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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike! Looks like you went home with quite a nice haul! While this was the slowest FUN show I have ever had in almost 20 years things did finally pick up and make the show worth while although still disappointing.



    It was quite obvious to many of us in the budget section that FUN did seem to do what they could to reduce the traffic flow to the budget section. When it was in Tampa last time we were probably 2-300 feet closer to the entrance and the budget section stayed so busy many of the dealers in the regular section were complaining about it. The budget section was all but isolated from the rest of the show by the widely spaced 200+ feet of displays between the regular and budget section. I totally dread going to Ft. Lauderdale next year. The expenses are probably going to be 2 times the cost of Tampa and 2+1/2 times the cost of Orlando. This leaves me needing to decide if I want to give up my prime table location(In Orlando) so I can skip the next 2 FUN shows. I would attend but just not set up.



    My stance on this coin market is it is time to sit back and hold. I have reduced the number of regulars shows I used to attend from 40 to around 12 per year. Some may question my strategy but I am semi-retired and do not wish to bust my arse anymore to make a dime instead of a dollar! Costs to attend shows are going up, the number of table holders is going up, and the number of real buyers at shows is waning.





    Dr. Pete, It was very nice to meet and talk with you. Congradulations on the successful sale of your wonderful set of Barber Half's! It was quite interesting for me as you spotted many coins in my inventory that you had once owned!
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: JeffMTampa
    I don't know if this is scary or exciting, but Liz at J. J. Teaparty has 3 of the 7 1897 S PC 58 Barber Halves at her table at FUN for sale. Perhaps investors are exiting?



    Weird.


    No chatter.


    Apparently I'm the only one that finds this to be a bit starteling.image

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: JeffMTampa

    Originally posted by: JeffMTampa

    I don't know if this is scary or exciting, but Liz at J. J. Teaparty has 3 of the 7 1897 S PC 58 Barber Halves at her table at FUN for sale. Perhaps investors are exiting?







    Weird.




    No chatter.







    Apparently I'm the only one that finds this to be a bit starteling.image




    Don owned 2 97-S's in 58. I didn't realize that 3 more had been made. Hmmmmm...a tag or 2 laying around? but I wouldn't expect that.



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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    JJ Teaparty has 3 PC 58 '97 S for sale; there are only 7 of them. I find that a bit concerning.
    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭
    Vern, You merging Doug's (former) and your collections really is something. Your images are driving me crazy (in a good way). I can't wait to see the final product!
    Craig


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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I now own two 1906 PC 58 Halves; I'm trying to decide which to keep:


    Option #1:



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    Option #2:



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    Help me make a decision; which to keep? Opinions please?????

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭
    I vote B because of the better strke.
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: LogPotato
    I vote B because of the better strke.


    I agree

    Mike Hayes
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    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,976 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DrPete - Congratulations on the successful sale. Quality will out, regardless of the current market feeling.



    Jeff - I find it unusual that 3, 97-S's would be in the same dealer's cases, but I don't view AU58's as investor coins, so I don't look at this as an indication that investors are exiting. I view AU58's as collector coins. If 40% of all Morgans in MS68 were showing up, I'd think investors were dumping. Not that I'd notice the Morgans.



    Craig - Thanks. I enjoy looking at the virtual album often. I'm very fortunate.



    Jeff - Hard to ignore the superior strike on option #2.



    Pics for this AM, newp into my set from Doug's, PC58:


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    Bonus pics for today, my entire Morgan dollar collection, PC58:


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    Vern
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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,042 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike,

    Not to single one of your coins out, but that 03-S 25C has incredible tone!
    oih82w8 = Oh I Hate To Wait _defectus patientia_aka...Dr. Defecto - Curator of RMO's

    BST transactions: dbldie55, jayPem, 78saen, UltraHighRelief, nibanny, liefgold, FallGuy, lkeigwin, mbogoman, Sandman70gt, keets, joeykoins, ianrussell (@GC), EagleEye, ThePennyLady, GRANDAM, Ilikecolor, Gluggo, okiedude, Voyageur, LJenkins11, fastfreddie, ms70, pursuitofliberty, ZoidMeister,Coin Finder, GotTheBug, edwardjulio, Coinnmore...
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for all or your input. I like the color/ toning on A but now I need to carefully consider the strike with B. It's great to have friends that offer sound advice!!
    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    kazkaz Posts: 9,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike-- you be sure and post photos of that 78-cc trade when you get it!!
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: oih82w8
    Mike,
    Not to single one of your coins out, but that 03-S 25C has incredible tone!


