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CAN YOU GRADE THIS COIN FROM THE PICTURE??? GRADE REVEALVED MS66

joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 23, 2021 11:18AM in U.S. Coin Forum





may the fonz be with you...always...

CAN YOU GRADE THIS COIN FROM THE PICTURE??? GRADE REVEALVED MS66

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    joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,811 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I left the cert number in so that way people can see what pcgs called it- however, I ask that you do not spoil the results/fun

    may the fonz be with you...always...
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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guessed 63 mostly due to the divot above the lip.

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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it but will go MS 62/3



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    joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 18,923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice Gold!
    I voted for the most dreaded grade in the game, the ms 62.
    :)

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,808 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS62. Anything higher is overgraded IMO.

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can’t grade it from the picture but I can by running the cert. number.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not sure how bad the hit by the lips will affect the grade, but I would say a good coin other than that. Cheers, RickO

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I graded it MS-62. It’s in Mint State, but the obverse is pretty chippy. The reverse is better, but that can’t pull it up, and reverse is usually better any way. Even the reverse has the look of a less than Choice Unc. coin.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,808 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Not sure how bad the hit by the lips will affect the grade, but I would say a good coin other than that. Cheers, RickO

    I think the coin grades better than good. ;)

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    While I wouldn’t grade it that high, I’m going to guess the coin graded 63+. Now, I’m going to go look it up.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 10,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did my grade in the voting. I looked up the cert just now and I’ll just say that, by the picture only, I don’t have the same grade as the holder.

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    WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 7,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I never get the grade right from photos.
    Once again, my estimate is wrong. LOL
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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CAN YOU GRADE THIS COIN FROM THE PICTURE???

    Probably not, but I'll give it a shot. It looks pretty clean with fairly strong luster and good color except for that lip cut and some scruffiness in the obverse fields, so I'm going to say 64.


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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,609 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes I can grade this coin from the photos, now if that matches what PCGS said is another mater. ;)

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Guess The Grade Grading Service does not have a clear choice

    No bell curve. We’ve got a rectangle.

    I’m interested in what the OP thinks it grades out as

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63 was my choice. Too many nicks and scars on the obverse and reverse for a higher grade.
    Jim


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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,042 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I voted MS63.

    When in doubt, don't.
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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,041 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My personal grade is MS63 unless it looks way better in hand.

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 to me, that lip thingy must be a die defect, doesn't look like man made to me. Or is it?

    I like it, watch it will grade either 62 or 66 :|

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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,819 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I graded it 63 and now I'm also looking it up.

    Tom

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    coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Darn. I guess I can't grade from photos. I have more comments but I don't want to mess up the game.

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @marcmoish said:
    64 to me, that lip thingy must be a die defect, doesn't look like man made to me. Or is it?

    I like it, watch it will grade either 62 or 66 :|

    That defect doesn’t look mint-made to me.

    Thanks Mark, then it's likely not.

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    USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 2,121 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a head scratcher to say the least. I was at 62

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,041 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mechanical error?

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am at 60

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,454 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I cast my vote and am shocked at the actual grade!

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,924 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Without seeing in hand, hard to know exactly but at least MS63, I guessed higher.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You just ruined it for the honest guessers! Made me finally go and look and I agree with you!

    @pcgscacgold said:
    That is a crazy high grade for that coin.

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    pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    You just ruined it for the honest guessers! Made me finally go and look and I agree with you!

    @pcgscacgold said:
    That is a crazy high grade for that coin.

    Well I did keep the number out of my post. I guessed and then checked. Then I went to the safe and found 5 Half Eagles I want Fairmont Collection to submit for me.

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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 11,360 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks a 62 with a 63 on a good day! A bit surprised for sure........

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Still is! :D

    @PerryHall said:
    In the old days that was called a "coffin coin" because that slab will be that coin's final resting place. :D

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    breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I happened to lot view that coin. It is a coin with nice luster and pretty minimal marks other than the prominent one near the nose. My guess is that PCGS decided that it was in the planchet; otherwise that grade is hard to agree with.

    Fairmont hoard has a lot of nice coins in the 55-62 range (as long as you don't mind the slight to medium dirt that I understand is common in coins that have come back from European vaults).

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    kazkaz Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guessed 63, due to the obv. baggies

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just can’t get past the number of small marks all over the obverse

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    pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    I just can’t get past the number of small marks all over the obverse

    And what about the reverse on both sides of the mint mark. Those are not the fields of a coin of that grade.

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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62 and I'm basing that on my 85-S that is in a 64 holder.

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,171 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wild guess....AU 58...In my opinion, this coin has seen quite a bid of circulation.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guessed 64, as it looks like mine:


    There’s gotta be some serious luster that I’m not seeing... :neutral:

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hmmmm... interesting. I guess it depends upon which photo you're basing the decision on. I interpreted the breaks in luster (nose, eyebrow, hair, and Liberty's hairlip) and numerous contact marks (obverse field) in the first image to be more reflective of an AU coin. I interpreted the other photos as lighting seeking to hide what was revealed on the first image...

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,924 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 23, 2021 5:44PM

    I agree with the experts on this coin, impossible to judge without seeing the coin in hand.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bolivarshagnasty said:
    I’d take @asheland ’s coin over the OP’s coin everyday of the week.

    My guess is that it’s not the OP’s coin, but rather, just a coin posted by the OP - two very different things.😉

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