Hey people it's not that difficult to conduct DD prior to completing a deal. When I did my 1st transaction here it was pure and simple. Why make a mtn out of a molehill?
This thread should be TTT daily as a public notice to newbies and veterans, as a learning tool to hopefully avoid the pitfalls and aggravations of a bad deal.
@derryb said:
can't our host see the IP address that a new account signs up from. You'd think they would have a way to block IP's of banned members.
That's the nuclear bomb method to solving the problem of your wife seeing 1 mouse in the house.
For ISPs, many of them "lease" a number (used to be ~30 days and could be renewed, but not sure lately). So, it can be a number released and then given to someone else. Original person gets a number but everything is totally transparent to 99.9999% of the end users so they never even really know.
Comcast, for example, will lease a number to the cable modem. Multiple PCs can run off that, for instance, with Wifi and such, so, 1 IP address may have multiple PCs attached. Make a couple of those laptops/tablets, and they are now portable and can be anywhere they have wifi.
So, by banning an IP, with very few exceptions, you are banning whole blocks of people. They may or may not be users and so they may not notice, but getting a new IP is not that hard at all.
Also, as someone mentioned, VPNs are more prevalent now and would be an instant work around.
As for OPA suggesting to close down the BST......again, that's taking a small problem (%-wise, scams are a very small part of all the transactions done on the BST) and using a solution that would be more applicable to the inverse of the %.
PCGS has ALWAYS said they don't/won't police the BST. It is left there as a courtesy and up to members to manage. When they are made aware of problems, they will (re)act, but they have to be made aware and there needs to be concrete evidence.....not just "feelings"......
Natchez14 Posts: 61 ✭✭
July 31, 2017 8:41AM edited July 31, 2017 8:41AM
I'd lay 3 to 1 that he already has another account, and is certainly reading everything.
I agree but this is temporary. He will no longer be reading anything the next few weeks.
@tizofthe said:
Natchez14 Posts: 61 ✭✭
July 31, 2017 8:41AM edited July 31, 2017 8:41AM
I'd lay 3 to 1 that he already has another account, and is certainly reading everything.
I agree but this is temporary. He will no longer be reading anything the next few weeks.
Can someone please explain to me if there is any possible recourse that member s are taking who paid monies to bigzeetee and didn't receive their item (s)
@LukeMarshall said:
Can someone please explain to me if there is any possible recourse that member s are taking who paid monies to bigzeetee and didn't receive their item (s)
Thank you
-Luke
File mail fraud claims with USPS.
If you paid with check, call your banks fraud department.
Write down everything that transpired. Data is your friend.
Wait and hope.
@LukeMarshall said:
Can someone please explain to me if there is any possible recourse that member s are taking who paid monies to bigzeetee and didn't receive their item (s)
Thank you
-Luke
File mail fraud claims with USPS.
If you paid with check, call your banks fraud department.
Write down everything that transpired. Data is your friend.
Wait and hope.
@LukeMarshall said:
Can someone please explain to me if there is any possible recourse that member s are taking who paid monies to bigzeetee and didn't receive their item (s)
Thank you
-Luke
File mail fraud claims with USPS.
If you paid with check, call your banks fraud department.
Write down everything that transpired. Data is your friend.
Wait and hope.
And call Canton, Ohio's police department.
This is great advise. I suggest you coordinate all your calls one hour apart on the same day
mark
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@LukeMarshall said:
Can someone please explain to me if there is any possible recourse that member s are taking who paid monies to bigzeetee and didn't receive their item (s)
Thank you
-Luke
File mail fraud claims with USPS.
If you paid with check, call your banks fraud department.
Write down everything that transpired. Data is your friend.
Wait and hope.
And call Canton, Ohio's police department.
Canton?
I called Louisville, OH PD and they coulda cared less. Told me to call my local sheriff. I have another town in OH to look into but it's not Canton.
The posts by him earlier with all those bogus tracking numbers were just to buy a bit more time. He's long gone now, unfortunately.
I guess the "pile jumpers" were right about what was going on, after all.
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@GRANDAM said:
Anyone figure out how packages were shown as scanned and accepted but never showed any more movement?
