5 Star Generals MacArthur Gold Soldout !! Clad half dollar soldout

kiyote · January 3, 2014 5:40AM

<< I couldn't resist, bought them all @ 32 ea, w/ogp and free shipping... >>

You started off the new year with a good deal!

Coins101 · January 3, 2014 7:21AM

<< I couldn't resist, bought them all @ 32 ea, w/ogp and free shipping... >>

So, are you going to hold them or start flipping?

Casman · January 3, 2014 8:23AM

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<< I couldn't resist, bought them all @ 32 ea, w/ogp and free shipping... >>

So, are you going to hold them or start flipping? >>

Hold for now, will consider selling at 85-100 range.

Coins101 · January 3, 2014 8:28AM

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<< I couldn't resist, bought them all @ 32 ea, w/ogp and free shipping... >>

So, are you going to hold them or start flipping? >>

Hold for now, will consider selling at 85-100 range. >>

That was my plan when I bought 10 of the Army (PCGS69) for $30 each after they were declared the King. I hope you have better luck than what I did.

That is why I am sitting this one out (so you should do good!! LOL!!)

Casman · January 3, 2014 8:53AM

Thanks...I was selling army ds at or around 100 by May, patience was key. I'm retired from the flip game and thus only have the 5 .

FullStrike · January 3, 2014 10:02AM

I have a few sealed boxes of 5 Coins that I'll be wanting to sell. Haven't done ebay in over 10 years,
what would be the best way to move these? Any ideas? Is BST any good?

Akbeez · January 5, 2014 7:46AM

Has the dust settled? Everyone got their quota? Any more shipments coming in?

Still a few good deals yet on the clads out there. Gold unc's seem to be stabilizing?

Raufus · January 5, 2014 12:00PM

WOW! The buyer made out on this one!! It sold in 9 minutes.

Great buy!

HATTRICK · January 6, 2014 11:08AM

January 5 sales report on mint website. Both gold coins revised down. Uncerc = 5,658

proof = 15,843 proof is King

HATTRICK · January 6, 2014 11:18AM

clad halves Proof = 37,338 + 9,999 uncirculated = 27,168 + 10,929

edited to correct for three coin proof sets.

Coins101 · January 6, 2014 12:53PM

<< clad halves Proof = 37,338 uncirculated = 27,168 + 10,929 >>

Don't you mean proof = 37,338 + 9,999 and Unc = 27,168 + 10,929??

HATTRICK · January 6, 2014 1:11PM

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<< clad halves Proof = 37,338 uncirculated = 27,168 + 10,929 >>

Don't you mean proof = 37,338 + 9,999 and Unc = 27,168 + 10,929?? >>

thanks, I corrected my post. past my bed time getting sleepy.

Akbeez · January 6, 2014 1:12PM

Interesting that the clad half unc's came up a bit -- last week was 37,967. This week 38,097. I would have expected them to drop.

The gold proof is king too, tho prices don't reflect...yet.

kiyote · January 7, 2014 2:30PM

Oh man, did I NAIL my predictions with the half dollar final numbers at the beginning of the year or what?

<< There will be more excitement this year for the Unc clad half, but the increase of the price of the coin during it's introductory offer of $1 and the lack of interest in the topic (along with a pertty awful design) could still hurt sales. I still think we'll have a new key with this coin, but barely, with mintages of about 38k vs. 39.5k for the last commem clad half, the 2011 Unc Army coin. >>

-Me, March 21st.

The last sales numbers showed 38,097 sold.

NamesJay · January 7, 2014 3:18PM

<< WOW! The buyer made out on this one!! It sold in 9 minutes.

Great buy! >>

Wow! That was a great deal - happy buyer there, I'm sure.

OPA · January 7, 2014 9:47PM

<< Oh man, did I NAIL my predictions with the half dollar final numbers at the beginning of the year or what?

<< There will be more excitement this year for the Unc clad half, but the increase of the price of the coin during it's introductory offer of $1 and the lack of interest in the topic (along with a pertty awful design) could still hurt sales. I still think we'll have a new key with this coin, but barely, with mintages of about 38k vs. 39.5k for the last commem clad half, the 2011 Unc Army coin. >>

-Me, March 21st.

The last sales numbers showed 38,097 sold. >>

Your crystal ball worked that time...Good call.

Casman · January 7, 2014 10:14PM

<< Oh man, did I NAIL my predictions with the half dollar final numbers at the beginning of the year or what?

<< There will be more excitement this year for the Unc clad half, but the increase of the price of the coin during it's introductory offer of $1 and the lack of interest in the topic (along with a pertty awful design) could still hurt sales. I still think we'll have a new key with this coin, but barely, with mintages of about 38k vs. 39.5k for the last commem clad half, the 2011 Unc Army coin. >>

-Me, March 21st.