    Thanks - the True View is a tad lighter than the coin - Its a nice coin, for sure.


    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - There's a lot to be said for the eye appeal of the coin in hand to your naked eye. I think you should pick which one you like best overall.



    Pics for this AM, from Jim's collection, PC45:


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    Vern
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pics for this AM, one of Doug's that has returned home, PC58:


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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great looking '02 O Quarter, Vern. Do you have ugly coins as well?
    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Presenting the 11th 1906 S PCGS AU 58:


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    It's the same coin I posted a few weeks back that came out of a NGC MS 61 holder. I was kind of hoping for a "plus" grade, but now that PCGS has a "Plus Only" tier selection my guess is they'll make us resubmit coins to get Plus grades. Not that they need the money, they just enjoy looking at really nice coins for a second (and maybe third) time. image

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: JeffMTampa

    Presenting the 11th 1906 S PCGS AU 58:







    imagehttps://dl.dropboxusercontent....C58/1906 S OBV.JPG">







    imagehttps://dl.dropboxusercontent....C58/1906 S REV.JPG">







    It's the same coin I posted a few weeks back that came out of a NGC MS 61 holder. I was kind of hoping for a "plus" grade, but now that PCGS has a "Plus Only" tier selection my guess is they'll make us resubmit coins to get Plus grades. Not that they need the money, they just enjoy looking at really nice coins for a second (and maybe third) time. image





    Somebody poked that poor Eagle's eye out. image



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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,042 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is a 1892-P Dime that may have something going on with the date. I should get this one "in-hand" over the next few days for a closer examination.



    (Sellers images)



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    oih82w8 = Oh I Hate To Wait _defectus patientia_aka...Dr. Defecto - Curator of RMO's

    BST transactions: dbldie55, jayPem, 78saen, UltraHighRelief, nibanny, liefgold, FallGuy, lkeigwin, mbogoman, Sandman70gt, keets, joeykoins, ianrussell (@GC), EagleEye, ThePennyLady, GRANDAM, Ilikecolor, Gluggo, okiedude, Voyageur, LJenkins11, fastfreddie, ms70, pursuitofliberty, ZoidMeister,Coin Finder, GotTheBug, edwardjulio, Coinnmore...
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I received an eBay purchase in the mail today- a dark 1899 O Half:



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    The coin has odd scale looking things on the surface, crud in the crevices, and doubling on the reverse:



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    What is this- a real AU coin or a coin Dr. special??

    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - Thanks on the 02-O qtr. Congrats on the cross, and I like your observation that our hosts just like to see nice coins again. And neat rev doubling find. Is that previously known?



    oih8 - Looks like decent separation on your RPD. Please let us know how it looks in hand.



    Pics for this AM, from Jim's collection, PC45:

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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: barberkeys
    Jeff - neat rev doubling find. Is that previously known?


    The doublimg looks to me like it's from the die, not machine doubling. I can't find any attribution to it, however.. It doesn't show up on the BCCS Barber Half Survey. Do they name doubling finds after the person who discovered them?

    My concern is the coin looks like it has some sort of environmental damage; it probably won't grade. I'm wondering if I should keep it or return it. Without the doubling it would be in the mail.
    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    daveyndaveyn Posts: 150 ✭✭
    Jeff-Always neat to find doubling, but I checked all my references also and no mention of that coin.
    Found this on Ebay, sellers pic was real bad but worth the $99 bid hoping it would be better in hand.
    Top pic Ebay bottom pic my in hand pic,
    still need a little work with the new macro lens.

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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Jeff,

    My email thoughts on the 99-O Half are still my opinion.

    After a closer look, I believe the coin has altered surfaces

    and will not grade numerically. Sorry.




    The REV is not a Repunched die - its Die Shifting { Shelf Doubling }

    Or...what ever they're calling it these days.





    Personally, I'd return it to the seller...
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - It looks like machine doubling to me also, but I'm a long way from a variety expert. Machine doubling isn't common on barber coinage is it? It's very common on Indian Cents, my other main collecting focus.



    Dave - I'd say your photographic skills are coming along very well. Congrats on a very reasonably priced newp.



    Pics for this AM, my 1906 qtr was very nice, but Doug's edged it out, PC58:


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    And here is my previous one, PC58:


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    Vern
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In looking at both sets of pics, I think both look better in hand than in my pics. And I forgot to mention, my 58 is now residing in Paesan's Stash.

    Vern
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Both nice Quarters Vern!

    Mike- the '99 O Half looks to me like it has environmental damage- perhaps heat/ fire. Back it goes.
    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: barberkeys
    In looking at both sets of pics, I think both look better in hand than in my pics. And I forgot to mention, my 58 is now residing in Paesan's Stash.



