Will he add territorials or patterns while waiting?
This is my observation. Unless Hansen is building territorials or patterns sets outside the registery, I don’t beleive them to be a focus, presently. The three places that see the greatest activity is:
1- The Eliasberg Quest with 23 to go.
2- The Major Varieties , CS, about 60 to go.
3- A complete proof set, about 350 to go.
I think he will eventually build a Top 5 modern commememative set to go along with his completed pre- 1964.
I think at some point, he will add all the bullion and eagles, he has most of the buffalos.
This will leave territorials, patterns, and colonial. I would not doubt they are in the long term plan, but not sure where or the order.
The last thing I would say is that I beleive we will continue to see a lot of upgrades. I not sure if he is planning to stop until every coin is a condition census top 5.
Also, it appear he is showing some interest in minor Varities and Dies. I am not sure of the level of interest.
Proof Trade Dollar Feature (updated form 7/1/2018)
I first discussed this Proof Trade Dollars in a feature last summer. With the recent purchased of the finest known proof 1885 at the FUN show, the Trade Dollars, Proof (1873-1885) set is now completed.
The Proof Trade Dollar set is describe by PCGS this way: Assembling a complete set of proof trade dollars is even more difficult than the mint state collection. The true stoppers are the ultra-rare 1884 and 1885. Of the ten 1884 specimens that were minted, PCGS had graded nine, with the highest grade being a magnificent PR67. There are only five 1885 proofs, with the most recent sale being the Eliasberg specimen which realized nearly $1 million when auctioned by Bowers and Merena.
In a press release the past week by PCGS, the set was describe: With a grade point average of 68.736, the D.L. Hansen Trade Dollar Proof Set is now 100 percent complete and ranked as the number one proof Trade Dollar collection, 1873 to 1885. The listing for the entire set can be viewed in the newly redesigned PCGS Set Registry®.https://www.pcgs.com/news/finest-known-1885-trade-dollar-crossover
The total number of coins needed to complete this set is only 13. As small as the set is, only seven completed sets are listed in the all-time PCGS registry. Previously before Hansen Collection update, the finest was a current set owned by Simpson, set rating of 66.65 (due to Hansen’s upgrade, the rating dropped to 65.96, and now in fourth place). The Hall of Fame Legend Collection with the rating of 66.56 remains in second. The third place is the Louis Eliasberg's proof trade dollar set described with impeccable quality with rating of 66.03. The remaining three sets drops significantly in quality (Waldo, Norweb, and Carter).
I will describe the 13 piece Hansen Proof Trade Dollars in three parts. First is “The Pair”. This is the 1884 & 1885 coins. I hope you find the brief discussion interesting. I am not sure how the 1884 was obtained, but we know Hansen purchased the 1885 at the Heritage 2019 FUN US Coins Signature Auction in Orlando last week. The 1885 was not the only Proof Trade Dollar that he purchased. The other 3 coins will be briefly discussed in part two. The last part will be a repeat from the summer discussion on the purchase of coins from the Perfection Collection. This key purchase laid the foundation for the set greatness. Let’s begin.
The Hansen Pair
This appears to be the first time in history that the finest known Proof Trade Dollar 1884 and 1885 has paired up in a World Class Proof Trade Dollar set. The “Eliasberg Pair” comprises the finest 1885 and a third finest 1884. The Eliasberg Pair was featured in the Famous Eliasberg Proof Trade Dollar set as well as most recent HOF Legend set. A new era begins with the pairing of the two finest coins, but it comes with controversy. There are many in the community that is saddened with the splitting of the two Eliasberg coins. It may be a break in history, but it also can viewed positively as a new beginning. This could be especially true if the Hansen Collection is someday globally recognized as the Greatest Collection of US Coins of All-Times. This new pair would be the center pieces of the Proof Trade Dollar portion of that great collection.
1884 Proof Trade Dollar, PR67 CAC PCGS Coin #7064 / PCGS Serial #05781400 / POP 1/0
William Idler - Capt. John W. Haseltine and Steven K. Nagy - William Forrester Dunham, who sold his collection intact to B. Max Mehl in 1939 - William Forrester Dunham Collection - B. Max Mehl 6/1941:1150:$315 - Floyd Starr Collection - Stack's 10/1992:844, $176,000 - Jay Parrino ("The Mint") - Goldbergs 10/2000:1784, bought back at $510,600 - Jay Parrino - Heritage 11/2003:8312, not sold - Jay Parrino, DL Hansen Collection by private transaction
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. 1885 Proof Trade Dollar, PR65+ CA PCGS Coin #87065 / PCGS Serial #36982251 / POP 1/0
Ex: Superintendent of the Philadelphia Mint Archibald Loudon Snowden in 1885; possibly William Woodin in 1910; William Cutler Atwater; Atwater Collection (B. Max Mehl, 6/1946), lot 378; Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr.; Eliasberg Collection, Part II (Bowers and Merena, 4/1997), lot 2354, realized $907,500; Jay Parrino; Bruce Morelan via Legend for $1.5 million in 1999; Bruce Morelan traded this coin and the Eliasberg 1884 Trade dollar in 2006-2007 to John Albanese; both the 1884 and 1885 Trade dollars were then sold to Heritage by John Albanese; the 1885 was sold privately by Heritage Auctions for $3.3 million in January 2006; (Heritage 2019 January 9 - 14 FUN US Coins Signature Auction - Orlando #1291: Lot 4553, realized $3,960,000), DL Hansen Collection
Three other FUN Proof Trade Dollars
In addition, the spectacular 1885, Hansen purchased three other replacement coins. The first specimen is the 1875 PR67. This was described as 1875 Trade Dollar, PR67 / Type One Reverse/ One of the Finest-Known Examples. The coin had a nice description: This Superb Gem is shows the Type One Reverse with a berry beneath the eagle's claw. The survival rate for this issue seems high, with several hundred specimens graded at each of the major services (including possible resubmissions). Superb Gems are rare, however, as just two such pieces have been seen at PCGS, and only six coins have been rated at PR67 by NGC, with none finer at either company (11/18). This coin is fully struck with superior, seemingly flawless preservation and rich hues of variegated patina that adorn both sides. Included are shades of bright-green, deep-violet, charcoal-red, and beige. The only pedigree given was the coin was from The Greensboro Collection. But the coin did sale in the Heritage 2017 FUN US Coins Signature Auction where the coin realized $30,550. In that auction, the coin was pedigreed to The Sounder Collection. The coin also appeared in the Heritage 2014 CSNS US Coin Signature Auction where it realized $38,187.50. Hansen paid $38,500, so may not have been a bad deal.
1875 Proof Trade Dollar, PR67 PCGS Coin #7055 / PCGS Serial #25343353 / POP 2/0
Ex: (Heritage 2014 CSNS US Coin Signature Auction where it realized $38,187.50); The Sounder Collection (Heritage 2017 FUN US Coins Signature Auction where the coin realized $30,550); The Greensboro Collection (2019 FUN US Coins Signature Auction where the coin realized $38,500), DL Hansen Collection
The next specimen is the 1879 PR68CA. This was described as 1879 T$1 PR68 Cameo NGC PR68 Cameo / Incredible Quality, Among the Finest Known. The coin description: here is a spectacular, untoned example that showcases a depth of contrast rarely seen on any Trade dollar issue. The design elements are fully struck, and fields are so well-mirrored that the depth of reflectivity is seemingly infinite. An exceptional proof type coin of this important commercial trade coin. This coin is also from The Greensboro Collection. Hansen paid $39,600.
1877 Proof Trade Dollar, PR68CA PCGS Coin # 87059 / PCGS Serial # 36467556 / POP 3/0
Ex: (Ex: Dallas Signature (Heritage, 10/2006), lot 2327, which realized $63,250. The Greensboro Collection (2019 FUN US Coins Signature Auction where the coin realized $39,600), DL Hansen Collection
The last specimen is PCGS POP 1/0. The 1882 specimen replaces the second finest 1882 known that is in Hansen’s Collection. This coin was described as 1882 Trade Dollar, PR68 Cameo / Important Proof-Only Issue /Finest Certified at PCGS. The coin description: The 1882 Trade dollar was not a well-struck issue, and many examples seen show a soft strike on Liberty's head and the upper stars. This delightful specimen shows full radials on all stars and just the slightest softness on Liberty's hair. The other design elements are sharply detailed throughout. The frosty devices contrast boldly with the deeply mirrored fields, producing a stunning cameo effect. The impeccably preserved surfaces are enhanced by shades of low-intensity pale gold toning, with a few hints of electric-blue at the peripheries. Overall visual appeal is terrific. The Registry Set enthusiast will find no suitable replacement for this spectacular coin. This coin is also from The Greensboro Collection. Hansen paid $144,000.
1882 Proof Trade Dollar, PR68CA CAC PCGS Coin # 87062 / PCGS Serial # 06572944 / POP 1/0
Ex: Ex: The Sounder Collection (Heritage 2017 FUN US Coins Signature Auction where the coin realized $94,000); The Greensboro Collection (2019 FUN US Coins Signature Auction where the coin realized $144,000), DL Hansen Collection
Summer 2018 Purchase of the Perfection Proof Trade Dollar set
The Hansen collection upgraded 10 of the 13 coins that increase the set GPA w/ top set bonus to 68.62. The upgraded included 4 top Pop 1/0 PCGS certified coins. At the time, I said that the set will need to add the 1885 proof to reach the finest of all-time position. I also said, the finest graded specimen (PR63+ CA) is in the Simpson current finest set, so that one may be off the market. The Eliasberg specimen may be out the somewhere. This specimen is not certified (by PCGS), but it is estimated having a grade of MS65CA. The acquisition this coin would elevate the set to undisputable finest of all-time. Little did I know that it would show up a few months later in the last week’s FUN Auction.
These upgrades are from the Perfection Collection and are beautiful and some of the finest coins known for this denomination. There were a few others from the Perfection purchase, but this is a grouping of the finest.
1874 T$1 PR66+ PCGS POP 2/0
1876 T$1, CA PR67CA PCGS POP 1/0
1880 T$1 Trade, CA PR67+ CA PCGS POP 1/0 (No picture)
1881 T$1 Trade, CA PR67+ CA PCGS POP 1/0
1882 T$1 Trade, DC PR67+ DC PCGS POP 1/1 NOTE: This coin was replaced by a POP 1/0 FUN purchase
I'm rarely awestruck, but seeing these laid out like this Currin is really wonderful. Thanks for all your efforts in making this a terrific and historic blog. I just wonder what its going to be like 5 and 10 years from now if this keeps up. I really get tachycardia from such modern coins, being that I only collect pre-1840, but perhaps I should open thinking one of these days. Bruce did you think this is now the finest set ever assembled in its totality at this point? Even the duplicates are now becoming of such high quality.
@tradedollarnut said:
That price for the 1882 is crazy. I’d like to thank him for restoring my sanity from buying the Knoxville 1883
irrespective of price, do you feel his 1882 is the finest for that date? thanks
No idea. The nuances of ranking common date trade dollars (combining non cam, cam, deep cam and killer color) are very complex. Probably comes down to personal preference
@tradedollarnut said:
That price for the 1882 is crazy. I’d like to thank him for restoring my sanity from buying the Knoxville 1883
irrespective of price, do you feel his 1882 is the finest for that date? thanks
No idea. The nuances of ranking common date trade dollars (combining non cam, cam, deep cam and killer color) are very complex. Probably comes down to personal preference
@GoBust said:
Bruce did you think this is now the finest set ever assembled in its totality at this point? Even the duplicates are now becoming of such high quality.
Probably. It’s really hard to compare grades from different eras - PCGS proof grades are probably a point higher now from when I built my set. With that said, Eliasberg’s common date proofs weren’t that outstanding. Simpson’s are, but his rarities are a bit lacking. I had a bit of both but not uber graded common dates.
And trade dollars are more than just the proofs. My old set in unc blows away anything ever put together. The new owner intends on doing a proof set as well.
@tradedollarnut said:
That price for the 1882 is crazy. I’d like to thank him for restoring my sanity from buying the Knoxville 1883
irrespective of price, do you feel his 1882 is the finest for that date? thanks
No idea. The nuances of ranking common date trade dollars (combining non cam, cam, deep cam and killer color) are very complex. Probably comes down to personal preference
Gazes
I was going to discuss depth of the Proof Trade Dollars over the weekend, so this is a preview. If you have doubts that the 1882 PR68CA PCGS POP 1/0 is the finest, then maybe his 1882 PR67DC PCGS POP 1/1 will be more satisfying. If you still have doubts, then let’s go with his 1882 PCGS PR67+ CA POP 1/2. Being the Hansen collection have the Top 3 specimens, then I believe he has the field covered.
@tradedollarnut said:
That price for the 1882 is crazy. I’d like to thank him for restoring my sanity from buying the Knoxville 1883
irrespective of price, do you feel his 1882 is the finest for that date? thanks
No idea. The nuances of ranking common date trade dollars (combining non cam, cam, deep cam and killer color) are very complex. Probably comes down to personal preference
Gazes
I was going to discuss depth of the Proof Trade Dollars over the weekend, so this is a preview. If you have doubts that the 1882 PR68CA PCGS POP 1/0 is the finest, then maybe his 1882 PR67DC PCGS POP 1/1 will be more satisfying. If you still have doubts, then let’s go with his 1882 PCGS PR67+ CA POP 1/2. Being the Hansen collection have the Top 3 specimens, then I believe he has the field covered.
@tradedollarnut said:
That price for the 1882 is crazy. I’d like to thank him for restoring my sanity from buying the Knoxville 1883
irrespective of price, do you feel his 1882 is the finest for that date? thanks
No idea. The nuances of ranking common date trade dollars (combining non cam, cam, deep cam and killer color) are very complex. Probably comes down to personal preference
Gazes
I was going to discuss depth of the Proof Trade Dollars over the weekend, so this is a preview. If you have doubts that the 1882 PR68CA PCGS POP 1/0 is the finest, then maybe his 1882 PR67DC PCGS POP 1/1 will be more satisfying. If you still have doubts, then let’s go with his 1882 PCGS PR67+ CA POP 1/2. Being the Hansen collection have the Top 3 specimens, then I believe he has the field covered.
In your enthusiasm, you are falling into a trap. Coin grading has changed too much over the past decade to definitively call anything without a long history the finest known. Simpson’s set is spectacular and there are old time coins that are amazing. When you’re splitting hairs between proofs that change two grades over a trivial issue, you have to be careful not to talk in absolutes
Yes Bruce, your circulation strike were amazing. It's going to be tough for BC to improve it. Seeing these coins makes me understand how you became a tradedollarnut despite your normal looking outward appearance. Of course that's one "Bust"nut to another. See you soon I hope.
@Gazes said:
I think one thing to remember when looking at individual coins in the Hansen collection is that his goal is to collect one of everything! This is a goal very few have ever tried to take on. So sometimes his options may be more limited or compromises must be made. If one is building just the finest St Gaudens set or the just the Finest Trade dollar set, I think your approach should be different. If you are trying to get one of everything sometimes its just not possible that every coin is all there.
Gazes.. I think your comments are all true, but also I think the Hansen’s Proof Trade Dollar is a attempt to assemble the finest. There are several objectives that a collector can have in assembling sets. Some collectors like coins that match, some may like color, some like untone, and some want the finest specimens that are available, as it appear to me for this set. You are correct in collecting one of everything, at times you will need to compromise. The Trade Dollar series turned out really well from top to bottom. Not much compromising.
