@jdimmick said:
Strike out , the 25th coin is mine, was found in a bag of mercs about 3-4 weeks ago. It has that planchet scrape thru the date, so I was thinking it might only net grade, but thankfully they regular holder it, AG but still regular holder.
Probably will be listing it on ebay momentarily.
You suck.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
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@jdimmick said:
Strike out , the 25th coin is mine, was found in a bag of mercs about 3-4 weeks ago. It has that planchet scrape thru the date, so I was thinking it might only net grade, but thankfully they regular holder it, AG but still regular holder.
Probably will be listing it on ebay momentarily.
Bingo!
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Congrats @jdimmick
New Auction Record for an AG - Just closed on eBay for $1,977.00 - 10 bidders, 43 bids in a 5 day auction.
Other than a fixed price sale from a website, yours is the highest of the problem-free AGs (And FR2) at a true auction. Still some interest out there for sure!
(21) NGC AG3 - $2,195 (12/24/17 - Sold through ARSave Collectables Website www.arsave.com)
(25) PCGS AG3 - $1,977 (7/18/18 eBay)
(24) PCGS AG3 - $1,599.99 (10/27/17 eBay - Buy It Now)
(17) PCGS FR2 - $1,475 (1/2/18 - Sold through Gerry Fortin's website - seateddimevarieties.com)
(13) NGC AG3 - $1,399.99 (11/21/17 eBay)
(16) NGC AG3 - $817.65 (9/2016 eBay)
(21) NGC AG3 - $772.66 (11/15/17 eBay Best Offer)
(17) PCGS FR2 - $606.83 (9/4/2016 GC)
Was on vacation 3 weeks in August and missed the #4 coin (PCGS XF-40) sold at the ANA (Stacks & Bowers) for $7,800. Does anyone know if that includes any fees so I can update the census as best as possible?
@StrikeOutXXX said:
Was on vacation 3 weeks in August and missed the #4 coin (PCGS XF-40) sold at the ANA (Stacks & Bowers) for $7,800. Does anyone know if that includes any fees so I can update the census as best as possible?
I wondered if Mr. Hansen got it - think he's only missing 7 in his complete variety set. With @DIMEMAN pretty much saying it would take an arm and a leg to pry the XF45 from him, the XF40 might be the way to go for now.
$2,880 for the #3 coin (PCGS VG8) is a new record for a VG, beating the #11 coin (raw VG) which sold on eBay 7/2016 for $2,250.
Prices continue to stay steady, rising slightly when properly advertised in true auctions with the sole exception of the #4 coin (PCGS XF40) which took a slight hit from being sold when it was the Top Pop versus being sold after the #8 coin (PCGS XF45) became the new Top Pop.
There is a slight variance with all the AG3 sales primarily due to a mix and match with true auctions, Buy-It-Now's, Best Offers and fixed price web sales, but there is still a healthy amount of interest from top to bottom of the grading scale among the 25 known examples.
