The 2023-2024 NFL Playoffs Discussion

Maywood · January 21, 2024 4:03PM

What a good, entertaining and competitive game. It looks like the ability to run the football will salt this one away and set-up an interesting NFC showdown between two teams who are pretty well rounded: good defense, good passing game and good running game.

BillJones · January 21, 2024 4:03PM

@Steven59 said:
I don't know about that trying for 2 points - now the Bucs are down by 8.

It was a bad move IMO, but the defense can’t get the ball back anyway.

Steven59 · January 21, 2024 4:11PM

Hmmmmmmm......same ending for the Bucs as it was for the Packers.

Basebal21 · January 21, 2024 4:12PM

Tampa just made too many mistakes early. They had multiple changes at the start to build a lead and didnt. Their Oline is just not good either. Good season for Tampa for getting to where they did with what they had

Lions are going to need to play better

perkdog · January 21, 2024 4:28PM

@Steven59 said:
Hmmmmmmm......same ending for the Bucs as it was for the Packers.

An ill advised throw.

Absolutely no excuse for either throw, period

perkdog · January 21, 2024 6:03PM

Bills and KC great game so far!!!!

Basebal21 · January 21, 2024 6:09PM

@perkdog said:

@Steven59 said:
Hmmmmmmm......same ending for the Bucs as it was for the Packers.

An ill advised throw.

Absolutely no excuse for either throw, period

The Baker last pick really wasnt a no excuse throw. He tried to force something or took a little to long. The Love throw was a cross body middle of the field floater. I know its easy to hate on Baker, but they didnt lose that game because of him.

perkdog · January 21, 2024 6:32PM

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Steven59 said:
Hmmmmmmm......same ending for the Bucs as it was for the Packers.

An ill advised throw.

Absolutely no excuse for either throw, period

The Baker last pick really wasnt a no excuse throw. He tried to force something or took a little to long. The Love throw was a cross body middle of the field floater. I know its easy to hate on Baker, but they didnt lose that game because of him.

I never said they did lose because of Baker but your not going to make a claim that Bakers last pass was in any way a good decision, that was on him 100%

Basebal21 · January 21, 2024 6:41PM

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Steven59 said:
Hmmmmmmm......same ending for the Bucs as it was for the Packers.

An ill advised throw.

Absolutely no excuse for either throw, period

The Baker last pick really wasnt a no excuse throw. He tried to force something or took a little to long. The Love throw was a cross body middle of the field floater. I know its easy to hate on Baker, but they didnt lose that game because of him.

I never said they did lose because of Baker but your not going to make a claim that Bakers last pass was in any way a good decision, that was on him 100%

It wasnt great but by no means was it inexcusable.

perkdog · January 21, 2024 6:43PM

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Steven59 said:
Hmmmmmmm......same ending for the Bucs as it was for the Packers.

An ill advised throw.

Absolutely no excuse for either throw, period

The Baker last pick really wasnt a no excuse throw. He tried to force something or took a little to long. The Love throw was a cross body middle of the field floater. I know its easy to hate on Baker, but they didnt lose that game because of him.

I never said they did lose because of Baker but your not going to make a claim that Bakers last pass was in any way a good decision, that was on him 100%

It wasnt great but by no means was it inexcusable.

I'm just not sure what the upside was, throwing it into the middle of the field with multiple defenders in front of the receiver

The bigger point of the argument is that it wasn't necessary for him to throw it at all, there was plenty of time on the clock

Basebal21 · January 21, 2024 6:49PM

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Steven59 said:
Hmmmmmmm......same ending for the Bucs as it was for the Packers.

An ill advised throw.

Absolutely no excuse for either throw, period

The Baker last pick really wasnt a no excuse throw. He tried to force something or took a little to long. The Love throw was a cross body middle of the field floater. I know its easy to hate on Baker, but they didnt lose that game because of him.

I never said they did lose because of Baker but your not going to make a claim that Bakers last pass was in any way a good decision, that was on him 100%

It wasnt great but by no means was it inexcusable.

I'm just not sure what the upside was, throwing it into the middle of the field with multiple defenders in front of the receiver

There was a bunch of pressure and was about to be sacked. He really didnt have time to look around and would guess he just went to his first target not wanting to get sacked immediately again

BillJones · January 21, 2024 6:52PM

Buffalo can’t play defense. Looking forward to next week, Baltimore can.

It will harder for Kansas City next week.

perkdog · January 21, 2024 7:00PM

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Steven59 said:
Hmmmmmmm......same ending for the Bucs as it was for the Packers.

