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1919 Mercury Dime - CONFIRMED: DDO Discovery Piece (Census in 1st post)

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    don't know if it has been posted but some nice technical info for this elusive and belatedly discovered ddo:

    https://conecaonline.org/major-doubled-die-error-found-on-1919-mercury-dime/

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    don't know if it has been posted but some nice technical info for this elusive and belatedly discovered ddo:

    https://conecaonline.org/major-doubled-die-error-found-on-1919-mercury-dime/

    Is there anybody here from CONECA that can get this edited? I see that my first two paragraphs are somehow duplicated.
    TD

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 8, 2023 5:08PM
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  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 4, 2023 8:26AM

    Few new ones in the censuses - anybody find new ones or regrade old ones, or have any info on these?

    NEW:
    PCGS AG-3
    PCGS G-4
    NGC VF

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  • Shane6596Shane6596 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have this loose 1919 P, only pic i have until i get back from travel. Hard to tell, but maybe? Thoughts?

    Don't mind the overmarks from when i was editing the background out.

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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Shane6596
    I dont see anything to suggest the ddo on your coin

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Shane6596 That is not the DDO.

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  • Shane6596Shane6596 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    @Shane6596 That is not the DDO.

    Yeah, after comparing it more, it's not. Thanks.

    I was unaware of this ddo until now, ill keep an eye out for one, slim chance but never know.

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  • @StrikeOutXXX said:
    Few new ones in the censuses - anybody find new ones or regrade old ones, or have any info on these?

    NEW:
    PCGS AG-3
    PCGS G-4
    NGC VF

    The two PCGS ones are the ones I found. The other two went “details”.

    I searched 850 more 1919 P dimes since then, and I found a fifth DDO.

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/so-just-how-rare-is-the-1919-ddo-dime-part-ii.403773/#post-22913593

    Based on this purely random unsearched distribution, one can conclude that about 1 in 500 1919 P dimes in existence is a DDO.

  • kuwegg57kuwegg57 Posts: 107 ✭✭✭

    Will the 1919 be the "Star" of the newest issue of the Cherrypickers Guide?

  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @kuwegg57 said:
    Will the 1919 be the "Star" of the newest issue of the Cherrypickers Guide?

    It’s on the cover but with it being such old news I can’t see it driving much additional interest beyond what it has already done over many years. For those living under a rock, maybe?

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  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool thread!

  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've been slacking - 6 sold in the last 5 or so weeks. Wonder if the CPG coming out is helping...

    (45) PCGS FR-2 (B) - $1,495.00 (9/6/23 eBay - Buy It Now)
    (47) PCGS AG-3 (B) - $1,895 (9/5/23 eBay Buy it Now)
    (44) PCGS FR-2 - $1,295 (9/2/23 eBay - Buy It Now)
    (46) PCGS AG-3 - $1,495.00 (9/1/23 eBay - Buy It Now)
    (42) PCGS AG3 - $1,395 (8/23/22 eBay - Buy It Now)
    (51) PCGS G4 - $2,995 (7/31/23 eBay Buy It Now)

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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,210 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good lord, those are some strong prices for lowball coins.
    Really speaks to the popularity of the variety. Doesn't seem to be trailing off as more are found.

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  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    Good lord, those are some strong prices for lowball coins.
    Really speaks to the popularity of the variety. Doesn't seem to be trailing off as more are found.

    No, the prices have stayed fairly constant in the 8 years. There was a very slight lull on the AG-3 pieces early on, I think many were waiting for higher grades, but as very few higher ones show up, folks who truly want one are having to settle and pay solid prices for the FR, AG, Good ones.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is a piece on eBay straight graded as Good-4 but it has severe tooling on the Y of LIBERTY. Can't pick it out of the census but might be one of the Good-4's listed there.

    Seems to have some sort of unofficial Buy It Now at bottom of listing at $1797

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  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is 51 in the census, last sold a year ago on eBay.