If you don't like visiting the 1st post, here is the sales history by price as of today:
(8) PCGS XF45 - $10,000 (10/2017 - Private Sale: Rick Snow > Dimeman)
(4) PCGS XF40 - $9,075 (2/14/16 GC)
(4) PCGS XF40 - $7,800 (8/22/18 - Stacks & Bowers ANA)
(1) PCGS VF20 - $4,290 (2/26/17 GC)
(1) PCGS VF20 - $3,960 (8/21/16 GC)
(3) PCGS VG8 - $2,880 (9/7/18 Heritage)
(11) Raw VG - $2,250 (7/2016 eBay)
(21) NGC AG3 - $2,195 (12/24/17 - Sold through ARSave Collectables Website www.arsave.com)
(25) PCGS AG3 - $1,977 (7/18/18 eBay)
(23) NGC AG3 - $1,649.99 (8/24/18 - eBay Buy It Now)
(24) PCGS AG3 - $1,599.99 (10/27/17 eBay - Buy It Now)
(17) PCGS FR2 - $1,475 (1/2/18 - Sold through Gerry Fortin's website - seateddimevarieties.com)
(13) NGC AG3 - $1,399.99 (11/21/17 eBay)
(16) NGC AG3 - $817.65 (9/2016 eBay)
(21) NGC AG3 - $772.66 (11/15/17 eBay Best Offer)
(19) PCGS Genuine AG Details - Cleaning $725 (3/6/17 eBay) Resold with proper auction title
(17) PCGS FR2 - $606.83 (9/4/16 GC)
(19) PCGS Genuine AG Details - Cleaning $203.53 (Not listed as DDO in auction) (10/2016 eBay)
And the same sales listed Chronologically:
(3) PCGS VG8 - $2,880 (9/7/18 Heritage)
(23) NGC AG3 - $1,649.99 (8/24/18 - eBay Buy It Now)
(4) PCGS XF40 - $7,800 (8/22/18 - Stacks & Bowers ANA)
(25) PCGS AG3 - $1,977 (7/18/18 eBay)
(17) PCGS FR2 - $1,475 (1/2/18 - Sold through Gerry Fortin's website - seateddimevarieties.com)
(21) NGC AG3 - $2,195 (12/24/17 - Sold through ARSave Collectables Website www.arsave.com)
(13) NGC AG3 - $1,399.99 (11/21/17 eBay)
(21) NGC AG3 - $772.66 (11/15/17 eBay Best Offer)
(24) PCGS AG3 - $1,599.99 (10/27/17 eBay - Buy It Now)
(8) PCGS XF45 - $10,000 10/2017 - Private Sale: Rick Snow > Dimeman
(19) PCGS Genuine AG Details - Cleaning $725 (3/6/17 eBay) Resold with proper auction title
(1) PCGS VF20 - $4,290 (2/26/17 GC)
(19) PCGS Genuine AG Details - Cleaning $203.53 (Not listed as DDO in auction) (10/2016 eBay)
(16) NGC AG3 - $817.65 (9/2016 eBay)
(17) PCGS FR2 - $606.83 (9/4/16 GC)
(1) PCGS VF20 - $3,960 (8/21/16 GC)
(11) Raw VG - $2,250 (7/2016 eBay)
(4) PCGS XF40 - $9,075 (2/14/16 GC)
The year is almost over and we've only had 1 more example show up bringing us to 25 known.
We had a little bit of action sales-wise towards the end of summer with 2 eBay sales, 1 Heritage, and 1 Stacks & Bowers.
The #14 coin: PCGS F Details - Genuine - Edge Dmg (B) didn't sell a few times on eBay first at $1,750 then again at $900. I'm thinking folks want these more for Registry sets versus detail graded ones.
We're over 3.5 years since this came out, with the bulk showing up in the first 1.5 years. The last 2 years have been pretty slim for new examples.
Just bringing this to the top to keep it fresh in everyone's minds - good luck searching!
As always - any updates or additional info for the census is always appreciated!
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I just got finished buying a large mercury dime deal out of Pinehurst, the guy had a pile of 1919's, I was hoping one of them would be a ddo, but no luck.
4 years ago today I posted the 1919 DDO for the first time in a different thread. It's funny the first two comments were that it was Machine Doubling, and a fake coin 8-)
Only the 1 new example this past year, we're still mired at 25 known in the census.
Edited to add: good thing I saw it over in Sleepytown!
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I had one of these years ago in about fine, long before I found the ag I sold last year. Showed it around, but was told the same thing, strike doubling , and just no intrest it seemed, I don't know what ever happen to that one, but at least I was redeemed a little when I located the ag last year. As I mentioned in an earlier thread, went thru a large deal of mercs, lots of 19's, but no luck, just last week checked liked 2 rolls of 19's and nothing.
seems to be a scarce issue, which is actually good at keeping the values in check
Your original post 4 years ago, on your "Box of Oddities" thread: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/11109540/#Comment_11109540
First 3 responses on the 1919:
1. "most likely die bounce (machine doubling), but wow ..."