@Gazes said:
I think one thing to remember when looking at individual coins in the Hansen collection is that his goal is to collect one of everything! This is a goal very few have ever tried to take on. So sometimes his options may be more limited or compromises must be made. If one is building just the finest St Gaudens set or the just the Finest Trade dollar set, I think your approach should be different. If you are trying to get one of everything sometimes its just not possible that every coin is all there.
Gazes.. I think your comments are all true, but also I think the Hansen’s Proof Trade Dollar is a attempt to assemble the finest. There are several objectives that a collector can have in assembling sets. Some collectors like coins that match, some may like color, some like untone, and some want the finest specimens that are available, as it appear to me for this set. You are correct in collecting one of everything, at times you will need to compromise. The Trade Dollar series turned out really well from top to bottom. Not much compromising.
What I have found to be remarkable is that as time has gone on, it seems that there is less and less compromise and he is trying to get not only every coin but the finest when possible. I know there are exceptions but there are many examples where he could have just bought an avg coin to fill a slot and he has gone out of his way to get the best.
@Gazes said:
I think one thing to remember when looking at individual coins in the Hansen collection is that his goal is to collect one of everything! This is a goal very few have ever tried to take on. So sometimes his options may be more limited or compromises must be made. If one is building just the finest St Gaudens set or the just the Finest Trade dollar set, I think your approach should be different. If you are trying to get one of everything sometimes its just not possible that every coin is all there.
Gazes.. I think your comments are all true, but also I think the Hansen’s Proof Trade Dollar is a attempt to assemble the finest. There are several objectives that a collector can have in assembling sets. Some collectors like coins that match, some may like color, some like untone, and some want the finest specimens that are available, as it appear to me for this set. You are correct in collecting one of everything, at times you will need to compromise. The Trade Dollar series turned out really well from top to bottom. Not much compromising.
What I have found to be remarkable is that as time has gone on, it seems that there is less and less compromise and he is trying to get not only every coin but the finest when possible. I know there are exceptions but there are many examples where he could have just bought an avg coin to fill a slot and he has gone out of his way to get the best.
Not only that, but he is purchasing POP 1/0 coins, even when he his the second finest in his collection.
I hope you have enjoyed Proof Trade Dollar week. Few days ago, we had a real good look at the coin dubbed, “Mr. Big”. Then, we did a deep dive into the 13-piece ATF Trade Dollars, Proof (1873-1885) set. This is small set that we saw is packed full of great specimens. This last posting for Trade Dollar Week will be The Hansen Collection of US Proof Trade Dollars. Presently, there are 36 coins represented the Hansen Collection. These coins are represented in three complete sets, and I found one 4-tier common coin still in the collection. There may be more in the registry, or there could be coins in his inventory that is not in the registry. Bottom line, the Hansen Trade Dollar Collection has 36 coins that are known to the community.
I am predicting this 3-tier collection of Proof Trade Dollars will be award the PCGS HOF this summer. As far as I know, there never has been a collection with three complete sets of 1873-1883, and one of them completed thru 1885. According to auction results and Price Guide information, the total value of the collection is $5,824,600. The depth of the collection is amazing. I will discussion the three sets in the collection, and the 4-coin deep 1882. Let’s start with the 1882.
Hansen’s Four 1882s
The 1882 is considered a common trade dollar. Q. David Bowers describes the date as: For the fifth year in a row, the only trade dollars minted at Philadelphia were Proofs. The mintage figure of 1,097 Proofs was nearly equal to the number (1,100) of silver Proof sets made of other denominations from the dime to the Morgan dollar. Examples are readily available and are very popular due to the overall low mintage figure. Many are flatly struck. Walter H. Breen suggests that this may have been due to a deteriorating hub used to produce the die.
I don’t know of many Proof Trade Dollar collectors that spend much time or money on this date. Hansen has about quarter of a million dollars invested in the common date alone. The amazing Legend set had a PR66 PCGS POP 19/31. The current Simpson collection has a very nice PR67DC PCGS POP 2/3. Eliasburg specimen is estimated at PR64CA PCGS POP 47/141. Please note as TDN and others have pointed out; grades from different eras can be tricky. In keeping things simple, all I have to go on is the present PCGS POP report. As I said before, Hansen has 4 and they the POP 1/0, 1/1, 1/2, and final a POP 8/5. The means the top 3 1882 Proof Trade Dollars are in the Hansen Collection. The only missing 1882 Top 5 PCGS coin is in Simpson’s set. I think this is an example of the deep of the Hansen Collection. (Note: The Trade Dollars are not the only series that he goes several layers deep.) You can find the picture for the PR68 CA PCGS POP 1 /0 in my last update. The PR67+ DC is below. There are no pictures available for the PR67+ CA or PR66 CA.
1882 (in ATF #1 1873-1885 set) PR68 CA PCGS POP 1 /0 (PCGS Value $144,000) 1882 (in ATF #3 1873-1883 set) PR67+ DC PCGS POP 1 /1 (PCGS Value $67,000) 1882 (in ATF #6 1873-1883 set) PR67+ CA PCGS POP 1 /2 (PCGS Value $39,500) 1882 (in misc varieties set) PR66 CA PCGS POP 8/5 (PCGS Value $13,000)
Hansen’s 1882 PR67+ DC / Hansen #2 Coin
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. ATF #1 - Trade Dollars, Proof (1873-1885)
We discussed this set in details a couple days ago. It is no question that the theme/goal of this set is the “Finest PCGS Specimens Known”. I think the purchase of the 1882 PR68 at the FUN Auction confirms the goal of this set. The set already had the second finest PCGS certified specimen. There are only 4 certified PCGS coins that can improve the grade of this set. The two known is the 1873 PR66 in the Driftwood set, and the monster 1878 PR69CA in the Simpson set. All the pictures of the amazing Hansen coins were in previous posting. PCGS places the total value of the set at $5,310,000. Truly a HOF set and not much else can be said.
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. ATF #3 - Trade Dollars, Proof (1873-1883)
Here is when it gets really interesting. Are the coins in this set duplicates, or do they have a higher status in the collection? PCGS Coin Guide places the value of the coins in this set at $233,000. I have not heard JB or DLH say for sure what the long term goal will be. Why would you keep additional coins or sets? Maybe someone can provide the answer to the community.
There are many themes that collectors use for their sets. Some collectors desire to have the finest known, i.e. POP 1/0. Think we see that in Hansen’s #1 set. Some collectors, as I believe TDN, desire to have the finest that he can find, and that may not be the POP 1/0 coin. There are other collectors like coins that match, some may like colorful coins, some people like untoned; the reasons could be many. I don’t know Hansen intentions for this set, but I did observed a theme (maybe). Now, before you get to excited, the pictures were very limited for the specimens in this set. To me, they look like a few of them are matching. You be the judge.
1875 T$1, CA PR66CA Certification #25666121, PCGS #87055, PCGS POP 3/3
1877 T$1, CA PR66+ CA CAC Certification #19510832, PCGS #87057, PCGS POP 1/3
1879 T$1 Trade, CA PR67CA CAC Certification #25043748, PCGS #87059, POP 4/4
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. ATF #6 - Trade Dollars, Proof (1873-1883)
The third set has the lesser graded coins. So, the value of the set is a measly $119,000. Will Hansen keep this set in his collection or sell it? Interesting, this is most colorful set. I doubt it means anything; it is just an interesting observation.
1875 T$1, CA PR65+ CA CAC Certification #25044067, PCGS #87055 POP 2/10
In this week’s update, we are comparing a grouping of half dollars from 1796 to 1921. Again, as each week so far, the challenge has been very competitive. Hansen still holds a slight lead overall.
The first comparison is the 1794. Eliasberg had a very nice MS61. This coin recently sold at the Heritage 2019 FUN US Coins Signature Auction in Orlando. The coin realized $288,000. It is not known who purchased this specimen. Both of Eliasberg 1796 and 1797 Draped Bust Small Eagle half dollars were a significant higher grade than Hansen’s circulated very fine examples. Also, Eliasberg 1815 was just a couple ticks better than Hansen. After this coin, the tide turned with a tie for the 1836 Reeded Edge Half Dollar, and Hansen completed the challenge with wins for the 1839-O, 1870-CC and 1921-D.
There was a come discussion early this week why examples like the 1817/4 (11 known) Capped Half Dollar is not included in the challenge. My similar question last week was with excluding the 1901-S quarter. In fairness of the challenge, I have to stick with the coins listed in the Doug Winters 2000 blog title “Stand Alone Coins” https://raregoldcoins.com/blog/articles/stand-alone-coins
They are coins with these criteria: The coin is rare but not so rare that it becomes esoteric. The appeal of the coin is widespread. Its "essence" is easily definable--it has a great story or interesting history. It has "cross appeal" --i.e. collectors in various series all want this particular coin. It is affordable. It exists in relatively high grades(s).
I am a little disappointed when coins like the 1901-S quarter and 1817/4 are excluded. Maybe we can have a future challenge of forum member’s favorites.
Again this week, the challenge ended with a tie in the half dollar challenge at 3-3-1. Hansen maintains his 4 coin lead. Next week challenge will be a nice slate of silver dollars.
Half Dollar Challenge
1794 Half Dollar: First U.S. half dollar; rare low mintage issue.
Hansen Coin: 1794 Flowing Hair Half Dollar PCGS VF35 (PCGS POP 24/25)
Eliasberg Coin: 1794 Flowing Hair Half Dollar PCGS MS61 (PCGS POP 2/1)
1796-97 Half Dollars: Rarest U.S. silver type (Small Eagle reverse)
Hansen Coin: 1796 Draped Bust Small Eagle Half Dollar PCGS VF35 (PCGS POP 10/28)
Hansen Coin: 1797 Draped Bust Small Eagle Half Dollar PCGS VF40 (PCGS POP2/18)
Eliasberg Coin: 1796 Draped Bust Small Eagle Half Dollar PCGS 63 (PCGS POP 2/2)
Eliasberg Coin: 1797 Draped Bust Small Eagle Half Dollar PCGS 62+ (PCGS POP1/4)
1815 Half Dollar: Rarest year of the Capped Bust design.
Hansen Coin: 1815 Capped Bust Half Dollars PCGS MS63 (PCGS POP 3/7)
Eliasberg Coin: 1815 Capped Bust Half Dollars PCGS MS64+ (PCGS POP 1/2)
1839-O Half Dollar: First collectible branch mint half dollar; obverse mintmark.
Hansen Coin: 1839-O Capped Bust Half Dollars PCGS MS65 (PCGS POP 5/3)
Eliasberg Coin: 1839-O Capped Bust Half Dollars Est. MS63 (PCGS POP 10/15)
1870-CC Half Dollar: First Carson City half dollar.
Hansen Coin: 1870-CC Liberty Seated Half Dollars PCGS MS64 (PCGS POP 1/0) Finest PCGS Certified
Eliasberg Coin: 1870-CC Liberty Seated Half Dollars Est. VF20 (PCGS POP 7/73)
1921-D Half Dollar: Rarest modern half dollar.
Hansen Coin: 1921-D Walking Liberty Half Dollars PCGS MS65+ CAC (PCGS POP 3/3)
Eliasberg Coin: 1921-D Walking Liberty Half Dollars Est. MS61 (PCGS POP 8/259)
Hansen’s 1870-CC Liberty Seated Half Dollars PCGS MS64 (PCGS POP 1/0) Finest PCGS Certified
Hansen’s 1921-D Walking Liberty Half Dollars PCGS MS65+ CAC (PCGS POP 3/3)
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. Next Week - Silver Dollars:
1794 Silver Dollar: First U.S. silver dollar; very rare low mintage issue.
1836 Gobrecht Dollar: Popular short-lived design, attractive design.
1851-52 Silver Dollars: Very rare issues that exist both as originals and restrikes.
1870-CC Silver Dollar: First coin struck at the popular Carson City mint.
1889-CC Silver Dollar: Rarest Carson City Morgan dollar.
1893-S Silver Dollar: Rarest Morgan dollar.
1895 Silver Dollar: Popular proof-only(?) issue.
1921 Peace Dollar: First year of issue; one year type with High Relief design.
This week I will be changing focus to some modern upgrades. I have been over looking the early to mid-20th Century coins in the Hansen Collection. Many of you on this forum view these coins with passion. The purchase of 1956-D Roosie was brought to my attention by a forum member. So, this week I will make a couple updates for a few 20th Century series. This will include several coins from the Heritage 2019 FUN US Coins Signature Auction in Orlando. Stay tune.
This week let’s change focus and even centuries. Some the early to mid-20th Century coins in the Hansen collection get over looked by the BIG coins. There are a lot of registry individuals on this forum that these coins are their passion. This update is for you. The purchase of 1956-D Roosie was brought to my attention by a forum member. So, this week I will make a couple updates for a few 20th Century series. There were several coins from the Heritage 2019 FUN US Coins Signature Auction in Orlando that made improvement in sets in these series.
I am starting with three dimes that were purchased at the fun show. Two of them are in the Mercury Dime series and one Roosie. I think this is a reminder to us that even when the heat is on for the purchase of a $4 Million Dollar coin, the little guys are still in the mix.
Mercury Dimes
This series is one that Hansen is very deep. He has three 100% complete sets. Although in the main set (Mercury Dimes FB Basic Set, Circulation Strikes - 1916-1945), Hansen is number two in the ranking. Being he has no partial completed sets listed, then you could assume there are four and five tier coins lying around with no place to go. Could we see the Hansen’s MERCs going maybe five sets deep, due to there still room to improve his top tier MERC set. Forsythe is still the king of MERCs, with many great coins. To see Hansen’s sets: https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/half-dimes/mercury-dimes-major-sets/mercury-dimes-fb-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1916-1945/235
He improved his #2 set with two new purchases from the FUN Auctions. He has much work to do before he could overtake the present #1 set. Can anyone speak on if that is even possible without the #1 set going up for sale? It would be interesting to know.
1917-D Mercury Dime, FB MS66+ FB CAC PCGS Coin # 4913 / PCGS Serial # 31814081 / POP 3/0
Description: Full Bands representatives of the 1917-D Mercury dime grade no finer than MS66. Gems are scarce, and Premium Gems are decidedly rare. This Plus-designated piece is among the finest Full Bands coins at PCGS and an essential acquisition for Registry Sets. Original mint luster glistens beneath russet and olive-gold toning on each side, and the design elements showcase full sharpness. A lack of bother some abrasions promotes strong eye appeal on this magnificent coin. (Heritage 1/2019)
Ex: FUN Signature (Heritage, 1/2003), lot 6507; ANA Signature (Heritage, 8/2010), lot 4493; Central States Signature (Heritage, 4/2011), lot 5075, The Charles McNutt Collection (Heritage 1/2019 realized $9,6000) – Hansen Collection
Description: Plentiful through MS66 Full Bands, the 1929 transitions to conditionally scarce in MS67 and extremely rare any finer. This piece presents full strike definition over all-brilliant, radiantly lustrous, and practically unmarked surfaces. (Heritage 1/2019)
The Roosie dime series have several big fish in the deep end of the pool. Haylcon, Hall, Almighty, and Hansen are the biggest competitors in this series. Hansen is battling hard and presently in 2nd place. He updated one specimen from FUN, so that may say something about the competition. The 1956-D has remarkable color. Did anyone see that coin and can comment on it. Unlike the Mercury’s, Hansen has posted only one set so far.