The shipments that have not been accepted by usps were never delivered to usps.
Package Intercept for $12.95 to recall a package but I would assume tracking would show the final destination. If the package is for goods paid for then this would probably constitute mail fraud.
Curious to know if all the tracking in question that does show "accepted" suddenly stopped at the same distribution point. If so and the tracking just suddenly stopped and never updated, then I would suspect some in side help from a USPS employee at that location. I suggest the buyers who got scammed compare tracking info, USPS just might be interested if everything went dark at the same location.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
IIRC, almost all but one package simply showed that a USPS label was printed.
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I know I miss some good deals, but I have something against dealing with new board members.
When I have, it is been cautiously and even then, it was "ship to me first and then I will pay you".
I'm ok taking a "no" at any point of that discussion. I am risk adverse.
mkman123 - yes, this is my update. He no longer lives in Canton or Louisville, OH but a town
north of their called Atwater. Sense his escape with the members he moved from Louisville back to Canton with his girlfriend and within the last two weeks move to Atwater on his own. Guess his girlfriend couldn’t tolerate him either. I cant add more information because because theres a good chance he is reading our post. Just because he gone with the @bigzestee name, doesnt mean he donst have another name he is using.
More to come...
I called Louisville, OH PD and they coulda cared less. Told me to call my local sheriff. I have another town in OH to look into but it's not Canton.
It takes more than one person to contact the local the police and more than one time. It takes daily calls from multip pople tohave this matter looked into. The ewpaper is your firend. You will get much further if you use them but dont stop the calls to the Canton police. Iworking onthe newpaperr bit but cant do it all myself!
Why doesn't someone here buy a label and never use it and see what happens with tracking?
Buy the cheapest possible first class label and do nothing , then maybe wait 13 days and file for a refund or whatever the time limit is. Post the tracking number and then those interested can see what the tracking info looks like for a label never sent then later refunded.
That would be thru the PO they charge up front . Others services are different , I have a Fed ex account and I know that I can create a label a tracking inquiry will show that but if it never gets used I won't be billed. I'm not sure how UPS does it.
It occurs to me that with usps you can also void an unused label within 48 hours , that is another permutation.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
It Looks like he may be gone for good. My findings are this: He never placed anything in his name which makes him near impossible to find with no paper trail. He no longer lives with his girlfriend who he moved in with right after he left the BST. Sounds like he’s on the run? again.
Louisville Police won’t do anything because as they state "I’m the only person who called that I know of" and my loss amount "does not equate to 1K or more". This guy just up and vanished without a trace. If I started my search 3 days earlier this may have turned out differently.
So here is where we are. No residence, no place of business, no car (licensed to him) and hate to say it. But limited help from those people who got taken by this guy. Those of you who did contact Louisville Police accepted what they said and moved on without taking "NO" for an answer. More power with numbers guys as I stated in previous post.
I will stay on top of this for a while longer as its almost guaranteed he will pop up again. Either on the BST board or in-person. Sure, wish I had better news for you.
General numbers: If EVERYONE wants to jump onboard. I am willing to add a little more time., providing each person list on the BST .... when they called, the time, who they spoke to and their reply.
I will also need.
1. the loss amount $$$
2. the address or PO box
3. phone numbers and conversation made or attempted to contact
I will contact the newspaper (again) once I have a complete list with
Thanks for your hard work! What a dirtbag he is........get a frigging JOB Michael Hardin or whatever your name is instead of trying to take other peoples hard earned money!!
Add me to the list. I lost $500 to this thief. I wonder if anyone in the sports card forum have lost anything to him? I know that myself and others got baseball/sports cards from him "accidentally" except I bet it was more of a ploy.
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Hey people it's not that difficult to conduct DD prior to completing a deal. When I did my 1st transaction here it was pure and simple. Why make a mtn out of a molehill?
Same folks been complaining about the BST as long as I been here. All I can figure they own a lot of eBay stock.
This thread should be TTT daily as a public notice to newbies and veterans, as a learning tool to hopefully avoid the pitfalls and aggravations of a bad deal.