2. "Great find!" (Tom DeLorey)
3. "Honestly my first thought is that it is a genuine doubled die but a counterfeit coin."
That was a pretty cool box. Thanks for the throwback.
"Sean, I'll bet you a grande latte and TWO chocolate covered donuts that that piece is genuine!"
I have yet to meet Tom in person, but if I ever get the opportunity the coffee and donuts are absolutely on me.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
"Sean, I'll bet you a grande latte and TWO chocolate covered donuts that that piece is genuine!"
I have yet to meet Tom in person, but if I ever get the opportunity the coffee and donuts are absolutely on me.
Sean Reynolds
Look for me at the ANA. I’ll be riding an electric scooter.
😎
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
That coin has been on eBay a few times in the last year, I saw it again a week or so ago for maybe??? $375 Buy It Now and a day or so later it was gone, and not listed in the completed section. I assume you made a private deal?
I can update coin # 14's history adding a 3/2019 purchase - to you - don't suppose you care to share the selling price to add that to the sales history part of the census?
Let me talk to my Dad about adding the selling price, but I will say that it was listed as $399 starting bid, not buy it now.
We did a private deal for a LOT more than that.
Thanks for the heads up @JasonGaming - compared pics to my files and does not match any other known ones - he has an obv picture in the reddit thread, and I'd estimate it as an AG unless the reverse has any surprises.
After seeing a picture of the reverse, I changed the new 26 coin to FR in the census unless it comes back any different from a TPG. Wear-wise, it's almost identical to the number 17 coin in the census: PCGS FR-2
Even if it straight-grades as an FR-2, still carrying some value.
Welcome #27 to the census - showed up in the population report. Anybody here make this beauty? 4th highest straight-graded example. Compared to all others in my photo database, it is a new example.
27) PCGS F-12 - New to census May, 2019.
Cert: 545047.12/37354680
Stage B
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@DIMEMAN said:
The Fine 12 is a nice looking coin. I have mixed feelings about more being found.
Mixed because you are not the one finding them? 8-)
We're only at 27 in the census in a little over 4 years. Still not in a published CPG, which will help a lot more surface I think. A small paragraph in Mega Red as well as mentioned in the Whitman Dime Book is about it, but not in the regular Redbook yet. Dennis said Whitman was monitoring the coin for possible inclusion a few years ago. Not sure how many need to be found, or what kind of movements needs to happen for it to hit the Redbook. Inclusion in the Registries I think helped quite a lot as well.
Sales are certainly robust for the variety across all grades. Even with 27 in the census, there are only 9 straight-graded or problem-free raw at VG or higher. 14 Problem Free in Good or lower then 4 details/problem coins.
I don't think supply has outgrown demand for straight-graded pieces yet by a long shot. Only 13 of the 27 have ever come up for sale in a public environment, so I think those that want one and are willing to pay for one, are still bidding aggressively for any that show up for sale.
Things certainly slowed down the last few years, but always fun when some are found or sold around the same time so I get to update the census and bump the thread!
What do you think the AU environmental damage might bring at auction?
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@CaptHenway said:
What do you think the AU environmental damage might bring at auction?
I really don't know to be honest. A lot will depend on how well NCS conserved the coin. I saw pictures of it before it was conserved and it was kind of a train-wreck, but have not seen how it turned out afterwards, if it has any eye appeal or not.
I think many folks want these for inclusion in a registry, which would turn off a lot of bidders as well as the stigma of simply being a details coin. The few detail coins which have sold were about 1/2-1/3 lower than straight-graded pieces. I would expect about the same if the NCS AU-50 Details coin came up for auction (again... depending on the results of the conservation).
The XFs have pulled between $8-10k
The VF has sold around $4k a few times
The VGs go around $3k
The Goods and FR between $1k - $2k
If the Details AU-50 has any sort of eye appeal left, and the bidder doesn't care about the ability to put it in a registry set, I would guess anywhere from $3k - $5k. The lower end of the range once an AU or higher straight-graded piece comes into play.
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Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Bingo!