1956-D Roosevelt Dime, FB MS68FB PCGS Coin # 85113 / PCGS Serial # 81479653 / POP 1/0
Description: Remarkably cherry-red and apple-green toning consumes the obverse of this lustrous and well-struck dime. The reverse displays similar shades although in more delicate fashion. Pristine aside from unobtrusive contact on the portrait. (Heritage 1/2019)
Ex: Unknown (Heritage 2016 US Coins Signature Auction, realized $7,637.50); Five Generations of Eby Collection (Heritage 1/2019 realized $8,400) – Hansen Collection
The 1956D Roosie above is from the Just Having Collection auctioned back in 2009 in a PCGS MS67FB Holder. IMHO it is the finest known 1956D. Hansen has 3 registered 46 - 64 Silver sets. #1, #4 and #73. He only has one registered 46 - Date set. The Halcyon set is #1 in that category and is unbeatable because of the number of pop 1/0 and top pops from 65 - Date that are in the set. The Halcyon set would have to be sold or broken up before Hansen can claim #1 in the 46 - Date set. I believe the owner has no intention of either. But you never know...
I also know that while Hansen added the pop 1/0 56D to his Roosie set he also lost his pop 1/0 bonus for the 49P 68FB as another was slabbed at FUN. Lets see where that coin ends up over the next couple months. I think Hansen has some real competition in the Roosie Series, Even though it's probably #565 down the line of sets he is focusing on.
@onlyroosies said:
The 1956D Roosie above is from the Just Having Collection auctioned back in 2009 in a PCGS MS67FB Holder. IMHO it is the finest known 1956D. Hansen has 3 registered 46 - 64 Silver sets. #1, #4 and #73. He only has one registered 46 - Date set. The Halcyon set is #1 in that category and is unbeatable because of the number of pop 1/0 and top pops from 65 - Date that are in the set. The Halcyon set would have to be sold or broken up before Hansen can claim #1 in the 46 - Date set. I believe the owner has no intention of either. But you never know...
I also know that while Hansen added the pop 1/0 56D to his Roosie set he also lost his pop 1/0 bonus for the 49P 68FB as another was slabbed at FUN. Lets see where that coin ends up over the next couple months. I think Hansen has some real competition in the Roosie Series, Even though it's probably #565 down the line of sets he is focusing on.
Just my 10c worth
Onlyroosies
Absolutely!
Halcyon easily has the #1 Roosie set in all catagories except the basic 1946-1964 Silver series. Halcyon has a H.o.F. Clad set. No one is even close.
@dbldie55 said:
I notice he has an 1864 $2.5 in the 1792-date set, but it has not been put in the 1792-1964 set.
The 1864 was not need for the quest. The collection has an amazing Proof 66 1864 $2.5 that was purchased at 2018 FUN auction. This new coin does fill a hole in the CS sets.
To continue focus on early to mid-20th Century coins what could be more popular the Lincoln cents? Everyone loves these coins, and I believe Hansen does too. He presently has the #1 set, but that does not appear to stop him from improving it. He has the ATF #1 and ATF #3 for “Lincoln Cents Classic Set, Circulation Strikes (1909-1964)”.
From the FUN auction, Hansen came away with 12 upgrades to his Lincolns. The 1926-S was by far this biggest take away. This is only tied for the finest, but the coin is very rare in MS65RD. Actually Hansen is mention in the Heritage description. I think you would call that very good marketing. The total realized for the dozen lot was $338,760. Not a bad lot. Also, we can describe the lot as 11 of the 12 upgrades were either POP 1/0 or tied for the finest, and 4 of the 12 were POP 1/0.
With the purchased of the 1926-S, the only non MS65 and above coin in the collection is the 1922 No D 1C Strong Reverse PCGS certified MS64RB POP 4/5. I sure would love to be holding a MS65RD, but at the moment the POP report indicates ZERO! According to CoinFacts, the finest red/brown (MS65+RB) is housed in the Redlincoln Collection and the finest red (MS64RD) is in the Stewart Blay Collection. There is also a MS65BN, but not sure if Hansen would be interested in a brownie. He has no pre-1964 MS69RD in the collection. That could be a future interest. As we have discussed several times before, he does not have the ultra-rare 1958 DDO. So, I don’t the upgrades are over! Do you?
Lincoln Purchases from FUN:
1912-D Lincoln Cent MS66+ RD POP 4/0 – realized $15,600, Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1915-D Lincoln Cent MS67RD POP 1/0 – realized $43,200 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1918-D Lincoln Cent MS67RD POP 1/0 – realized $45,600 Ex: Unknown
1919-D Lincoln Cent MS67RD POP 1/1 – realized $31,200 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1921 Lincoln Cent MS68RD POP 4/0 – realized $36,000 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1926-S Lincoln Cent MS65RD POP 2/0 – realized $90,000 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1940 Lincoln Cent MS68RD POP 5/0 – realized $6,600 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1942-S Lincoln Cent MS68RD POP 2/0 – realized $7,800 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1944 Lincoln Cent MS68RD POP 2/0 – realized $11,400 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1945-D Lincoln Cent MS68RD POP 1/0 – realized $14,400 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1949-D Lincoln Cent MS67+ RD POP 1/0 – realized $5,760 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1954 Lincoln Cent MS67RD POP 6/0 – realized $31,200 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
I featured my TOP 5. I excluded the 1949-D POP 1/0, included the only non-finest 1919-D POP 1/1. This coin looks the most amazing to me. I am not sure how one could be better. If you are a Lincoln guy, I hope you enjoy these 5 specimens.
1915-D Lincoln Cent MS67RD PCGS Coin # 2482 / PCGS Serial # 29714503 / POP 1/0
Description: Surface preservation is unmatched, and the visual appeal is equally good. Aside from softness on the lower part of AM in AMERICA, the relief elements are fully brought-up. Light copper-orange color paints each side with shimmering satin mint luster. A minute carbon spot above Lincoln's shoulder is the only apparent marker for pedigree purposes. (Heritage 1/2019)
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. 1918-D Lincoln Cent MS67RD PCGS Coin # 2509 / PCGS Serial # 04196032 / POP 1/0
Description: This 1918-D Lincoln cent is the finest known, the only Superb Gem example with fully brilliant red mint luster. Housed in a green-label PCGS holder, this example has virtually flawless surfaces with bold design motifs. Lincoln's hair and beard are fully defined, as are the wheat ears on the reverse. The present piece meets all of those demands laid out by Mr. Guth. In addition, there are no spots or other marks of any sort on either side. Two trivial toning lines are evident right of the E in ONE, and are the only distractions on this amazing cent. (Heritage 1/2019)
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. 1919-D Lincoln Cent MS67RD **
**PCGS Coin # 2518 / PCGS Serial # 81958799 / POP 1/1
Description: Fiery brick-red color dominates both sides of this exquisite Superb Gem 1919-D Lincoln cent, one of the few finest survivors of this difficult mintmarked issue. As with the 1919-S, the emphasis was on quantity not quality, and more than 57 million were struck in this postwar boom year. But few survivors show such marvelous preservation, accompanied by an impeccable strike and a near-total lack of spots or other distractions. (Heritage 1/2019)
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. 1926-S Lincoln Cent MS65RD PCGS Coin # 2575 / PCGS Serial # 25684178 / POP 2/0
Description: The rarity of the 1926-S Lincoln cent in Gem full Red condition is such that even the most patient and well-funded collectors may never have an opportunity to acquire an example. Even the D.L. Hansen #1 All-Time Finest PCGS Registry Set of Lincoln cents does not contain a representative of this issue in MS65 Red. This is a direct reflection of the 1926-S cent's status as the absolute rarest issue in the series in Gem full Red condition, being significantly rarer as such than the 1955 Doubled Die variety, which is well-known as a major series condition rarity. The 1922 No D cent is unknown as a Red Gem, but it is more accurately a variety, and not an individual issue, much like the 1955 Doubled Die. (Heritage 1/2019)
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. 1945-D Lincoln Cent MS68RD PCGS Coin # 2737 / PCGS Serial # 25201506 / POP 1/0
Description: This miraculous example of the 1945-D cent, graded MS68 Red, has escaped all those mediocre outcomes, however, showing a great strike, vibrant luster and color, and a complete absence of any mentionable impairments. (Heritage 1/2019)
Ex: Long Beach Signature (Heritage, 6/2015), lot 3787, where it realized $14,100; Jerald L. Martin, (Heritage 1/2019 realized $14,400) – Hansen Collection
I browsed the three big auctions at the upcoming Long Beach Show. There were no coins available in these auctions that are very significant. There were no Mr. BIGs. I could not find any coins offered for the 23 remaining countdown coins in the Eliasberg Quest. There were couple proofs that would be wonderful additions to the collection, and several upgrades. The Goldberg Auction did not have anything that I found would to have any noteworthy improvement for the Hansen Collection.
There were a couple early proof half dimes in the Heritage Long Beach Signature Auction that could be very nice additions. The Legend Long Beach Regency 30 Auction has a couple gold proofs. Also, Legend has quite a few of upgrades available, especially for the St. Gaudens Double Eagles and the Barber Half Dollars sets. Will Hansen get any of these? We don't know yet. So, let’s take a look at these top coins that are being offered.
The first specimen is an 1829 Proof Half Dime. I am not sure why but the PCGS master proof set does not contain any Proof Capped Bust Half Dimes. I think this is a common inconsistency that PCGS has with their set requirements. The Capped Bust Half Dimes, Proof (1829-1837) PCGS set does not have any sets registered yet. For this reason, I would assume that there are no Proof Capped Bust Half Dimes in the Hansen Collection. If this is true, then the 1829 could be the first.
Description: The year 1829 marked multiple milestones for the U.S. Mint, including its second Mint Building and the introduction of close-collar technology which refined the facility's output. Proofs were struck for the Second Mint Building cornerstone and distribution to important persons. This Gem proof with strong contrast is richly toned yet thoroughly Cameo-worthy. The fields are reflective under gold-orange outer patina with sea-green and blue along much of the margins. A marvelously appealing representative of one of the few well-documented early proof issues bearing one of the most famous pedigrees in all of numismatics.
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. 1841 Seated Liberty Half Dime, PR65 - Tied for Finest Certified
This early Liberty Seated Half Dime is needed for the collection. This is a very nice specimen assuming it would cross over to PCGS without reduction.
Description: Russet, pale blue, and silver-white areas alternate to splendid effect on this attractive Gem proof 1841 half dime, one of perhaps eight to 10 known to survive of this early proof issue. The design elements are fully struck. NGC reports one each in PR63, PR64, and two in PR65, while PCGS shows two examples in PR63 and one in PR63 Cameo, making a total of seven grading events between the two services -- not necessarily all separate coins. In any case, this piece is tied for finest graded, at a minimum, and is the finer of only two with the CAC green approval sticker.
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. $2.50 1882 PCGS PR66+ DCAM CAC - WOW, WOW, WOW! Did we say WOW? This coin is a near miss PR67 DCAM.
This would be a very nice addition to the Proof Quarter Eagle Gold Set. Legend is very excited about this coin.
Description: Remarkable ultra deep mirrors explode from all over. The mirrors are also crystal clear and are virtually perfect. We think we see one small line that keeps this coin from PR67 DC. Wouldn't it be nice if all coins were graded this strict? Anyway, when you twirl this coin, you see a freshly made sheet of glass with deep gold color. Miss Liberty and every detail are needle sharp in strike and have an ultra thick frosting. The eye appeal is insanely great!
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. $20 1910 NGC PR66+ CAC - When we first saw this coin our jaws dropped and locked. We still can't close them! This coin is not only SUPER HIGH END but is out of this world! WOW!
This is another very nice coin that depends on a good crossover from the NGC holder.
Description: Insane-yes insane Roman finish surfaces blaze from all over. These are not semi Roman finish, these are knife sharp and stand out almost 3-D like Roman finish surfaces. In fact, this coin looks like a Modern made medal more than a 1910 Proof! The luster and flash are virtually blinding. There is not a single flaw visible even using the strongest glass. Both sides are an electric yellow gold color. There are NO spots or discolorations. Miss Liberty and every detail are so fully struck you do not need a glass to see fine details like her toes. We must say again, the eye appeal is intensely jaw dropping!
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. Upgrades
For the last spot, I will just a mention some of the upgrades available. This Legend Regency auction is full of upgrades, finest specimens known, and even a few POP 1/0 specimens. This provides several opportunities for JB and DLH to pick and choose from the numerous of upgrades. For example, there are several upgradable St. Gaudens Double Eagles and Barber Half Dollars. I will show you best of each. There are plenty more.
$20 1909-D PCGS MS67 CAC - Ex. ELIASBERG/DUCKOR/A&A - Most likely the FINEST 1909-D in existence! (Estimate: 275,000.00 - 325,000.00 USD)
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. 50C 1896-O PCGS MS67 CAC FROM THE FORMULA 1 COLLECTION.EX ELIASBERG- STELLAR - Sole FINEST KNOWN 1896-O half dollar that exists (Estimate: 90,000.00 - 100,000.00 USD)
The 1841 PR-65 is V-8, ex-Gardner.
Here is a minimally researched 1841 proof half dime roster:
1. V-1 PR-65 Pittman/Kaufman, sold in 2008-1, 2014-2
2. V-1 PR-64 Eliasberg, sold in 2005-3
3. V-8 PR-65 Gardner, sold in 2014-10, 2016-2.
4. V-8 PR-63 cam, 2014-6
Note: V-8u is my unpublished unofficial designation.
The obverse date position is different from V-1, and the reverse is different as well.
@yosclimber said:
The 1841 PR-65 is V-8, ex-Gardner.
Here is a minimally researched 1841 proof half dime roster:
1. V-1 PR-65 Pittman/Kaufman, sold in 2008-1, 2014-2
V-8 PR-65 Gardner, sold in 2014-10, 2016-2.
Note: V-8u is my unpublished unofficial designation.
The obverse date position is different from V-1, and the reverse is different as well.
Very cool research Clint. If I am understanding this correctly, the two top pop PR65s are a different variety. Very interesting..
In this week’s update, we are comparing a grouping of Silver Dollars from 1794 to 1921. This will finish up the non-gold portion of the challenge. By not looking ahead, I really didn’t know what to expect from the challenge. I guess it is not surprising the challenge has been very competitive. Both the Eliasberg and Hansen Collections are amazing. Hansen holds on to his slight lead overall as we enter the gold portion of the challenge next week.
The first comparison is the 1794. Last week, Eliasberg had a very nice MS61 half dollar. This week, his estimated 1794 XF40 Silver Dollar specimen is less impressive. Hansen with his AU58+ takes the lead with the first coin. Eliasberg has an impressive PR64 1836 Gobrecht Dollar that is a couple ticks better that Hansen’s PR62. The four-coin 1851-52 Silver Dollars go to Hansen with his double GEM POP 1/0 specimens. He continues with an 1870-CC MS64 POP 1/0. Eliasberg makes a comeback with winning both the 1889-CC and 1893-CC. His 1889-CC is the famous MS66PL that sold in 1997 for $462,000 (now is in a PCGS MS68 holder (PCGS POP 1/0) -Finest Known) . I called the 1895 Proof as tie. Hansen wins challenge with the 1921 Peace Dollar in a convincing way.
Again this week, the challenge was very competitive. Hansen won 4-3-1 with the last coin. Hansen extends his lead to a 5 coin lead. He will take this lead into the gold portion of the challenge.