    Vern... Seems as if Doug had bought my 1914-S Quarter during my 08/2011 auction

    .... and it now resides in Paesan's Stash, as well....

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    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yesterday wasn't too bad. I picked up my 01-S PC 50 and it came with a bonus, in case that wasn't enough, the 14-S in 58. Maybe I'll find an 01-O in my change.



    Paesan
    More coins, less government.
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    valente151valente151 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭
    Something about the pitting around the devices doesn't seem right to me on the 99-O 50c... I'm thinking possible counterfeit, but would want to see in hand before making that call.
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    LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭
    When you realize that one of Lenny's newps is worth more than double your Barber half collection...







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    LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭
    Just kidding, Lenny. Congrats on 2 amazing additions to your set!
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff - Thanks. Probably a good call on the 99-O



    Mike - Yes. Actually 3 of Doug's qtrs came from your Aug 2011 sale: 92-O, 94-O and the 14-S.



    Paesan - Congratulations on your spectacular day. Two true rarities in those conditions. And good luck with the pocket change.



    Justin - Your halves have nothing to be ashamed about.



    Pics for this AM, Paesan's 14-S, PC58:


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    Vern
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    paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Justin, Thanks for the congrats, and for what it's worth, yours is one of my favorite collections.



    Mike, It's been an honor and privilege to own a few "ex Hayes" quarters. Of course, after Vern, you'd get next option on the 14-S.



    Paesan
    More coins, less government.
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats Lenny- King of the Quarters!!


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    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    All I can say is "SIGH".....





    I had to conssole myself this morning...after being up since 3:15 AM


    because of the heavy wind and rain... I thought I was going to loose


    part of the roof ... 80 mph winds .... at least 6" of rain ....





    I went back to sleep with the rain stopped at 6:15 but not before spotting


    a couple of V Nickels for my MS set....




    1904 - PCGS 64






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    1907 - PCGS 63



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    Spotted this nice looking 1897 Half... it had my name on it ...LOL





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    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff, I'll never be the king.
    More coins, less government.
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: barberkeys
    Jeff - Thanks. Probably a good call on the 99-O



    Mike - Yes. Actually 3 of Doug's qtrs came from your Aug 2011 sale: 92-O, 94-O and the 14-S.



    Paesan - Congratulations on your spectacular day. Two true rarities in those conditions. And good luck with the pocket change.



    Justin - Your halves have nothing to be ashamed about.



    Pics for this AM, Paesan's 14-S, PC58:


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    My old images before it was CAC'd:




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    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike - That's some storm, but at least it had a good side, your newps. Congrats.



    Pics for this AM, this coin has just the right look, at least in 2 peoples opinion. Even tho our hosts only graded it a 55, it replaced a 58 in Doug's collection, and recently a 63 in mine:



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    Vern
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    USAFRETWIUSAFRETWI Posts: 464 ✭✭✭
    Been years since Ive been on, glad to see the Barbers again.....

    Ken
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    Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭
    WOW,

    Among Lenny, Vern & MFH now I know where all the Barber Quarters are. Congrats & imageimage
    Craig


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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ken - Welcome back. Still have all those 93-S's?



    Craig - Thanks, we have our hare.



    Pics for this later AM, from Jim's collection, PC58:


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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pics for this AM, another of Doug's beauties that is now in my collection, PC55:


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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    I have this date in the same grade - but, this one caught my eye & I knew

    I had to have it. Seems that I have another MS of this date as well, a MS 63



    Guess I now have an Heir and a Spare !!




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    My other MS 64:



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    As well as the MS 63




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    Plus a bunch of AU 55's and 58's....
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike - Tom Reynolds is the king of 1798 Large Cents, you are becoming the king of 1898 Barber Dimes. Congrats on the newp.



    Pics for this AM, from Jim's collection, PC50:


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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's see if the rev shows up here, my photobucket is acting quirky.


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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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    paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neat double obverse! Is that a 3-sided coin? :-)
    More coins, less government.
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oops!
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: amwldcoin
    This coin has been around the block so many times someone should shoot it as no one seems to want it!

    Now on ebay

    Heritage Fun

    Was in JJTeaparty's inventory

    Heritage last April

    Not a bad buy if you want a plastic purchase!


    Well of course it's going down in value- 2/3 of the PCGS Security sticker is now missing.


    I don't think it's one of the best examples I've seen, but I wouldn't be ashamed to own it. I guess I like diversity.

    I love them Barber Halves.....

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