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  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know if this is scary or exciting, but Liz at J. J. Teaparty has 3 of the 7 1897 S PC 58 Barber Halves at her table at FUN for sale. Perhaps investors are exiting?


    Weird.

    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff, Great to see you at FUN. Congrats on your 06-S and your new nickel. I saw the nicest 53 at the show but I knew you'd get the 58!



    Joe, I enjoyed seeing you and chatting. Hope you had some money to spend on coins after that dinner!



    Mike, You guys ever hear of Burger King? Sorry I couldn't join you guys. Thanks for the purchases!



    Darrell, It was nice seeing you. Good luck with your plusses.



    Liz and Gail if you're out there, thanks for everything.



    I had a wonderful time at FUN with Tom Smith (Key Date Rare Coins). Only bought a few inexpensive Barbers for my store, but got a few super bust and seated coins.







    More coins, less government.
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff,Nice nupes and congrats on the cross! Thanks for the Cudos. Wish you had seen all of my set! That was around 1/2 my set. The new program messed me up actually as my 1 55 is going in on my new submission and was told even if it would 58 the best I can receive is a +. image

    BTW...you are strolling up the ladder quite nicely! No need to belittle your set! Thinking about onna those 97-S's? (thought that was a secret...at least it was in Baltimore!)



    Dave, Nice addition!



    Lenny, Nice seeing you as well and thanks for the luck as I'm sure the roulette wheel can use all the help it can get! image
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dave - Good looking 95-O. Look forward to seeing you at Central States.



    Paesan - Good to hear that you had a good FUN. Looking forward to hearing more about it.



    Darrell - Good luck with the plusses.



    Pics for this AM, from Jim's collection, PC55:


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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    I arrived at FUN on Wednesday afternoon and met up with Dave Wollinka { Srotag

    Barber Collections }and immediately went into Lot Viewing to meet up with Valente151
    { who is our third set of eyes } and we proceded to analyze all of the Shireman Halves.

    Dave ended up picking up a fare share of them. I bid on one of them - the 1897 Phila in

    PC 66+... I was trounced in my bidding...

    It closed at almost $4,000 higher than my Max Bid.







    It was a great looking coin - and I thought it was a shot 67. It was also the most

    beautifully toned coin in the collection. I was hoping that if I did win it, it would be

    forever in my box of twenty. No such luck !! LOL




    That evening, Mike Valente and I went to Dave's home for a cook out and to view his
    Dime and Half Dollars sets.




    After a great meal - I spent the next few hours going thru his sets. We were looking

    for potential upgrades - or - for CAC submissions. I can tell you, his sets still give me

    goose bumps. Many finest known coins were in both sets. Quite a few POP TOP /

    POP ONE's too.




    Thursday morning we had a leisurely brunch before the show while Mike Valente

    headed to lot viewing to preview a group for the three of us. Dave and I arrived

    about Noon and there was a Buzz on the floor. Not so much in the Budget Section,

    however - much to the dismay of our friend, Darrell of AMERIWRLD COINS !

    He and I chatted for awhile while I previewed his top AU 58 set of Halves. All I can

    say is "OMG" - some major eye candy he's got there. We discussed the rumor

    { confirmed by Don Willis } about the AU 58+ New Tier on Reconsideration.

    A little bird must have spilled the beans before the PCGS luncheon ! image






    Thursday brought me to a few dealers that I had coins on hold with... Dave Kahn

    ... picked up my 1902-O Half in PC 53...





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    I located Steve Feltner of Americana Rare Coins { Glenn Holsonbake's business partner }

    who was holding a great 1902-S Dime in PCGS 58 for me.

    I've posted that coin when I first bought it from Glenn.




    Then I followed up with John Arge of CRO, who was holding this Half for me ....







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    Chatted with the Gals at JJ Teaparty for awhile and picked up a Barber Dime for my Everyman set - a nice 1908-D in PCGS 58 - which I suspected to be a Variety - but I didn't have a chance to confirm this with Dimeman ...sorry to say. I also contracted to buy {next month} a very special Trade Dollar - the 1878-CC in PCGS 55. Old time Waite Raymond two tone grey toning - the most original one I have seen under MS grades. I'm thrilled to grab it.





    I went to see Peter Shireman at HLRC's table - and we had a great conversation.

    He and I have known each other for well over a dozen years and I have bought two

    of his old Micro O 1892-O Halves...an ANACS AU 55 and his PCGS MS 63.





    After our chat, I went to see Jim Bush - { JEB Numismatics} and I spotted a coin

    I once tried to buy at auction a few years back at a Goldberg's sale... a 1909 Phila

    Half in PCGS 65...attached are their terrible images. I plan on having professional

    images taken of this. The rim toning is a flashy blue and the centrals are a soft

    golden white .... major look...




