Re: Dave Nobel's question: I wish I could say with all certainty that it was one or the other. If it's toning than I have never seen that exact type before, same goes with PVC, my only experience was with a O/C Buffalo nickel that my second set of eyes ( YN Valente) noticed when he was imaging my collection.
YN Valente suggested I send it in for PCGS restoration ... When the coin was returned in its new holder, the PVC was still in the recesses of the reverse. The coin was originally graded MS 62. It was returned in a ms 62 holder.
I sent the coin to my friend, who gave it an very judicious acetone bath, nothing more, except for a rose thorn to detail the area around E Pluribus Unum where the PVC was pretty thick. He sent it back into PCGS (raw, obviously & without the old insert ). The coin was eventually returned to me as a MS 64 !!!
For what it's worth, the green "toning" on Dave's coin is not of the same hue as my PVC infected Buffalo. The primary reason I thought it was toning.
I await my second set of eyes' opinion !!
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Dave - If the areas in your close up pic are the only green areas on the coin, and as it's already in a PC58 holder, I'd leave it as is. I wouldn't take any chances on messing with what looks like an originally toned piece. Personally, I've never sent a coin in for restoration.
Pics for this AM, another toughie to contemplate, PC58:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Mike - I was hoping to post your previous 96-O in 58, that I bought in your 2011 HA sale, but can't seem to find it in photobucket. I sold it when I acquired this one, one of my only two quarters in MS65:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
The Dallas ANA Show auction was filled with nice coins but you can't buy everything you see...
I did pick up three Dimes - { One addition - a proof } and two upgrades...
I also was eyeing a nice 1904-O Quarter and I was High Bidder for the entire auction - when someone at the last second bumped my max bid { also at the exact second the dogs were barking their heads off at some golfers } and before I could get back to the auction, my lot was done and the new bidder beat my split bid by $20. Twenty Dollars !!
EDIT: I just left eBay's listings and I thought I had seen a 1904-O Quarter the other day... seems as if I didn't pay much attention to it as I was high bidder on the white one at Heritage.... but after I finished recanting my tale {above} ... I remembered the eBay coin. Seems it was still there - warmly toned and $200+ less than the Heritage one.
I took the loud mouthed dog to the dog park and let him burn off some energy. { The female is still quarantined to bed rest for another week.}
While at the dog park, my iPhone buzzed me - a text saying my Sunday Night Auction bid was out bid - and as I really wanted this { 1917-S SLQ - PCGS 58 FH } for my Dad's Birthyear Set... so, as I lost out on the 1904-O, I went a little heavy on the SLQ. Yes, I won that SLQ. Now, all type One SLQ's are complete - all in PC 58.
It turned out to be a great day afterall... finally got a nice 04-O Quarter in 58 .... plus, the 04-O in 55 that I have has a great look as well... and worth salting away for a few years.....
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WOW! some really beautiful coins, love the toned coins. Just got back from a fishing trip, thanks for the replies on my pvc question. I think I will leave it as is, I like the dark toning and I do think it is just toned gunk pushed up to the lettering, thanks to the auction pictures posted by PCGS I can see it's hasn't worsened in the last 5 year.
Vern ... Thanks for showing Jim's collection...that's a nice "earthy" 1892 Half.
I neglected to add a last minute purchase - the seller agreed to my last "final offer" after a half dozen back and forth "counter offers"...
Horrible images - but I'll take care of that during my next photo session with Valente151....
Really looking forward to getting this coin...lots of underlying color tones embedded in the surfaces. I bet this little gem will just sparkle in sunlight.
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Originally posted by: LogPotato Kind of a slow day today. Picking this one up from Darrell at Baltimore at the end of the month. It looks like a really nice coin from the pictures.
Justin- Real nice 93-O, was looking at your set, all seem to fit together nicely. The 93-O looks like a perfect fit. My set seems all over the place as far as matching, but I sure like the ones I have.
Jeff-Will PCGS label it a TDR or do you have to request that?
Justin- Real nice 93-O, was looking at your set, all seem to fit together nicely. The 93-O looks like a perfect fit. My set seems all over the place as far as matching, but I sure like the ones I have. .....Dave
Thanks for the compliment on my set. And I don't think having a matched set is everything, it's about being happy with the coins you have.
