I have two questions for you pile jumpers how many of you have ever had or read about someone here having a problem with the postal service? The only thing different is that since they were more regarded they didn't get jumped.Should I list things at prices that will either get lowballed down or will just sit for months not selling like the norm around here?I sold at higher than Apmex would give me to send to them which everyone was fine with until I would not take PayPal then it was a problem.Never mind the references never mind the promotions never mind all of it it's easier to *itch and moan and jump on the freaking pile.
@bronco2078 said:
Not taking paypal is always a red flag. In person I want cash obviously but online when it comes to something like bullion where the price bounces up and down by the minute do an instant payment and ship the same day should be the rule.
Name 2 reasons to refuse paypal?
A.) If the 3% fee puts you underwater on a deal then you are in the wrong business
B.) don't want any records generated then don't sell online where hundreds of back and forth emails, private messages etc are a complete record of everything anyway without the 1099 showing up at the end of the year. The government is reading it all if they feel like it so act accordingly. Childs play to read a message thread then match up a check transaction for the IRS or whoever is interested.
Its always been a head scratch-er to me when it comes to any of the BST 's . buy better initially or don't buy at all . If 3% is a deal breaker you bought wrong or held on too long , time to re evaluate . not just bullion either. If you are doing a set and fill a hole then upgrade it a month later and sell the first coin at a loss once in a while fine but if its a habit then better save some of that money for a good therapist .
There are easier ways of making money than buying 5 ASEs for 15 somewhere and selling them for 17 on the BST , if you do that its not a business and its not a hobby its more like masturbation If you buy at 17 and sell at 15 then the 3% is the least of your problems
I will give you two reasons read the horror stories of them screwing with peoples money for however long they like and in a market where prices go up and down daily how easy would it be for someone to file a not as described claim if silver took a $.50 or higher crap in a day or week?
@mkman123 said:
Here is the tracking for my packages, both still say pre-shipment. Per the post office, this means labels were created but they themselves cannot verify if the package shipped.
So I'm in limbo right now just waiting and waiting.
It's always best to walk an insured/labeled high value shipment into the post office and ask for an acceptance scan. This proves that it is in the post office delivery system and is invaluable in the event of a loss claim.
Status of your two tracking numbers would not allow for an insurance claim with the USPS. And because there is no proof that the shipments were even delivered to the post office you are over due on a refund from your seller.
The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong
Same tactics. He will provide you with tracking info then never drop it off.
Everyone take a moment and look up "metalsaver1970" (you know, the same guy that wouldn't take paypal?) Same guy with horrible grainy pictures of his "items."
Pretty sure this guy is also based out of ohio.
I warned many members here. Some heeded my warnings and some didnt.
If anyone wants further proof you may contact me (will give you collective info from other members previously scammed by this dude as well)
About time you made yourself known in front the class instead of running behind a curtain. There is a lot of people here that does not take PayPal and others that live in Ohio too they all must be scamming though.I have very clear pictures of my items that I sold here and that buyers received and became references from.Where in Ohio is that dbag metalsaver from so I can blow that out of the water too?
Hum... wonder what the seller is going to say about @mkman123 packages. Seems strange they were never sent to the PO. This guy has so many outstanding packages he cant keep up whos who. Such as his BS about about some so-called Kennedys.
I know now. as I said..."OK I see the title changed to just the kennedys for sale. Still noreply". I mistyped (doubt it or you added it in then took a screen shot). I was asking about the ASE you said sold and you know it. I could put up a link as well but what does it prove. Anyone can chage anything just like what you did.
Also you said in your first post above "I joined tried to claim I ripped him off on some silver half dollars that we never had any negotiations over". I would also like to see that post but Im sure you will add your cutting and pasting to the mix. Remember...I have done a ton of business with the members. Oh thats right...so have you. To bad they are all going south. By the way. Its been three weeks. Why hasnt anyone been refunded. Take 5 minutes. Oh again all you have is excuses and time to cut and paste. Sense you post EVERYTHING. Why dont you post your address, phone number and the name and phone number of the PO Box busineess you use to rip people off. That would settle allot. But you would rather waste time arguring its not your falut and bringing up the tiny sales you made (to hook others) as a valid point as to why everyone elses coins has not arrived.