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    I also got to see our Paesan - and Tom Smith of NY - who I have bought a number of

    coins from. Never met him before - and what a nice guy !


    Well, Lenny brought a coin I spotted on ebay he was selling - and I fell in love with

    his 1912-D in PCGS 55 - stunning coin !!!





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    I also picked up another Half Upgrade -{ nothing wild} , just a nice solid PCGS

    AU 53 - 1908-D



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    The auction at Heritage was touch and go for me... I won a coin I needed for my

    Quarter set - the 1901-O in PCGS 58


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    Yes, I paid stupid money for it...image...If I ever find a better struck OBV -

    I'll trade it for my coin and some cash !






    In the Internet Only auction today, my bid stood for an upgrade for my 1903-S

    Quarter slot { replacing my AU 53 } with this MS 63 CAC:




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    This coin was a bargain, IMHO.




    Its late - I'm tired - after all, all the YN's call me the Old Man .... I just got another

    text for one of them.... they must live on 3 hours of sleep a night.




    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,077 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool board!
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike - Congrats on all the wonderful newps from FUN.



    Pics for this AM, newp from Doug's collection, PC55:


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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • DrPeteDrPete Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭
    Good to see so many at FUN. it was mostly a great experience watching my set sell at the auction. As others had told me some coins sell for surprising amounts at both ends of the scale with others more in line with expectations. The total was favorable with enough competition at the high end to make the overall a success. Heritage folks were very helpful throughout the process. The top graded CAC coins did the best.



    It was fun to see fellow collectors and dear friends. Giving out souvenir catalogs and signing them was great fun. I will miss my children but will embark on other collecting after catching my breath and letting the dust settle.
    Dr. Pete
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike! Looks like you went home with quite a nice haul! While this was the slowest FUN show I have ever had in almost 20 years things did finally pick up and make the show worth while although still disappointing.



    It was quite obvious to many of us in the budget section that FUN did seem to do what they could to reduce the traffic flow to the budget section. When it was in Tampa last time we were probably 2-300 feet closer to the entrance and the budget section stayed so busy many of the dealers in the regular section were complaining about it. The budget section was all but isolated from the rest of the show by the widely spaced 200+ feet of displays between the regular and budget section. I totally dread going to Ft. Lauderdale next year. The expenses are probably going to be 2 times the cost of Tampa and 2+1/2 times the cost of Orlando. This leaves me needing to decide if I want to give up my prime table location(In Orlando) so I can skip the next 2 FUN shows. I would attend but just not set up.



    My stance on this coin market is it is time to sit back and hold. I have reduced the number of regulars shows I used to attend from 40 to around 12 per year. Some may question my strategy but I am semi-retired and do not wish to bust my arse anymore to make a dime instead of a dollar! Costs to attend shows are going up, the number of table holders is going up, and the number of real buyers at shows is waning.





    Dr. Pete, It was very nice to meet and talk with you. Congradulations on the successful sale of your wonderful set of Barber Half's! It was quite interesting for me as you spotted many coins in my inventory that you had once owned!
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: JeffMTampa
    I don't know if this is scary or exciting, but Liz at J. J. Teaparty has 3 of the 7 1897 S PC 58 Barber Halves at her table at FUN for sale. Perhaps investors are exiting?



    Weird.


    No chatter.


    Apparently I'm the only one that finds this to be a bit starteling.image

    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: JeffMTampa

    Originally posted by: JeffMTampa

    I don't know if this is scary or exciting, but Liz at J. J. Teaparty has 3 of the 7 1897 S PC 58 Barber Halves at her table at FUN for sale. Perhaps investors are exiting?







    Weird.




    No chatter.







    Apparently I'm the only one that finds this to be a bit starteling.image




    Don owned 2 97-S's in 58. I didn't realize that 3 more had been made. Hmmmmm...a tag or 2 laying around? but I wouldn't expect that.



  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    JJ Teaparty has 3 PC 58 '97 S for sale; there are only 7 of them. I find that a bit concerning.
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭
    Vern, You merging Doug's (former) and your collections really is something. Your images are driving me crazy (in a good way). I can't wait to see the final product!
    Craig


  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I now own two 1906 PC 58 Halves; I'm trying to decide which to keep:


    Option #1:



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    Option #2:



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    Help me make a decision; which to keep? Opinions please?????

    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭
    I vote B because of the better strke.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: LogPotato
    I vote B because of the better strke.


    I agree

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,077 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DrPete - Congratulations on the successful sale. Quality will out, regardless of the current market feeling.