These scammers are too dimwitted to realise that it's relatively easy to find out who they really are, where they live, work, etc,
don't think Bernie is "dimwitted."
That's the nuclear bomb method to solving the problem of your wife seeing 1 mouse in the house.
For ISPs, many of them "lease" a number (used to be ~30 days and could be renewed, but not sure lately). So, it can be a number released and then given to someone else. Original person gets a number but everything is totally transparent to 99.9999% of the end users so they never even really know.
Comcast, for example, will lease a number to the cable modem. Multiple PCs can run off that, for instance, with Wifi and such, so, 1 IP address may have multiple PCs attached. Make a couple of those laptops/tablets, and they are now portable and can be anywhere they have wifi.
So, by banning an IP, with very few exceptions, you are banning whole blocks of people. They may or may not be users and so they may not notice, but getting a new IP is not that hard at all.
Also, as someone mentioned, VPNs are more prevalent now and would be an instant work around.
As for OPA suggesting to close down the BST......again, that's taking a small problem (%-wise, scams are a very small part of all the transactions done on the BST) and using a solution that would be more applicable to the inverse of the %.
PCGS has ALWAYS said they don't/won't police the BST. It is left there as a courtesy and up to members to manage. When they are made aware of problems, they will (re)act, but they have to be made aware and there needs to be concrete evidence.....not just "feelings"......
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Natchez14 Posts: 61 ✭✭
July 31, 2017 8:41AM edited July 31, 2017 8:41AM
I'd lay 3 to 1 that he already has another account, and is certainly reading everything.
I agree but this is temporary. He will no longer be reading anything the next few weeks.
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Did you bust him in the eyes?
I'd be curious to know roughly how much in total folks were taken for.
My guesstimate is a low 4 digit number.
You talking about his jail cell#?
That too & he and Baba are cell mates.
BAJJERFAN Posts: 27,443 ✭✭✭✭ August 1, 2017 12:19PM
Did you bust him in the eyes?
Not quite but close...by the way...how is your granddaughter (munchkin I think it was). Havent seen pics in quit awhile...like 10years or something
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I'm curious now, please tell @tizofthe , you can't leave us guessing now can you?
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Hey all still out of country....hoping tizofthe can share some info soon. Lets get him so this doesnt happen to others
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hope this scum get what he deserves. he is gone in the wind with our $$$
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Can someone please explain to me if there is any possible recourse that member s are taking who paid monies to bigzeetee and didn't receive their item (s)
Thank you
-Luke
It's all about what the people want...
File mail fraud claims with USPS.
If you paid with check, call your banks fraud department.
Write down everything that transpired. Data is your friend.
Wait and hope.
And call Canton, Ohio's police department.
This is great advise. I suggest you coordinate all your calls one hour apart on the same day
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Canton?
I called Louisville, OH PD and they coulda cared less. Told me to call my local sheriff. I have another town in OH to look into but it's not Canton.
Persistence pays off.
the sentence is in GUILTY
bigzestee can you chime in an kindly give us an update so we can clear your name of wrong doing.
he is long gone guys im sure.
collecting 1977 topps baseball in psa 9 and psa 10
The posts by him earlier with all those bogus tracking numbers were just to buy a bit more time. He's long gone now, unfortunately.
I guess the "pile jumpers" were right about what was going on, after all.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
"Pile jumpers" are right most of the time.
I ain't done with the little peckerwood yet.
Anyone figure out how packages were shown as scanned and accepted but never showed any more movement?
The shipments that have not been accepted by usps were never delivered to usps.
Package Intercept for $12.95 to recall a package but I would assume tracking would show the final destination. If the package is for goods paid for then this would probably constitute mail fraud.
Curious to know if all the tracking in question that does show "accepted" suddenly stopped at the same distribution point. If so and the tracking just suddenly stopped and never updated, then I would suspect some in side help from a USPS employee at that location. I suggest the buyers who got scammed compare tracking info, USPS just might be interested if everything went dark at the same location.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
IIRC, almost all but one package simply showed that a USPS label was printed.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Get the little fraud master I say get him
For some of us like myself, he basically bought a label but never shipped at all.
