Did anyone here attend this auction in Delaware? Mostly unopened

Insane. I didn't even hear about it. $17k for a 1969 wax box with Clemente, Bench and Aaron showing is an absolute steal. In fact, if the packs aren't tampered with, there were many deals had there. Who in their right mind would use an auction house like that to auction those types of items??

some great prices...wish i knew about it

Gaspipe26 (Bob) was ALL over it....
And he is driving his booty to Steve.

Yes, fun bags can be fake

Lessons learned here for folks with sports collectibles and estate planning and POCs. I have a modest collection and I have already told my wife who to contact should something happen to me. Man, how can you not contact Steve Hart here?

@dontippet said:
Why would you not drive all this stuff to Steve first?

Exactly. And the consignor knew about BBCE authentication from my understanding.

@grote15 said:

@dontippet said:
Why would you not drive all this stuff to Steve first?

Exactly. And the consignor knew about BBCE authentication from my understanding.

Of course they did. Obviously, one would check ebay results for setting up this auction, and if they didn't know about BBCE, they would have after doing a few searches of unopened boxes.

I admit I don't know unopened as well as many on this board. But if that stuff was resealed, then someone had a TON of impeccable wrappers and boxes, and a lot of time on their hands. I mean the 74-78 boxes were blazers. Packs looked completely untouched to me. I saw an 81 Montana rack pack which had the Montana in a different cell than normal (but I've seen GAI grade some in this same cell) and the Montana looked Mint and crisp. Well centered card. Why put that good of a card in if its a reseal ? Also, TONS of odd stuff in there that isn't worth the time to reseal like 3's company and Buck Rogers boxes. I wish I had known about it, like many others I would've been willing to take the risk at some of those prices. AMAZING stuff in that auction.

Jeff

@gemint said:
Insane. I didn't even hear about it. $17k for a 1969 wax box with Clemente, Bench and Aaron showing is an absolute steal. In fact, if the packs aren't tampered with, there were many deals had there. Who in their right mind would use an auction house like that to auction those types of items??

He also had 3 full sets and many 69 singles. There was a really sharp Mantle and Reggie rc that sold for very low prices.

I'd also buy this for 210 any day...
https://seashorehwyaac.com/product/lot-1244-1969-topps-reggie-jackson-260-rc-nm/?v=7516fd43adaa

@handyman said:
1972 BK and 1971 Bk packs dont look good. But hard to tell with so few pics. Didnt look to deep into the others. But Id guess not all are legit as others have stated.

Yes, I was looking at some of the older baseball packs and some of the fold lines don't look right. It's hard to tell from the pictures though. Not many of the pack edges are shown.

It looks like gaspipe bought a lot of it. He's getting them authenticated by BBCE, so we'll soon find out if it's all good.

This looks rough.

I've never handled any 86F BKB - not excited with the way this pack looks and there's a mess of them that sold like this.

Anyone familiar with these packs?

I’m guessing the original owner of the collection bought lower priced product over time maybe.

@handyman said:
I’m guessing the original owner of the collection bought lower priced product over time maybe.

Timing can very much be your friend.

As I've said - early purchases around 1992-4 make all the difference.

I paid the following just as an example - not bragging or complaining - just for reference...

1979 Topps BB Vending case - 1992 - $2800

1979 Topps BB (3) Rack box case - 1993 - $900

1976 OPC BB wax box - 1994 - $700

1977 OPC BB wax box - 1994 - $400

1979 Topps BB wax box (2) - 1993 - $250 per

1993 Topps Finest BKB - 1993 - $135

1982 Topps BB vending case - 1994 - $1200

1985 Topps BB vending case - $450

These are just examples - most of this stuff came from the BBCardKid - Mark Murphy, Mr Mint e.g.

And even some of the more recent purchases may pay off...

A few yrs ago, many of us picked up a 80T wax box FASC for around 900 bucks from a forum rip? I've seen these go for like 8K or even more - I think BBCE has a box for 10K and it's not FASC.

How about the 75T mini wax packs - I purchased 5 packs sealed with the BBCE logo wrap and a sticker stating FASC for like 60 or 80 bucks a pack - now? Not sure but probably somewhere in the 200 - 250 a pack range?

Is there room for appreciation on new purchases? I'd say for some stuff - definitely yes.

I paid like 80 or 90 bucks for a few boxes of 92TSC Ser II BSK - now? 5 or 600?

@handyman said:
Yeah but I’m saying he might have bought things at half that and were not from bbce or Mark Murphy in the 90s. But still bought in the 90s.

Sure that's quite possible?

What I paid back then was the "going" price for unopened.

Am I to infer that if bought cheaper, he might have bought some questionable stuff also?

There’s mega deep pockets out there looking for true collectible stuff, which much of this is. Look at the TREX skeleton that sold for $32 million. Honestly if I was a billionaire I’d want that thing badly...unreal cool.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/t-rex-sold-318-million-and-paleontologists-are-worried-180976071/

As a card collector who jumped in the game way too late to afford anything unopened pre late 1970’s, unopened vintage is also off the charts cool and I can’t imagine there aren’t deep pocket people who feel the same.

Which begs the question everyone else has been asking...why not take to BBCE and get the stuff authenticated, giving those deep pockets peace of mind?

Makes little sense.

Welp, I'm glad I didn't know about this auction early enough to bid.

Yes.

@gemint said:
Yes.

That's too bad. Like Tim said above "All that glitters is not gold." We all dream of finding a hoard like that, that is all legit.

Ouch

@handyman said:
That’s a million dollar money grab

I wouldn't want to be the person who tried to pull off that scheme. Six figure interstate fraud won't work out well for them.

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