    Jeff - I find it unusual that 3, 97-S's would be in the same dealer's cases, but I don't view AU58's as investor coins, so I don't look at this as an indication that investors are exiting. I view AU58's as collector coins. If 40% of all Morgans in MS68 were showing up, I'd think investors were dumping. Not that I'd notice the Morgans.



    Craig - Thanks. I enjoy looking at the virtual album often. I'm very fortunate.



    Jeff - Hard to ignore the superior strike on option #2.



    Pics for this AM, newp into my set from Doug's, PC58:


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    Bonus pics for today, my entire Morgan dollar collection, PC58:


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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike,

    Not to single one of your coins out, but that 03-S 25C has incredible tone!
    oih82w8 = Oh I Hate To Wait _defectus patientia_aka...Dr. Defecto - Curator of RMO's

    BST transactions: dbldie55, jayPem, 78saen, UltraHighRelief, nibanny, liefgold, FallGuy, lkeigwin, mbogoman, Sandman70gt, keets, joeykoins, ianrussell (@GC), EagleEye, ThePennyLady, GRANDAM, Ilikecolor, Gluggo, okiedude, Voyageur, LJenkins11, fastfreddie, ms70, pursuitofliberty, ZoidMeister,Coin Finder, GotTheBug, edwardjulio, Coinnmore...
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for all or your input. I like the color/ toning on A but now I need to carefully consider the strike with B. It's great to have friends that offer sound advice!!
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,137 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike-- you be sure and post photos of that 78-cc trade when you get it!!
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: oih82w8
    Mike,
    Not to single one of your coins out, but that 03-S 25C has incredible tone!


    Thanks - the True View is a tad lighter than the coin - Its a nice coin, for sure.


    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - There's a lot to be said for the eye appeal of the coin in hand to your naked eye. I think you should pick which one you like best overall.



    Pics for this AM, from Jim's collection, PC45:


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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pics for this AM, one of Doug's that has returned home, PC58:


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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great looking '02 O Quarter, Vern. Do you have ugly coins as well?
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Presenting the 11th 1906 S PCGS AU 58:


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    It's the same coin I posted a few weeks back that came out of a NGC MS 61 holder. I was kind of hoping for a "plus" grade, but now that PCGS has a "Plus Only" tier selection my guess is they'll make us resubmit coins to get Plus grades. Not that they need the money, they just enjoy looking at really nice coins for a second (and maybe third) time. image

    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: JeffMTampa

    Presenting the 11th 1906 S PCGS AU 58:







    imagehttps://dl.dropboxusercontent....C58/1906 S OBV.JPG">







    imagehttps://dl.dropboxusercontent....C58/1906 S REV.JPG">







    It's the same coin I posted a few weeks back that came out of a NGC MS 61 holder. I was kind of hoping for a "plus" grade, but now that PCGS has a "Plus Only" tier selection my guess is they'll make us resubmit coins to get Plus grades. Not that they need the money, they just enjoy looking at really nice coins for a second (and maybe third) time. image





    Somebody poked that poor Eagle's eye out. image



  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is a 1892-P Dime that may have something going on with the date. I should get this one "in-hand" over the next few days for a closer examination.



    (Sellers images)



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    oih82w8 = Oh I Hate To Wait _defectus patientia_aka...Dr. Defecto - Curator of RMO's

    BST transactions: dbldie55, jayPem, 78saen, UltraHighRelief, nibanny, liefgold, FallGuy, lkeigwin, mbogoman, Sandman70gt, keets, joeykoins, ianrussell (@GC), EagleEye, ThePennyLady, GRANDAM, Ilikecolor, Gluggo, okiedude, Voyageur, LJenkins11, fastfreddie, ms70, pursuitofliberty, ZoidMeister,Coin Finder, GotTheBug, edwardjulio, Coinnmore...
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I received an eBay purchase in the mail today- a dark 1899 O Half:



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    The coin has odd scale looking things on the surface, crud in the crevices, and doubling on the reverse:



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    What is this- a real AU coin or a coin Dr. special??

    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - Thanks on the 02-O qtr. Congrats on the cross, and I like your observation that our hosts just like to see nice coins again. And neat rev doubling find. Is that previously known?



    oih8 - Looks like decent separation on your RPD. Please let us know how it looks in hand.



    Pics for this AM, from Jim's collection, PC45:

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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: barberkeys
    Jeff - neat rev doubling find. Is that previously known?


    The doublimg looks to me like it's from the die, not machine doubling. I can't find any attribution to it, however.. It doesn't show up on the BCCS Barber Half Survey. Do they name doubling finds after the person who discovered them?