The last sales numbers showed 38,097 sold. >>

You nailed it..... AGAIN...First time with the Army-D's which I loaded up on Thanks to your sleeper post.

I dug up an old link for the Army-D's (I was tracking the pricing) and if these Generals perform the same given their Key status then $85-$100 shouldn't be too far off.

Link

don129 · January 8, 2014 10:43AM

I found a seller offering several PCGS Graded Flag Label, First Strike MS69 halves for about $32 each. What do you think? Jump on it?

Akbeez · January 8, 2014 12:48PM

That's a terrible price. Definitely not and better share the seller here so we can all avoid that scheister...

Coins101 · January 8, 2014 1:31PM

I am amazed there are still good prices on the MacArthur $5 PR70DCAM FS/ER on eBay considering it is the new proof king. It seems like it is being over shadowed by the #2 MS coin.

GritsMan · January 8, 2014 1:41PM

<< I am amazed there are still good prices on the MacArthur $5 PR70DCAM FS/ER on eBay considering it is the new proof king. It seems like it is being over shadowed by the #2 MS coin. >>

I'm not because proofs just don't seem to get any traction, but as to exactly why, that is a mystery. My best guess is that even though it is king, 15,000+ coins is too many to be considered rare and desirable by anyone who can actually afford gold.

Akbeez · January 8, 2014 2:55PM

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<< Oddly tho, the proofs never seem to carry a big premium for low mintages. >>

This does seem to be the case. I've never understood it. >>

Collectors gravitate towards proofs, as shown by the fact that they regularly outsell uncirculated versions by a wide margin. Proofs highlight the design elements by contrasting them with the fields, are more aesthetically pleasing overall, and are more impressive when shown to friends and acquaintances.

Investors/speculators gravitate towards the uncirculated versions due mainly to their lower mintages.

The lower premiums for the proofs can be explained by their typically higher mintages (compared to uncs.) and lack of speculative interest. The demand profiles for proofs and uncs. are very different from each other. >>

I think Overdate gave a good analysis of this question, as I had the same. Rodney Dangerfield would have said "they get no respect".

don129 · January 9, 2014 3:12AM

OK.. so seller has 10 coins @ $35 each shipped (including OGP). 6 are the first strike flag label and 4 are the first strike "Five Star General Commemorative Label". So torn.... spend the $ or not????

OPA · January 9, 2014 3:17AM

<< I found a seller offering several PCGS Graded Flag Label, First Strike MS69 halves for about $32 each. What do you think? Jump on it? >>

If you didn't, some one else did. I don't see any graded ones available near a $32 BIN.

tander123 · January 9, 2014 12:30PM

I found them and just bought them.

Coins101 · January 9, 2014 1:15PM

<< I found them and just bought them. >>

L&C coins don't come with the Gov packaging.

Akbeez · January 9, 2014 4:56PM

$2172 for a MS70 half clad...Linky

Wholey BLEEP

Coins101 · January 9, 2014 11:38PM

<< $2172 for a MS70 half clad...Linky

Wholey BLEEP >>

The first strike versions were going for $2500+

OPA · January 10, 2014 4:54AM

<< I found them and just bought them. >>

Be kind and Post the auction #. I like to find out why they didn't come up on my search.

Coins101 · January 10, 2014 6:08AM

<< 

<< I found them and just bought them. >>

Be kind and Post the auction #. I like to find out why they didn't come up on my search. >>

I assume this is the one he pulled the trigger on:

Da Linky

eBay item number: 360833218548

Again, L&C Coins do not include the Gov Packaging with their coins.

OPA · January 10, 2014 8:03AM

Thanks....I believe that's LCcoins.....btw, they have increased their BIN for these to $50. Not interested in COA's for certified coins...

Coins101 · January 10, 2014 8:28AM

Right s/b L&C Coins even though they use LCcoins on ebay. I don't know why people pay more for boxes they end up putting in a closet but they do.

Akbeez · January 10, 2014 11:33AM

OGP carries a premium. Sometimes coins in OGP sell for higher than slabbed -- especially non-fs 69's or lower.

don129 · January 10, 2014 10:16PM

<< OK.. so seller has 10 coins @ $35 each shipped (including OGP). 6 are the first strike flag label and 4 are the first strike "Five Star General Commemorative Label". So torn.... spend the $ or not???? >>

These 10 coins are on their way to me now. Hoping I made a good purchase.

Coins101 · January 11, 2014 2:56AM

Looks like there is going to be a hole lot of flip in the future!!