I'm confused, how many buyers have not received their purchases from this seller? Would each of you please quote to this post and tell us dollar amount, status of your tracking number(s), when you purchased and what the seller has told you.
Lots of heresay and speculation in this thread. Let's get the facts.
The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong
@TomB said:
ChrisRx-The USPS tracking number provided by perryhall (USPS number 9407803699300033548850) shows it was accepted or picked up for initial processing out of Louisville, OH. You are correct in your belief that this package may have originated in OH.
Thanks Tom, we can now add that to the extremely long list of circumstantial evidence i/we already have. He owes lots of $ still to members here from the end of last year.
Sellers response to ChrisRx - "About time you made yourself known in front the class instead of running behind a curtain." am I missing something here or should this be the other way around.
@mkman123 said:
Here is the tracking for my packages, both still say pre-shipment. Per the post office, this means labels were created but they themselves cannot verify if the package shipped.
So I'm in limbo right now just waiting and waiting.
Sorry you are involved.
When did you consummate the deal?
When was he to ship?
When date did the "pre-shipment" happen?
Curious
mark
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Hate to say it but reading the rambling narrative offered by the seller ....you guys may be screwed.
As a long time seller of impeccable quality and reputation, I can say that my response to panicked buyers would in no way resemble to sporadic, excuse laden, 8th grade word salad employed by the scammer.
"bigzestee Posts: 129 ✭✭✭ March 21, 2017 8:44AM @massscrew There wasn't any dodgy communication.I didn't get to log on for 3 days to respond to tizofthe's comment and there wasn't any deal between us.I never got a pm from that member either.No communication after I responded to the comment until I bumped the thread.Then that member seemed to act like they got shorted."
Your own words from March 21st. I see no place where I replied for Kennedys. I said you shorted me? Now you sold me some Kennedys? which is it? If all what you say is true, why would you still do business with me after I slammed you (your first response in this thread). This guy told so many lies to so many people he can’t keep them straight. Now he is backpaddling without any water in the lake. This guy will say and do anything to make himself look good. Why is it always the PO or someone’s else fault? He hasn’t produced any legit proof he did anything except take people money. So why is it he still comes on the board to clear his name and degrade good standing members. Could it be one more fraudulent sale is better than none at all. We know nothing about him (so he thinks ) except for what he tells us. NOTHING is verifiable.
This is a classic case of a scammer stealing from veteran buyers who should know better. The signs were clearly there:
1. if a deal is too good to be true, it is..,how many time have we seen this repeated here and everywhere?
2. no paypal no deal
3. relatively new member w/zero or few CU references.
end of story.
ps - this story has happened time and time again. How many times can such low life take your $$ before you'll learn?
@carew4me said:
Hate to say it but reading the rambling narrative offered by the seller ....you guys may be screwed.
As a long time seller of impeccable quality and reputation, I can say that my response to panicked buyers would in no way resemble to sporadic, excuse laden, 8th grade word salad employed by the scammer.
I word be surprised if you were wrong. That's what my gut said immediately. I'll be happy to send an apology via the post office to Bigzestee if I'm wrong. I'll provide the pre-shipment notice to all
mark
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
The same word salad, reactive, emotionally laden response members will get from the current "under spot" seller on the BST that sporadically offers no profit deals - and people bite.
@mkman123 said:
Here is the tracking for my packages, both still say pre-shipment. Per the post office, this means labels were created but they themselves cannot verify if the package shipped.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
While it doesn't excude confidence I have to admit I like Bigzestee's handle
mark
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@Justacommeman
Tracking #1 shows a pre shipment of 7/16 and Tracking #2 shows a preshipment of 7/20/17. Both are priority mail packages. I had sent payment to bigzestee in the form of postal money orders. I hope others can give updates on their tracking #s and if they indeed get their package.