Silver Dollar Challenge
1794 Silver Dollar: First U.S. silver dollar; very rare low mintage issue.
Hansen Coin: 1794 Flowing Hair Silver Dollar PCGS AU58+ CAC (PCGS POP 1/6)
Eliasberg Coin: 1794 Flowing Hair Silver Dollar Est. XF40 (POP 11/19)
1836 Gobrecht Dollar: Popular short-lived design, attractive design.
Hansen Coin: 1836 Gobrecht Dollar Proof PCGS PR62 (PCGS POP 45/49)
Eliasberg Coin: 1836 Gobrecht Dollar Proof Est. PR64 (POP 67/27)
1851-52 Silver Dollars: Very rare issues that exist both as originals and restrikes.
Hansen Coin: 1851 Liberty Seated Dollar PCGS MS65 (PCGS POP 1/0) Finest Known
Hansen Coin: 1852 Liberty Seated Dollar PCGS MS65 (PCGS POP 1/0) Finest Known
Eliasberg Coin: 1851 Liberty Seated Dollar Assume MS60 (POP 0/20)
Eliasberg Coin: 1852 Liberty Seated Dollar Assume MS63 (POP 2/4)
1870-CC Silver Dollar: First coin struck at the popular Carson City mint.
Hansen Coin: 1870-CC Liberty Seated Dollar PCGS MS64 (PCGS POP 1/0) Finest Known
Eliasberg Coin: 1870-CC Liberty Seated Dollar PCGS MS62 (PCGS POP 8/8)
1889-CC Silver Dollar: Rarest Carson City Morgan dollar.
Hansen Coin: 1889-CC Morgan Dollar PCGS MS64+DM (PCGS POP 2/2)
Eliasberg Coin: 1889-CC Morgan Dollar PCGS MS68 (PCGS POP 1/0) Finest Known
1893-S Silver Dollar: Rarest Morgan dollar.
Hansen Coin: 1893-S Morgan Dollar PCGS AU55 (PCGS POP 42/54)
Eliasberg Coin: 1893-S Morgan Dollar Est. MS65 CAC (POP 5/1)
1895 Silver Dollar: Popular proof-only issue.
Hansen Coin: 1895 Morgan Proof Dollar PCGS PR67DC (PCGS POP 7/8)
Eliasberg Coin: : 1895 Morgan Proof Dollar Est PR67 (PCGS POP 7/8)
1921 Peace Dollar: First year of issue; one year type with High Relief design.
Hansen Coin: 1921 Peace Dollar PCGS MS66 (PCGS POP 182/9)
Eliasberg Coin: 1921 Peace Dollar Est. MS62
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. Eliasberg’s 1836 Gobrecht Dollar Proof Est. PR64 (PCGS POP 67/27) No Picture Available
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. Hansen’s 1851 Liberty Seated Dollar PCGS MS65 (PCGS POP 1/0) -Finest Known
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. Hansen’s 1852 Liberty Seated Dollar PCGS MS65 (PCGS POP 1/0) -Finest Known
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. Hansen’s 1870-CC Liberty Seated Dollar PCGS MS64 (PCGS POP 1/0) -Finest Known
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. Eliasberg’s 1889-CC Morgan Dollar PCGS MS68 (PCGS POP 1/0) -Finest Known
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. Eliasberg's 1893-S Morgan Dollar Est. MS65DM (POP 5/1)
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. TIE- Hansen’s 1895 Morgan Proof Dollar PCGS PR67DC (PCGS POP 7/8)
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. TIE-Eliasberg's 1895 Morgan Proof Dollar Est PR67 (PCGS POP 7/8) No Picture Available
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. Hansen's 1921 Peace Dollar PCGS MS66 (PCGS POP 182/9)
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. Next Gold Dollars:
1855-C Gold Dollars: One year type coins; popular Type Two issues.
1855-D Gold Dollars: One year type coins; popular Type Two issues.
1861-D Gold Dollar: Only coin that was unquestionably struck by the Confederacy.
I'm sure most of us know what you mean @Currin but for the grades on the dollars. Most should be MS-grades but you put PR for most of them in your last post.
@Ablinky said:
I'm sure most of us know what you mean @Currin but for the grades on the dollars. Most should be MS-grades but you put PR for most of them in your last post.
Thanks for the heads up. Very sloppy work today. I think I have everything fixed.
Legend is still revealing winning bidders number (unless they were a floor bidder). Bidder No. 8404 (internet) as I recall was successful on many high end silver, but did not seem to go after the high end gold proofs as I recall. I assumed that the Hansen Collection was #8404, but that might also have been Legend at the direction of their consignor........ BTW 8404 is from my memory and may not be accurate.
@OldIndianNutKase said:
Legend is still revealing winning bidders number (unless they were a floor bidder). Bidder No. 8404 (internet) as I recall was successful on many high end silver, but did not seem to go after the high end gold proofs as I recall. I assumed that the Hansen Collection was #8404, but that might also have been Legend at the direction of their consignor........ BTW 8404 is from my memory and may not be accurate.
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I think you are correct. Hansen added updates overnight. The majority of the coins are silver and strong in the half dollars. I seems that he agree with others that the gold was overpriced.
this is a question for John Brush---the Hansen collection has a huge amount of amazing proof gold. Many of these coins show no auction records for 10-20 years. Did Hansen buy a few large proof gold collections or has he picked them off one or two at a time? These trade so infrequently it is amazing that he has put together what he has.
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times…..
For high-end gold, the Legend Regency sale was the worst of times. There were a couple high-end gold proofs that I thought Hansen would hit, they were passed. I thought he would be interested in the Eliasberg 1909-D Double Eagle. This coin sold for the auction record of $329,000, but many of the other high-end gold coins did not. Was the pricing too high? Not sure.
For Half Dollars, it was the best of times. DLH scored big on the both Barber and Walking Liberty Half Dollars. He purchased nine high-end Barbers and seven high-end WLs. Let’s look at the best coin for each series.
1896-O Barber Half Dollar PCGS MS67 CAC
This was the cream of the crop for the half dollars in the sale. The Hansen Collection of CS Barber Half Dollars reached All-Time Finest status around late July of 2018. Thanks much to the Perfection purchase. Presently, the competition in this series has fallen apart. The only two current sets in the All-Time Top 8 belong to the Hansen Collection. DLH is the only big fish in the pond at this time. I don’t think the top set can be reached, but that has not slowed down the purchasing of the finest Barbers Half Dollars when available. I think I remember this set being one of his favorites. I plan to do a deep dive later this week.
Among the 74 Barber Half Dollar issues, the 1896-O has long been prized as one of the rarest and most elusive issues. Look over the great auction sales of the past 50 years or so, and I think you will be surprised how seldom the 1896-O has been offered in Gem condition. Such high priced rarities as 1892-S, 1893-S and 1895 Morgan Dollars, and 1921-S Half Dollars have all appeared with far greater regularity in Gem condition than have not only this Barber Half Dollar issue but many of the other issues in this series as well. (David Akers)
In Legend description, this was written: Legend Rare Coin Auctions is honored to offer the sole FINEST KNOWN 1896-O half dollar that exists. While there were 924,000 halves struck, precious few were saved at the time of issue, and this is a very rare date in any Mint State grade. This pristine example was purchased directly from the New Orleans mint by J.M. Clapp in August 1896. Louis Eliasberg lovingly cared for this SUPERB GEM from 1942 when he bought the Clapp Estate. This magnificent SUPERB GEM was described in in the April 1997 auction of the Eliasberg Collection, in part as: "A superb gem example of one of the most highly prized issues of the series, a piece which ranks among the finest we have ever seen, and could probably just as easily be called full MS-66 or even higher. Certainly the connoisseur will want to cast hesitation aside when competing for this piece, secure in the knowledge that the coin is truly world class."
Highly lustrous surfaces have a pearlescent-satiny sheen on that glows on virtually pristine surfaces. A strong glass cannot find any traces of contact any where on the ultra clean fields and devices. Every detail is fully delineated from a crisp, exacting blow from the dies. A pale, clear gold hue is dusted in the centers, gradually deepening to an amber-gold that blends with a flashy electric blue at the extreme periphery. The eye appeal is simply stunning--this cataloger has been mesmerized by the amazing originality and superb quality. The 1896-O half is probably the rarest date in the series to find in Mint State. This example has long been considered one of the finest known, and the PCGS Population lists this stunning coin alone at the very apex of known specimens.
This is a stunning specimen and has found a good home in the Hansen Collection. The coin realized $123,375. Legend estimated the coin would bring $90,000 - $100,000. So, Hansen was willing to go 25% above the estimate, maybe higher. This coin was the second highest coin realized in the Legend Regency 30 Auction. Only coin realized more was the Eliasberg 1909-D Double Eagle.
1896-O Barber Half Dollar MS67 CAC PCGS Coin #6475 / PCGS Serial #50183259 / POP 1/0 PCGS Price Guide: $100,000
John M. Clapp Collection, obtained directly from the New Orleans Mint in 8/1896 - John H. Clapp Collection, sold intact in 1942 - Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection - Bowers and Merena 4/1997:2077, $44,000 - Stellar Collection - Greensboro Collection - Heritage 8/2015:4075, $88,125; FORMULA 1 COLLECTION- Legend Regency 30, 1/2019 – Hansen Collection, $123,375
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. 1920-S Walking Liberty Half Dollar PCGS MS66+ CAC
For Half Dollars, 1920-S Walking Liberty Half Dollar specimen was second in the sale only to the 1896-O Barber Half Dollar. For the Walking Liberty Set, there is a different story to tell for The Hansen Collection. The biggist fish in this pond is Forsythe, but not the only one. There are two other large fish, Bauer and Julie. With this strong group, prior to this sale, Hansen had been feeding on crumbs at the bottom of the pond. This coin is his first and only PCGS POP 1/0 in the series. Not only was he able to obtain the 1920-S, but purchased six other nice specimens, and all but one are tied for the PCGS finest. DLH has not posted updates to this series yet. I think he will move closer to the top, but I am not sure he will be swimming with the big fish yet. We should know soon.
The 1920-S Walking Liberty half dollar is relatively available in the lower circulated grades (G to VG), but is scarce in higher circulated grades. Like all early Walkers, this issue is rare in mint state as very few examples were saved at the time of issue. It is comparable in rarity in both mint state and Gem condition to the 1920-D, 1923-S, and 1928-S...rare coins all. While not as rare in choice condition as the 1921-S and 1919-D and a few others, the 1920-S is definitely a key date in the series in top condition. Many of the surviving Gem examples come from a 40 piece mini-hoard found by half dollar specialist James Bennett Pryor and sold to dealer Jim Halperin in the late 1970s. (David Hall)
In Legend description, this was written: We can tell you the buyer of this coin the the Duckor sale was not alone in thinking it was a MS67. PCGS saw one teenie hidden tick and denied that lofty grade. Unquestionably, this piece still ranks among the finest survivors. Remarkable fully satiny surfaces are exceedingly clean and smooth. The only tick may not even be a tick-it could be a die/planchet issue. Regardless, it is a hidden tick. A booming yet glowing luster beams from all over. The color is an original satiny white with some faint hints of gold on the obverse. Miss Liberty and every detail are incredibly struck (you do not have to use a strong glass to see the split in the thumb). The eye appeal will bring any Walker collector to their knees as it is that incredible!
I think this is a TOP 5 Walking Liberty Specimen, but near the bottom. I am not a Walking Liberty specialist, so someone help me out here. It appear to me the TOP 3 specimens are the PCGS POP1 in the Forsythe Collection (1917-S Obv., 1919-D, and 1921-S). This would make Hansen’s 1920-S about 4 or 5 in overall Walkers.
The coin realized $96,937.50, just shy of $100K. Legend estimated the coin would bring $80,000 - $95,000. This coin was the fourth highest coin realized in the Legend Regency 30 Auction.
1920-S Walking Liberty Half Dollar MS66+ CAC PCGS Coin #6582 / PCGS Serial #35138257 / POP 1/0 PCGS Price Guide: $85,000
Legend Numismatics, sold privately in 9/2011 - Eugene H. Gardner Collection, Part II - Heritage 10/2014:98579, $44,062.50 - Steven L. Duckor Collection - Heritage 1/2018:4879, $60,000; Legend Regency 30, 1/2019 – Hansen Collection, $96,937.50
You would be surprised how many people don't realize the 96-O Barber Half is the real key date in MS. It is also the lowest POP coin in MS and MS+ AU combined!
I made an error in my reporting yesterday. I said the 1920-S was the first and only POP 1 WL in the collection. Not true. There is a 1937-D that was added back in mid -December. For some reason that is unknown, this coin has not been added to Hansen’s WALKING LIBERTY HALF DOLLARS BASIC SET, CIRCULATION STRIKES (1916-1947). If there are more coins that have not been added, then this set may be a little better than I described yesterday.
@Currin said: 1920-S Walking Liberty Half Dollar PCGS MS66+ CAC
For Half Dollars, 1920-S Walking Liberty Half Dollar specimen was second in the sale only to the 1896-O Barber Half Dollar. For the Walking Liberty Set, there is a different story to tell for The Hansen Collection. The biggist fish in this pond is Forsythe, but not the only one. There are two other large fish, Bauer and Julie. With this strong group, prior to this sale, Hansen had been feeding on crumbs at the bottom of the pond. This coin is his first and only PCGS POP 1/0 in the series. Not only was he able to obtain the 1920-S, but purchased six other nice specimens, and all but one are tied for the PCGS finest. DLH has not posted updates to this series yet. I think he will move closer to the top, but I am not sure he will be swimming with the big fish yet. We should know soon.
The 1920-S Walking Liberty half dollar is relatively available in the lower circulated grades (G to VG), but is scarce in higher circulated grades. Like all early Walkers, this issue is rare in mint state as very few examples were saved at the time of issue. It is comparable in rarity in both mint state and Gem condition to the 1920-D, 1923-S, and 1928-S...rare coins all. While not as rare in choice condition as the 1921-S and 1919-D and a few others, the 1920-S is definitely a key date in the series in top condition. Many of the surviving Gem examples come from a 40 piece mini-hoard found by half dollar specialist James Bennett Pryor and sold to dealer Jim Halperin in the late 1970s. (David Hall)
In Legend description, this was written: We can tell you the buyer of this coin the the Duckor sale was not alone in thinking it was a MS67. PCGS saw one teenie hidden tick and denied that lofty grade. Unquestionably, this piece still ranks among the finest survivors. Remarkable fully satiny surfaces are exceedingly clean and smooth. The only tick may not even be a tick-it could be a die/planchet issue. Regardless, it is a hidden tick. A booming yet glowing luster beams from all over. The color is an original satiny white with some faint hints of gold on the obverse. Miss Liberty and every detail are incredibly struck (you do not have to use a strong glass to see the split in the thumb). The eye appeal will bring any Walker collector to their knees as it is that incredible!
I think this is a TOP 5 Walking Liberty Specimen, but near the bottom. I am not a Walking Liberty specialist, so someone help me out here. It appear to me the TOP 3 specimens are the PCGS POP1 in the Forsythe Collection (1917-S Obv., 1919-D, and 1921-S). This would make Hansen’s 1920-S about 4 or 5 in overall Walkers.
The coin realized $96,937.50, just shy of $100K. Legend estimated the coin would bring $80,000 - $95,000. This coin was the fourth highest coin realized in the Legend Regency 30 Auction.
