THE ~ Never Ending ~ Indian Head Cent ~ Thread!

jfriedm56 · February 23, 2024 4:34AM

@winesteven, wonderful early proof Steve. You always show the best!

justindan · February 23, 2024 4:47AM

Coingeek · February 23, 2024 6:26AM

Estil · February 23, 2024 7:03AM

@rnkmyer1 said:
Any of us “older” collectors remember Jefferson Airplane. This one reminds me of being at one of their shows. Although the memory is cloudy!

You mean like this show? Of course this was way more than just a mere "show"...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_gg6JNLtXI
I can't even begin to tell you guys how super nice that YouTube and other placers are like a real life time machine...we can relive most any era we want with the point and click of a mouse, something like this wasn't even dreamed of 20 years ago. Of course if I could time travel and go to only one concert it'd be this one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nirrjii5cc
As the late Joe Diffie would say, they got cute girls that make them way bigger and better than the Beatles!

winesteven · February 23, 2024 9:12PM

In mid-November, I bought at GC one of Stewart Blay’s famed IHC’s. @ianrussell was kind enough to send the coin to PCGS after the auction to reholder with a TrueView and a new label showing the Stewart Blay pedigree, and once returned to GC, he then sent it back to CAC to automatically resticker, as the cert number remained the same. He charged me only for his actual costs, which was so very fair!

Once I had the coin, I then sent it to Rick Snow to try to get his Eagle Eye Photo Seal. To no surprise, that succeeded.

Steve

asheland · February 24, 2024 4:55PM

@winesteven said:
In mid-November, I bought at GC one of Stewart Blay’s famed IHC’s. @ianrussell was kind enough to send the coin to PCGS after the auction to reholder with a TrueView and a new label showing the Stewart Blay pedigree, and once returned to GC, he then sent it back to CAC to automatically resticker, as the cert number remained the same. He charged me only for his actual costs, which was so very fair!

Once I had the coin, I then sent it to Rick Snow to try to get his Eagle Eye Photo Seal. To no surprise, that succeeded.

Steve

Excellent!

BLUEJAYWAY · February 24, 2024 7:19PM

@rnkmyer1 said:
Blazing luster on this double stickered GEM

The marks across the cheek almost resemble a war paint look.

winesteven · February 24, 2024 8:18PM

Here’s the third of my upgrades from mid-November to the present. OGH, CAC Pop = 24, Snow PDS Score = 15 (5,5,5):

Steve

winesteven · February 26, 2024 5:00AM

Here’s the next-to-last of my recent upgrades since mid-November. CAC Pop = 10, Snow PDS Score = 15 (5,5,5). The luster on the coin in hand is a super blazer, similar to what one sees on many red IHC’s from the 1900’s, but not on red Indians from the 1860’s:

Steve

jfriedm56 · February 26, 2024 5:07AM

@winesteven, off the charts Steve.

McMiserton · February 26, 2024 8:17AM

I posted these the "new coins" thread, but Indian Head it is!

Unslabbed. No idea if I should send it off for grading. I would like to preserve the red long term though.

winesteven · February 26, 2024 11:27PM

Oops, I goofed early this morning in my post slightly above when I said that was my next-to-last upgrade since mid-November. There are actually two more, and here’s one of them:

There are 53 in this grade (34 by PCGS and 19 by NGC), but only 3 have a CAC sticker! The Snow PDS Score = 15 (5,5,5).

Steve

sedulous · February 27, 2024 2:00AM

@asheland said:

@rnkmyer1 said:
Ultra Rarity. I never thought I would own one of these. In the PCGS pop, there’s one 62BN, then next is this XF45. The die gouge on the reverse looks like a failed lab experiment that was kept anyway for posterity. It runs over & under the shield bars & also over & under through the leaves before ending at 3:00 near the rim. Date is also repunched. Tips are full & surfaces not overly marked up.

Very cool and a great looking example! 👍

Which DDO version is this one? Notice the recut U in UNITED and more... Reposting here as I didn't see a new IHC thread was started since early last year:

Tim

asheland · February 27, 2024 9:24PM

@sedulous said:

@asheland said:

@rnkmyer1 said:
Ultra Rarity. I never thought I would own one of these. In the PCGS pop, there’s one 62BN, then next is this XF45. The die gouge on the reverse looks like a failed lab experiment that was kept anyway for posterity. It runs over & under the shield bars & also over & under through the leaves before ending at 3:00 near the rim. Date is also repunched. Tips are full & surfaces not overly marked up.

Very cool and a great looking example! 👍

Which DDO version is this one? Notice the recut U in UNITED and more... Reposting here as I didn't see a new IHC thread was started since early last year:

Tim

I am not sure on that variety unfortunately, there’s got to be someone on here that’s more knowledgeable with the varieties.

winesteven · February 28, 2024 2:43AM

Here’s the last of my upgrades since mid-November.

