I took a quick look at the profiles and this coincidence is a little concerning. Does not prove anything obviously.
Sorry to those having trouble, and to zestee if this is really all just a series of unfortunate circumstances.
Very sorry to see this. Nothing but excuses from the seller. I hope everyone gets their money back from thus guy.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
He's owes me some silver bars but I'm not holding my breath waiting for them.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I wish that for every CU members that have been scammed by thieves like this, they'd send me a buck each. I'll be a lil richer. Plus they won't have the stress & aggravation of going online & explain everything etc., and finally they'll get a thank you card from me.
Just to set the record, I have personally bought and sold over $100K of coins, GSA cards & boxes, 1st edition redbook with various CU members (dealers & collectors) with only 2 returns, one a GSA card & a coin worth less than $200.00. Everything else was 100% satisfactory.
His last post was July 26 at 1:00 ET. I'm guessing we won't be hearing from him.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Thinking I'm out $140 also. Tracking started July 14 and then nothing.
This transaction as been a shit show
1. Sent me the wrong cards, had to send those back
2. Did receive cards. But was missing 7 cards and 4 were damaged
3. Said he would sent 11 to fix the problem. Tracking started July 14 then poof.
Said he give a refund 2 days ago. No response since I asked for pay pal.
# 2 Pete Rose Master Set , also collecting 1977 topps baseball in psa 9 and psa 10
@MilesWaits said:
Wow. Some big hitters with typically good judgment got heisted?
Why? What was the allure?
I bought from him in the past without any problems. I guess he was setting me up for a big score. He also used me and another forum member as a reference in his sig line.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I was able to put a stop payment on my check. So far it hasn't been debited from my account even though he claimed to have deposited it in his account on Tues. Looks like the stop payment worked.
I got lucky this time.
References: Too many to list. PM for details. 100% satisfaction both as buyer and seller. As a seller, I ship promptly and keep buyers updated.
Those packages were never shipped out..I wouldn't be surprised if he got refunded for the labels, afterwards, too. Lame..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I messaged him on (2) 10 oz silver bars he was offering and told him to send me a PayPal Invoice,,,,
He said he didn't take PayPal,,,,,,, I told him I only pay for on-line purchases via PayPal, didn't do the deal.
I am sure you guys are looking into this but you have his name if you sent him checks or money orders,,,,,, can you contact the Post Office where the labels are supposedly scanned as accepted and see if someone with that name works there? Even if they won't tell you I am sure they would look into who scanned those labels as accepted and see if anything is wrong since they haven't moved since scanned as accepted.
The Post Office can see alot more than they make public. If they scan a package and leave it at your porch a satellite photo is taken and the Post Master at the Post Office can bring it up to prove a package was left as stated.
They can also ping a scan within a few feet to tell where a carrier left it.
He moved out of his sisters guest house on Wednesday (kind of suddon dont you think?). I may receive his new address sometime next week or so. All information was verified in person.
@tizofthe said:
He moved out of his sisters guest house on Wednesday (kind of suddon dont you think?). I may receive his new address sometime next week or so. All information was verified in person.
@tizofthe said:
He moved out of his sisters guest house on Wednesday (kind of suddon dont you think?). I may receive his new address sometime next week or so. All information was verified in person.
???
Working on collective info. He cant run forever. Stay tuned.
KollectorKing Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭ July 30, 2017 2:52PM @oldstandard said:
"where is he now in hiding"
here w/another alt.
awaiting to spring another "deal.
My understanding is he did something like this before. The chance of it happening again is very high. Need to look for new member joining the BST. How many can there be?
what is this about a leg growing back? Was or is he missing a leg ? A thriller with a mysterious one legged man . Where is David Janssen when you need him?
I hope everything works out for those who were scammed by this guy. If I could just give some advice as far as recourse is concerned - I would keep any plans and progress towards a resolution to yourselves collectively via PMs or email or phone. He still can be lurking here reading this thread even though he's not logged in. It's hard to get check mate, if he knows your next move.
@derryb said:
can't our host see the IP address that a new account signs up from. You'd think they would have a way to block IP's of banned members.
there are many pcs at a public library that one can use to sign up.
unless he lives at the library our host should be able to block his IP at home from logging in. I would hope that every time our host bans a member they also put a block on the IP for future logins.
Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat
Of course the "juiciest" details are being kept via PM. We are not on his tail and don't see how he can run from this.
Derry, of course there are IP recourses. Not difficult.
As far as his "next scam" we should implement a rule that if you are new then you ship first. When he makes his next alt it will be easy to find out (again) so I will warn others (again) so hopefully everyone will heed my warning next time...
@derryb said:
can't our host see the IP address that a new account signs up from. You'd think they would have a way to block IP's of banned members.
there are many pcs at a public library that one can use to sign up.
unless he lives at the library our host should be able to block his IP at home from logging in. I would hope that every time our host bans a member they also put a block on the IP for future logins.
the problem w/that is many different people may use the same pc.