1920-S Walking Liberty Half Dollar MS66+ CAC PCGS Coin #6582 / PCGS Serial #35138257 / POP 1/0 PCGS Price Guide: $85,000
Legend Numismatics, sold privately in 9/2011 - Eugene H. Gardner Collection, Part II - Heritage 10/2014:98579, $44,062.50 - Steven L. Duckor Collection - Heritage 1/2018:4879, $60,000; Legend Regency 30, 1/2019 – Hansen Collection, $96,937.50
1937-D Walking Liberty Half Dollar MS68 PCGS POP 1/0 - Undisputed Finest
If Hansen’s Walking Liberty Half Dollar set someday rises to the top, this will be the first impact coin in that journey. If my eyes are not deceiving me from comparing photographs, the 1937-D MS68 specimen is a recent crossover from only known MS68 NGC coin. The coin was the first (and only) specimen to be certified MS68 by TPG, PCGS or NGG. Another amazing point of interest, the coin has appeared in five Heritage Auctions beginning in 2002. The coin was once in the famous Robert Moreno Collection of Walking Liberty Half Dollars. For nearly a couple decades now, this coin has been referenced as “the significant example” for this date and mint mark. From a 2005 Heritage Auction when the coin was sold for Moreno: Many specialists consider this issue to be one of the toughest dates in the entire 1934 to 1947 span, despite higher values for a few other issues. Considering all grades, only the 1934-S, 1935-D, and 1935-S issues have lower total NGC populations. For the connoisseur, it is important to realize that only 94 Walking Liberty Half Dollars have been graded finer than MS67 by NGC. This remarkable coin is truly a wonder to behold. Both sides are beautifully toned in mottled powder-blue and champagne-apricot shades that are partially ringed by golden-green peripheral shadings. The strike is well above average for this often poorly impressed D-mint issue, and one would be hard pressed to find a noteworthy distraction even if they were to take a loupe to the surfaces. Satiny in sheen, and the only MS68 example known to both NGC and PCGS (6/05).
To crossover from NGC to PCGS does not happen routinely. The specimen is not recognized by name in the Coin Facts Pedigree and History, so when the data is updated, this coin will go to the top, jumping 5 MS67+. The coin last sold in the Heritage 2018 ANA WFOM Signature Auction in Philadelphia. The coin was characterized as “Colorful MS68, Amazing Jewel-Like Superb Gem, The Finest Known”. The coin description was similar to 2005, and referenced: this is the only MS68 example known at either NGC or PCGS. There is still only one, but now it is in PCGS holder. The coin realized $14,400 in this auction a few months ago. Now my question, should the name of the company on the holder make any difference in the value of the coin? Let’s see.
This coin was recent offered for sale by Pinnacle Rarities. The coin headlined as: “1937-D 50C Walking Liberty Half Dollar PCGS MS68”. Only a short description was given: The uncontested finest example graded for the issue by PCGS. The flawless surfaces exhibit thick, cartwheel luster beneath a breathtaking kaleidoscope of colors. Liberty's skirt lines and head details are nearly 100% full, while her hand and the eagle's leg display only minute softness. We love the Walking Liberty design, and when you find one with color like this they are a true delight to behold. A spectacular Walker deserving of inclusion in a world class Walking Liberty collection. The coin was listed for $74,500. If the listed price was achieved, then in just a few months, the coin increased in value by 500%. Let me conclude by saying this, I am using pictures for tracing the provenance. I feel pretty confident the two coins are the same, but I could be wrong.
Coin Facts price a PCGS MS68 at $77,500. So, the asking price by Pinnacle Rarities seems fair. It must have been, because JB has stated if the pricing is not fair, they will walk away. The coin does not appear to have a CAC, but I think it will at some point. This new upgrade would only be a start, if Hansen desires to be player in this series.
In comparing to Eliasberg’s specimen, his registry set describes his specimen as estimated grade MS64. The Eliasberg coin was sold by Bowers & Merena April 1997 as part of a large lot #2163.
1937-D Walking Liberty Half Dollar MS68 (PCGS Gold Shield)
PCGS Coin #6602 / PCGS Serial #36186393 / POP 1/0
Ex. New York, NY Signature Sale (Heritage, 7/2002), lot 8612, did not sell; Robert Moreno Collection (Heritage 7/2005), lot 10038, where it realized $18,400; FUN Signature Coin Auction (Heritage 1/2007), lot 1016, where it realized $23,000; Texas Signature Auction (Heritage, 11/2007), lot 1051, where it realized $21,275; ANA WFOM Signature Auction (Heritage, 8/2018), Lot 5159, where it realized $14,400; Hansen Collection purchased from Pinnacle Rarities, asking price $74,500
This is the fourth time that I have provided an update or feature on the Barber Half Dollar CS Series. This has been one of the most active series in the Hansen Collection. Is this because Barber Half Dollars are one of DLH favorite series? Or is this just the right time and opportunity to purchase the Barber Half Dollars? I really don’t know and I guess it could be a little of both. Whatever the reason, The Hansen Barber Half Dollar has exceled. Before the purchase of the Perfection Collection last summer, the Barber Half Dollars Basic Set, Circulation Strikes were in fourth placed. With that purchase, 52 of the 73 coins were upgraded and the set move to second.
From the July 3rd, 2018 Update
With this purchased, the Hansen Collection upgraded 59 of 73 coins according to a Perfection posting. Most if not all were CACs. The upgraded included 15 Top Pop 1/0 PCGS certified coins! Another 17 upgrades are tied with this finest known. With these upgrades, the rating for the set is this 66.66, only 0.6 points behind Duckor. Therefore, the Hansen Barber Half Dollars Basic Set is in good position to overtake Duckor in the near future for All-Time Finest Set. According to Perfection thoughts… he will catch Duckor by this time next year.
These upgrades are beautiful and some of the finest coins known for this denomination. There are so many that I will limit to just 5 of my favorite coins.
1908-O 50C MS68 CAC PCGS POP 1/0
1892-S 50C MS67+ CAC PCGS POP 1/0
1899 50C MS67+ CAC PCGS POP 1/0
1900-S 50C MS67+ CAC PCGS 1/0
1909-O 50C MS67+ CAC PCGS 1/0
Note: There are another 10 PCGS TOP POP 1/0 added from the Perfection Collection
From the July 30th, 2018 Update
Over the weekend, the collection has added and upgraded about 85 coins. These coins were circulating strikes, proofs and even a few major varieties. There are several coins that can be discussed, but I will focus on the upgrades to the Barber Half Dollars Basic Set, Circulation Strikes (1892-1915). There were 9 upgrades that were contributed to this set, five PCGS finest, three tied- PCGS finest (2/0) and one is POP 1/1. These upgrades put the Hansen over the top for the all-time finest PCGS Barber Half Dollars Basic Set. The previous All-Time Finest, Hall of Fame set, Dr. and Mrs. Steven L. Duckor Collection with a weighted grade of 66.78. The Hansen set is now a couple ticks better at 66.81. The total PCGS grade value for the nine Barber half dollar upgrades: $329,500. I am sure Perfection can help with any holes and incorrect information.
1905-S 50C MS67+ CAC Cert 05976619 POP 1/0 - Replaces 1905-S MS64+ POP 1/12 - PCGS Value $32,500
Provenance: Unknown
1906-O 50C MS67+ CAC Cert 16398745 POP 1/0 – Replaces 1906-O MS66 POP 8/4 - PCGS Value $54,500
Provenance: New Orleans Mint - S. Benton Emery - Walter P. Nichols - Bowers & Merena 11/1984:835 - Dr. Thaine B. Price - David Akers 5/1998:168 - Dr. Steven Duckor - Heritage 8/2010:3217, $46,000 - “Perfection” Collection (PCGS Set Registry)
1906-S 50C MS67+ CAC Cert 16398746 POP 1/1 – Replaces 1906-S MS66 POP 4/5 - PCGS Value $26,500
Provenance: Ex: Numismatics, Ltd. (2/1976); James Bennett Pryor (Bowers and Merena, 1/1996), lot 300; David Akers (2/15/2006). From The Dr. and Mrs. Steven L. Duckor Barber Half Dollar Collection
1907-D 50C MS67+ CAC Cert 05350268 POP 2/0 – Replaces 1907-D 50C MS66 POP 10/6 - PCGS Value $30,000
Provenance: Ex: FUN Signature (Heritage, 1/2010), lot 2259, which brought $17,250. From The Jim O'Neal Collection
1907-S 50C MS67+ CAC Cert 16432093 POP 1/0 – Replaces 1907-S MS65 POP 8/10 - PCGS Value $35,000
Provenance: Ex: David Akers (12/23/1994). From The Dr. and Mrs. Steven L. Duckor Barber Half Dollar Collection
1909-O 50C MS67+ CAC Cert 19806543 POP 1/0 – Replaces 1909-O MS66 POP 4/1 - PCGS Value $55,000
Provenance: Ex: John C. Hugon Collection (Heritage, 1/2005), lot 4254; Harry Laibstain (1/12/2005). From The Dr. Peter and Janice Shireman Collection.(
1913 50C MS66+ CAC Cert 07601735 POP 2/0 – Replaces 1913 MS66 POP 5/1 - PCGS Value $18,500
Provenance: John C. Hugon Collection
1914 50C MS66+ CAC Cert 25649338 POP 1/0 – Replaces 1914 MS 65 10/4 - PCGS Value $27,500
Provenance: Larry Shepherd, sold privately on 7/22/1998 - Dr. & Mrs. Steven L. Duckor Collection - Heritage 8/2010:3241, $37,375 - Eugene H. Gardner Collection, Part II - Heritage 10/2014:98567, $30,550
From the Aug 11th Update
A few weeks ago Hansen picked up top spot from the previous All-Time Finest, Hall of Fame set, Dr. and Mrs. Steven L. Duckor Collection. With this week’s upgrades, he has added the Major Varieties set to his All-Time Finest list. He still trails Bruce Scher’s Barber Half Proof All Time Finest set. Therefore, the collection still has a little ways to go for a Barber Half Dollar sweep.
DLH/JB made two very nice Barber Half Dollar upgrades. The total value PCGS places on these two upgrades are approx. $125,000. This should give you a sense of value for the upgrades that is going into this collection. Both the new purchases have ties to Dr. Peter and Janice Shireman Collection. One of the two has a PCGS POP 1/0 with the CAC sticker.
1892-O 50C Micro O MS65 CAC Cert 25200593 POP2/2
This Shireman specimen last appeared in Heritage Auctions 2016 January Fun where it sold for $85,188. PCGS grade value for this coin is $95,000. The coin is one of five known MS65 or better specimens. There are two finer. The lone PCGS MS67 and the finest PCGS MS68 Eliasberg-Friend Specimen are the two finer specimens by grade. The coin was described this way: This coin is satiny and lustrous with warm golden toning and unabraded surfaces. The stars and Liberty portrait are sharpLike other known Uncirculated Micro O halves, the present piece is moderately prooflike. This suggests that few pieces were struck, since any later strikes would instead display cartwheel luster. The obverse features light pearl-gray and golden-brown patina. The reverse has similar but deeper toning. Careful study beneath a loupe fails to reveal relevant marks, although the strike is slightly soft in the vertical area between the right shield corner and the fletchings. Evidence of strike doubling appears at the lower reverse.
Provenance: Superior 1/1989:4524 - Superior 10/1989:3770, $20,900 - Heritage 5/2008:743, $92,000 - Harry Laibstain, sold privately on 5/28/2008 - Dr. & Mrs. Peter K. Shireman Collection - Heritage 1/2016:5382, $85,188.
This adds another PSGS POP1/0 to set that previously contained 18. This coin also has Shireman in the pedigree, along with the Hugon Collection. It is the finest certified specimen for 1909 Half Dollar San Francisco coins. This specimen last appeared in Heritage Auctions 2016 January Fun where it sold for $29,375. PCGS grade value for this coin is $29,500. The coin was described this way: Sparkling mint luster is seen over each side, and is evident even through the light overlay of champagne-golden toning that turns to mottled gold at the margins. The only mark that could be used as a pedigree identifier in the future is a tiny abrasion located on Liberty's cheek approximately 2 mm. behind the nostril. An incredible coin that should be examined by anyone interested in the Barber half dollar series.
Provenance: Heritage 1/1998:6947, $12,075 - John C. Hugon Collection - Heritage 1/2005:4254 - Harry Laibstain, sold privately on 1/12/2005 - Dr. Peter & Janice Shireman Collection - Heritage 1/2016:5417, $29,375.
1909-S 50C MS67+ CGS POP 1/0 - Shireman-Hugon Specimen
Today – 1/31/2019
I updated you a couple days on the purchase on the 1896-O Barber Half Dollar. Although, this was a $125,000 coin, it was not the only Barber Half Dollar. Including the 1896-O, there were eight other MS67 CAC coins purchased with 4 of them being PCGS POP 1/0. The set now has (23) POP 1/0 (31.5%). There are (32) others that are finest certified by PCGS (43.8%). There are only (18) that are not the finest or tied for finest (24.6%). The total for the Barber Half Dollar purchases, $411,837.50.
Barber Half Dollar Purchases from Legend Regency 30:
1895-S Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 2/0 CAC – realized $85,187.50, Ex: SHIREMAN -DUCKOR
1896-O Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 1/0 CAC – realized $123,375 Ex: ELIASBERG- STELLAR
1903-O Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 1/0 CAC – realized $47,000 Ex: DUCKOR-PRICE.
1906-D Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 1/0 CAC – realized $49,937.50 Ex: GARDNER
1908-S Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 2/0 CAC – realized $18,212.50 Ex: PRICE -GARDNER
1911-D Barber Half Dollar MS67POP 3/0 CAC – realized $25,850 Ex: ELIASBERG
1912-D Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 1/0 CAC – realized $18,212.50 Ex: FORMULA 1 COLLECTION
1913-S Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 1/0 CAC – realized $28,200 Ex: DUCKER - FRIEND
1915-S Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 2/0 CAC – realized $15,862.50 Ex: SHIREMAN
Is this series complete? This is an interesting question. There are 13 PCGS POP 1/0 coins remaining out there somewhere. They are not shown in any registry sets. Are they in the same holding or scattered? Only time will tell if this set will get anymore upgrades.
Comments
In particular, any improvements taken over this method?
This is my observation. Unless Hansen is building territorials or patterns sets outside the registery, I don’t beleive them to be a focus, presently. The three places that see the greatest activity is:
1- The Eliasberg Quest with 23 to go.
2- The Major Varieties , CS, about 60 to go.
3- A complete proof set, about 350 to go.
I think he will eventually build a Top 5 modern commememative set to go along with his completed pre- 1964.
I think at some point, he will add all the bullion and eagles, he has most of the buffalos.
This will leave territorials, patterns, and colonial. I would not doubt they are in the long term plan, but not sure where or the order.
The last thing I would say is that I beleive we will continue to see a lot of upgrades. I not sure if he is planning to stop until every coin is a condition census top 5.
Also, it appear he is showing some interest in minor Varities and Dies. I am not sure of the level of interest.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
Proof Trade Dollar Feature (updated form 7/1/2018)
I first discussed this Proof Trade Dollars in a feature last summer. With the recent purchased of the finest known proof 1885 at the FUN show, the Trade Dollars, Proof (1873-1885) set is now completed.
The Proof Trade Dollar set is describe by PCGS this way: Assembling a complete set of proof trade dollars is even more difficult than the mint state collection. The true stoppers are the ultra-rare 1884 and 1885. Of the ten 1884 specimens that were minted, PCGS had graded nine, with the highest grade being a magnificent PR67. There are only five 1885 proofs, with the most recent sale being the Eliasberg specimen which realized nearly $1 million when auctioned by Bowers and Merena.
