Did some microscope comparisons between T1 solo and T1 from the set and T2 solo and T2 from the set.
Not a lot of major differences, but below are the minor minor differences I spotted.
I was thinking there would be more differences between the T2 solo and T2 from the set as they're newer designs, but actually saw more significant differences (still pretty minor) on the T1s
Ti solo obv
T1 from the set obv
There is a minor difference in the size of the fold just above Liberty's left shoulder; slightly thicker, more bulbous, in the T1 solo
T1 solo rev
T1 from the set rev
There seems to be a structural line in the T1 from the set rev running along the back of the eagles neck that is not there in the T1 solo rev
Those are the most significant differences I saw in the comparisons.
The below examples of the T2 solo and T2 from the set appear to show merely just a stronger strike (?) in the T2 solo; T2 from the set seems softer with less well defined details
My daughter sent in her very first submission (21XK) & just received grades of 70 with a signed certificate which she also had encapsulated. First though is hold on to it. I personally like the badass eagle on the type 2. She asked me what its worth now??? Kids, erghhhhh
@younique said:
My daughter sent in her very first submission (21XK) & just received grades of 70 with a signed certificate which she also had encapsulated. First though is hold on to it. I personally like the badass eagle on the type 2. She asked me what its worth now??? Kids, erghhhhh
She could sell the 70 with the useless (IMO) COA & buy a nice looking 69.
She’d probably cut her costs in 1/2 & still have a nice coin.
As the world turns, she's holding on to the only 70 set with hand signed coa graded by host. Personally not a collector of paper however, might be interesting one day if she decides to sell. One other set on the bay now with a 70 & 69 and hand signed coa asking $3500 at last glance. More NGC's recently.
Does anyone know of an actual selling price of a PCGS 70/70 set with hand signed COA?
I found this one but it is a best offer accepted price and you can't see the actual sale price.
Appears only 5 PCGS slabbed certificates on pop report to date #814094. I sent in 4 of them, all 4 sets graded 70 and had slabbed coa's, but only one had a signed coa. A set graded 69/70 was on ebay with a signed, slabbed coa at $3,500 and relisted for $3,700 a while ago. If the pop is correct there is only one as of today.
@younique said:
Appears only 5 PCGS slabbed certificates on pop report to date #814094. I sent in 4 of them, all 4 sets graded 70 and had slabbed coa's, but only one had a signed coa. A set graded 69/70 was on ebay with a signed, slabbed coa at $3,500 and relisted for $3,700 a while ago. If the pop is correct there is only one as of today.
Why do they show as graded MS70? Is that just a default?
There will be (2) more certs in the POP Report shortly as I have (2) sets that have been in Quality Check for 2 1/2 weeks. I had another submission went in to QC and was only there 3 days,,,,,, not sure why it is taking so long?
Why do they show as graded MS70? Is that just a default?
There will be (2) more certs in the POP Report shortly as I have (2) sets that have been in Quality Check for 2 1/2 weeks. I had another submission went in to QC and was only there 3 days,,,,,, not sure why it is taking so long?>
Not sure, unless showing only as 70 due to not being an actual coin. Or possibly only showing how many coa's they slabbed regardless of coin grades.
Good question. I'll be interested to know how your sets do.
Slabbing paper is not in my wheelhouse and have never done it until now so, have to put a shout out to Goldminers for great advice with this submission. Hoping you asked host only to slab in dual holder if coins graded the same. PCGS is great about detail !
I sent mine in with the reverse proof silver set. All sets in a single submission have to have the COA slabbed or not slabbed. So I opted for not slabbed. I am expecting mine won't be a signed copy anyway. Still waiting on the grades. Time will tell...
This set sure doesn't seem to be getting much love. A set on BST finally "relocated" after a long time of being offered for under issue price. Too bad the mint didn't pop a different mintmark on them just for the special designer set.
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whatever happened to all the hand signed coa's from this set. I only ever saw one sale listed, I think on Ebay but can't find it now, in the beginning but don't know if it was a scam or something else. That seller claimed to have several PF 70 sets with slabbed signed coa's as well as a number of signed COA's for sale
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Did some microscope comparisons between T1 solo and T1 from the set and T2 solo and T2 from the set.
Not a lot of major differences, but below are the minor minor differences I spotted.
I was thinking there would be more differences between the T2 solo and T2 from the set as they're newer designs, but actually saw more significant differences (still pretty minor) on the T1s
Ti solo obv
T1 from the set obv
There is a minor difference in the size of the fold just above Liberty's left shoulder; slightly thicker, more bulbous, in the T1 solo
T1 solo rev
T1 from the set rev
There seems to be a structural line in the T1 from the set rev running along the back of the eagles neck that is not there in the T1 solo rev
Those are the most significant differences I saw in the comparisons.
The below examples of the T2 solo and T2 from the set appear to show merely just a stronger strike (?) in the T2 solo; T2 from the set seems softer with less well defined details
T2 solo rev
T2 from the set rev
Comparison gif
T2 solo rev
T2 from the set rev
Comparison gif
Worked that time I guess lol.