Vern- nice 99 O I guess your imaging all of Keith's coins, I do need to get back to work on my raw set. I just learned to use my Canon camera setup and bought Adobe Lightroom 6, so I plan to begin reimaging all of my coins, an ominous task to say the least.
What's the advantage of Adobe Lightroom 6; I just use the Canon software that came with the camers- it seems to work fine for me (but I don't do much advanced editing). For me the Canon software (especially tethering) is the best reason to use Canon equipment.
Jeff, I always used Photoshop6 to crop out the obvers and revers to make one pic, but the Lightroom6 program gives you complete control over texture, color, lighting, white balance adjustments and a host of other settings like no other program I've seen. I have a Canon XSI with a 100mm macro lens, so the pics straight from the camera are very good, but I always had trouble working with raw pics, Lightroom solved that problem for me and it files and categorizes your pics as you go along.
This is the setup I now have, the new software allows you to make the coin look exactly like it does in hand, although what I perceive it to look like may still differ from someone else.
I did something I didn't think I would do. At least not so soon. I purchased a 1892 S PCGS AU 58 Half.
The coin that started my Barber Half set was a raw 1892 S raw AU Half back in 1981. This was before the advent of Third Party Grading, and as I recall there was no numerical grading system in use at the time.
I was vey proud of that coin; for years it was the showpiece of my VG to AU set resting in a coin album. In 2012 I started submitting my set for grading to NGC; the 1892 S came back as a AU 55. It subsequently crossed at PCGS the same grade:
As I recall the coin was very white when I purchased it 35 years ago, but now it has nice colorful toning. The coin has just enough wear to keep it from being a 58.
I've always loved this coin, and vowed it would be the the last coin in my Everyman's set to upgrade to a 58. That is until last week when I purchased a AU 58 in an eBay Auction at a reasonable price:
Although a bit scruffy, it's a nice coin with PL surfaces. As an added bonus I believe this coin has a DDR (Double Die Reverse), but I can't find any records of such:
Now the tough question; do I sell the AU 55 that I was attached to for all these years? It kind of seems like asking a wife of 35 years for a divorce to find a younger woman. The angst! I really hate keeping both coins, but I may need to.
Thanks, Steve. I enjoyed writing it. I tried to keep it short, but I could have easily rambled on and on.
I'll try and send in another short story as John Frost never wants to use another reprint again.
Vern, your friend's 1895-O Dime graces the cover of this year's Journal. Can't say I mind one iota !! What a great Dime !!
I have not had a chance to study this Quarterly issue, as 5 lbs of Stack's Bowers catalogs arrived.... If anyone is looking for a nice 1900-S Quarter in a PCGS 58 holder, S/B lot # 32306. I'll hold my tongue on some of the other Barbers I saw. Not saying that all the lots were lacking, just most of the "58" material. I saw a very special Quarter - lot # 16259 - an 1895 Philadelphia in PCGS 66 / CAC . Love it, but too nice for my collection. ( then again....hmmmm !! )
Ok, happy hunting.
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
Vern.... Love, love, love that 1913 you got from our old friend Scott. Have you come up with a list yet .... sitting here in Florida with baited breath.
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
Still haven't landed completely upon a series or set to work on next. Was able to go to a small coin show in West Michigan with about 25 dealers. I hadn't been to one of these in about 2 years. Became reacquainted with some folks there and met some new dealers. Came across one dealer who had a handful of nicer circulated barber halves in VG to F+/VF and I bought some. Also found a 92-S half in G4 with some wearing into the letters on the reverse, but overall nice, original, and the price was fair. I think it would grade G4. Saw a 96-S in VG except for some 6 o'clock rim filing that ruined the coin for me. Then bought four cheap ($25 each) common uncirculated peace dollars not certified. All in all, I spent more time and had more fun than I have in a while at a small show. Once a collector, always a collector.
MFH, read your story in the BCS journal and enjoyed it. Us Barber folk can really tell stories.
Great to hear you're still having fun with some lower end coins. Kind of makes you feel like a kid again?
A Barber Quarter came back from the grading room recently. I bought a 1914 D Quarter in an ANACS AU 58 holder and cracked it out for a raw submission. It came back as a PCGS AU 58:
The coin has a nice original look to me. My quarter set slowly grows..... Don't worry Lenny.
