pros with deep pockets full of chips, it was on like Donkey Kong! Just think of the hottest table you've ever been on, where everyone played their cards correctly and everyone was stacking chips. That's how it was nearly every time you went to Sam's Town.
It took a couple of years, but whether you subscribe to the idea that it was a death by a thousand paper cuts, a dog full of ticks dying from anemia, or a sheep being shorn on a nightly basis, we killed the golden goose (all good metaphors!), and Sam's Town was run out of town, selling off the boat and leaving all of the land based infrastructure behind. All of that trouble to get a license, all of that investment, and they just walked away. Nothing is there now but an abandoned parking garage and the empty structure that housed the restaurants and offices, etc. Ironically, in 2018, Sam's Town's parent company, Boyd Gaming, purchased the old Station Casino and hotel and have now reentered the Kansas City market.
The reference to the book wasn't to perpetrate that the story in the book was 100% fact, just that the time period the book covers was indeed a prime period for making money at the casinos. The spread of legalized gambling was new. Most casino players were too inexperienced and could easily be intimidated to get the hell off of your table. Unfortunately, now every Tom, Dick, and Harry reads a book, watches a video, play a few hands on a Saturday night with their buddies, and they think they're an expert and can sit in with the big boys. My favorite cut down back then, one I'll never forget, was when this $5 All-Star thought he was a card counting master and decided it was time, that he was going to split 10s to make some money. This chain smoking old lady looked at the kid, blew smoke in his face, and with her gravelly smokers baritone said, "You stupid S.O.B.! If you ever wake up and find yourself blessed by God with a 10-inch D, PLEASE don't cut it in half and try to get laid twice!" (I cleaned it up a bit! Lol) Needless to say he didn't stick around after that burn!
The local casinos in the 1990s were initially extremely lax on security. I know multiple people that would go when they were under 21. They didn't have a fake ID, they would just never get carded when they paid for their boarding pass and then they would just walk right on. Some even went WITH their parents. It's absolutely bonkers to think about now.
Station Casino finally got busted by the Missouri Gaming Commission for allowing underage patrons when a mother took her underage daughter gambling (it's so long ago, but I want to say the girl was only 17!) Every employee, from the one that issued the boarding pass, to the employee at the door, to the security on duty, to the waitresses that served her alcohol, to the dealers and pit bosses that oversaw the tables that she played, they were all fired. Station was fined something like $450,000. The mother did jail time, and I believe was sued by Station for at least half of the amount that they were fined. The casinos all cracked down on checking identification after that. Anyway, I'm not saying that I was involved in any illegal shenanigans, but I have no doubt stuff was going on because of lax security. If they weren't trying to keep 20 year olds out, it doesn't give you confidence that they cared much about keeping the criminals and scammers out, either.
Dealers were inexperienced. You would get paid regularly on hands that you had actually lost. I always felt karma was gonna get me, so I'd tell them to hold up and count the cards again, but I'm sure scammers could exploit that weakness with inexperienced employees, like the book alludes to.
The casinos have since really made it hard on the pros. There's a reason that the 21+3 and other side bets have taken over the blackjack landscape. It brings in a high proportion of unskilled novice players that wreak havoc on the table because they are more concerned with their 9 to 1 side bet than actually knowing how to play technically sound blackjack that only pays off for them with even money.
Still, every once in awhile you'll luck into a table full of OGs, where everyone is masterfully playing basic strategy coupled with a hybrid/negative/positive progression betting strategy. No side bets or carnival game players. No card counters allowed. No jackwagons that randomly sit out a hand or start playing 2 hands because "somebody needs to change things up". No! No! And No! They have to be Cory Hart fans - Never Surrender! Deep pockets, so they're not caught short or choking all over themselves like Trouty in a pressure situation when they need to split 8s four times against a 10. Play the cards as they come, with precision, with confidence. No fear. Stack those chips and count that money!
Interesting story, and just a few quick points because i think the OP would prefer to keep the thread posts about sports, and I know the moderators would. LOL
Firstly, around a hundred years ago, casinos used to offer pinball machines as a form of gambling in their venues. When players became so good, the players could beat the machines even when the casinos would raise the points total for a cash-out. So the casinos simply stopped offering pinball machines for wagering. Proof that casinos are not about to allow a game of skill under their roof whereby a sharp player could consistently make withdrawals and win money.