WOW !!!
That is a very detailed analysis.
Thank you for taking the time to compile it and post it.
it will never post
"approval" never comes to anyone.
it's best to copy and paste the text.
at least you will have an original copy in the clipboard
you can PM me if it still will not post and I will post it.
Great advice for next time around.
This time, it worked when he tried to post it a second time. It is at the top of this page.
that line on the eagle's neck appears to be lint from the "velvet" fibers on the plastic trash that holds the coins
Nice photos and analysis.
Are these taken with the coins in the capsules? Is there a chance the line in the T2 reverse might be something under the plastic?
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Superb pics that took more than a minute. Thanks for sharing, appreciate it
Oh no. I feel like an idiot.
Too much time staring at the scope. Lol.
I'll go back tomorrow and confirm, but you are probably right.
They are in the capsules and I think it is very likely that is fuzz.
Going back tomorrow to confirm.
When they used real velvet with actual clamshell cases, lint was less of a problem
Do not know if this is news, but it appears that the Mint changed the "Mintage Limit" on 21EE and 21EEN to account for 21XK.
Source
T1: Individual (21EE) + 4-Coin Set (21EF) + Designer Set (21XK) =
8,000 (Product Limit) + 8,200 (Product Limit) + 5,000 (Product Limit) = 21,200
Source
T2: Individual (21EEN) + 4-Coin Set (21EFN) + Designer Set (21XK) =
10,000 (Product Limit) + 10,250 (Product Limit) + 5,000 (Product Limit) = 25,250
They should add 100,000 to the limit just for fun. What good does it do to change the site after people have bought them.
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My daughter sent in her very first submission (21XK) & just received grades of 70 with a signed certificate which she also had encapsulated. First though is hold on to it. I personally like the badass eagle on the type 2. She asked me what its worth now??? Kids, erghhhhh
She could sell the 70 with the useless (IMO) COA & buy a nice looking 69.
She’d probably cut her costs in 1/2 & still have a nice coin.
Your kid might be ahead of you in their thinking!
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As the world turns, she's holding on to the only 70 set with hand signed coa graded by host. Personally not a collector of paper however, might be interesting one day if she decides to sell. One other set on the bay now with a 70 & 69 and hand signed coa asking $3500 at last glance. More NGC's recently.
What a difference in slab appearance for this set! Not a tough decision for me:
Us:
Them:
Thank you RedSeals for the photo of the winner!
Does anyone know of an actual selling price of a PCGS 70/70 set with hand signed COA?
I found this one but it is a best offer accepted price and you can't see the actual sale price.
Appears only 5 PCGS slabbed certificates on pop report to date #814094. I sent in 4 of them, all 4 sets graded 70 and had slabbed coa's, but only one had a signed coa. A set graded 69/70 was on ebay with a signed, slabbed coa at $3,500 and relisted for $3,700 a while ago. If the pop is correct there is only one as of today.
Why do they show as graded MS70? Is that just a default?
There will be (2) more certs in the POP Report shortly as I have (2) sets that have been in Quality Check for 2 1/2 weeks. I had another submission went in to QC and was only there 3 days,,,,,, not sure why it is taking so long?
Not sure, unless showing only as 70 due to not being an actual coin. Or possibly only showing how many coa's they slabbed regardless of coin grades.
Good question. I'll be interested to know how your sets do.
Best of luck! Coa's showing as coin #, not cert #. Don't think since ungradable they would show 70's vs 69's, so assuming its total slabbed coa's
Maybe someone with more expertise on the subject of slabbed paper could shed some light.
I only slabbed the COA's on the small chance of getting a signed COA.
Slabbing paper is not in my wheelhouse and have never done it until now so, have to put a shout out to Goldminers for great advice with this submission. Hoping you asked host only to slab in dual holder if coins graded the same. PCGS is great about detail !
I sent mine in with the reverse proof silver set. All sets in a single submission have to have the COA slabbed or not slabbed. So I opted for not slabbed. I am expecting mine won't be a signed copy anyway. Still waiting on the grades. Time will tell...
This set sure doesn't seem to be getting much love. A set on BST finally "relocated" after a long time of being offered for under issue price. Too bad the mint didn't pop a different mintmark on them just for the special designer set.
My grades just popped up. I ended up with a 69 and a 70. Glad I kept them as single slabs.
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Good call.
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Indeed, good call. I was able to secure a PCGS FS 70 Uno slab and it is so cool.
congrats Miles ! Nice score
whatever happened to all the hand signed coa's from this set. I only ever saw one sale listed, I think on Ebay but can't find it now, in the beginning but don't know if it was a scam or something else. That seller claimed to have several PF 70 sets with slabbed signed coa's as well as a number of signed COA's for sale
A great opportunity to show my set off:
MilesWaits
Nice score . Beautiful coins !!!!
Of note: I am not that seller claiming to have many. 4 sets of 70s and only 1 signed here.
Thanks to RedSeals!