CoinMaster1229 · January 11, 2014 4:17AM

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<< OK.. so seller has 10 coins @ $35 each shipped (including OGP). 6 are the first strike flag label and 4 are the first strike "Five Star General Commemorative Label". So torn.... spend the $ or not???? >>

These 10 coins are on their way to me now. Hoping I made a good purchase. >>

Is the Commemorative Five Star label still available, Does it cost more?

OPA · January 11, 2014 5:09AM

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<< OK.. so seller has 10 coins @ $35 each shipped (including OGP). 6 are the first strike flag label and 4 are the first strike "Five Star General Commemorative Label". So torn.... spend the $ or not???? >>

These 10 coins are on their way to me now. Hoping I made a good purchase. >>

Is the Commemorative Five Star label still available, Does it cost more? >>

Not sure, but I believe it is or was for bulk submitters.

FullStrike · January 11, 2014 7:34AM

Does anyone know the cutoff date for PCGS First Strike on these Generals Coins? I got an early sealed box with BU Set
( $5, $1, Half). It will be a long shot but I think I want to go for 70's , I never tried it before but I think it's about time I did.

edgar · January 11, 2014 8:40AM

April 20

Just noticed they refer to all five star commemoratives as "silver"

Onedollarnohollar · January 12, 2014 8:23AM

bought two ogp clad halves today for $27.50 ea. on the bay after reading this thread. totally an impulse buy. flip right away or hold? what say you?

Akbeez · January 12, 2014 9:30AM

BIN? Lucky dawg.

Hang tight. These have legs.

mrmojorisin · January 15, 2014 1:43AM

so coinvault had a set of 70s of the two gold commems, the UNC at MS70 and the proof at PF70 for $1400. I think they had two sets on their site. I "bought" one on 1/3/14. they JUST called me now and said they don't have the set and are cancelling the order. so either they lied about having a set and presold one, or they didn't want to sell at that price. damn!

Coinsponge · January 15, 2014 2:12AM

<< so coinvault had a set of 70s of the two gold commems, the UNC at MS70 and the proof at PF70 for $1400. I think they had two sets on their site. I "bought" one on 1/3/14. they JUST called me now and said they don't have the set and are cancelling the order. so either they lied about having a set and presold one, or they didn't want to sell at that price. damn! >>

Ouch, that hurts. I have had similar experiences with other dealers especially when the deal seems pretty good. Very frustrating.

Onedollarnohollar · January 15, 2014 6:53AM

Have the sales of ms70/pf70 gold (ditto the ogp non-graded) MacArthurs gone stale? Worth buying now or has the train left the station (for flipping). I'm also not seeing a huge upswing in

sales (or prices) on Ebay for the ms clads. What is the future...long term or short term hold?

7Jaguars · January 15, 2014 7:01AM

Uhh, flippers have had most of their way. Collectors, where art thou? Most were predicting more legs to these but in the blahs as you observe..

Overdate · January 15, 2014 7:11AM

The 1995-W Silver Eagle and the 1997 unc. Jackie Robinson did not start seriously rising in price until a few years after they were issued. I suspect the same will hold true for the MacArthur $5 and the clad half. In addition, the weak economy and the super-low mintages of some of the other Mint offerings are probably helping keep prices in check.

CoinMaster1229 · January 15, 2014 11:32AM

<< In November I returned 29 of 40 that would not have made ms69. Quality really sucked. >>

I had PCGS Grade the 11 coins I kept, I just received Grades back. 9 MS69`s & 2 MS70`s...
Was banking on a few more 70`s

mrmojorisin · January 16, 2014 12:15AM

i wanted a gold unc to just hold, well flip in a few years, but if i got in at the good price, i don't have a problem just sitting on it with the current mintage numbers. but i'm not gonna chase them real hard.

i found 10 of the clad unc for $27 each (in mint packaging) and got them in. i'll just hold those.

2manycoins2fewfunds · January 16, 2014 12:59AM

What is interesting in this discussion is the relative lack of anyone saying they got one for their collection of either modern gold commemoratives or modern commemorative half dollars.

Lots of speculative interest but few collectors.

It appears the number of old fashion collectors for the modern gold commemoratives is now well below 5,000 and below 20,000 for the halves.

Overdate · January 16, 2014 1:41AM

<< It appears the number of old fashion collectors for the modern gold commemoratives is now well below 5,000 and below 20,000 for the halves. >>

It's likely that many collectors wanted one but couldn't afford it at this time, due to the weak economy. Also, most collectors (as opposed to investors) go for the proofs, which typically outsell uncirculated by around 3 to 1 (as happened in this case).

Another factor is that many collectors wait to purchase in the aftermarket, when commem prices typically sink below Mint issue price. That happened to not be the case this time.

5 Star Generals MacArthur Gold Soldout !! Clad half dollar soldout

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