Gold $2.50 Quarter Eagle Thread

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sedulous
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edited November 13, 2021 7:20PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Is the mark on or around the A in STATES on the reverse of this Quarter Eagle significant? I would like to ask for opinions on whether you think it will pass in the PCGS grading room? Thanks, Tim

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  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think so.

  • gumby1234
    gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I had a Morgan dollar with a scratch similar to that size and it got bodybagged by PCGS it said tooled. It wasn't in a prime focal area and was on the reverse.

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  • MsMorrisine
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    Doesn’t look like a classic scratch with one long line. Looks more like an unusual contact mark

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  • PerryHall
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    The 1907 quarter eagle is a cool coin since it's the last coin is the longest US coin series without a change in design or composition (1840 to 1907 or 68 years).

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  • dcarr
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    The mark might also be a struck-through planchet flake.
    Regardless, I think MS-63, so long as there are no significant hairlines.

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  • 291fifth
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    It will straight grade. Probably MS63.

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  • Along
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    63

  • davewesen
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    does it go under the left leg of the A and reappear to the left

  • BillJones
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    MS-63. You can from there for whatever you expect.

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  • sedulous
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    edited November 12, 2021 9:32PM
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    @davewesen said:
    does it go under the left leg of the A and reappear to the left

    It is a bunch of different scratch marks, yes.

    • along the left side of the A
    • diagonally from the inside base of the A down to the right (I don't believe across the A leg but would have to re-examine)
    • another scratch mark down from the base of the A with a 90 degree bend to the right past the base of the diagonal line.

    EDITS for spelling

    One other thing, I am thinking the three roughly equally-spaced tick marks in the field towards the wing might also be related for the contact event - but who really knows.

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  • sedulous
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    Thanks everyone who helped on this coin study! Much appreciated. - Tim

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  • ricko
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    It looks to me like it will straight grade.... 62 or 63.... Well...looking at it longer... 62. Cheers, RickO

  • cameonut2011
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    @MsMorrisine said:
    Doesn’t look like a classic scratch with one long line. Looks more like an unusual contact mark

    I agree with this. I don't think it will preclude a straight grade, but like all contact marks it will have some influence on the grade.

  • sedulous
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    @BillJones said:
    This piece is in an "Old Green Label" MS-63.


    Wow! Beautiful. The roughness in the nose area and maybe a minor scratch on the neck might be the only thing holding it back from a 64 grade.

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  • tommy44
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    Looks like it may have been hit by the reeded edge of another coin or possibly a strike through. I think it will straight grade at 63.

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  • BillJones
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    Wow! Beautiful. The roughness in the nose area and maybe a minor scratch on the neck might be the only thing holding it back from a 64 grade.

    My camera makes every mark look bigger than it is. Most people who see the 1905 quarter eagle in person think that it's a crack-out candidate. It has strong luster on both sides.

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  • sedulous
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    edited November 13, 2021 7:17PM
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    Here is my 3 of 3 of the 1907's... for this one, can I say RPD!?


    This one is currently in the grading room.

    p.s. Should I start a $2.50 gold Quarter Eagle thread?

    • T

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  • sedulous
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    SHOW US YOUR GOLD QUARTER EAGLES!

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  • sedulous
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    @lkenefic, Thanks for posting. What grade would you give your '25-D quarter eagle? MS62?

    Here is a 1908-P $2.50 currently in the grading room. I am on the fence between grading it MS63 and 64... mainly because of the luster which only picks up a little in this image here. It is a pretty strong MS63 I believe in these visuals. Perhaps a + grade:

    • Tim

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  • sedulous
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    @BillJones said:
    This one is an NGC MS-67.

    Bill, the luster is dripping off your 1907! Wow!

    Your 1905, I agree, is a strong candidate for a higher grade.

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  • PerryHall
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    @sedulous said:
    @lkenefic, Thanks for posting. What grade would you give your '25-D quarter eagle? MS62?

    Here is a 1908-P $2.50 currently in the grading room. I am on the fence between grading it MS63 and 64... mainly because of the luster which only picks up a little in this image here. It is a pretty strong MS63 I believe in these visuals. Perhaps a + grade:

    • Tim

    I see friction on the Indian's cheekbone and hairlines in the fields. Don't be surprised if it comes back as an AU58. In any event, it looks like a very nice coin and a first year of issue too.

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  • sedulous
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    @robkool said:
    My recent submissions...

    Thanks for sharing Rob. Is the C mintmark doubled to the west?

    I don't have a '52 but this '51 I have been considering for purchase:

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  • robkool
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    The "C" mint mark is an RPM... Nice AU 1851 btw.

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  • sedulous
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    @erwindoc said:
    Im working on a 20th century set of these and I have only one left. Here are a few with good images. Been tougher for me to find a 1904 I like, which is the last remaining coin.



    Jason, how fun! Will keep on the lookout for an '04.

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  • Cougar1978
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    edited November 14, 2021 7:53AM
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    Heck yea - Send it in.

    Cant predict what they will do. My bet - it will pass. It’s a beautiful blazer! Mark not that large nor in primary focal area. Will put my cards on table - MS63.

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  • lkenefic
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    @sedulous said:
    @lkenefic, Thanks for posting. What grade would you give your '25-D quarter eagle? MS62?

    • Tim

    Hi Tim... I'd put the 1925-D closer to AU55... I see rub on Indian's cheek and some hairlines in the obverse field.

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  • PerryHall
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    @FrankH said:
    Sixty two.

    :)

    Great looking toning. B)

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  • pcgscacgold
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    @Eldorado9 said:
    Love these little coins. I can't imagine the immense undertaking to put together a complete date and mint mark set of these coins.

    The 1899 has a mintage of only 27,200. MS-65

    The 1899 QE gets little respect. Only 178 are graded PCGS 64 and it's $1000, 84 of them at 65 for $1750. There are only about 50 graded higher. Even the 1898, with 24,000 minted isn't crazy expensive compared to what has happened in the other gold series. I bought the 1898 and 1899 a few years back in PCGS 64. Fun to own and not as expensive to buy.

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  • Eldorado9
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    @pcgscacgold said:

    @Eldorado9 said:
    Love these little coins. I can't imagine the immense undertaking to put together a complete date and mint mark set of these coins.

    The 1899 has a mintage of only 27,200. MS-65

    The 1899 QE gets little respect. Only 178 are graded PCGS 64 and it's $1000, 84 of them at 65 for $1750. There are only about 50 graded higher. Even the 1898, with 24,000 minted isn't crazy expensive compared to what has happened in the other gold series. I bought the 1898 and 1899 a few years back in PCGS 64. Fun to own and not as expensive to buy.

    Thanks for info! I am just diving into gold, after being focused completely on silver issues...Lot's to learn! I really like the look of this particular coin.

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