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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike- That's a looker!!


    Let me =know when you get the 58+ thing figured out. From what I've seen a 58+ needs to have:


      A great strike
      Great surfaces
      Minimal chatter
      Overall Eye appeal


    Is that consistant with your thoughts?

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Jeff...yes...


    ...as a matter of fact, I just started dates sets for "Ginja Max AU 58 - 58+"



    as well as a "Ginja Max Mint State Set" .... Which will be a very slow set to complete

    and as if the 58 set will be any faster ....image



    Mike Hayes
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    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Justin, If a couple more people decide to do what I did you would have a difficult time completing that awesome set you are starting!



    Glenn...you need to participate more here and thanks for the Kudos. Glad your shop is doing well...hard thing to do these days!



    Mike....don't know what you learned from me! Still trying to figure it out here. PS Good luck on the 1900 but my experience says 50/50.



    Jeff...The one thing I would add to your list is a coin that is a total PL Luster Bomb unlike the 07-O I bought from you.



    Patches...I guess if a scratch is old enough PCGS lets it pass. I think if I submitted it, it would take more than 1 try to get it in a problem free holder.
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Glenn - Good to see you back in the thread.



    LordM - Neat love token, thanks for posting.



    Patches - I share your frustrations. That 01-S is a damaged coin, and shouldn't be in a straight graded holder. These type of coins being in graded holders do depress values in the price guides, but that can be a benefit for a selective buyer.



    Mike - Congrats on the newp half.



    Jeff - I think you've got the criteria down, now if only the grading services actually applied them consistently..........



    Pics for this AM, contemplating replacing my PC55 with this PC53 from Doug's collection. Interestingly, both came from Walt K.


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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Vern-

    That '05 S 25C looks like a 55 to me. Great coin!
    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - Thanks.



    No pics, Photobucket not working at all.
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - Big congratulations on the 97-O.
    Vern
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    LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: barberkeys

    Jeff - Big congratulations on the 97-O.




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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff! I'm jealous! Where did you find that beautiful 97-O? Congratulations!
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: amwldcoin
    Jeff! I'm jealous! Where did you find that beautiful 97-O? Congratulations!

    It was a raw submission to PCGS; it only took 2 days to grade on the Express tier. The coin is in transit; I should get it back tomorrow. Now there are5 AU 58's (market diluted).


    Raw photos:


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    Darryll, I don't want to tell you what I paid; you would shoot me!


    Luck does happen- my '14 and '05 O AU 58 Halves were both raw submissions as well.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I found it! Figured it was you who nabbed it! You do have the golden touch!
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: amwldcoin
    I found it! Figured it was you who nabbed it! You do have the golden touch!

    I,m going to stop by the bank on the way home and pick up some rolls of Half Dollars to sort through. I'll let you know how many Micro O's I find.image
    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭
    I thought it looked familiar. Congrats!
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Silly me, I had no inkling of what 97-O Half everyone was alluding to... So, I checked out

    your Registry set and Lo and Behold, there was a very nice MS 64 in the 97-O slot !





    I was just about to congratulate you, Jeff, when I saw your recent post with the new 97-O

    You just submitted raw and got an AU 58. Very nice coin ( not that your 64 isn't )

    and your risk taking has paid off much more than I ever realized.





    So...how'd the roll searching go ? LOL !!


    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just replace my 06-O. Hoping it will be my next +! The surfaces are so refective it looks like it has color it doesn't. Fully Struck Luster Bomb with just a hint of Rev toning! I already upload pic's if yal wanna see it.
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great looking coin, Darryl. It's hard to understand why that coin is in an AU holder rather than a MS holder.
    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff, It does have the slightest rub on the cheek as well as a slight hairline or 2. Time will tell...probably going in at Baltimore.
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - Acquiring that 97-O as you did is like cherrying a micro O.



    Darrell - Good luck on the plus on your 06-O.



    Pics for this AM, from Jim's collection, PC45:


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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,398 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like that F-VF Dansco that LogPotato posted.




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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I picked up my '97 O 50C PCGS AU 58 at the Post Office yesterday. I didn't want to risk having the Mailman deliver it; I figured Darryll drove to Tampa Friday night and was waiting to mug my mailman.


    Here it is in it's new holder:


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    It's a great strike for a New Orleans coin, but I'm guessing this one's not worthy of a + grade. I still really like it though; I really thought I would never get one in AU let alone a 58! imageimage

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    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - Wise precautionary move, Tampa is an easy day trip from Georgia. In all seriousness though, congratulations again.



    Pics for this AM, from my raw set:


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    paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff, I think your 97-O is one of the nicest coins you've posted, plus or not. As you mentioned, the strike is excellent, but more importantly, I have to struggle to see any surface distractions. I'd say its a 20K coin.



    Paesan
    More coins, less government.
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    While waiting for your postman to arrive yesterday, I did see Darrell lurking in the bushes !!image
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lenny bids $20K; who will go $22K?
    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lenny, So what's a 96-O in 58 worth? Pop is 3 in 58 and MS Pop is 21. 97-O Pop's are 5 in 58 and 35 in MS last time I looked!



    Mike...LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!