In a press release the past week by PCGS, the set was describe: With a grade point average of 68.736, the D.L. Hansen Trade Dollar Proof Set is now 100 percent complete and ranked as the number one proof Trade Dollar collection, 1873 to 1885. The listing for the entire set can be viewed in the newly redesigned PCGS Set Registry®. https://www.pcgs.com/news/finest-known-1885-trade-dollar-crossover
The total number of coins needed to complete this set is only 13. As small as the set is, only seven completed sets are listed in the all-time PCGS registry. Previously before Hansen Collection update, the finest was a current set owned by Simpson, set rating of 66.65 (due to Hansen’s upgrade, the rating dropped to 65.96, and now in fourth place). The Hall of Fame Legend Collection with the rating of 66.56 remains in second. The third place is the Louis Eliasberg's proof trade dollar set described with impeccable quality with rating of 66.03. The remaining three sets drops significantly in quality (Waldo, Norweb, and Carter).
I will describe the 13 piece Hansen Proof Trade Dollars in three parts. First is “The Pair”. This is the 1884 & 1885 coins. I hope you find the brief discussion interesting. I am not sure how the 1884 was obtained, but we know Hansen purchased the 1885 at the Heritage 2019 FUN US Coins Signature Auction in Orlando last week. The 1885 was not the only Proof Trade Dollar that he purchased. The other 3 coins will be briefly discussed in part two. The last part will be a repeat from the summer discussion on the purchase of coins from the Perfection Collection. This key purchase laid the foundation for the set greatness. Let’s begin.
The Hansen Pair
This appears to be the first time in history that the finest known Proof Trade Dollar 1884 and 1885 has paired up in a World Class Proof Trade Dollar set. The “Eliasberg Pair” comprises the finest 1885 and a third finest 1884. The Eliasberg Pair was featured in the Famous Eliasberg Proof Trade Dollar set as well as most recent HOF Legend set. A new era begins with the pairing of the two finest coins, but it comes with controversy. There are many in the community that is saddened with the splitting of the two Eliasberg coins. It may be a break in history, but it also can viewed positively as a new beginning. This could be especially true if the Hansen Collection is someday globally recognized as the Greatest Collection of US Coins of All-Times. This new pair would be the center pieces of the Proof Trade Dollar portion of that great collection.
1884 Proof Trade Dollar, PR67 CAC
PCGS Coin #7064 / PCGS Serial #05781400 / POP 1/0
William Idler - Capt. John W. Haseltine and Steven K. Nagy - William Forrester Dunham, who sold his collection intact to B. Max Mehl in 1939 - William Forrester Dunham Collection - B. Max Mehl 6/1941:1150:$315 - Floyd Starr Collection - Stack's 10/1992:844, $176,000 - Jay Parrino ("The Mint") - Goldbergs 10/2000:1784, bought back at $510,600 - Jay Parrino - Heritage 11/2003:8312, not sold - Jay Parrino, DL Hansen Collection by private transaction
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1885 Proof Trade Dollar, PR65+ CA
PCGS Coin #87065 / PCGS Serial #36982251 / POP 1/0
Ex: Superintendent of the Philadelphia Mint Archibald Loudon Snowden in 1885; possibly William Woodin in 1910; William Cutler Atwater; Atwater Collection (B. Max Mehl, 6/1946), lot 378; Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr.; Eliasberg Collection, Part II (Bowers and Merena, 4/1997), lot 2354, realized $907,500; Jay Parrino; Bruce Morelan via Legend for $1.5 million in 1999; Bruce Morelan traded this coin and the Eliasberg 1884 Trade dollar in 2006-2007 to John Albanese; both the 1884 and 1885 Trade dollars were then sold to Heritage by John Albanese; the 1885 was sold privately by Heritage Auctions for $3.3 million in January 2006; (Heritage 2019 January 9 - 14 FUN US Coins Signature Auction - Orlando #1291: Lot 4553, realized $3,960,000), DL Hansen Collection
Three other FUN Proof Trade Dollars
In addition, the spectacular 1885, Hansen purchased three other replacement coins. The first specimen is the 1875 PR67. This was described as 1875 Trade Dollar, PR67 / Type One Reverse/ One of the Finest-Known Examples. The coin had a nice description: This Superb Gem is shows the Type One Reverse with a berry beneath the eagle's claw. The survival rate for this issue seems high, with several hundred specimens graded at each of the major services (including possible resubmissions). Superb Gems are rare, however, as just two such pieces have been seen at PCGS, and only six coins have been rated at PR67 by NGC, with none finer at either company (11/18). This coin is fully struck with superior, seemingly flawless preservation and rich hues of variegated patina that adorn both sides. Included are shades of bright-green, deep-violet, charcoal-red, and beige. The only pedigree given was the coin was from The Greensboro Collection. But the coin did sale in the Heritage 2017 FUN US Coins Signature Auction where the coin realized $30,550. In that auction, the coin was pedigreed to The Sounder Collection. The coin also appeared in the Heritage 2014 CSNS US Coin Signature Auction where it realized $38,187.50. Hansen paid $38,500, so may not have been a bad deal.
1875 Proof Trade Dollar, PR67
PCGS Coin #7055 / PCGS Serial #25343353 / POP 2/0
Ex: (Heritage 2014 CSNS US Coin Signature Auction where it realized $38,187.50); The Sounder Collection (Heritage 2017 FUN US Coins Signature Auction where the coin realized $30,550); The Greensboro Collection (2019 FUN US Coins Signature Auction where the coin realized $38,500), DL Hansen Collection
The next specimen is the 1879 PR68CA. This was described as 1879 T$1 PR68 Cameo NGC PR68 Cameo / Incredible Quality, Among the Finest Known. The coin description: here is a spectacular, untoned example that showcases a depth of contrast rarely seen on any Trade dollar issue. The design elements are fully struck, and fields are so well-mirrored that the depth of reflectivity is seemingly infinite. An exceptional proof type coin of this important commercial trade coin. This coin is also from The Greensboro Collection. Hansen paid $39,600.
1877 Proof Trade Dollar, PR68CA
PCGS Coin # 87059 / PCGS Serial # 36467556 / POP 3/0
Ex: (Ex: Dallas Signature (Heritage, 10/2006), lot 2327, which realized $63,250. The Greensboro Collection (2019 FUN US Coins Signature Auction where the coin realized $39,600), DL Hansen Collection
The last specimen is PCGS POP 1/0. The 1882 specimen replaces the second finest 1882 known that is in Hansen’s Collection. This coin was described as 1882 Trade Dollar, PR68 Cameo / Important Proof-Only Issue /Finest Certified at PCGS. The coin description: The 1882 Trade dollar was not a well-struck issue, and many examples seen show a soft strike on Liberty's head and the upper stars. This delightful specimen shows full radials on all stars and just the slightest softness on Liberty's hair. The other design elements are sharply detailed throughout. The frosty devices contrast boldly with the deeply mirrored fields, producing a stunning cameo effect. The impeccably preserved surfaces are enhanced by shades of low-intensity pale gold toning, with a few hints of electric-blue at the peripheries. Overall visual appeal is terrific. The Registry Set enthusiast will find no suitable replacement for this spectacular coin. This coin is also from The Greensboro Collection. Hansen paid $144,000.
1882 Proof Trade Dollar, PR68CA CAC
PCGS Coin # 87062 / PCGS Serial # 06572944 / POP 1/0
Ex: Ex: The Sounder Collection (Heritage 2017 FUN US Coins Signature Auction where the coin realized $94,000); The Greensboro Collection (2019 FUN US Coins Signature Auction where the coin realized $144,000), DL Hansen Collection
Summer 2018 Purchase of the Perfection Proof Trade Dollar set
The Hansen collection upgraded 10 of the 13 coins that increase the set GPA w/ top set bonus to 68.62. The upgraded included 4 top Pop 1/0 PCGS certified coins. At the time, I said that the set will need to add the 1885 proof to reach the finest of all-time position. I also said, the finest graded specimen (PR63+ CA) is in the Simpson current finest set, so that one may be off the market. The Eliasberg specimen may be out the somewhere. This specimen is not certified (by PCGS), but it is estimated having a grade of MS65CA. The acquisition this coin would elevate the set to undisputable finest of all-time. Little did I know that it would show up a few months later in the last week’s FUN Auction.
These upgrades are from the Perfection Collection and are beautiful and some of the finest coins known for this denomination. There were a few others from the Perfection purchase, but this is a grouping of the finest.
1874 T$1 PR66+ PCGS POP 2/0
1876 T$1, CA PR67CA PCGS POP 1/0
1880 T$1 Trade, CA PR67+ CA PCGS POP 1/0
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1881 T$1 Trade, CA PR67+ CA PCGS POP 1/0
1882 T$1 Trade, DC PR67+ DC PCGS POP 1/1 NOTE: This coin was replaced by a POP 1/0 FUN purchase
1883 T$1 Trade, CA PR67+ CA PCGS POP 1/0
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
That price for the 1882 is crazy. I’d like to thank him for restoring my sanity from buying the Knoxville 1883
irrespective of price, do you feel his 1882 is the finest for that date? thanks
I'm rarely awestruck, but seeing these laid out like this Currin is really wonderful. Thanks for all your efforts in making this a terrific and historic blog. I just wonder what its going to be like 5 and 10 years from now if this keeps up. I really get tachycardia from such modern coins, being that I only collect pre-1840, but perhaps I should open thinking one of these days. Bruce did you think this is now the finest set ever assembled in its totality at this point? Even the duplicates are now becoming of such high quality.
No idea. The nuances of ranking common date trade dollars (combining non cam, cam, deep cam and killer color) are very complex. Probably comes down to personal preference
thanks
The 1879 T$1 PR68 CAM is absolutely wicked. WOW!
Probably. It’s really hard to compare grades from different eras - PCGS proof grades are probably a point higher now from when I built my set. With that said, Eliasberg’s common date proofs weren’t that outstanding. Simpson’s are, but his rarities are a bit lacking. I had a bit of both but not uber graded common dates.
And trade dollars are more than just the proofs. My old set in unc blows away anything ever put together. The new owner intends on doing a proof set as well.
Gazes
I was going to discuss depth of the Proof Trade Dollars over the weekend, so this is a preview. If you have doubts that the 1882 PR68CA PCGS POP 1/0 is the finest, then maybe his 1882 PR67DC PCGS POP 1/1 will be more satisfying. If you still have doubts, then let’s go with his 1882 PCGS PR67+ CA POP 1/2. Being the Hansen collection have the Top 3 specimens, then I believe he has the field covered.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
I dont disagree
That blast white 1879 is wicked!
In your enthusiasm, you are falling into a trap. Coin grading has changed too much over the past decade to definitively call anything without a long history the finest known. Simpson’s set is spectacular and there are old time coins that are amazing. When you’re splitting hairs between proofs that change two grades over a trivial issue, you have to be careful not to talk in absolutes
Yes Bruce, your circulation strike were amazing. It's going to be tough for BC to improve it. Seeing these coins makes me understand how you became a tradedollarnut despite your normal looking outward appearance. Of course that's one "Bust"nut to another. See you soon I hope.
Gazes.. I think your comments are all true, but also I think the Hansen’s Proof Trade Dollar is a attempt to assemble the finest. There are several objectives that a collector can have in assembling sets. Some collectors like coins that match, some may like color, some like untone, and some want the finest specimens that are available, as it appear to me for this set. You are correct in collecting one of everything, at times you will need to compromise. The Trade Dollar series turned out really well from top to bottom. Not much compromising.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
What I have found to be remarkable is that as time has gone on, it seems that there is less and less compromise and he is trying to get not only every coin but the finest when possible. I know there are exceptions but there are many examples where he could have just bought an avg coin to fill a slot and he has gone out of his way to get the best.
Not only that, but he is purchasing POP 1/0 coins, even when he his the second finest in his collection.
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Hansen Proof Trade Dollar Collection
I hope you have enjoyed Proof Trade Dollar week. Few days ago, we had a real good look at the coin dubbed, “Mr. Big”. Then, we did a deep dive into the 13-piece ATF Trade Dollars, Proof (1873-1885) set. This is small set that we saw is packed full of great specimens. This last posting for Trade Dollar Week will be The Hansen Collection of US Proof Trade Dollars. Presently, there are 36 coins represented the Hansen Collection. These coins are represented in three complete sets, and I found one 4-tier common coin still in the collection. There may be more in the registry, or there could be coins in his inventory that is not in the registry. Bottom line, the Hansen Trade Dollar Collection has 36 coins that are known to the community.
I am predicting this 3-tier collection of Proof Trade Dollars will be award the PCGS HOF this summer. As far as I know, there never has been a collection with three complete sets of 1873-1883, and one of them completed thru 1885. According to auction results and Price Guide information, the total value of the collection is $5,824,600. The depth of the collection is amazing. I will discussion the three sets in the collection, and the 4-coin deep 1882. Let’s start with the 1882.
Hansen’s Four 1882s
The 1882 is considered a common trade dollar. Q. David Bowers describes the date as: For the fifth year in a row, the only trade dollars minted at Philadelphia were Proofs. The mintage figure of 1,097 Proofs was nearly equal to the number (1,100) of silver Proof sets made of other denominations from the dime to the Morgan dollar. Examples are readily available and are very popular due to the overall low mintage figure. Many are flatly struck. Walter H. Breen suggests that this may have been due to a deteriorating hub used to produce the die.
I don’t know of many Proof Trade Dollar collectors that spend much time or money on this date. Hansen has about quarter of a million dollars invested in the common date alone. The amazing Legend set had a PR66 PCGS POP 19/31. The current Simpson collection has a very nice PR67DC PCGS POP 2/3. Eliasburg specimen is estimated at PR64CA PCGS POP 47/141. Please note as TDN and others have pointed out; grades from different eras can be tricky. In keeping things simple, all I have to go on is the present PCGS POP report. As I said before, Hansen has 4 and they the POP 1/0, 1/1, 1/2, and final a POP 8/5. The means the top 3 1882 Proof Trade Dollars are in the Hansen Collection. The only missing 1882 Top 5 PCGS coin is in Simpson’s set. I think this is an example of the deep of the Hansen Collection. (Note: The Trade Dollars are not the only series that he goes several layers deep.) You can find the picture for the PR68 CA PCGS POP 1 /0 in my last update. The PR67+ DC is below. There are no pictures available for the PR67+ CA or PR66 CA.
1882 (in ATF #1 1873-1885 set) PR68 CA PCGS POP 1 /0 (PCGS Value $144,000)
1882 (in ATF #3 1873-1883 set) PR67+ DC PCGS POP 1 /1 (PCGS Value $67,000)
1882 (in ATF #6 1873-1883 set) PR67+ CA PCGS POP 1 /2 (PCGS Value $39,500)
1882 (in misc varieties set) PR66 CA PCGS POP 8/5 (PCGS Value $13,000)
Hansen’s 1882 PR67+ DC / Hansen #2 Coin
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ATF #1 - Trade Dollars, Proof (1873-1885)
We discussed this set in details a couple days ago. It is no question that the theme/goal of this set is the “Finest PCGS Specimens Known”. I think the purchase of the 1882 PR68 at the FUN Auction confirms the goal of this set. The set already had the second finest PCGS certified specimen. There are only 4 certified PCGS coins that can improve the grade of this set. The two known is the 1873 PR66 in the Driftwood set, and the monster 1878 PR69CA in the Simpson set. All the pictures of the amazing Hansen coins were in previous posting. PCGS places the total value of the set at $5,310,000. Truly a HOF set and not much else can be said.