@BAJJERFAN I don't think it will show if someone cancelled a shipment
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@mkman123 said: @Justacommeman
Tracking #1 shows a pre shipment of 7/16 and Tracking #2 shows a preshipment of 7/20/17. Both are priority mail packages. I had sent payment to bigzestee in the form of postal money orders. I hope others can give updates on their tracking #s and if they indeed get their package.
@BAJJERFAN I don't think it will show if someone cancelled a shipment
When did he receive the money order?
Good luck. I want to believe the seller in the worst way
Mark
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@mkman123 said: @Justacommeman
Tracking #1 shows a pre shipment of 7/16 and Tracking #2 shows a preshipment of 7/20/17. Both are priority mail packages. I had sent payment to bigzestee in the form of postal money orders. I hope others can give updates on their tracking #s and if they indeed get their package.
@BAJJERFAN I don't think it will show if someone cancelled a shipment
When did he receive the money order?
Good luck. I want to believe the seller in the worst way
Mark
Believe in What? If he does have (or even ship) merchandise, it's surely bought with scammed $ from our members under his other alias "metalsaver1970."
Best case scenario: You receive stolen merchandise
Worst case scenario: You "contributed" to the scam to add more "bait" for the next time.
What a mess this has turned into. It always stings more getting burned on these boards. Its one thing to get screwed by some random dead beat on Ebay, but on here....even though we only know each other by the avatars next to our user names....its more personal.
Chris, can you please further explain why you believe the seller is an alt? Purely syntax? Same method as other guy etc? Just wondering...
At this point it definitely appears that there is a scam being worked... but I would like to see a coherent layout of facts... I think, just because, I am nosey.
I don't think it's in the best interest of this forum to publicly expose everything. It's not prudent. But I believe, like Chris, that BigZestee and Metalsaver70 are the same person. And I don't expect anyone waiting for product or a refund from him will get it.
Call the law. Call the Feds. Someone rented that box.
When you rent a PO box are you required to produce a photo identity?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
@mkman123 said: @Justacommeman
Tracking #1 shows a pre shipment of 7/16 and Tracking #2 shows a preshipment of 7/20/17. Both are priority mail packages. I had sent payment to bigzestee in the form of postal money orders. I hope others can give updates on their tracking #s and if they indeed get their package.
@BAJJERFAN I don't think it will show if someone cancelled a shipment
When did he receive the money order?
Good luck. I want to believe the seller in the worst way
Mark
Believe in What? If he does have (or even ship) merchandise, it's surely bought with scammed $ from our members under his other alias "metalsaver1970."
Best case scenario: You receive stolen merchandise
Worst case scenario: You "contributed" to the scam to add more "bait" for the next time.
I'm glad you are 100% sure. I'm not quite there yet
m
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@Relaxn said:
Chris, can you please further explain why you believe the seller is an alt? Purely syntax? Same method as other guy etc? Just wondering...
At this point it definitely appears that there is a scam being worked... but I would like to see a coherent layout of facts... I think, just because, I am nosey.
@mkman123 said: @Justacommeman
Tracking #1 shows a pre shipment of 7/16 and Tracking #2 shows a preshipment of 7/20/17. Both are priority mail packages. I had sent payment to bigzestee in the form of postal money orders. I hope others can give updates on their tracking #s and if they indeed get their package.
@BAJJERFAN I don't think it will show if someone cancelled a shipment
When did he receive the money order?
Good luck. I want to believe the seller in the worst way
Mark
Believe in What? If he does have (or even ship) merchandise, it's surely bought with scammed $ from our members under his other alias "metalsaver1970."
Best case scenario: You receive stolen merchandise
Worst case scenario: You "contributed" to the scam to add more "bait" for the next time.
I'm glad you are 100% sure. I'm not quite there yet
@Natchez14 said:
I don't think it's in the best interest of this forum to publicly expose everything. It's not prudent. But I believe, like Chris, that BigZestee and Metalsaver70 are the same person. And I don't expect anyone waiting for product or a refund from him will get it.