PCGS should close down the BST. It's apparent they don't supervise it and take a hands off approach as to who conducts business, which might involve scam artists or fraud. Similar to Craigslist.
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
@derryb said:
can't our host see the IP address that a new account signs up from. You'd think they would have a way to block IP's of banned members.
there are many pcs at a public library that one can use to sign up.
unless he lives at the library our host should be able to block his IP at home from logging in. I would hope that every time our host bans a member they also put a block on the IP for future logins.
the problem w/that is many different people may use the same pc.
Everyone in Ames who uses my internet provider has the same IP, so by banning one IP address you end up banning many others who use it.
@OPA said:
PCGS should close down the BST. It's apparent they don't supervise it and take a hands off approach as to who conducts business, which might involve scam artists or fraud. Similar to Craigslist.
@OPA said:
PCGS should close down the BST. It's apparent they don't supervise it and take a hands off approach as to who conducts business, which might involve scam artists or fraud. Similar to Craigslist.
Why? Everyone should just do a little DD.
Because it's been an ongoing problem for several years now and just getting worse.
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
People keep talking IP addresses and banning's, But I don't think either of his accounts have been banned.
I don't think they should remove the BST thread, that would punish the 98% who use it responsibly. I do like the idea of new members shipping first though.
@BruceS said:
People keep talking IP addresses and banning's, But I don't think either of his accounts have been banned.
I don't think they should remove the BST thread, that would punish the 98% who use it responsibly. I do like the idea of new members shipping first though.
That will be up to each party to work out. I doubt that PCGS will put any conditions on business being done here.
I'd hate to lose the BST forum. I would guess that 50% of my PM holdings are from forum members. I usually deal with the same circle of guys. Always have received top notch service.
Comments
I took a quick look at the profiles and this coincidence is a little concerning. Does not prove anything obviously.
Sorry to those having trouble, and to zestee if this is really all just a series of unfortunate circumstances.
Collector, occasional seller
"I'm out $500 right now, could have been more.....bigzestee where are you right now?"
He is long gone but.....I am on his trail.
more to come...
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Very sorry to see this. Nothing but excuses from the seller. I hope everyone gets their money back from thus guy.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
He's owes me some silver bars but I'm not holding my breath waiting for them.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
He's probably just on line at the Post Office
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I wish that for every CU members that have been scammed by thieves like this, they'd send me a buck each. I'll be a lil richer. Plus they won't have the stress & aggravation of going online & explain everything etc., and finally they'll get a thank you card from me.
Just to set the record, I have personally bought and sold over $100K of coins, GSA cards & boxes, 1st edition redbook with various CU members (dealers & collectors) with only 2 returns, one a GSA card & a coin worth less than $200.00. Everything else was 100% satisfactory.
Has anyone heard from him lately? is he still corresponding back and forth with excuses? or did he hit the proverbial bricks?
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He is on the run because the excuses ran out (just like last time.) He now owes people $ from at least two aliases.
Be careful if a new member shows up!
His last post was July 26 at 1:00 ET. I'm guessing we won't be hearing from him.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Thinking I'm out $140 also. Tracking started July 14 and then nothing.
This transaction as been a shit show
1. Sent me the wrong cards, had to send those back
2. Did receive cards. But was missing 7 cards and 4 were damaged
3. Said he would sent 11 to fix the problem. Tracking started July 14 then poof.
Said he give a refund 2 days ago. No response since I asked for pay pal.
collecting 1977 topps baseball in psa 9 and psa 10
Wow. Some big hitters with typically good judgment got heisted?
Why? What was the allure?
A "deal" " too good to be true"?
I bought from him in the past without any problems. I guess he was setting me up for a big score. He also used me and another forum member as a reference in his sig line.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
greed
that + greed
why has his avatar not been replaced with the red one?
Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat
I was able to put a stop payment on my check. So far it hasn't been debited from my account even though he claimed to have deposited it in his account on Tues. Looks like the stop payment worked.
I got lucky this time.
Those packages were never shipped out..I wouldn't be surprised if he got refunded for the labels, afterwards, too. Lame..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Won't be hearing from him on that alias.
I guess he pulled a Houdini !!!
I messaged him on (2) 10 oz silver bars he was offering and told him to send me a PayPal Invoice,,,,
He said he didn't take PayPal,,,,,,, I told him I only pay for on-line purchases via PayPal, didn't do the deal.
I am sure you guys are looking into this but you have his name if you sent him checks or money orders,,,,,, can you contact the Post Office where the labels are supposedly scanned as accepted and see if someone with that name works there? Even if they won't tell you I am sure they would look into who scanned those labels as accepted and see if anything is wrong since they haven't moved since scanned as accepted.