    51) PCGS G4 - eBay 6/2023 seller jjcoin - Sold 7/31/23 (eBay $2,995 Buy It Now)
    Cert: 545047.04/46140106
    Stage A

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    Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
  • ShurkeShurke Posts: 324 ✭✭✭✭

    That’s strong money for a coin that probably should be in a details holder.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hmmmmm.....all of that seller's listings have disappeared. I had bid on a couple of them just as placeholders, and I got a notice from eBay that one of them was no longer available because of a problem with the seller's account. Now, that may have been the back door Buy It Now he was offering down in the description to avoid paying fees. Ebay would definitely consider that to be a problem!

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @StrikeOutXXX said:
    It is 51 in the census, last sold a year ago on eBay.

    51) PCGS G4 - eBay 6/2023 seller jjcoin - Sold 7/31/23 (eBay $2,995 Buy It Now)
    Cert: 545047.04/46140106
    Stage A

    You might want to add a comment to the listing for #51 there there is heavy tooling at the Y of LIBERTY.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to believe it's been over nine years since you discovered this variety.
    And still no Mint State specimen!

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,059 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Hard to believe it's been over nine years since you discovered this variety.
    And still no Mint State specimen!

    .... and over 90 years before 'discovery'. +++

  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 18, 2024 6:08AM

    @TypeCoin971793 said:
    Found one more. This is the sixth I’ve found, and the seventh I’ve handled

    This one will be coin 54 in the census. I'll call it a raw AG for now. I think you've passed KearneyCC who had found several in past years to become the new 1919 DDO Eagle Eye.

    There is also a new PCGS F15 in their census (now coin 53) - anyone have info on that one?

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  • TypeCoin971793TypeCoin971793 Posts: 4
    edited June 18, 2024 7:09AM

    @StrikeOutXXX said:
    I think you've passed KearneyCC who had found several in past years to become the new 1919 DDO Eagle Eye.

    I’ve also found 5 of the 10 known 1926 DDO dimes. The current census for that is:

    ANACS MS60 Details (Discovery coin)
    PCGS AU53 (Unattributed, 45596215, found by Shurke)
    PCGS VF30 (My find, sold for $2500)
    PCGS VF30 (My find)
    NGC VF30
    NGC F15
    NGC VG10 (sold for ~$800 iirc)
    PCGS VG8 (My find)
    PCGS G6 (My find)
    PCGS G6 (My find)

  • ShurkeShurke Posts: 324 ✭✭✭✭

    Wow, you’ve been busy, @TypeCoin971793! Thanks for that 1926 DDO census. I’ve been keeping track of the ones I’ve seen, but I wasn’t aware of about half of them.

  • MtW124MtW124 Posts: 400 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 18, 2024 8:27AM

    @TypeCoin971793 said:

    @StrikeOutXXX said:
    I think you've passed KearneyCC who had found several in past years to become the new 1919 DDO Eagle Eye.

    I’ve also found 5 of the 10 known 1926 DDO dimes. The current census for that is:

    ANACS MS60 Details (Discovery coin)
    PCGS AU53 (Unattributed, 45596215, found by Shurke)
    PCGS VF30 (My find, sold for $2500)
    PCGS VF30 (My find)
    NGC VF30
    NGC F15
    NGC VG10 (sold for ~$800 iirc)
    PCGS VG8 (My find)
    PCGS G6 (My find)
    PCGS G6 (My find)

    I went through all of my 1919’s and nothing but going through my dads blue Whitman book from 60 years ago in Feb of last year, he had a 1926 DDO-001 hidden in there. Had it sent into ANACS and it came back 06. I’m guessing I will have to pay the price for a 1919 DDO already encapsulated. 5352406 is the anacs #

  • @Shurke said:
    Wow, you’ve been busy, @TypeCoin971793! Thanks for that 1926 DDO census. I’ve been keeping track of the ones I’ve seen, but I wasn’t aware of about half of them.

    My job is to process bulk coins and pull out anything worth more than the bulk rate. I net about $95/hour in the stuff I pull out.

  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not sure if anyone saw this thread I posted in January on this 1919 DDO PCGS CAC grading set someone has but no one replied to it. Guess there wasn’t much interest. https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1099859/pcgs-cac-grading-set-of-1919-ddo-mercury-dimes

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