@tizofthe any leads/updates on your end?
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I know I miss some good deals, but I have something against dealing with new board members.
When I have, it is been cautiously and even then, it was "ship to me first and then I will pay you".
I'm ok taking a "no" at any point of that discussion. I am risk adverse.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
most of the tracking numbers were never actually scanned. Peckerwood would create a label and SAY he was dropping it off at PO.
Tracking doesn't show destination.
mkman123 - yes, this is my update. He no longer lives in Canton or Louisville, OH but a town
north of their called Atwater. Sense his escape with the members he moved from Louisville back to Canton with his girlfriend and within the last two weeks move to Atwater on his own. Guess his girlfriend couldn’t tolerate him either. I cant add more information because because theres a good chance he is reading our post. Just because he gone with the @bigzestee name, doesnt mean he donst have another name he is using.
More to come...
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mission - Canton?
I called Louisville, OH PD and they coulda cared less. Told me to call my local sheriff. I have another town in OH to look into but it's not Canton.
It takes more than one person to contact the local the police and more than one time. It takes daily calls from multip pople tohave this matter looked into. The ewpaper is your firend. You will get much further if you use them but dont stop the calls to the Canton police. Iworking onthe newpaperr bit but cant do it all myself!
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Would your PO tell you if those labels got refunded?
Why doesn't someone here buy a label and never use it and see what happens with tracking?
Buy the cheapest possible first class label and do nothing , then maybe wait 13 days and file for a refund or whatever the time limit is. Post the tracking number and then those interested can see what the tracking info looks like for a label never sent then later refunded.
That would be thru the PO they charge up front . Others services are different , I have a Fed ex account and I know that I can create a label a tracking inquiry will show that but if it never gets used I won't be billed. I'm not sure how UPS does it.
It occurs to me that with usps you can also void an unused label within 48 hours , that is another permutation.
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You can void it anytime as long as it hasn't been scanned. Tracking is normally available for 30 days so I guess it would sit at least that long.
Tiz- why not post PD and paper names and phone numbers you are using here so others can participate?
And I have NO doubt peckerwood is reading these posts.
Mission16
"Tiz- why not post PD and paper names and phone numbers you are using here so others can participate?
"And I have NO doubt peckerwood is reading these posts."
This is the reason why. Why give him a chance to evade once again.
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This thread is now a manhunt?
Let's see the wanted posters.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Puff....is that you?
Any more updates?
It Looks like he may be gone for good. My findings are this: He never placed anything in his name which makes him near impossible to find with no paper trail. He no longer lives with his girlfriend who he moved in with right after he left the BST. Sounds like he’s on the run? again.
Louisville Police won’t do anything because as they state "I’m the only person who called that I know of" and my loss amount "does not equate to 1K or more". This guy just up and vanished without a trace. If I started my search 3 days earlier this may have turned out differently.
So here is where we are. No residence, no place of business, no car (licensed to him) and hate to say it. But limited help from those people who got taken by this guy. Those of you who did contact Louisville Police accepted what they said and moved on without taking "NO" for an answer. More power with numbers guys as I stated in previous post.
I will stay on top of this for a while longer as its almost guaranteed he will pop up again. Either on the BST board or in-person. Sure, wish I had better news for you.
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General numbers: If EVERYONE wants to jump onboard. I am willing to add a little more time., providing each person list on the BST .... when they called, the time, who they spoke to and their reply.
I will also need.
1. the loss amount $$$
2. the address or PO box
3. phone numbers and conversation made or attempted to contact
I will contact the newspaper (again) once I have a complete list with
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Repository - (330) 580-8300
Louisville, OH Police - Chief Andrew Turowski - (330) 875-3321 - ask for PD
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@tizofthe
Thanks for your hard work! What a dirtbag he is........get a frigging JOB Michael Hardin or whatever your name is instead of trying to take other peoples hard earned money!!
Add me to the list. I lost $500 to this thief. I wonder if anyone in the sports card forum have lost anything to him? I know that myself and others got baseball/sports cards from him "accidentally" except I bet it was more of a ploy.
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