Call the law. Call the Feds. Someone rented that box.
@mkman123 said: @Justacommeman
Tracking #1 shows a pre shipment of 7/16 and Tracking #2 shows a preshipment of 7/20/17. Both are priority mail packages. I had sent payment to bigzestee in the form of postal money orders. I hope others can give updates on their tracking #s and if they indeed get their package.
@BAJJERFAN I don't think it will show if someone cancelled a shipment
When did he receive the money order?
Good luck. I want to believe the seller in the worst way
Mark
Believe in What? If he does have (or even ship) merchandise, it's surely bought with scammed $ from our members under his other alias "metalsaver1970."
Best case scenario: You receive stolen merchandise
Worst case scenario: You "contributed" to the scam to add more "bait" for the next time.
I'm glad you are 100% sure. I'm not quite there yet
m
I'll get you to 100%. PM sent.
Noted with thanks
m
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
So to summate this mess, who is owed what at this point? I think it would be helpful for each member to plainly state
What is still outstanding and what has not been at least scanned in at the P.O..
Im not a "jumper on-er" im just holding on to the hope that it's not what is appears to be, and you guys willl be made whole. I'm not too optimistic. But hey, I've seen stranger things happen.
@mkman123 said: @Justacommeman
Tracking #1 shows a pre shipment of 7/16 and Tracking #2 shows a preshipment of 7/20/17. Both are priority mail packages. I had sent payment to bigzestee in the form of postal money orders. I hope others can give updates on their tracking #s and if they indeed get their package.
@BAJJERFAN I don't think it will show if someone cancelled a shipment
I've never checked myself, but if a label/tracking number has not been scanned at a PO, the postage can be refunded within x number of days.
@mkman123 said: @Justacommeman
Tracking #1 shows a pre shipment of 7/16 and Tracking #2 shows a preshipment of 7/20/17. Both are priority mail packages. I had sent payment to bigzestee in the form of postal money orders. I hope others can give updates on their tracking #s and if they indeed get their package.
@BAJJERFAN I don't think it will show if someone cancelled a shipment
I've never checked myself, but if a label/tracking number has not been scanned at a PO, the postage can be refunded within x number of days.
I think its 14 days , or if you cancel a label there is a 14 day period they take to make sure its not in use and then they refund you for the label
Has anyone ever talked to this guy? If so can you provide me his phone number. I need as much info as possible to guarantee this guy lives in a particular area. Once I'm 100% positive he is the seller who lives at a particular address. I will pass this information on to whomever wants it. This guy is very careful not to say anything about his location or where he lives. I would be surprised if a phone number exist.
Well since people sent him checks and money orders his name should be enough these days. Assuming he had it sent to a PO box that would further narrow down the search. Is this guys actual name the same as metalmaster70 or was that never divulged?
m
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@PerryHall said:
When you rent a PO box are you required to produce a photo identity?
Yes, you're supposed to be able to verify your name and actual address with utility bills, driver license or something like car insurance information. They do it so there is some sort of verification of who you are. Otherwise people would get PO boxes to have drugs/guns other contriband delivered with no reprocussions.
Whether every post office does that is a different story.
@tizofthe said:
Has anyone ever talked to this guy? If so can you provide me his phone number. I need as much info as possible to guarantee this guy lives in a particular area. Once I'm 100% positive he is the seller who lives at a particular address. I will pass this information on to whomever wants it. This guy is very careful not to say anything about his location or where he lives. I would be surprised if a phone number exist.
Just pm'd bigzestee that since I'm leaving overseas on the 30th and coming back Aug 9th, I will give it a bit more time and when I come back, if no packages come, I would like my money back.
I made two purchases from him. The tracking for the first package (9407803699300033548850) shows it was received by the post office on July 5 and it hasn't been scanned since. Yesterday Bigzestee he will file an insurance claim and he promised to send me a refund check so we will see. The second package has a tracking number but never made it to the post office.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
@bronco2078 said:
Not taking paypal is always a red flag. In person I want cash obviously but online when it comes to something like bullion where the price bounces up and down by the minute do an instant payment and ship the same day should be the rule.