FINALLY, my internet service seems to be back to normal. Strange thing was, only some sites wouldn't load. HA would but PCGS wouldn't. Go figure.
Mike - Liked your article in the BCCS journal. Getting closer to a list of what is available. Have been following up with collector/friends who expressed interest earlier.
DrPete - You'll find something you like that is challenging, I'm confident.
Jeff - Congrats on the 14-D qtr cross.
Pics for this AM, a truly rare newp into Paesan's Stash, PC55:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Thats a great looking 07-s! Certainly has been discussed here before, but this is IMHO the 3rd toughest coin in the series in nice AU after 01-S and 09-0. Love the look on that one!
Always looking for tougher PSA 10's of Nolan Arenado, Alex Bregman, Mookie Betts, Francisco Lindor, and Mike Trout.
Recently, I posted a really nice ( medium toned ) 1907-S Quarter that I picked up in PCGS 45 - from our Paesan. It was the closest I could locate after 5 years of looking for an AU example. I had an AU 58 in the set I sold in 2011.... So, I can't blame JMW for buying the AU 50ish with a slight facial abrasion.
No sooner than the 45 arrived - I picked up a nice 65. Once again, the Heir and the Spare !
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
Comments
I wish I could say with all certainty that it was one or the other. If it's toning
than I have never seen that exact type before, same goes with PVC, my only
experience was with a O/C Buffalo nickel that my second set of eyes ( YN Valente)
noticed when he was imaging my collection.
YN Valente suggested I send it in for PCGS restoration ... When the coin was returned
in its new holder, the PVC was still in the recesses of the reverse. The coin was originally
graded MS 62. It was returned in a ms 62 holder.
I sent the coin to my friend, who gave it an very judicious acetone bath, nothing more,
except for a rose thorn to detail the area around E Pluribus Unum where the PVC was
pretty thick. He sent it back into PCGS (raw, obviously & without the old insert ). The coin
was eventually returned to me as a MS 64 !!!
For what it's worth, the green "toning" on Dave's coin is not of the same hue as my
PVC infected Buffalo. The primary reason I thought it was toning.
I await my second set of eyes' opinion !!
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Pics for this AM, another toughie to contemplate, PC58:
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That's a lovely 96-O in 58.... compare with mine:
EX: NGC 58 - Crossed as a 58. Not CAC'd.
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
I sent you the HA images of my old 96-O in 58,
I can't blame you for selling it when you got the
upgrade.
Here's the one I just sold when I upgraded to a 58
a couple of months back....
Here's the 58 you bought at the August, 2011 auction:
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you can't buy everything you see...
I did pick up three Dimes - { One addition - a proof }
and two upgrades...
I also was eyeing a nice 1904-O Quarter and I was High Bidder for the entire auction - when
someone at the last second bumped my max bid { also at the exact second the dogs were barking their heads off at some golfers }
and before I could get back to the auction, my lot was done and the new bidder beat my split bid by $20. Twenty Dollars !!
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EDIT:
I just left eBay's listings and I thought I had seen a 1904-O Quarter the other day...
seems as if I didn't pay much attention to it as I was high bidder on the white one
at Heritage.... but after I finished recanting my tale {above} ... I remembered the
eBay coin. Seems it was still there - warmly toned and $200+ less than the Heritage one.
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I took the loud mouthed dog to the dog park and let him burn off some energy.
{ The female is still quarantined to bed rest for another week.}
While at the dog park, my iPhone buzzed me - a text saying my Sunday Night Auction
bid was out bid - and as I really wanted this { 1917-S SLQ - PCGS 58 FH } for my Dad's
Birthyear Set... so, as I lost out on the 1904-O, I went a little heavy on the SLQ. Yes, I won
that SLQ. Now, all type One SLQ's are complete - all in PC 58.
It turned out to be a great day afterall... finally got a nice 04-O Quarter in 58 .... plus,
the 04-O in 55 that I have has a great look as well... and worth salting away for a few
years.....
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Time for a Barber Half Dollar POP Quiz.....
There are 2 Barber Half dates where PCGS has certified more than 100 AU 58's- name them!
Thought I post the whole coin.
1892O PC58
NOBLE REGISTRY
"Half" correct.