The only exception is poker, whereby the casinos act as simply a dealer, and the players compete among themselves. As you likely know, the casinos rake the pots, and that's how the casinos profit from poker. Frankly at a casino, low stakes poker is unbeatable for reasons I'm not going to discuss in this thread. However at high enough stakes, if the opposition is soft enough, a sharp player can make money, of course winning it against the weaker players, not the casino. I enjoy watching some of the "live" poker shows on YouTube, and it's obvious and fact that a superb poker player such as Garrett Adelstein and others, can and do make a lot of money playing high stakes poker at casinos.
As far as blackjack, yes there can be times during a shoe, and it's certainly not common, whereby a player could have a very slight edge over the dealer. However the basic dilemma is a player must play at a table for many hours, days, or whatever and play at the table whereby the odds are not in his favor. Constantly losing money to finally get to that favorable spot in a shoe. And then still needs some luck to win, as the player edge is very slight. The casinos of course know all of this, and many years ago capped the wagering amounts so that a sharp player, finally getting a favorable shoe, couldn't Martingale the casino with odds in the player's favor. The player along with some good luck, could win some money during that time in the shoe. But usually the time is short, and with the bets capped, he can't in the long run make enough money during that time to account for the losses previously mentioned.
Bottom line, if blackjack were truly a game of skill whereby sharp players could make money against the casino, the casinos would have simply stopped offering blackjack as they did the pinball machines.
i don't trust my team
prove me wrong boys
-2799.29
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
i dont have a feel for this game
going with what i want to happen
-2743.73
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
When in doubt… follow your nose.
-2793.43
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Parlay #1:Dallas ML,Minn/GB over 43.5,Lions ML.
you are correct. never bet with your heart. when i was perusing the afternoon wave from the golf tournament my nose said Ravens and my heart said Cardinals. i deserved to lose that one.
i underestimated just how horrendous Cincinnati's D is. they are an unmitigated disaster -- didn't force a turnover or punt last night. first time since 1940 that Washington had pulled that off in a game. they made Jayden Daniels look like Sonny Jurgensen.
i don't like Dak and i hate Dallas, but i'm thinking about the Cowboys' money line as well. this game on Thursday is basically their season. go look at their schedule -- they could conceivably lose the next 5 games after the Giants. i felt strongly about the Cowboys sucking this season, but this could get very ugly, very quickly
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Lost $180 for weekend
Way too many bets to screenshot
Zero highlights
The Giants- Dallas game is tough to call. The Giants don’t like teams that play defense, so they’re in luck this Thursday. Will the Giants be able to hang with the Cowboys. They shouldn’t be, but one bad bounce and there goes your bet. Good luck.
I had a couple losing bets….long shot parlays that I didn’t throw much money on. Probably sit out next weekend, maybe it’s just me but looks like there could be a lot of close matchups
I like the under,45, this Thursday in the Dal/Giants game. Not sure will chase it, but if play it would be that. See 23-17 or 23-13 Boys.
Tough call on tonight's game. I always root for the Cowboys to lose. And it does seem like they may be ready to collapse. But the bookies are calling it at -6 for the Cowboys on a road game.
As we all know, bookies normally don't give money away. Perhaps the bookies feel that getting out of Dallas for a road game, might actually help the Cowboys, as they can get away from boos from their fans?
Despite the win last week on the road, the Giants are still second to the bottom at 300-1 odds to win the Super Bowl. I guess the bookies are figuring the Giants are so bad, that even a "depressed" Cowboys team can beat them by a touchdown? We shall see.
This was a very good read btw
It's lunacy on paper
Cowboys -6 against the Giants??
Got trap game written all over it
If I was forced to wager I'd take the Boys laying 6 but I would not feel like I was in for a sweat free wager
I'm going to sit this one out fellas
i wish it wasn't a mutually exclusive event, but unfortunately the Boys winning for bluejay and the Boys getting thoroughly humiliated for me can't both happen
so I'll simply root for anyone who has some coin on this game🤙
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
I knew when I liked the under, 45, and did not put a bet in it would go under. Sometimes one is a better picker than bettor.
Thank you for your support. Never can have enough karma.