Name 2 reasons to refuse paypal?
A.) If the 3% fee puts you underwater on a deal then you are in the wrong business
B.) don't want any records generated then don't sell online where hundreds of back and forth emails, private messages etc are a complete record of everything anyway without the 1099 showing up at the end of the year. The government is reading it all if they feel like it so act accordingly. Childs play to read a message thread then match up a check transaction for the IRS or whoever is interested.
Its always been a head scratch-er to me when it comes to any of the BST 's . buy better initially or don't buy at all . If 3% is a deal breaker you bought wrong or held on too long , time to re evaluate . not just bullion either. If you are doing a set and fill a hole then upgrade it a month later and sell the first coin at a loss once in a while fine but if its a habit then better save some of that money for a good therapist .
There are easier ways of making money than buying 5 ASEs for 15 somewhere and selling them for 17 on the BST , if you do that its not a business and its not a hobby its more like masturbation If you buy at 17 and sell at 15 then the 3% is the least of your problems
I will give you two reasons read the horror stories of them screwing with peoples money for however long they like and in a market where prices go up and down daily how easy would it be for someone to file a not as described claim if silver took a $.50 or higher crap in a day or week?
I'm more worried about crooked sellers sticking it to me than paypal
@derryb said:
I'm confused, how many buyers have not received their purchases from this seller? Would each of you please quote to this post and tell us dollar amount, status of your tracking number(s), when you purchased and what the seller has told you.
Lots of heresay and speculation in this thread. Let's get the facts.
2 transactions: $169.50 and $62.28. Tracking #'s I can't give because I cannot find the message he sent them to me in. And they were no good anyway.
The stories are about the same as the others.
What pi$$es me off about this is, yeah, I shoulda known better. but to me, selling at a little under spot on a forum make more sense than selling at a LOT under spot to a broker.
I'm out $500 right now, could have been more.....bigzestee where are you right now?
From now on, I'm going to only deal with established members and if I deal with a new member, no butts about it, they must ship first.
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I have two questions for you pile jumpers how many of you have ever had or read about someone here having a problem with the postal service? The only thing different is that since they were more regarded they didn't get jumped.Should I list things at prices that will either get lowballed down or will just sit for months not selling like the norm around here?I sold at higher than Apmex would give me to send to them which everyone was fine with until I would not take PayPal then it was a problem.Never mind the references never mind the promotions never mind all of it it's easier to *itch and moan and jump on the freaking pile.
BST references several
I will give you two reasons read the horror stories of them screwing with peoples money for however long they like and in a market where prices go up and down daily how easy would it be for someone to file a not as described claim if silver took a $.50 or higher crap in a day or week?
BST references several
Looks like label creation = obfuscation
It's always best to walk an insured/labeled high value shipment into the post office and ask for an acceptance scan. This proves that it is in the post office delivery system and is invaluable in the event of a loss claim.
Status of your two tracking numbers would not allow for an insurance claim with the USPS. And because there is no proof that the shipments were even delivered to the post office you are over due on a refund from your seller.
The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong
About time you made yourself known in front the class instead of running behind a curtain. There is a lot of people here that does not take PayPal and others that live in Ohio too they all must be scamming though.I have very clear pictures of my items that I sold here and that buyers received and became references from.Where in Ohio is that dbag metalsaver from so I can blow that out of the water too?
BST references several
bigzestee, did you previously sell under the ID of metalsaver1970?
The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong
Hum... wonder what the seller is going to say about @mkman123 packages. Seems strange they were never sent to the PO. This guy has so many outstanding packages he cant keep up whos who. Such as his BS about about some so-called Kennedys.
I know now. as I said..."OK I see the title changed to just the kennedys for sale. Still noreply". I mistyped (doubt it or you added it in then took a screen shot). I was asking about the ASE you said sold and you know it. I could put up a link as well but what does it prove. Anyone can chage anything just like what you did.