Great score, Mr. Hansen needs one
I suspect he'll want a higher grade tho.
Bst transactions with: dimeman, oih82w8, mercurydimeguy, dunerlaw, Lakesammman, 2ltdjorn, MattTheRiley, dpvilla, drddm, CommemKing, Relaxn, Yorkshireman, Cucamongacoin, jtlee321, greencopper, coin22lover, coinfolio, lindedad, spummybum, Leeroybrown, flackthat, BryceM, Surfinxhi, VanHalen, astrorat, robkool, Wingsrule, PennyGuy, al410, Ilikecolor, Southcounty, Namvet69, Commemdude, oreville, Leebone
Yea, I saw the glaring hole in his set - I wonder what @Dimeman what do if DLH sent a nuclear offer his way for the XF45 Top Pop....
"You Suck Award" - February, 2015
Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
It would have to be Super Nuclear!!!
Obviously, don't have Hansen kind of funds , but if the coin I found had been a higher grade like a VF+ or XF or better, probably would be keeping it.
Wow!! Way to go. There must not be many at all to have been undiscovered for so long! Once in a life time opportunity here. Congratulations
They are still out there. Each discovery gives us all hope in finding one, and to keep on searching.
You should all make sure @Pdlp verifies the DDO on these. Just as a little added insurance.
I failed to Cherrypick an example at Summer FUN yesterday but I only requested to look at the slabbed 1919 examples that I saw.
https://greatcollections.com/Collections/1120/The-Keyman64-Mercury-Dime-Collection/2024-07-07
Congrats @jdimmick
New Auction Record for an AG - Just closed on eBay for $1,977.00 - 10 bidders, 43 bids in a 5 day auction.
Other than a fixed price sale from a website, yours is the highest of the problem-free AGs (And FR2) at a true auction. Still some interest out there for sure!
(21) NGC AG3 - $2,195 (12/24/17 - Sold through ARSave Collectables Website www.arsave.com)
(25) PCGS AG3 - $1,977 (7/18/18 eBay)
(24) PCGS AG3 - $1,599.99 (10/27/17 eBay - Buy It Now)
(17) PCGS FR2 - $1,475 (1/2/18 - Sold through Gerry Fortin's website - seateddimevarieties.com)
(13) NGC AG3 - $1,399.99 (11/21/17 eBay)
(16) NGC AG3 - $817.65 (9/2016 eBay)
(21) NGC AG3 - $772.66 (11/15/17 eBay Best Offer)
(17) PCGS FR2 - $606.83 (9/4/2016 GC)
"You Suck Award" - February, 2015
Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
@jdimmick
Do I need to say: congrats! Or does the $ say it all. Awesome! Whoo hoo!
Bst transactions with: dimeman, oih82w8, mercurydimeguy, dunerlaw, Lakesammman, 2ltdjorn, MattTheRiley, dpvilla, drddm, CommemKing, Relaxn, Yorkshireman, Cucamongacoin, jtlee321, greencopper, coin22lover, coinfolio, lindedad, spummybum, Leeroybrown, flackthat, BryceM, Surfinxhi, VanHalen, astrorat, robkool, Wingsrule, PennyGuy, al410, Ilikecolor, Southcounty, Namvet69, Commemdude, oreville, Leebone
Sweet. Maybe some more can be found!
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Was on vacation 3 weeks in August and missed the #4 coin (PCGS XF-40) sold at the ANA (Stacks & Bowers) for $7,800. Does anyone know if that includes any fees so I can update the census as best as possible?
https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-BIRBM
"You Suck Award" - February, 2015
Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
The $7,800 should be with buyers fees.
I wonder who bought it?
I wondered if Mr. Hansen got it - think he's only missing 7 in his complete variety set. With @DIMEMAN pretty much saying it would take an arm and a leg to pry the XF45 from him, the XF40 might be the way to go for now.
"You Suck Award" - February, 2015
Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
Crap - I'm really slipping. The #23 coin (NGC AG-3) sold on eBay 8/24/18 as well with a BIN of $1,649.99.