The Post Office can see alot more than they make public. If they scan a package and leave it at your porch a satellite photo is taken and the Post Master at the Post Office can bring it up to prove a package was left as stated.
They can also ping a scan within a few feet to tell where a carrier left it.
BIG BROTHER really is watching,,,,,,,,,,,
where is he now in hiding
here w/another alt. awaiting to spring another "deal."
any update from the buyers?
Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat
He moved out of his sisters guest house on Wednesday (kind of suddon dont you think?). I may receive his new address sometime next week or so. All information was verified in person.
wondercoin, duffman,PiecesOfMe, Smittys, LogPotato, Bumanchu, Tydye, segoja, Harry779, FullCameo, Twosidestoeverycoin, jmdm1194, rkfish, drewsef, Chrischampeo, Kaelasdad, Ahrensdad, Dabigkahuna, Barbwire, sebrown, mkman123, Gerard
???
Working on collective info. He cant run forever. Stay tuned.
Did his leg grow back?
Successful transactions with Schmitz7, Bigbuck1975, chumley, CCHunter, Smittys, Gerard, Tookybandit, MorganMan94, LogPotato, coinlieutenant, GoldCoin98, pcgs69, Kccoin, ajaan, JBN, BLee23,....
LOL!
KollectorKing Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭ July 30, 2017 2:52PM
@oldstandard said:
"where is he now in hiding"
here w/another alt.
awaiting to spring another "deal.
My understanding is he did something like this before. The chance of it happening again is very high. Need to look for new member joining the BST. How many can there be?
wondercoin, duffman,PiecesOfMe, Smittys, LogPotato, Bumanchu, Tydye, segoja, Harry779, FullCameo, Twosidestoeverycoin, jmdm1194, rkfish, drewsef, Chrischampeo, Kaelasdad, Ahrensdad, Dabigkahuna, Barbwire, sebrown, mkman123, Gerard
what is this about a leg growing back? Was or is he missing a leg ? A thriller with a mysterious one legged man . Where is David Janssen when you need him?
can't our host see the IP address that a new account signs up from. You'd think they would have a way to block IP's of banned members.
Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat
I hope everything works out for those who were scammed by this guy. If I could just give some advice as far as recourse is concerned - I would keep any plans and progress towards a resolution to yourselves collectively via PMs or email or phone. He still can be lurking here reading this thread even though he's not logged in. It's hard to get check mate, if he knows your next move.
I'd lay 3 to 1 that he already has another account, and is certainly reading everything.
Successful transactions with Schmitz7, Bigbuck1975, chumley, CCHunter, Smittys, Gerard, Tookybandit, MorganMan94, LogPotato, coinlieutenant, GoldCoin98, pcgs69, Kccoin, ajaan, JBN, BLee23,....
can't our host see the IP address that a new account signs up from. You'd think they would have a way to block IP's of banned members.
Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat
VPN?
there are many pcs at a public library that one can use to sign up.
unless he lives at the library our host should be able to block his IP at home from logging in. I would hope that every time our host bans a member they also put a block on the IP for future logins.
Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat
Of course the "juiciest" details are being kept via PM. We are not on his tail and don't see how he can run from this.
Derry, of course there are IP recourses. Not difficult.
As far as his "next scam" we should implement a rule that if you are new then you ship first. When he makes his next alt it will be easy to find out (again) so I will warn others (again) so hopefully everyone will heed my warning next time...
the problem w/that is many different people may use the same pc.
PCGS should close down the BST. It's apparent they don't supervise it and take a hands off approach as to who conducts business, which might involve scam artists or fraud. Similar to Craigslist.
Everyone in Ames who uses my internet provider has the same IP, so by banning one IP address you end up banning many others who use it.
Why? Everyone should just do a little DD.
Because it's been an ongoing problem for several years now and just getting worse.
People keep talking IP addresses and banning's, But I don't think either of his accounts have been banned.
I don't think they should remove the BST thread, that would punish the 98% who use it responsibly. I do like the idea of new members shipping first though.
Successful BST:here and ATS, bumanchu, wdrob, hashtag, KeeNoooo, mikej61, Yonico, Meltdown, BAJJERFAN, Excaliber, lordmarcovan, cucamongacoin, robkool, bradyc, tonedcointrader, mumu, Windycity, astrotrain, tizofthe, overdate, rwyarmch, mkman123, Timbuk3,GBurger717, airplanenut, coinkid855 ,illini420, michaeldixon, Weiss, Morpheus, Deepcoin, Collectorcoins, AUandAG, D.Schwager, blu62vette, morgan13, torinoCobra71.
That will be up to each party to work out. I doubt that PCGS will put any conditions on business being done here.
I'd hate to lose the BST forum. I would guess that 50% of my PM holdings are from forum members. I usually deal with the same circle of guys. Always have received top notch service.