An ill advised throw.

Absolutely no excuse for either throw, period

The Baker last pick really wasnt a no excuse throw. He tried to force something or took a little to long. The Love throw was a cross body middle of the field floater. I know its easy to hate on Baker, but they didnt lose that game because of him.

I never said they did lose because of Baker but your not going to make a claim that Bakers last pass was in any way a good decision, that was on him 100%

It wasnt great but by no means was it inexcusable.

I'm just not sure what the upside was, throwing it into the middle of the field with multiple defenders in front of the receiver

There was a bunch of pressure and was about to be sacked. He really didnt have time to look around and would guess he just went to his first target not wanting to get sacked immediately again

I can't remember if he was out of the pocket or not but regardless a sack would have been a better option than an interception,

perkdog · January 21, 2024 7:00PM

@BillJones said:
Buffalo can’t play defense. Looking forward to next week, Baltimore can.

It will harder for Kansas City next week.

Buffalo is not done scoring and it's only 3 points separating these teams so both D's are doing the same

galaxy27 · January 21, 2024 7:09PM

Pacheco is running like a beast and Reid gets cute with Hardman near the goal line

sheer stupidity

Basebal21 · January 21, 2024 7:17PM

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Steven59 said:
Hmmmmmmm......same ending for the Bucs as it was for the Packers.

An ill advised throw.

Absolutely no excuse for either throw, period

The Baker last pick really wasnt a no excuse throw. He tried to force something or took a little to long. The Love throw was a cross body middle of the field floater. I know its easy to hate on Baker, but they didnt lose that game because of him.

I never said they did lose because of Baker but your not going to make a claim that Bakers last pass was in any way a good decision, that was on him 100%

It wasnt great but by no means was it inexcusable.

I'm just not sure what the upside was, throwing it into the middle of the field with multiple defenders in front of the receiver

There was a bunch of pressure and was about to be sacked. He really didnt have time to look around and would guess he just went to his first target not wanting to get sacked immediately again

I can't remember if he was out of the pocket or not but regardless a sack would have been a better option than an interception,

He was straight back with a huge rush coming at him

perkdog · January 21, 2024 7:19PM

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Steven59 said:
Hmmmmmmm......same ending for the Bucs as it was for the Packers.

An ill advised throw.

Absolutely no excuse for either throw, period

The Baker last pick really wasnt a no excuse throw. He tried to force something or took a little to long. The Love throw was a cross body middle of the field floater. I know its easy to hate on Baker, but they didnt lose that game because of him.

I never said they did lose because of Baker but your not going to make a claim that Bakers last pass was in any way a good decision, that was on him 100%

It wasnt great but by no means was it inexcusable.

I'm just not sure what the upside was, throwing it into the middle of the field with multiple defenders in front of the receiver

There was a bunch of pressure and was about to be sacked. He really didnt have time to look around and would guess he just went to his first target not wanting to get sacked immediately again

I can't remember if he was out of the pocket or not but regardless a sack would have been a better option than an interception,

He was straight back with a huge rush coming at him

Ok, had he taken the sack the game would have gone on

Basebal21 · January 21, 2024 7:20PM

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Steven59 said:
Hmmmmmmm......same ending for the Bucs as it was for the Packers.

An ill advised throw.

Absolutely no excuse for either throw, period

The Baker last pick really wasnt a no excuse throw. He tried to force something or took a little to long. The Love throw was a cross body middle of the field floater. I know its easy to hate on Baker, but they didnt lose that game because of him.

I never said they did lose because of Baker but your not going to make a claim that Bakers last pass was in any way a good decision, that was on him 100%

It wasnt great but by no means was it inexcusable.

I'm just not sure what the upside was, throwing it into the middle of the field with multiple defenders in front of the receiver

There was a bunch of pressure and was about to be sacked. He really didnt have time to look around and would guess he just went to his first target not wanting to get sacked immediately again

I can't remember if he was out of the pocket or not but regardless a sack would have been a better option than an interception,

He was straight back with a huge rush coming at him

Ok, had he taken the sack the game would have gone on

https://twitter.com/thecomeback/status/1749208530157211981?

perkdog · January 21, 2024 7:37PM

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Steven59 said:
Hmmmmmmm......same ending for the Bucs as it was for the Packers.

An ill advised throw.

Absolutely no excuse for either throw, period

The Baker last pick really wasnt a no excuse throw. He tried to force something or took a little to long. The Love throw was a cross body middle of the field floater. I know its easy to hate on Baker, but they didnt lose that game because of him.