Good job @KearneyCC
Any more updates out there?
"You Suck Award" - February, 2015
Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
The ha sale today
Bst transactions with: dimeman, oih82w8, mercurydimeguy, dunerlaw, Lakesammman, 2ltdjorn, MattTheRiley, dpvilla, drddm, CommemKing, Relaxn, Yorkshireman, Cucamongacoin, jtlee321, greencopper, coin22lover, coinfolio, lindedad, spummybum, Leeroybrown, flackthat, BryceM, Surfinxhi, VanHalen, astrorat, robkool, Wingsrule, PennyGuy, al410, Ilikecolor, Southcounty, Namvet69, Commemdude, oreville, Leebone
Nice - 3 sold in the last few weeks.
$2,880 for the #3 coin (PCGS VG8) is a new record for a VG, beating the #11 coin (raw VG) which sold on eBay 7/2016 for $2,250.
Prices continue to stay steady, rising slightly when properly advertised in true auctions with the sole exception of the #4 coin (PCGS XF40) which took a slight hit from being sold when it was the Top Pop versus being sold after the #8 coin (PCGS XF45) became the new Top Pop.
There is a slight variance with all the AG3 sales primarily due to a mix and match with true auctions, Buy-It-Now's, Best Offers and fixed price web sales, but there is still a healthy amount of interest from top to bottom of the grading scale among the 25 known examples.
If you don't like visiting the 1st post, here is the sales history by price as of today:
(8) PCGS XF45 - $10,000 (10/2017 - Private Sale: Rick Snow > Dimeman)
(4) PCGS XF40 - $9,075 (2/14/16 GC)
(4) PCGS XF40 - $7,800 (8/22/18 - Stacks & Bowers ANA)
(1) PCGS VF20 - $4,290 (2/26/17 GC)
(1) PCGS VF20 - $3,960 (8/21/16 GC)
(3) PCGS VG8 - $2,880 (9/7/18 Heritage)
(11) Raw VG - $2,250 (7/2016 eBay)
(21) NGC AG3 - $2,195 (12/24/17 - Sold through ARSave Collectables Website www.arsave.com)
(25) PCGS AG3 - $1,977 (7/18/18 eBay)
(23) NGC AG3 - $1,649.99 (8/24/18 - eBay Buy It Now)
(24) PCGS AG3 - $1,599.99 (10/27/17 eBay - Buy It Now)
(17) PCGS FR2 - $1,475 (1/2/18 - Sold through Gerry Fortin's website - seateddimevarieties.com)
(13) NGC AG3 - $1,399.99 (11/21/17 eBay)
(16) NGC AG3 - $817.65 (9/2016 eBay)
(21) NGC AG3 - $772.66 (11/15/17 eBay Best Offer)
(19) PCGS Genuine AG Details - Cleaning $725 (3/6/17 eBay) Resold with proper auction title
(17) PCGS FR2 - $606.83 (9/4/16 GC)
(19) PCGS Genuine AG Details - Cleaning $203.53 (Not listed as DDO in auction) (10/2016 eBay)
And the same sales listed Chronologically:
(3) PCGS VG8 - $2,880 (9/7/18 Heritage)
(23) NGC AG3 - $1,649.99 (8/24/18 - eBay Buy It Now)
(4) PCGS XF40 - $7,800 (8/22/18 - Stacks & Bowers ANA)
(25) PCGS AG3 - $1,977 (7/18/18 eBay)
(17) PCGS FR2 - $1,475 (1/2/18 - Sold through Gerry Fortin's website - seateddimevarieties.com)
(21) NGC AG3 - $2,195 (12/24/17 - Sold through ARSave Collectables Website www.arsave.com)
(13) NGC AG3 - $1,399.99 (11/21/17 eBay)
(21) NGC AG3 - $772.66 (11/15/17 eBay Best Offer)
(24) PCGS AG3 - $1,599.99 (10/27/17 eBay - Buy It Now)
(8) PCGS XF45 - $10,000 10/2017 - Private Sale: Rick Snow > Dimeman
(19) PCGS Genuine AG Details - Cleaning $725 (3/6/17 eBay) Resold with proper auction title
(1) PCGS VF20 - $4,290 (2/26/17 GC)
(19) PCGS Genuine AG Details - Cleaning $203.53 (Not listed as DDO in auction) (10/2016 eBay)
(16) NGC AG3 - $817.65 (9/2016 eBay)
(17) PCGS FR2 - $606.83 (9/4/16 GC)
(1) PCGS VF20 - $3,960 (8/21/16 GC)
(11) Raw VG - $2,250 (7/2016 eBay)
(4) PCGS XF40 - $9,075 (2/14/16 GC)
"You Suck Award" - February, 2015
Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
The year is almost over and we've only had 1 more example show up bringing us to 25 known.