Congrats Mike, you had a GREAT sunday.
Time for a Barber Half Dollar POP Quiz.....
There are 2 Barber Half dates where PCGS has certified more than 100 AU 58's- name them!
Thanks, Jeff... It was an interesting day, for sure.
Re: The two dates over 100 certified in AU 58....
Justin hit it on the head with 1892- Philadelphia ....
although he was off on the 1912-D, he was right on
with his alternate guess, the 1915-D.
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Jeff - Good pop quiz, I'd have flunked (only 50%).
Dave - Hope you had a good catch.
Returned to Illinois last night, good to be back in the vicinity of my collection. I'm sure I'll be at the bank, refreshing my memory later today.
Pics for this AM, from Jim's collection, PC55:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Vern ... Thanks for showing Jim's collection...that's a nice "earthy" 1892 Half.
I neglected to add a last minute purchase - the seller agreed to my last "final offer"
after a half dozen back and forth "counter offers"...
Horrible images - but I'll take care of that during my next photo session with
Valente151....
Really looking forward to getting this coin...lots of underlying color tones embedded
in the surfaces. I bet this little gem will just sparkle in sunlight.
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Spotted this Proof Dime.... Don't ask why the seller put the mintage
on the OBV images...
I like it a lot for a 64 - hope I 'll like it just as much in hand !!
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Justin - Looks like a Justin type of half. Will be interested to see your pics.
Pics for this AM, from Paesan's Stash, PC58:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Don't think I did all that badly on my last submission to CAC.
I sent in 83 coins and received 33 coins with Green Beans.
90% of these coins are Barbers - I received a few good and
not so good surprises.
One coin was beaned [ previously rejected from what the seller
mentioned to me ] - a nice 1908-S Quarter - PCGS 58. No images
yet... but soon !!
Disappointed that the 1909-O Quarter in 58 did not sticker !!
Liking that 1916 Dime in 58... I have been looking for a nice one in 58 myself.
{ For the Every Man Set !! }
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Pics for this AM, newp I got fom Darrell while in SC, PC45:
Thanks again, Darrell.
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Kind of a slow day today. Picking this one up from Darrell at Baltimore at the end of the month. It looks like a really nice coin from the pictures.
I'll guess VF 25 on the half.
I picked up another nice raw coin this week, an 1892 Half:
Although I'm hoping this will come back as a 58 I think it as good or better chance as a 55.
I'm fairly confident this is the TDR (Triple Die Reverse) variety. Since I don't have one this is a cool find for me!
My '92 Half was graded at PCGS yesterday; it's coming back in an AU 55 TDR holder. I'm happy with that.
Jeff-Will PCGS label it a TDR or do you have to request that?
Dave
NOBLE REGISTRY
...and if it doesn't cross, I can use it in my type set Dansco album...
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Mike - Congrats on the newp dime.
Pics for this AM, newp into Paesan's Stash, PC58:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Justin- Real nice 93-O, was looking at your set, all seem to fit together nicely. The 93-O looks like a perfect fit. My set seems all over the place as far as matching, but I sure like the ones I have. .....Dave
Thanks for the compliment on my set. And I don't think having a matched set is everything, it's about being happy with the coins you have.
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Has anyone told you lately that you are really appreciated for keeping this thread going for...a while?
I go through all sorts of emotions, mostly envy, while frequently visiting this thread.
You guys are great!
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I just learned to use my Canon camera setup and bought Adobe Lightroom 6, so I plan to begin reimaging all of my coins, an ominous task to say the least.
Dave
NOBLE REGISTRY
What's the advantage of Adobe Lightroom 6; I just use the Canon software that came with the camers- it seems to work fine for me (but I don't do much advanced editing). For me the Canon software (especially tethering) is the best reason to use Canon equipment.
I have a Canon XSI with a 100mm macro lens, so the pics straight from the camera are very good, but I always had trouble working with raw pics, Lightroom solved that problem for me and it files and categorizes your pics as you go along.
setup
This is the setup I now have, the new software allows you to make the coin look exactly like it does in hand, although what I perceive it to look like may still differ from someone else.
Dave
NOBLE REGISTRY
The coin that started my Barber Half set was a raw 1892 S raw AU Half back in 1981. This was before the advent of Third Party Grading, and as I recall there was no numerical grading system in use at the time.