I never said they did lose because of Baker but your not going to make a claim that Bakers last pass was in any way a good decision, that was on him 100%

It wasnt great but by no means was it inexcusable.

I'm just not sure what the upside was, throwing it into the middle of the field with multiple defenders in front of the receiver

There was a bunch of pressure and was about to be sacked. He really didnt have time to look around and would guess he just went to his first target not wanting to get sacked immediately again

I can't remember if he was out of the pocket or not but regardless a sack would have been a better option than an interception,

He was straight back with a huge rush coming at him

Ok, had he taken the sack the game would have gone on

https://twitter.com/thecomeback/status/1749208530157211981?

Definitely not as bad as Love's pass, I will give you that

BLUEJAYWAY · January 21, 2024 7:39PM

Wide right. Deja Vu all over again

perkdog · January 21, 2024 7:41PM

@perkdog said:

@BillJones said:
Buffalo can’t play defense. Looking forward to next week, Baltimore can.

It will harder for Kansas City next week.

Buffalo is not done scoring and it's only 3 points separating these teams so both D's are doing the same

Looks like I was wrong

Buffalo didn't score again

Desert Moon · January 21, 2024 7:41PM

Ouch thats gotta hurt - not a long field goal........

perkdog · January 21, 2024 7:41PM

@BLUEJAYWAY said:
Wide right. Deja Vu all over again

I genuinely feel bad for Buffalo

Basebal21 · January 21, 2024 7:42PM

Buffalo blew that. The drops and their kicker cant seem to kick anything straight

Desert Moon · January 21, 2024 7:43PM

Looks like we have:

Purdy-Goff
Mahomes-Jackson

next week, probably the best 4 qbs this year. Will be interesting to watch.

BillJones · January 21, 2024 7:44PM

@perkdog said:

@BLUEJAYWAY said:
Wide right. Deja Vu all over again

I genuinely feel bad for Buffalo

I feel bad for their fans. I don’t feel badly for the players, the coaches or the management. They are not winners. They play, coach and manage stupid.

Desert Moon · January 21, 2024 7:44PM

One Kelce down, the other gets the girl...............

Basebal21 · January 21, 2024 7:45PM

Whoever wins the AFC will win it all

Desert Moon · January 21, 2024 7:45PM

Buffalo fans are equal to the best out there, gotta feel for them as Bill says.

Desert Moon · January 21, 2024 7:46PM

@Basebal21 said:
Whoever wins the AFC will win it all

Probably, but you just never know..........

perkdog · January 21, 2024 7:46PM

Congratulations @Darin

Sorry @2dueces

perkdog · January 21, 2024 7:47PM

@spacehayduke said:
Buffalo fans are equal to the best out there, gotta feel for them as Bill says.

I really feel.for them

BLUEJAYWAY · January 21, 2024 7:48PM

@galaxy27 said:
Pacheco is running like a beast and Reid gets cute with Hardman near the goal line

sheer stupidity

That would of iced the game at that point if he had not tried to stretch his arm with the ball.ovrr the goal line. They still had downs to go.

Desert Moon · January 21, 2024 7:48PM

@perkdog said:

@spacehayduke said:
Buffalo fans are equal to the best out there, gotta feel for them as Bill says.

I really feel.for them

Do they have any more peak years with this lineup?

Basebal21 · January 21, 2024 7:51PM

@spacehayduke said:

@Basebal21 said:
Whoever wins the AFC will win it all

Probably, but you just never know..........

Two best QBs left by far are Malhomes and Jackson but true you never know. Baltimore is certainly the favorite at this point

Basebal21 · January 21, 2024 7:52PM

@spacehayduke said:

@perkdog said:

@spacehayduke said:
Buffalo fans are equal to the best out there, gotta feel for them as Bill says.

I really feel.for them

Do they have any more peak years with this lineup?

They have a few left with Allen. They basically had no linebackers from injury and got this far

Darin · January 21, 2024 7:53PM

@galaxy27 said:
Pacheco is running like a beast and Reid gets cute with Hardman near the goal line

sheer stupidity

Yep!
Stupidest play call of the game.
Can’t believe KC survived that and still won! 🍺🍺

galaxy27 · January 21, 2024 7:53PM

@BLUEJAYWAY said:

@galaxy27 said:
Pacheco is running like a beast and Reid gets cute with Hardman near the goal line

sheer stupidity

That would of iced the game at that point if he had not tried to stretch his arm with the ball.ovrr the goal line. They still had downs to go.