Also you said in your first post above "I joined tried to claim I ripped him off on some silver half dollars that we never had any negotiations over". I would also like to see that post but Im sure you will add your cutting and pasting to the mix. Remember...I have done a ton of business with the members. Oh thats right...so have you. To bad they are all going south. By the way. Its been three weeks. Why hasnt anyone been refunded. Take 5 minutes. Oh again all you have is excuses and time to cut and paste. Sense you post EVERYTHING. Why dont you post your address, phone number and the name and phone number of the PO Box busineess you use to rip people off. That would settle allot. But you would rather waste time arguring its not your falut and bringing up the tiny sales you made (to hook others) as a valid point as to why everyone elses coins has not arrived.
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I'm confused, how many buyers have not received their purchases from this seller? Would each of you please quote to this post and tell us dollar amount, status of your tracking number(s), when you purchased and what the seller has told you.
Lots of heresay and speculation in this thread. Let's get the facts.
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Thanks Tom, we can now add that to the extremely long list of circumstantial evidence i/we already have. He owes lots of $ still to members here from the end of last year.
Sellers response to ChrisRx - "About time you made yourself known in front the class instead of running behind a curtain." am I missing something here or should this be the other way around.
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Sorry you are involved.
When did you consummate the deal?
When was he to ship?
When date did the "pre-shipment" happen?
Curious
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Hate to say it but reading the rambling narrative offered by the seller ....you guys may be screwed.
As a long time seller of impeccable quality and reputation, I can say that my response to panicked buyers would in no way resemble to sporadic, excuse laden, 8th grade word salad employed by the scammer.
Loves me some shiny!
"bigzestee Posts: 129 ✭✭✭ March 21, 2017 8:44AM
@massscrew There wasn't any dodgy communication.I didn't get to log on for 3 days to respond to tizofthe's comment and there wasn't any deal between us.I never got a pm from that member either.No communication after I responded to the comment until I bumped the thread.Then that member seemed to act like they got shorted."
Your own words from March 21st. I see no place where I replied for Kennedys. I said you shorted me? Now you sold me some Kennedys? which is it? If all what you say is true, why would you still do business with me after I slammed you (your first response in this thread). This guy told so many lies to so many people he can’t keep them straight. Now he is backpaddling without any water in the lake. This guy will say and do anything to make himself look good. Why is it always the PO or someone’s else fault? He hasn’t produced any legit proof he did anything except take people money. So why is it he still comes on the board to clear his name and degrade good standing members. Could it be one more fraudulent sale is better than none at all. We know nothing about him (so he thinks
) except for what he tells us. NOTHING is verifiable.
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This is a classic case of a scammer stealing from veteran buyers who should know better. The signs were clearly there:
1. if a deal is too good to be true, it is..,how many time have we seen this repeated here and everywhere?
2. no paypal no deal
3. relatively new member w/zero or few CU references.
end of story.
ps - this story has happened time and time again. How many times can such low life take your $$ before you'll learn?
I word be surprised if you were wrong. That's what my gut said immediately. I'll be happy to send an apology via the post office to Bigzestee if I'm wrong. I'll provide the pre-shipment notice to all
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
The same word salad, reactive, emotionally laden response members will get from the current "under spot" seller on the BST that sporadically offers no profit deals - and people bite.
Will it ever say if the labels have been canceled and the postage refunded?
I hate these threads.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Me too...
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So does Bigzestee and PerryHall.
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I was tempted to purchase some items from him. I'm glad I didn't !!!
I got burned by: silvereagle and gregwash !!!
Good luck to all !!!
Thanks !!!
While it doesn't excude confidence I have to admit I like Bigzestee's handle
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Tracking #1 shows a pre shipment of 7/16 and Tracking #2 shows a preshipment of 7/20/17. Both are priority mail packages. I had sent payment to bigzestee in the form of postal money orders. I hope others can give updates on their tracking #s and if they indeed get their package.