I was vey proud of that coin; for years it was the showpiece of my VG to AU set resting in a coin album. In 2012 I started submitting my set for grading to NGC; the 1892 S came back as a AU 55. It subsequently crossed at PCGS the same grade:
As I recall the coin was very white when I purchased it 35 years ago, but now it has nice colorful toning. The coin has just enough wear to keep it from being a 58.
I've always loved this coin, and vowed it would be the the last coin in my Everyman's set to upgrade to a 58. That is until last week when I purchased a AU 58 in an eBay Auction at a reasonable price:
Although a bit scruffy, it's a nice coin with PL surfaces. As an added bonus I believe this coin has a DDR (Double Die Reverse), but I can't find any records of such:
Now the tough question; do I sell the AU 55 that I was attached to for all these years? It kind of seems like asking a wife of 35 years for a divorce to find a younger woman. The angst! I really hate keeping both coins, but I may need to.
Jeff...FWIW... I prefer your older coin in 55 to the new 58.
If you ever decide to sell the 55 ...an unsolicited offer awaits....
Here's my old 92-S - sold in 2011 - sorry to say:
.... I ended up completing another Half set since then and replaced my 58 with this:
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Jeff...FWIW... I prefer your older coin in 55 to the new 58.
Labelman... That's a AU 64 if ever I saw one...
Here is my better 1897 - { Its CAC now }
MS 64 { The " Heir " }
AU 58 { The "Spare }
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Craig - Would be happy to take pics for you.
Dave - That's quite the fancy setup.
Jeff - I'd definitely keep the 55. Don't know if that's a DDR on your 58.
Mike - It's good to have a deep bench. "Heir and Spare".
Pics for this AM, now a spare. I acquired it from our old friend Scott in 2014, PC58:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
-Steve
Thanks, Steve. I enjoyed writing it. I tried to keep it short,
but I could have easily rambled on and on.
I'll try and send in another short story as John Frost never wants
to use another reprint again.
Vern, your friend's 1895-O Dime graces the cover of this year's Journal.
Can't say I mind one iota !! What a great Dime !!
I have not had a chance to study this Quarterly issue, as 5 lbs of
Stack's Bowers catalogs arrived.... If anyone is looking for a nice
1900-S Quarter in a PCGS 58 holder, S/B lot # 32306. I'll hold my
tongue on some of the other Barbers I saw. Not saying that all the
lots were lacking, just most of the "58" material. I saw a very special
Quarter - lot # 16259 - an 1895 Philadelphia in PCGS 66 / CAC . Love
it, but too nice for my collection. ( then again....hmmmm !! )
Ok, happy hunting.
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Vern.... Love, love, love that 1913 you got from our old friend Scott.
Have you come up with a list yet .... sitting here in Florida with baited breath.
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
MFH, read your story in the BCS journal and enjoyed it. Us Barber folk can really tell stories.
Great to hear you're still having fun with some lower end coins. Kind of makes you feel like a kid again?
A Barber Quarter came back from the grading room recently. I bought a 1914 D Quarter in an ANACS AU 58 holder and cracked it out for a raw submission. It came back as a PCGS AU 58:
The coin has a nice original look to me. My quarter set slowly grows..... Don't worry Lenny.
Mike - Liked your article in the BCCS journal. Getting closer to a list of what is available. Have been following up with collector/friends who expressed interest earlier.
DrPete - You'll find something you like that is challenging, I'm confident.
Jeff - Congrats on the 14-D qtr cross.
Pics for this AM, a truly rare newp into Paesan's Stash, PC55:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Always looking for tougher PSA 10's of Nolan Arenado, Alex Bregman, Mookie Betts, Francisco Lindor, and Mike Trout.
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Recently, I posted a really nice ( medium toned ) 1907-S Quarter that
I picked up in PCGS 45 - from our Paesan. It was the closest I could
locate after 5 years of looking for an AU example. I had an AU 58 in
the set I sold in 2011.... So, I can't blame JMW for buying the AU 50ish
with a slight facial abrasion.
No sooner than the 45 arrived - I picked up a nice 65. Once again, the Heir and the Spare !
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
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http://www.pcgs.com/setregistr...ltimeset.aspx?s=131384