We had a little bit of action sales-wise towards the end of summer with 2 eBay sales, 1 Heritage, and 1 Stacks & Bowers.
The #14 coin: PCGS F Details - Genuine - Edge Dmg (B) didn't sell a few times on eBay first at $1,750 then again at $900. I'm thinking folks want these more for Registry sets versus detail graded ones.
We're over 3.5 years since this came out, with the bulk showing up in the first 1.5 years. The last 2 years have been pretty slim for new examples.
Just bringing this to the top to keep it fresh in everyone's minds - good luck searching!
As always - any updates or additional info for the census is always appreciated!
"You Suck Award" - February, 2015
Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
At least now they are mentioned in Mega Red!
I just got finished buying a large mercury dime deal out of Pinehurst, the guy had a pile of 1919's, I was hoping one of them would be a ddo, but no luck.
Happy 4 year anniversary!
4 years ago today I posted the 1919 DDO for the first time in a different thread. It's funny the first two comments were that it was Machine Doubling, and a fake coin 8-)
Only the 1 new example this past year, we're still mired at 25 known in the census.
As always - any updates, please let me know.
"You Suck Award" - February, 2015
Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
The fewer the better.
Edited to add: good thing I saw it over in Sleepytown!
Has it really been 4 years already?
Dang!
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress
I had one of these years ago in about fine, long before I found the ag I sold last year. Showed it around, but was told the same thing, strike doubling , and just no intrest it seemed, I don't know what ever happen to that one, but at least I was redeemed a little when I located the ag last year. As I mentioned in an earlier thread, went thru a large deal of mercs, lots of 19's, but no luck, just last week checked liked 2 rolls of 19's and nothing.
seems to be a scarce issue, which is actually good at keeping the values in check
Still remember the VF I sold 20 years ago....even had doubling written on the holder!
Your original post 4 years ago, on your "Box of Oddities" thread:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/11109540/#Comment_11109540
First 3 responses on the 1919:
1. "most likely die bounce (machine doubling), but wow ..."
2. "Great find!" (Tom DeLorey)
3. "Honestly my first thought is that it is a genuine doubled die but a counterfeit coin."
That was a pretty cool box. Thanks for the throwback.
I wonder if @seanq ever paid up to @CaptHenway
"Sean, I'll bet you a grande latte and TWO chocolate covered donuts that that piece is genuine!"
"You Suck Award" - February, 2015
Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
I have yet to meet Tom in person, but if I ever get the opportunity the coffee and donuts are absolutely on me.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Look for me at the ANA. I’ll be riding an electric scooter.
😎
I don't know if you will want to update the census, but this was a new purchase of ours (In God We Trust Coins and Currency).
Coin #14:
InGodWeTrustCoinsandCurrency.com
@InGodWeTrustCoins
That coin has been on eBay a few times in the last year, I saw it again a week or so ago for maybe??? $375 Buy It Now and a day or so later it was gone, and not listed in the completed section. I assume you made a private deal?
I can update coin # 14's history adding a 3/2019 purchase - to you - don't suppose you care to share the selling price to add that to the sales history part of the census?
Thanks for the update!
