North/South/Central American Coins Thursday, let's see them!
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Today's mail...




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We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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@KingOfMorganDollar they are fantasy coins. They are used in Mexico for weddings.
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Given in groups of 7 (or 13) by the groom to the bride's family. The earlier ones (like this apparently, given the "B" mintmark beneath the eagle) are 90% or even 92% pure gold. Later ones were silver, or gold plated silver, and finally base metal plated in gold or even not plated.

We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
--Severian the Lame2 -
I recently consigned the EPN 1811B 960 reis. Glad to see it went to an appreciative new owner. RSP
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What's the undertype? I can't seem to place the design.
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It’s an 1802 Portrait per the 2011 auction write-up. I can’t personally place the under type looking at it.
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This is a guess based on what I think I see.


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@JohnnyCache said:
I think you're right. The deformed oval clasp was throwing me off.
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I'm BACK!!! Used to be Billet7 on the old forum.
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As my man George Washington said:
"Addiction, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth.”1955 Venezuela 60 Bolivares (X-MB67)
Caciques de Venezuela series
Chief Guaicaipuro
Inter-change Bank Suiza
AU 22.2 Grams .900 (20 grams .999)Pop of 3/0.

We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
--Severian the Lame11 -
Recent pickup
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Today's arrival:

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@JohnnyCache said:
Recent pickup
II like that coin !
I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.2 -
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@JohnnyCache All of those look super familiar. Where do i know them from? And congrats!
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Just got my hands on this one today...
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@TwoKopeiki said:
@JohnnyCache All of those look super familiar. Where do i know them from? And congrats!Those are all part of the Charles III denomination set that I have been working on and have shown here previously. Additionally, I also have an example of the 1/2 real, a two reales, the one escudo and I had an example of a 4 escudos.
The three above though are also Ex @Boosibri and part of the set he was building at one time.
Now to explain the prior post.
You see yesterday I was able to upgrade the 4 Escudos that was in my set.
However, this is not just any 4 escudos, it's the former Ex Boosibri / Ex Norweb / Ex Eldorado example.So it's nice that those four coins are reunited in this set, which by the way still really badly needs the 2 escudos to be complete. @MrEureka


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No recent purchases, but how about a new reel on Instagram?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CiRoHXCrNBY/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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@TwoKopeiki said:
No recent purchases, but how about a new reel on Instagram?https://www.instagram.com/reel/CiRoHXCrNBY/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
That 1791 Mo-FM in PCGS MS63 is beautiful!
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@JohnnyCache said:
@TwoKopeiki said:
No recent purchases, but how about a new reel on Instagram?https://www.instagram.com/reel/CiRoHXCrNBY/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
That 1791 Mo-FM in PCGS MS63 is beautiful!
Life's too short to collect ugly coins
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My latest pickup. Really rare CR countermark. Much rarer still with the earlier Guatemala mark.

Andy Lustig
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.14 -
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Mexico, one escudo 1815.
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Couple of additions from today's SARC auction:
1800 8 Reales that look promising to be an 8/7 overdate:


And a common 1809 in NGC AU55 that i couldn't pass up for the price of the opening bid:
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@TwoKopeiki the 8/7 looks really promising!
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Happy Thursday everyone. I got my grades yesterday and trueviews this morning. Very happy to add this piece to my type set as it's probably the only gold I'll add for a long time, though I won't stop trying.
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@Euclid said:

Congratulations! I really like the toning.
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I'm BACK!!! Used to be Billet7 on the old forum.
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I thought that this looked good enough to buy from an auction in Spain today.
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Help me i'm addicted to making Instagram reels.
This latest one is a NEWP from Stephen Album.
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I was hoping to win a coin up for auction today but was outbid by multiple bidders. Fourth time it's happened in the last year or so.
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@WCC said:
I was hoping to win a coin up for auction today but was outbid by multiple bidders. Fourth time it's happened in the last year or so.What was the coin?
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@TwoKopeiki said:
@WCC said:
I was hoping to win a coin up for auction today but was outbid by multiple bidders. Fourth time it's happened in the last year or so.What was the coin?
1769 Bolivia pillar 2 reales in the Kunker auction.
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@WCC said:
@TwoKopeiki said:
@WCC said:
I was hoping to win a coin up for auction today but was outbid by multiple bidders. Fourth time it's happened in the last year or so.What was the coin?
1769 Bolivia pillar 2 reales in the Kunker auction.
Looks like a nice coin. Cinquefoils and round 9. I'm sorry you didn't get it.
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@TwoKopeiki said:
@WCC said:
@TwoKopeiki said:
@WCC said:
I was hoping to win a coin up for auction today but was outbid by multiple bidders. Fourth time it's happened in the last year or so.What was the coin?
1769 Bolivia pillar 2 reales in the Kunker auction.
Looks like a nice coin. Cinquefoils and round 9. I'm sorry you didn't get it.
Thanks. The date is common enough but in a very uncommon grade. This coin sold once before since I have been buying this design, but I have never seen another even close and it looks better than any of the plate coins in my references too.
I have only paid more than the winning bid once and it was a graded coin. I don't see anything wrong with it but didn't want to risk getting "buried".
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@WCC said:
@TwoKopeiki said:
@WCC said:
I was hoping to win a coin up for auction today but was outbid by multiple bidders.What was the coin?
1769 Bolivia pillar 2 reales in the Kunker auction.
Gee whiz, I thought the U.S. auctions houses estimates were bad, this lot estimate is a bit extreme.

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Couldn't pass on this one for the price> @TwoKopeiki said:
Help me i'm addicted to making Instagram reels.
This latest one is a NEWP from Stephen Album.
I enjoyed watching the Unboxing of the 1800 and 1809 Mexico Mint 8 Reales video.
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@JohnnyCache said:
Couldn't pass on this one for the price> @TwoKopeiki said:Help me i'm addicted to making Instagram reels.
This latest one is a NEWP from Stephen Album.
I enjoyed watching the Unboxing of the 1800 and 1809 Mexico Mint 8 Reales video.Uh-oh. I didn't think I shared the full video!
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Unique 1983 pattern Balboa with the "Ley 0500" reverse (in copper nickel and NOT silver):

Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
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Chief Guicaipuro: Two million six thousand sixty Bolívares
We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
--Severian the Lame5 -

Bit of a random purchase for me but I've always wanted one of these. Thought it would be fun to do a type set of them similar to the 8R type set on the PCGS Registry.https://numismaticmuse.com/ My Web Gallery
The best collecting goals lie right on the border between the possible and the impossible. - Andy Lustig, "MrEureka"
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M1-65b
1765/3


Aside from the 5/3 this coin shows evidence of the entire reverse legend being re-cut.
You can easily see the re-cut w/shift upon close inspection.
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After many months at PCGS, the first of my Mexico 1945 20c were graded. There was one error in the hoard, which I submitted under Regular service. Another batch is under Economy service, which is still pending.
Here is the error coin (obverse lamination) from the Armando Hoard:
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