    My concern is the coin looks like it has some sort of environmental damage; it probably won't grade. I'm wondering if I should keep it or return it. Without the doubling it would be in the mail.
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • daveyndaveyn Posts: 150 ✭✭
    Jeff-Always neat to find doubling, but I checked all my references also and no mention of that coin.
    Found this on Ebay, sellers pic was real bad but worth the $99 bid hoping it would be better in hand.
    Top pic Ebay bottom pic my in hand pic,
    still need a little work with the new macro lens.

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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Jeff,

    My email thoughts on the 99-O Half are still my opinion.

    After a closer look, I believe the coin has altered surfaces

    and will not grade numerically. Sorry.




    The REV is not a Repunched die - its Die Shifting { Shelf Doubling }

    Or...what ever they're calling it these days.





    Personally, I'd return it to the seller...
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - It looks like machine doubling to me also, but I'm a long way from a variety expert. Machine doubling isn't common on barber coinage is it? It's very common on Indian Cents, my other main collecting focus.



    Dave - I'd say your photographic skills are coming along very well. Congrats on a very reasonably priced newp.



    Pics for this AM, my 1906 qtr was very nice, but Doug's edged it out, PC58:


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    And here is my previous one, PC58:


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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In looking at both sets of pics, I think both look better in hand than in my pics. And I forgot to mention, my 58 is now residing in Paesan's Stash.

    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Both nice Quarters Vern!

    Mike- the '99 O Half looks to me like it has environmental damage- perhaps heat/ fire. Back it goes.
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: barberkeys
    In looking at both sets of pics, I think both look better in hand than in my pics. And I forgot to mention, my 58 is now residing in Paesan's Stash.



    Vern... Seems as if Doug had bought my 1914-S Quarter during my 08/2011 auction

    .... and it now resides in Paesan's Stash, as well....

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    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yesterday wasn't too bad. I picked up my 01-S PC 50 and it came with a bonus, in case that wasn't enough, the 14-S in 58. Maybe I'll find an 01-O in my change.



    Paesan
    More coins, less government.
  • valente151valente151 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭
    Something about the pitting around the devices doesn't seem right to me on the 99-O 50c... I'm thinking possible counterfeit, but would want to see in hand before making that call.
  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭
    When you realize that one of Lenny's newps is worth more than double your Barber half collection...







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  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭
    Just kidding, Lenny. Congrats on 2 amazing additions to your set!
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - Thanks. Probably a good call on the 99-O



    Mike - Yes. Actually 3 of Doug's qtrs came from your Aug 2011 sale: 92-O, 94-O and the 14-S.



    Paesan - Congratulations on your spectacular day. Two true rarities in those conditions. And good luck with the pocket change.



    Justin - Your halves have nothing to be ashamed about.



    Pics for this AM, Paesan's 14-S, PC58:


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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Justin, Thanks for the congrats, and for what it's worth, yours is one of my favorite collections.



    Mike, It's been an honor and privilege to own a few "ex Hayes" quarters. Of course, after Vern, you'd get next option on the 14-S.



    Paesan
    More coins, less government.
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats Lenny- King of the Quarters!!


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    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    All I can say is "SIGH".....





    I had to conssole myself this morning...after being up since 3:15 AM


    because of the heavy wind and rain... I thought I was going to loose


    part of the roof ... 80 mph winds .... at least 6" of rain ....





    I went back to sleep with the rain stopped at 6:15 but not before spotting


    a couple of V Nickels for my MS set....




    1904 - PCGS 64






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    1907 - PCGS 63



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    Spotted this nice looking 1897 Half... it had my name on it ...LOL





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    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff, I'll never be the king.
    More coins, less government.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: barberkeys
    Jeff - Thanks. Probably a good call on the 99-O



    Mike - Yes. Actually 3 of Doug's qtrs came from your Aug 2011 sale: 92-O, 94-O and the 14-S.



    Paesan - Congratulations on your spectacular day. Two true rarities in those conditions. And good luck with the pocket change.



    Justin - Your halves have nothing to be ashamed about.



    Pics for this AM, Paesan's 14-S, PC58:


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    My old images before it was CAC'd:




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    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike - That's some storm, but at least it had a good side, your newps. Congrats.



    Pics for this AM, this coin has just the right look, at least in 2 peoples opinion. Even tho our hosts only graded it a 55, it replaced a 58 in Doug's collection, and recently a 63 in mine:



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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • USAFRETWIUSAFRETWI Posts: 464 ✭✭✭
    Been years since Ive been on, glad to see the Barbers again.....

    Ken
  • Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭
    WOW,

    Among Lenny, Vern & MFH now I know where all the Barber Quarters are. Congrats & imageimage
    Craig


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