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ATF #3 - Trade Dollars, Proof (1873-1883)
Here is when it gets really interesting. Are the coins in this set duplicates, or do they have a higher status in the collection? PCGS Coin Guide places the value of the coins in this set at $233,000. I have not heard JB or DLH say for sure what the long term goal will be. Why would you keep additional coins or sets? Maybe someone can provide the answer to the community.
There are many themes that collectors use for their sets. Some collectors desire to have the finest known, i.e. POP 1/0. Think we see that in Hansen’s #1 set. Some collectors, as I believe TDN, desire to have the finest that he can find, and that may not be the POP 1/0 coin. There are other collectors like coins that match, some may like colorful coins, some people like untoned; the reasons could be many. I don’t know Hansen intentions for this set, but I did observed a theme (maybe). Now, before you get to excited, the pictures were very limited for the specimens in this set. To me, they look like a few of them are matching. You be the judge.
1875 T$1, CA PR66CA Certification #25666121, PCGS #87055, PCGS POP 3/3
1877 T$1, CA PR66+ CA CAC Certification #19510832, PCGS #87057, PCGS POP 1/3
1879 T$1 Trade, CA PR67CA CAC Certification #25043748, PCGS #87059, POP 4/4
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ATF #6 - Trade Dollars, Proof (1873-1883)
The third set has the lesser graded coins. So, the value of the set is a measly $119,000. Will Hansen keep this set in his collection or sell it? Interesting, this is most colorful set. I doubt it means anything; it is just an interesting observation.
1875 T$1, CA PR65+ CA CAC Certification #25044067, PCGS #87055 POP 2/10
1879 T$1 Trade PR66 Certification #25564670, PCGS #7059
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
Gazes Challenge –Part 7
In this week’s update, we are comparing a grouping of half dollars from 1796 to 1921. Again, as each week so far, the challenge has been very competitive. Hansen still holds a slight lead overall.
The first comparison is the 1794. Eliasberg had a very nice MS61. This coin recently sold at the Heritage 2019 FUN US Coins Signature Auction in Orlando. The coin realized $288,000. It is not known who purchased this specimen. Both of Eliasberg 1796 and 1797 Draped Bust Small Eagle half dollars were a significant higher grade than Hansen’s circulated very fine examples. Also, Eliasberg 1815 was just a couple ticks better than Hansen. After this coin, the tide turned with a tie for the 1836 Reeded Edge Half Dollar, and Hansen completed the challenge with wins for the 1839-O, 1870-CC and 1921-D.
There was a come discussion early this week why examples like the 1817/4 (11 known) Capped Half Dollar is not included in the challenge. My similar question last week was with excluding the 1901-S quarter. In fairness of the challenge, I have to stick with the coins listed in the Doug Winters 2000 blog title “Stand Alone Coins” https://raregoldcoins.com/blog/articles/stand-alone-coins
They are coins with these criteria:
The coin is rare but not so rare that it becomes esoteric. The appeal of the coin is widespread. Its "essence" is easily definable--it has a great story or interesting history. It has "cross appeal" --i.e. collectors in various series all want this particular coin. It is affordable. It exists in relatively high grades(s).
I am a little disappointed when coins like the 1901-S quarter and 1817/4 are excluded. Maybe we can have a future challenge of forum member’s favorites.
Again this week, the challenge ended with a tie in the half dollar challenge at 3-3-1. Hansen maintains his 4 coin lead. Next week challenge will be a nice slate of silver dollars.
Half Dollar Challenge
1794 Half Dollar: First U.S. half dollar; rare low mintage issue.
Hansen Coin: 1794 Flowing Hair Half Dollar PCGS VF35 (PCGS POP 24/25)
Eliasberg Coin: 1794 Flowing Hair Half Dollar PCGS MS61 (PCGS POP 2/1)
1796-97 Half Dollars: Rarest U.S. silver type (Small Eagle reverse)
Hansen Coin: 1796 Draped Bust Small Eagle Half Dollar PCGS VF35 (PCGS POP 10/28)
Hansen Coin: 1797 Draped Bust Small Eagle Half Dollar PCGS VF40 (PCGS POP2/18)
Eliasberg Coin: 1796 Draped Bust Small Eagle Half Dollar PCGS 63 (PCGS POP 2/2)
Eliasberg Coin: 1797 Draped Bust Small Eagle Half Dollar PCGS 62+ (PCGS POP1/4)
1815 Half Dollar: Rarest year of the Capped Bust design.
Hansen Coin: 1815 Capped Bust Half Dollars PCGS MS63 (PCGS POP 3/7)
Eliasberg Coin: 1815 Capped Bust Half Dollars PCGS MS64+ (PCGS POP 1/2)
1836 Reeded Edge Half Dollar: Popular low mintage; first Reeded Edge issue.
Hansen Coin: 1836 Capped Bust Half Dollars, Reeded Edge Half Dollar PCGS MS64 CAC (POP 6/1)
Eliasberg Coin: 1836 Capped Bust Half Dollars, Reeded Edge Half Dollar Assume MS64 (POP 6/1)
1839-O Half Dollar: First collectible branch mint half dollar; obverse mintmark.
Hansen Coin: 1839-O Capped Bust Half Dollars PCGS MS65 (PCGS POP 5/3)
Eliasberg Coin: 1839-O Capped Bust Half Dollars Est. MS63 (PCGS POP 10/15)
1870-CC Half Dollar: First Carson City half dollar.
Hansen Coin: 1870-CC Liberty Seated Half Dollars PCGS MS64 (PCGS POP 1/0) Finest PCGS Certified
Eliasberg Coin: 1870-CC Liberty Seated Half Dollars Est. VF20 (PCGS POP 7/73)
1921-D Half Dollar: Rarest modern half dollar.
Hansen Coin: 1921-D Walking Liberty Half Dollars PCGS MS65+ CAC (PCGS POP 3/3)
Eliasberg Coin: 1921-D Walking Liberty Half Dollars Est. MS61 (PCGS POP 8/259)
Gaze Challenge Results
Half Dollars - Tie (3-3-1)
Overall - Hansen (13-9-4)
Winning Coins
Eliasberg’s 1794 Flowing Hair Half Dollar PCGS MS61 (PCGS POP 2/1)
Eliasberg’s 1797 Draped Bust Small Eagle Half Dollar PCGS 62+ (PCGS POP1/4)
Eliasberg’s 1815 Capped Bust Half Dollars PCGS MS64+ (PCGS POP 1/2)
Hansen’s 1836 Capped Bust Half Dollars, Reeded Edge Half Dollar PCGS MS64 (PCGS POP 6/1)
Eliasberg’s 1836 Capped Bust Half Dollars, Reeded Edge Half Dollar Assume MS64 (PCGS POP 6/1)
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Hansen’s 1839-O Capped Bust Half Dollars PCGS MS65 (PCGS POP 5/3)
Hansen’s 1870-CC Liberty Seated Half Dollars PCGS MS64 (PCGS POP 1/0) Finest PCGS Certified
Hansen’s 1921-D Walking Liberty Half Dollars PCGS MS65+ CAC (PCGS POP 3/3)
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Next Week - Silver Dollars:
1794 Silver Dollar: First U.S. silver dollar; very rare low mintage issue.
1836 Gobrecht Dollar: Popular short-lived design, attractive design.
1851-52 Silver Dollars: Very rare issues that exist both as originals and restrikes.
1870-CC Silver Dollar: First coin struck at the popular Carson City mint.
1889-CC Silver Dollar: Rarest Carson City Morgan dollar.
1893-S Silver Dollar: Rarest Morgan dollar.
1895 Silver Dollar: Popular proof-only(?) issue.
1921 Peace Dollar: First year of issue; one year type with High Relief design.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
Heads Up
This week I will be changing focus to some modern upgrades. I have been over looking the early to mid-20th Century coins in the Hansen Collection. Many of you on this forum view these coins with passion. The purchase of 1956-D Roosie was brought to my attention by a forum member. So, this week I will make a couple updates for a few 20th Century series. This will include several coins from the Heritage 2019 FUN US Coins Signature Auction in Orlando. Stay tune.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
FUN Purchases
This week let’s change focus and even centuries. Some the early to mid-20th Century coins in the Hansen collection get over looked by the BIG coins. There are a lot of registry individuals on this forum that these coins are their passion. This update is for you. The purchase of 1956-D Roosie was brought to my attention by a forum member. So, this week I will make a couple updates for a few 20th Century series. There were several coins from the Heritage 2019 FUN US Coins Signature Auction in Orlando that made improvement in sets in these series.
I am starting with three dimes that were purchased at the fun show. Two of them are in the Mercury Dime series and one Roosie. I think this is a reminder to us that even when the heat is on for the purchase of a $4 Million Dollar coin, the little guys are still in the mix.
Mercury Dimes
This series is one that Hansen is very deep. He has three 100% complete sets. Although in the main set (Mercury Dimes FB Basic Set, Circulation Strikes - 1916-1945), Hansen is number two in the ranking. Being he has no partial completed sets listed, then you could assume there are four and five tier coins lying around with no place to go. Could we see the Hansen’s MERCs going maybe five sets deep, due to there still room to improve his top tier MERC set. Forsythe is still the king of MERCs, with many great coins. To see Hansen’s sets: https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/half-dimes/mercury-dimes-major-sets/mercury-dimes-fb-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1916-1945/235
He improved his #2 set with two new purchases from the FUN Auctions. He has much work to do before he could overtake the present #1 set. Can anyone speak on if that is even possible without the #1 set going up for sale? It would be interesting to know.
1917-D Mercury Dime, FB MS66+ FB CAC
PCGS Coin # 4913 / PCGS Serial # 31814081 / POP 3/0
Description: Full Bands representatives of the 1917-D Mercury dime grade no finer than MS66. Gems are scarce, and Premium Gems are decidedly rare. This Plus-designated piece is among the finest Full Bands coins at PCGS and an essential acquisition for Registry Sets. Original mint luster glistens beneath russet and olive-gold toning on each side, and the design elements showcase full sharpness. A lack of bother some abrasions promotes strong eye appeal on this magnificent coin. (Heritage 1/2019)
Ex: FUN Signature (Heritage, 1/2003), lot 6507; ANA Signature (Heritage, 8/2010), lot 4493; Central States Signature (Heritage, 4/2011), lot 5075, The Charles McNutt Collection (Heritage 1/2019 realized $9,6000) – Hansen Collection
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1929 Mercury Dime, FB MS67+ FB CAC
PCGS Coin # 4973 / PCGS Serial # 36832100 / POP 7/1
Description: Plentiful through MS66 Full Bands, the 1929 transitions to conditionally scarce in MS67 and extremely rare any finer. This piece presents full strike definition over all-brilliant, radiantly lustrous, and practically unmarked surfaces. (Heritage 1/2019)
Ex: Unknown (Heritage 1/2019 realized $4,080) – Hansen Collection
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Roosevelt Dimes FB Basic Set
The Roosie dime series have several big fish in the deep end of the pool. Haylcon, Hall, Almighty, and Hansen are the biggest competitors in this series. Hansen is battling hard and presently in 2nd place. He updated one specimen from FUN, so that may say something about the competition. The 1956-D has remarkable color. Did anyone see that coin and can comment on it. Unlike the Mercury’s, Hansen has posted only one set so far.
1956-D Roosevelt Dime, FB MS68FB
PCGS Coin # 85113 / PCGS Serial # 81479653 / POP 1/0
Description: Remarkably cherry-red and apple-green toning consumes the obverse of this lustrous and well-struck dime. The reverse displays similar shades although in more delicate fashion. Pristine aside from unobtrusive contact on the portrait. (Heritage 1/2019)
Ex: Unknown (Heritage 2016 US Coins Signature Auction, realized $7,637.50); Five Generations of Eby Collection (Heritage 1/2019 realized $8,400) – Hansen Collection
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
I notice he has an 1864 $2.5 in the 1792-date set, but it has not been put in the 1792-1964 set.
The 1956D Roosie above is from the Just Having Collection auctioned back in 2009 in a PCGS MS67FB Holder. IMHO it is the finest known 1956D. Hansen has 3 registered 46 - 64 Silver sets. #1, #4 and #73. He only has one registered 46 - Date set. The Halcyon set is #1 in that category and is unbeatable because of the number of pop 1/0 and top pops from 65 - Date that are in the set. The Halcyon set would have to be sold or broken up before Hansen can claim #1 in the 46 - Date set. I believe the owner has no intention of either. But you never know...
I also know that while Hansen added the pop 1/0 56D to his Roosie set he also lost his pop 1/0 bonus for the 49P 68FB as another was slabbed at FUN. Lets see where that coin ends up over the next couple months. I think Hansen has some real competition in the Roosie Series, Even though it's probably #565 down the line of sets he is focusing on.
Just my 10c worth
Onlyroosies
Absolutely!
Halcyon easily has the #1 Roosie set in all catagories except the basic 1946-1964 Silver series. Halcyon has a H.o.F. Clad set. No one is even close.
Later, Paul.
The 1864 was not need for the quest. The collection has an amazing Proof 66 1864 $2.5 that was purchased at 2018 FUN auction. This new coin does fill a hole in the CS sets.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
More FUN Purchases
To continue focus on early to mid-20th Century coins what could be more popular the Lincoln cents? Everyone loves these coins, and I believe Hansen does too. He presently has the #1 set, but that does not appear to stop him from improving it. He has the ATF #1 and ATF #3 for “Lincoln Cents Classic Set, Circulation Strikes (1909-1964)”.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/half-cents/lincoln-cents-major-sets/lincoln-cents-classic-set-circulation-strikes-1909-1964/1936
Also, he has the ATF #1 and ATF #3 for the set that includes Lincolns to present day. The set has 265 coins.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/half-cents/lincoln-cents-major-sets/lincoln-cents-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1909-present/1246
From the FUN auction, Hansen came away with 12 upgrades to his Lincolns. The 1926-S was by far this biggest take away. This is only tied for the finest, but the coin is very rare in MS65RD. Actually Hansen is mention in the Heritage description. I think you would call that very good marketing. The total realized for the dozen lot was $338,760. Not a bad lot. Also, we can describe the lot as 11 of the 12 upgrades were either POP 1/0 or tied for the finest, and 4 of the 12 were POP 1/0.
With the purchased of the 1926-S, the only non MS65 and above coin in the collection is the 1922 No D 1C Strong Reverse PCGS certified MS64RB POP 4/5. I sure would love to be holding a MS65RD, but at the moment the POP report indicates ZERO! According to CoinFacts, the finest red/brown (MS65+RB) is housed in the Redlincoln Collection and the finest red (MS64RD) is in the Stewart Blay Collection. There is also a MS65BN, but not sure if Hansen would be interested in a brownie. He has no pre-1964 MS69RD in the collection. That could be a future interest. As we have discussed several times before, he does not have the ultra-rare 1958 DDO. So, I don’t the upgrades are over! Do you?
Lincoln Purchases from FUN:
1912-D Lincoln Cent MS66+ RD POP 4/0 – realized $15,600, Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1915-D Lincoln Cent MS67RD POP 1/0 – realized $43,200 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1918-D Lincoln Cent MS67RD POP 1/0 – realized $45,600 Ex: Unknown
1919-D Lincoln Cent MS67RD POP 1/1 – realized $31,200 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1921 Lincoln Cent MS68RD POP 4/0 – realized $36,000 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1926-S Lincoln Cent MS65RD POP 2/0 – realized $90,000 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1940 Lincoln Cent MS68RD POP 5/0 – realized $6,600 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1942-S Lincoln Cent MS68RD POP 2/0 – realized $7,800 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1944 Lincoln Cent MS68RD POP 2/0 – realized $11,400 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1945-D Lincoln Cent MS68RD POP 1/0 – realized $14,400 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1949-D Lincoln Cent MS67+ RD POP 1/0 – realized $5,760 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
1954 Lincoln Cent MS67RD POP 6/0 – realized $31,200 Ex: Jerald L. Martin
I featured my TOP 5. I excluded the 1949-D POP 1/0, included the only non-finest 1919-D POP 1/1. This coin looks the most amazing to me. I am not sure how one could be better. If you are a Lincoln guy, I hope you enjoy these 5 specimens.