Andy Reid would have owed the Chiefs' fan base an apology if they had lost that game

hand the ball to that tasmanian devil Pacheco, go up 10 and bury the Bills. nah, how about we get really cute and dial up an end around with a wide receiver who never touches the ball instead.

i went to twitter after that play and Chiefs' fans were coming unglued

usually you pull stunts like that and you get what you deserve. they survived their head coach's idiocy

perkdog · January 21, 2024 7:54PM

@spacehayduke said:

@perkdog said:

@spacehayduke said:
Buffalo fans are equal to the best out there, gotta feel for them as Bill says.

I really feel.for them

Do they have any more peak years with this lineup?

They need another WR and some healthy DB's

I think they still have some gas left in the tank, obviously Allen is in his prime

BillJones · January 21, 2024 7:54PM

@spacehayduke said:
Looks like we have:

Purdy-Goff
Mahomes-Jackson

next week, probably the best 4 qbs this year. Will be interesting to watch.

This will be Jackson’s time to prove if he is for real or just hype. The Baltimore defense will give him a chance unlike the support Josh Allen got.

Desert Moon · January 21, 2024 7:55PM

@Basebal21 said:

@spacehayduke said:

@Basebal21 said:
Whoever wins the AFC will win it all

Probably, but you just never know..........

Two best QBs left by far are Malhomes and Jackson but true you never know. Baltimore is certainly the favorite at this point

Well not according to the Season stats, Mahomes was in like 9th in rating, but his playoff experience trumps the reg season performance. No matter AFC champ will be the fave in the SB.

Darin · January 21, 2024 7:56PM

@perkdog said:
Congratulations @Darin

Sorry @2dueces

Thanks perk.
I do feel bad for deuces, he’s a diehard Bills fan and I have nothing but respect for him.

Basebal21 · January 21, 2024 7:58PM

@spacehayduke said:

@Basebal21 said:

@spacehayduke said:

@Basebal21 said:
Whoever wins the AFC will win it all

Probably, but you just never know..........

Two best QBs left by far are Malhomes and Jackson but true you never know. Baltimore is certainly the favorite at this point

Well not according to the Season stats, Mahomes was in like 9th in rating, but his playoff experience trumps the reg season performance. No matter AFC champ will be the fave in the SB.

Malhomes WR core is not good. The fact that hes made anything out of them speaks to his talent. Kelce is his only real threat

BLUEJAYWAY · January 21, 2024 8:02PM

@perkdog said:

@spacehayduke said:
Buffalo fans are equal to the best out there, gotta feel for them as Bill says.

I really feel.for them

I feel sorry for New York State taxpayers who are on the hook for $850 million for the new Bills stadium.

perkdog · January 21, 2024 8:03PM

@BLUEJAYWAY said:

@perkdog said:

@spacehayduke said:
Buffalo fans are equal to the best out there, gotta feel for them as Bill says.

I really feel.for them

I feel sorry for New York State taxpayers who are on the hook for $850 million for the new Bills stadium.

And they can't get a Super Bowl win either

galaxy27 · January 21, 2024 8:06PM

btw i remember a day when Stefon Diggs was one of the most feared receivers in the league. nothing about him should scare anyone anymore. just another dude out there

horrible drop on that rocket launch from Allen

perkdog · January 21, 2024 8:08PM

@galaxy27 said:
btw i remember a day when Stefon Diggs was one of the most feared receivers in the league. nothing about him should scare anyone anymore. just another dude out there

horrible drop on that rocket launch from Allen

Notice he wasn't on the bench pissing and moaning this time

Darin · January 21, 2024 8:12PM

I can’t believe KC came away with the win after the Hardman fumble and the Josh Allen fumble the Chiefs should have recovered. Usually you don’t dodge 2 bullets like that.
Nice that we had the best kicker! 🥳

Desert Moon · January 21, 2024 8:17PM

@Darin said:
I can’t believe KC came away with the win after the Hardman fumble and the Josh Allen fumble the Chiefs should have recovered. Usually you don’t dodge 2 bullets like that.
Nice that we had the best kicker! 🥳

Missing a 44 yarder at the end of the game to tie is not a good look, these days that should be made >90% of the time, won't be a happy off season for the Bills kicker.............

Basebal21 · January 21, 2024 8:20PM

@galaxy27 said:
btw i remember a day when Stefon Diggs was one of the most feared receivers in the league. nothing about him should scare anyone anymore. just another dude out there

horrible drop on that rocket launch from Allen

Chiefs lead the league in drops as one of only 2 teams with over 40 drops but Diggs was tied for 6th with several others. Might be time for Buffalo to look around at moving him especially now that hes going to be on the wrong side of 30

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