"You Suck Award" - February, 2015
Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
Let me talk to my Dad about adding the selling price, but I will say that it was listed as $399 starting bid, not buy it now.
We did a private deal for a LOT more than that.
Devin
InGodWeTrustCoinsandCurrency.com
@StrikeOutXXX my Dad said that he would rather not disclose the selling price.
Thanks!
Devin
InGodWeTrustCoinsandCurrency.com
This thread is one of my favorite memories of this forum. It’s nice to see a refresh after I’ve been away for awhile.
The rim damage on coin 14 above is seen near the date, right? All it takes sometimes is one drop, eh? Certainly a terrific find, regardless.
Another one has been found, over on Reddit! (Not by me.)
Always buying nice toned coins! Searching for a low grade 1873 Arrows DDO Dime and 1842-O Small Date Quarter.
Thanks for the heads up @JasonGaming - compared pics to my files and does not match any other known ones - he has an obv picture in the reddit thread, and I'd estimate it as an AG unless the reverse has any surprises.
So... this one is #26 - Stage B
His thread at reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/coins/comments/b9irpa/1919_ddo_mercury_dime_fs101_picked_searching/
His posted obverse
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After seeing a picture of the reverse, I changed the new 26 coin to FR in the census unless it comes back any different from a TPG. Wear-wise, it's almost identical to the number 17 coin in the census: PCGS FR-2
Even if it straight-grades as an FR-2, still carrying some value.
(17) PCGS FR2 - $1,475 (1/2/18 - Sold through Gerry Fortin's website - seateddimevarieties.com)
(17) PCGS FR2 - $606.83 (9/4/16 GC)
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Welcome #27 to the census - showed up in the population report. Anybody here make this beauty? 4th highest straight-graded example. Compared to all others in my photo database, it is a new example.
27) PCGS F-12 - New to census May, 2019.
Cert: 545047.12/37354680
Stage B
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Nice example of the variety!
Great to see another one surface.
Dang! Moves mine down to #5.
Nice find for the somebody!
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The Fine 12 is a nice looking coin. I have mixed feelings about more being found.
Mixed because you are not the one finding them? 8-)
We're only at 27 in the census in a little over 4 years. Still not in a published CPG, which will help a lot more surface I think. A small paragraph in Mega Red as well as mentioned in the Whitman Dime Book is about it, but not in the regular Redbook yet. Dennis said Whitman was monitoring the coin for possible inclusion a few years ago. Not sure how many need to be found, or what kind of movements needs to happen for it to hit the Redbook. Inclusion in the Registries I think helped quite a lot as well.
Sales are certainly robust for the variety across all grades. Even with 27 in the census, there are only 9 straight-graded or problem-free raw at VG or higher. 14 Problem Free in Good or lower then 4 details/problem coins.
I don't think supply has outgrown demand for straight-graded pieces yet by a long shot. Only 13 of the 27 have ever come up for sale in a public environment, so I think those that want one and are willing to pay for one, are still bidding aggressively for any that show up for sale.
Things certainly slowed down the last few years, but always fun when some are found or sold around the same time so I get to update the census and bump the thread!
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What do you think the AU environmental damage might bring at auction?
I really don't know to be honest. A lot will depend on how well NCS conserved the coin. I saw pictures of it before it was conserved and it was kind of a train-wreck, but have not seen how it turned out afterwards, if it has any eye appeal or not.
I think many folks want these for inclusion in a registry, which would turn off a lot of bidders as well as the stigma of simply being a details coin. The few detail coins which have sold were about 1/2-1/3 lower than straight-graded pieces. I would expect about the same if the NCS AU-50 Details coin came up for auction (again... depending on the results of the conservation).
The XFs have pulled between $8-10k
The VF has sold around $4k a few times
The VGs go around $3k
The Goods and FR between $1k - $2k
If the Details AU-50 has any sort of eye appeal left, and the bidder doesn't care about the ability to put it in a registry set, I would guess anywhere from $3k - $5k. The lower end of the range once an AU or higher straight-graded piece comes into play.
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