@BAJJERFAN I don't think it will show if someone cancelled a shipment
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When terms of a sale include "delivered" any shipping problems belong to the seller.
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When did he receive the money order?
Good luck. I want to believe the seller in the worst way
Mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Believe in What? If he does have (or even ship) merchandise, it's surely bought with scammed $ from our members under his other alias "metalsaver1970."
Best case scenario: You receive stolen merchandise
Worst case scenario: You "contributed" to the scam to add more "bait" for the next time.
What a mess this has turned into. It always stings more getting burned on these boards. Its one thing to get screwed by some random dead beat on Ebay, but on here....even though we only know each other by the avatars next to our user names....its more personal.
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Chris, can you please further explain why you believe the seller is an alt? Purely syntax? Same method as other guy etc? Just wondering...
At this point it definitely appears that there is a scam being worked... but I would like to see a coherent layout of facts... I think, just because, I am nosey.
I don't think it's in the best interest of this forum to publicly expose everything. It's not prudent. But I believe, like Chris, that BigZestee and Metalsaver70 are the same person. And I don't expect anyone waiting for product or a refund from him will get it.
Call the law. Call the Feds. Someone rented that box.
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When you rent a PO box are you required to produce a photo identity?
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I'm glad you are 100% sure. I'm not quite there yet
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
PM sent.
Not always, but I believe you need a valid home address on file...
I'll get you to 100%. PM sent.
Thanks for getting in here, @Natchez14
I PM'd enough details to those that needed it (would give more details to the sheriffs department, and not this post.)
Noted with thanks
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
So to summate this mess, who is owed what at this point? I think it would be helpful for each member to plainly state
What is still outstanding and what has not been at least scanned in at the P.O..
Im not a "jumper on-er" im just holding on to the hope that it's not what is appears to be, and you guys willl be made whole. I'm not too optimistic. But hey, I've seen stranger things happen.
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I've never checked myself, but if a label/tracking number has not been scanned at a PO, the postage can be refunded within x number of days.
I think its 14 days , or if you cancel a label there is a 14 day period they take to make sure its not in use and then they refund you for the label
Has anyone ever talked to this guy? If so can you provide me his phone number. I need as much info as possible to guarantee this guy lives in a particular area. Once I'm 100% positive he is the seller who lives at a particular address. I will pass this information on to whomever wants it. This guy is very careful not to say anything about his location or where he lives. I would be surprised if a phone number exist.
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Well since people sent him checks and money orders his name should be enough these days. Assuming he had it sent to a PO box that would further narrow down the search. Is this guys actual name the same as metalmaster70 or was that never divulged?
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Yes, you're supposed to be able to verify your name and actual address with utility bills, driver license or something like car insurance information. They do it so there is some sort of verification of who you are. Otherwise people would get PO boxes to have drugs/guns other contriband delivered with no reprocussions.
Whether every post office does that is a different story.
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Pm sent
I have nothing to add. Am just upping my post-count.
Just pm'd bigzestee that since I'm leaving overseas on the 30th and coming back Aug 9th, I will give it a bit more time and when I come back, if no packages come, I would like my money back.
Hoping @PerryHall and @Mission16 get their stuff/payments
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I made two purchases from him. The tracking for the first package (9407803699300033548850) shows it was received by the post office on July 5 and it hasn't been scanned since. Yesterday Bigzestee he will file an insurance claim and he promised to send me a refund check so we will see. The second package has a tracking number but never made it to the post office.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I'm more worried about crooked sellers sticking it to me than paypal
2 transactions: $169.50 and $62.28. Tracking #'s I can't give because I cannot find the message he sent them to me in. And they were no good anyway.
The stories are about the same as the others.
What pi$$es me off about this is, yeah, I shoulda known better. but to me, selling at a little under spot on a forum make more sense than selling at a LOT under spot to a broker.
I'm out $500 right now, could have been more.....bigzestee where are you right now?
From now on, I'm going to only deal with established members and if I deal with a new member, no butts about it, they must ship first.
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