There are 69 in this grade (50 by PCGS and 19 by NGC). CAC Pop only 7. Snow PDS Score = 14 (4,5,5).

Steve

asheland · February 28, 2024 5:17PM

@winesteven said:
Here’s the last of my upgrades since mid-November.

There are 69 in this grade (50 by PCGS and 19 by NGC). CAC Pop only 7. Snow PDS Score = 14 (4,5,5).

Steve

Spectacular!

AndyK · February 28, 2024 9:37PM

Rather hard to follow @winesteven and some of these other amazing Indians - here's my best attempt to keep up

winesteven · February 29, 2024 5:18AM

Hey, @AndyK , that’s a gorgeous coin! AND it merits an Eagle Eye Photo Seal!!!!

Regardless of grade, I see coins as “works of art”, and each coin, often 100 years old or so, should be appreciated. Each collector rightfully should be very proud of the coins they own, and feel pleasure from their coins, regardless of their budget!

Steve

Ppp · February 29, 2024 5:42AM

I posted this in a separate thread late last year.
I really don’t collect IHC but I couldn’t resist picking this coin up. I am sure it will find a new home this year. 🙂

AndyK · February 29, 2024 7:35AM

@winesteven said:
Hey, @AndyK , that’s a gorgeous coin! AND it merits an Eagle Eye Photo Seal!!!!

Regardless of grade, I see coins as “works of art”, and each coin, often 100 years old or so, should be appreciated. Each collector rightfully should be very proud of the coins they own, and feel pleasure from their coins, regardless of their budget!

Steve

I completely agree with @winesteven. I feel both proud and blessed that I'm able to own such a cool piece of history. The coin is amazing and has everything I was ever hoping for in my key date piece. High grade, amazing eye appeal, a 90% red coin in a RB holder, an old green holder, and it's a far more affordable proof.
I just had to poke a little fun as I do consider your Indian collection to be the "gold standard". I'm always smitten at the beautiful coins in your collection (and several others here). Since I'm very competitive by nature, I simply choose for your collection to be the yardstick I hope to measure up to. Heck, if I'm going to dream, dream big!

winesteven · February 29, 2024 10:20AM

@AndyK , your words are so VERY kind.

Thank you!

Steve

rnkmyer1 · March 1, 2024 10:41AM

@sedulous
@asheland

I don’t believe there’s a designated variety for that coin (the 1868). Could it be a “discovery”?
Ken

rnkmyer1 · March 26, 2024 3:37PM

NEWP today:

Fabulous eye appeal & great color besides!

rnkmyer1 · March 26, 2024 4:54PM

Yet another NEWP:

winesteven · March 26, 2024 6:47PM

Hey, have you taken a look at the new #1 Greatest IHC set of all time? Alan L. Epstein has put together a mind-blowing set - higher scoring than Stewart Blay’s famous set, even higher scoring than the Jasper Mantooth set!

https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/half-cents/indian-cents-major-sets/indian-cents-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1859-1909/alltimeset/359908

I read that back in the early 1990’s, Dr. Epstein had put together the best quality IHC set known at that time (without the help of today’s computers, internet, and Registries, admittedly 30 years ago we didn’t know everything). He sold his set to Rick Snow around 1995, but kept for himself the highest graded Indian Head cent of ALL TIME graded by PCGS - the 1899 IHC graded MS68RD. While the PCGS pop reports show a pop of two of those, PCGS has stated that they strongly believe it’s a dupe of the same coin. No other IHC of ANY date has ever been graded that high by PCGS! Alan then sold that coin in auction in the early 2000’s.

At some point he apparently started from scratch, and has put together his amazing set that we see today! By the way, in this set his 1899 is graded MS67+RD.

Kudos to Alan L. Epstein! I wish him congratulations and the greatest joy in the world with this set!

Steve

rnkmyer1 · March 26, 2024 7:59PM

Thanks for the heads-up; somehow I missed that. Must have been in the last few days. I’ll be sure to check it out. He was/is one of the best ever!

rnkmyer1 · March 27, 2024 12:34PM

Won this one today in the SB auction. A real beauty & a pop 1/0 besides:

Good price too - winner winner! (chicken dinner?)

rnkmyer1 · March 27, 2024 12:36PM

Referring all IHC collectors to the link in winesteven’s post above. Be sure to wipe off the drool when you’re finished looking at it!

crazyhounddog · March 27, 2024 2:16PM

Only 600 minted.

crazyhounddog · March 27, 2024 4:14PM

@rnkmyer1 said:
Won this one today in the SB auction. A real beauty & a pop 1/0 besides:

Good price too - winner winner! (chicken dinner?)

VERY nice👌

asheland · March 30, 2024 6:16PM

Great coins!

winesteven · April 24, 2024 10:56PM

Here’s my newp that upgrades my former 65+RD. This new one - PCGS Pop = 11, with only 6 finer:

Steve

robec · April 25, 2024 8:12AM

lcoopie · April 26, 2024 2:59AM

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