    Jeff...not this guy!
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    LucanusLucanus Posts: 424 ✭✭✭
    Love your 14-S quarter Vern. Please sell it to me the next time we get together! LOL









    Doug
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Darrell - Are all 5 97-O's in PC58 slabs worth the same amount? For that matter, are all 3 96-O's worth the same amount? I say definitely not, unless they all have the same look, luster, issues, strike, etc. One of them is going to have the right combination and be worth more. What I like as the right combination might be different than what you like, but in all likelihood, one will be more desirable, and be worth more. Unless we don't care what the coins look like, and only care that our hosts have slabbed them as 58. I'm sure you don't look at it that way any more than I do.



    Doug - Thanks, I look forward to our next get together.




    Pics for this AM, from Jim's collection, NGC-58:
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    Photobucket is acting up again, I can't get to the reverse. Maybe tomorrow.
    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    If I were collecting a complete date and MM set of Halves in 58, I could see

    having to spend $7500 for the coin. But...I'm not and so, I won't !



    All I want is a nice AU 53....."where they at ?? "
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Verne, I don't think any 58 Barber 1/2 is worth near 20K except a micro O! And no not all 58's are the same! Anyone know how much Don's 04-S in 58 sold for or if it's still available. He paid somewhere in the 20K range for it. Time will tell!
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    paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Darrell, I put that 20K number out there for fun. You know me; I like to stir the pot. Thanks for obliging!



    Paesan
    More coins, less government.
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    paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    By the way, my opinion is that whatever any 58 will sell for today, it will sell for less down the road.



    Paesan

    More coins, less government.
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: amwldcoin
    Verne, I don't think any 58 Barber 1/2 is worth near 20K except a micro O! And no not all 58's are the same! Anyone know how much Don's 04-S in 58 sold for or if it's still available. He paid somewhere in the 20K range for it. Time will tell!


    Darrell, et al: All of the Surf City Coins that did not sell by the end of FUN, must have been

    taken back by the consignor, as none were listed after the show was over. There were a few

    that caught my eye and I was about to make an offer or two on a couple of them.



    But, Poof... they were delisted !
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lenny, Happy to oblige!



    Mike...my guess would be they are going up for auction. You could always contact Don and see if you could work a deal if not.
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Darrell, we all know you understand the Barber Half world better than any of us. Yes, a '96 O is definitely King. As I understand a roll of MS '97 O's was discovered in the 30's but there have been no hoards of '96 O uncovered. That will ultimately prove the tough one.


    Not that obtaining a PC AU 58 was easy.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike - I think a nice 53 will be as tough to find as a 58. Hope you find it.



    Darrell - I'm not a barber half specialist, but from my perspective 04-S's are overpriced relative to 96-O's and 97-O's.



    Paesan - I like when you stir the pot.



    Pic for this AM, the rev (I hope) from yesterday. My photobucket is not functioning like it used to.

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    JMWJMW Posts: 497
    I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but Vern is the Barber image master. I've seen several of the coins he has imaged in hand, and they are spot on!



    Why is the "S" mint mark on a 14-S quarter always so mushy? Maybe a 14-S quarter with razor sharp S is a 20K coin
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike, I don't think I deserve the title you bestow upon me!



    Verne I have always thought the 04-S's were overrated! Guess because they were king for so long.



    JMW I just looked at the 3 in F or better I have and they all are like Verne's. I guess the punch they were using was past it's useful life!
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    LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭
    I'd like an acceptable overrated 04-S for my set. Just missed one recently.
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    My last AU - 1897-O Half



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    .... Justin.... Here's my current 04-S { ex: D. Kahn }



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    Its a weak 40, IMHO...



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    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Joe - I can't recall seeing a crisp 'S' on a 14-S qtr, and I think Darrell must be right on why.



    Justin - When you acquire yours, I'm betting it'll have just the right look, and cost way less than $20K.



    Mike - Your 04-S has just the right look to me, which would be worth a few grading points in detail if I were buying it. I'm guessing your former 97-O half is one of the many you wish you'd never sold.



    Pics for this AM, a couple of reverses of 14-S qtrs, PC55 (mowgli's) and 63(mine):

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    Vern
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    Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭
    Vern, You 14-s is one of the stronger that I've seen. Most are like mine (attached).

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    Craig


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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    My old AU....PCGS 58
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    My newer one: PCGS 30
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    Both "S" MM's are nicely struck.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    ...double post...I just love computer glitches !! Not


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    Mike Hayes
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    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pics for this AM, from Jim's collection, PC55:


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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: JeffMTampa1893 NGC AU 58 TDR (Triple Die Reverse):


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    My 1893 TDR Half was graded yesterday at PCGS; it crossed as a 58. I really like the look of this coin and was planning on replacing the '93 Half in my Everyman Set with it. Because I had it graded with a variety attribution, however, I can't use the coin in a regular set. That doesn't make sense to me, but I guess it's the way the Registry works. Oh well.


    The coin is Pop.1 in 58! image

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭
    Jeff, I would email the PCGS set registry folks. They allow obscure VAMs into basic sets, I can't see why they wouldn't let this variety into their sets. Neat coin.
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    paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin, Jeff. Maybe you should start a variety set and be king!
    More coins, less government.
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: paesan
    Nice coin, Jeff. Maybe you should start a variety set and be king!


    Lenny-


    I already have a variety set; I'm in the #2 spot. I guess that makes me Queen!


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    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: LogPotato
    Jeff, I would email the PCGS set registry folks. They allow obscure VAMs into basic sets, I can't see why they wouldn't let this variety into their sets. Neat coin.


    Good idea- I need to find an e-mail address.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭
    This one should work. setregistry@collectors.com

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