1915-D Lincoln Cent MS67RD
PCGS Coin # 2482 / PCGS Serial # 29714503 / POP 1/0
Description: Surface preservation is unmatched, and the visual appeal is equally good. Aside from softness on the lower part of AM in AMERICA, the relief elements are fully brought-up. Light copper-orange color paints each side with shimmering satin mint luster. A minute carbon spot above Lincoln's shoulder is the only apparent marker for pedigree purposes. (Heritage 1/2019)
Ex: Jerald L. Martin, (Heritage 1/2019 realized $43,200) – Hansen Collection
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1918-D Lincoln Cent MS67RD
PCGS Coin # 2509 / PCGS Serial # 04196032 / POP 1/0
Description: This 1918-D Lincoln cent is the finest known, the only Superb Gem example with fully brilliant red mint luster. Housed in a green-label PCGS holder, this example has virtually flawless surfaces with bold design motifs. Lincoln's hair and beard are fully defined, as are the wheat ears on the reverse. The present piece meets all of those demands laid out by Mr. Guth. In addition, there are no spots or other marks of any sort on either side. Two trivial toning lines are evident right of the E in ONE, and are the only distractions on this amazing cent. (Heritage 1/2019)
Ex: Unknown, (Heritage 1/2019 realized $45,600) – Hansen Collection
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1919-D Lincoln Cent MS67RD **
**PCGS Coin # 2518 / PCGS Serial # 81958799 / POP 1/1
Description: Fiery brick-red color dominates both sides of this exquisite Superb Gem 1919-D Lincoln cent, one of the few finest survivors of this difficult mintmarked issue. As with the 1919-S, the emphasis was on quantity not quality, and more than 57 million were struck in this postwar boom year. But few survivors show such marvelous preservation, accompanied by an impeccable strike and a near-total lack of spots or other distractions. (Heritage 1/2019)
Ex: Jerald L. Martin, (Heritage 1/2019 realized $31,200) – Hansen Collection
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1926-S Lincoln Cent MS65RD
PCGS Coin # 2575 / PCGS Serial # 25684178 / POP 2/0
Description: The rarity of the 1926-S Lincoln cent in Gem full Red condition is such that even the most patient and well-funded collectors may never have an opportunity to acquire an example. Even the D.L. Hansen #1 All-Time Finest PCGS Registry Set of Lincoln cents does not contain a representative of this issue in MS65 Red. This is a direct reflection of the 1926-S cent's status as the absolute rarest issue in the series in Gem full Red condition, being significantly rarer as such than the 1955 Doubled Die variety, which is well-known as a major series condition rarity. The 1922 No D cent is unknown as a Red Gem, but it is more accurately a variety, and not an individual issue, much like the 1955 Doubled Die. (Heritage 1/2019)
Ex: Jerald L. Martin, (Heritage 1/2019 realized $90,000) – Hansen Collection
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1945-D Lincoln Cent MS68RD
PCGS Coin # 2737 / PCGS Serial # 25201506 / POP 1/0
Description: This miraculous example of the 1945-D cent, graded MS68 Red, has escaped all those mediocre outcomes, however, showing a great strike, vibrant luster and color, and a complete absence of any mentionable impairments. (Heritage 1/2019)
Ex: Long Beach Signature (Heritage, 6/2015), lot 3787, where it realized $14,100; Jerald L. Martin, (Heritage 1/2019 realized $14,400) – Hansen Collection
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
Long Beach TOP 5
I browsed the three big auctions at the upcoming Long Beach Show. There were no coins available in these auctions that are very significant. There were no Mr. BIGs. I could not find any coins offered for the 23 remaining countdown coins in the Eliasberg Quest. There were couple proofs that would be wonderful additions to the collection, and several upgrades. The Goldberg Auction did not have anything that I found would to have any noteworthy improvement for the Hansen Collection.
There were a couple early proof half dimes in the Heritage Long Beach Signature Auction that could be very nice additions. The Legend Long Beach Regency 30 Auction has a couple gold proofs. Also, Legend has quite a few of upgrades available, especially for the St. Gaudens Double Eagles and the Barber Half Dollars sets. Will Hansen get any of these? We don't know yet. So, let’s take a look at these top coins that are being offered.
1829 Half Dime, V-3, LM-2, PR65 Cameo - The Eliasberg Specimen
The first specimen is an 1829 Proof Half Dime. I am not sure why but the PCGS master proof set does not contain any Proof Capped Bust Half Dimes. I think this is a common inconsistency that PCGS has with their set requirements. The Capped Bust Half Dimes, Proof (1829-1837) PCGS set does not have any sets registered yet. For this reason, I would assume that there are no Proof Capped Bust Half Dimes in the Hansen Collection. If this is true, then the 1829 could be the first.
Description: The year 1829 marked multiple milestones for the U.S. Mint, including its second Mint Building and the introduction of close-collar technology which refined the facility's output. Proofs were struck for the Second Mint Building cornerstone and distribution to important persons. This Gem proof with strong contrast is richly toned yet thoroughly Cameo-worthy. The fields are reflective under gold-orange outer patina with sea-green and blue along much of the margins. A marvelously appealing representative of one of the few well-documented early proof issues bearing one of the most famous pedigrees in all of numismatics.
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1841 Seated Liberty Half Dime, PR65 - Tied for Finest Certified
This early Liberty Seated Half Dime is needed for the collection. This is a very nice specimen assuming it would cross over to PCGS without reduction.
Description: Russet, pale blue, and silver-white areas alternate to splendid effect on this attractive Gem proof 1841 half dime, one of perhaps eight to 10 known to survive of this early proof issue. The design elements are fully struck. NGC reports one each in PR63, PR64, and two in PR65, while PCGS shows two examples in PR63 and one in PR63 Cameo, making a total of seven grading events between the two services -- not necessarily all separate coins. In any case, this piece is tied for finest graded, at a minimum, and is the finer of only two with the CAC green approval sticker.
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$2.50 1882 PCGS PR66+ DCAM CAC - WOW, WOW, WOW! Did we say WOW? This coin is a near miss PR67 DCAM.
This would be a very nice addition to the Proof Quarter Eagle Gold Set. Legend is very excited about this coin.
Description: Remarkable ultra deep mirrors explode from all over. The mirrors are also crystal clear and are virtually perfect. We think we see one small line that keeps this coin from PR67 DC. Wouldn't it be nice if all coins were graded this strict? Anyway, when you twirl this coin, you see a freshly made sheet of glass with deep gold color. Miss Liberty and every detail are needle sharp in strike and have an ultra thick frosting. The eye appeal is insanely great!
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$20 1910 NGC PR66+ CAC - When we first saw this coin our jaws dropped and locked. We still can't close them! This coin is not only SUPER HIGH END but is out of this world! WOW!
This is another very nice coin that depends on a good crossover from the NGC holder.
Description: Insane-yes insane Roman finish surfaces blaze from all over. These are not semi Roman finish, these are knife sharp and stand out almost 3-D like Roman finish surfaces. In fact, this coin looks like a Modern made medal more than a 1910 Proof! The luster and flash are virtually blinding. There is not a single flaw visible even using the strongest glass. Both sides are an electric yellow gold color. There are NO spots or discolorations. Miss Liberty and every detail are so fully struck you do not need a glass to see fine details like her toes. We must say again, the eye appeal is intensely jaw dropping!
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Upgrades
For the last spot, I will just a mention some of the upgrades available. This Legend Regency auction is full of upgrades, finest specimens known, and even a few POP 1/0 specimens. This provides several opportunities for JB and DLH to pick and choose from the numerous of upgrades. For example, there are several upgradable St. Gaudens Double Eagles and Barber Half Dollars. I will show you best of each. There are plenty more.
$20 1909-D PCGS MS67 CAC - Ex. ELIASBERG/DUCKOR/A&A - Most likely the FINEST 1909-D in existence! (Estimate: 275,000.00 - 325,000.00 USD)
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50C 1896-O PCGS MS67 CAC FROM THE FORMULA 1 COLLECTION.EX ELIASBERG- STELLAR - Sole FINEST KNOWN 1896-O half dollar that exists (Estimate: 90,000.00 - 100,000.00 USD)
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
It's important to note that the 1922 No D Lincoln Cent in MS65 RB and MS65+ RB on CoinFacts are the same coin.
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1922-no-d-1c-strong-reverse-rb/3286
The 1841 PR-65 is V-8, ex-Gardner.
Here is a minimally researched 1841 proof half dime roster:
1. V-1 PR-65 Pittman/Kaufman, sold in 2008-1, 2014-2
2. V-1 PR-64 Eliasberg, sold in 2005-3
3. V-8 PR-65 Gardner, sold in 2014-10, 2016-2.
4. V-8 PR-63 cam, 2014-6
Note: V-8u is my unpublished unofficial designation.
The obverse date position is different from V-1, and the reverse is different as well.
Never mind. Go get them Mr. Hansen.
My 1866 Philly Mint Set
Very cool research Clint. If I am understanding this correctly, the two top pop PR65s are a different variety. Very interesting..
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
Gazes Challenge – Part 8
In this week’s update, we are comparing a grouping of Silver Dollars from 1794 to 1921. This will finish up the non-gold portion of the challenge. By not looking ahead, I really didn’t know what to expect from the challenge. I guess it is not surprising the challenge has been very competitive. Both the Eliasberg and Hansen Collections are amazing. Hansen holds on to his slight lead overall as we enter the gold portion of the challenge next week.
The first comparison is the 1794. Last week, Eliasberg had a very nice MS61 half dollar. This week, his estimated 1794 XF40 Silver Dollar specimen is less impressive. Hansen with his AU58+ takes the lead with the first coin. Eliasberg has an impressive PR64 1836 Gobrecht Dollar that is a couple ticks better that Hansen’s PR62. The four-coin 1851-52 Silver Dollars go to Hansen with his double GEM POP 1/0 specimens. He continues with an 1870-CC MS64 POP 1/0. Eliasberg makes a comeback with winning both the 1889-CC and 1893-CC. His 1889-CC is the famous MS66PL that sold in 1997 for $462,000 (now is in a PCGS MS68 holder (PCGS POP 1/0) -Finest Known) . I called the 1895 Proof as tie. Hansen wins challenge with the 1921 Peace Dollar in a convincing way.
Again this week, the challenge was very competitive. Hansen won 4-3-1 with the last coin. Hansen extends his lead to a 5 coin lead. He will take this lead into the gold portion of the challenge.
Silver Dollar Challenge
1794 Silver Dollar: First U.S. silver dollar; very rare low mintage issue.
Hansen Coin: 1794 Flowing Hair Silver Dollar PCGS AU58+ CAC (PCGS POP 1/6)
Eliasberg Coin: 1794 Flowing Hair Silver Dollar Est. XF40 (POP 11/19)
1836 Gobrecht Dollar: Popular short-lived design, attractive design.
Hansen Coin: 1836 Gobrecht Dollar Proof PCGS PR62 (PCGS POP 45/49)
Eliasberg Coin: 1836 Gobrecht Dollar Proof Est. PR64 (POP 67/27)
1851-52 Silver Dollars: Very rare issues that exist both as originals and restrikes.
Hansen Coin: 1851 Liberty Seated Dollar PCGS MS65 (PCGS POP 1/0) Finest Known
Hansen Coin: 1852 Liberty Seated Dollar PCGS MS65 (PCGS POP 1/0) Finest Known
Eliasberg Coin: 1851 Liberty Seated Dollar Assume MS60 (POP 0/20)
Eliasberg Coin: 1852 Liberty Seated Dollar Assume MS63 (POP 2/4)
1870-CC Silver Dollar: First coin struck at the popular Carson City mint.
Hansen Coin: 1870-CC Liberty Seated Dollar PCGS MS64 (PCGS POP 1/0) Finest Known
Eliasberg Coin: 1870-CC Liberty Seated Dollar PCGS MS62 (PCGS POP 8/8)
1889-CC Silver Dollar: Rarest Carson City Morgan dollar.
Hansen Coin: 1889-CC Morgan Dollar PCGS MS64+DM (PCGS POP 2/2)
Eliasberg Coin: 1889-CC Morgan Dollar PCGS MS68 (PCGS POP 1/0) Finest Known
1893-S Silver Dollar: Rarest Morgan dollar.
Hansen Coin: 1893-S Morgan Dollar PCGS AU55 (PCGS POP 42/54)
Eliasberg Coin: 1893-S Morgan Dollar Est. MS65 CAC (POP 5/1)
1895 Silver Dollar: Popular proof-only issue.
Hansen Coin: 1895 Morgan Proof Dollar PCGS PR67DC (PCGS POP 7/8)
Eliasberg Coin: : 1895 Morgan Proof Dollar Est PR67 (PCGS POP 7/8)
1921 Peace Dollar: First year of issue; one year type with High Relief design.
Hansen Coin: 1921 Peace Dollar PCGS MS66 (PCGS POP 182/9)
Eliasberg Coin: 1921 Peace Dollar Est. MS62
Gaze Challenge Results
Silver Dollars - Hansen (4-3-1)
Overall - Hansen (17-12-5)
Winning Coins:
Hansen’s 1794 Flowing Hair Silver Dollars PCGS AU58+ (PCGS POP 1/6)
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Eliasberg’s 1836 Gobrecht Dollar Proof Est. PR64 (PCGS POP 67/27)
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Hansen’s 1851 Liberty Seated Dollar PCGS MS65 (PCGS POP 1/0) -Finest Known
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Hansen’s 1852 Liberty Seated Dollar PCGS MS65 (PCGS POP 1/0) -Finest Known
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Hansen’s 1870-CC Liberty Seated Dollar PCGS MS64 (PCGS POP 1/0) -Finest Known
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Eliasberg’s 1889-CC Morgan Dollar PCGS MS68 (PCGS POP 1/0) -Finest Known
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Eliasberg's 1893-S Morgan Dollar Est. MS65DM (POP 5/1)
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TIE- Hansen’s 1895 Morgan Proof Dollar PCGS PR67DC (PCGS POP 7/8)
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TIE-Eliasberg's 1895 Morgan Proof Dollar Est PR67 (PCGS POP 7/8)
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Hansen's 1921 Peace Dollar PCGS MS66 (PCGS POP 182/9)
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Next Gold Dollars:
1855-C Gold Dollars: One year type coins; popular Type Two issues.
1855-D Gold Dollars: One year type coins; popular Type Two issues.
1861-D Gold Dollar: Only coin that was unquestionably struck by the Confederacy.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
will be curious what, if any, coins he adds to his collection from tonight's Legend auction
I'm sure most of us know what you mean @Currin but for the grades on the dollars. Most should be MS-grades but you put PR for most of them in your last post.
Andrew Blinkiewicz-Heritage
Thanks for the heads up. Very sloppy work today. I think I have everything fixed.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
Anyone heard anything pertaining to the auction last night? Hopefully, @JBatDavidLawrence
can will give us an update, or update sets.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
Wrong thread
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
Legend is still revealing winning bidders number (unless they were a floor bidder). Bidder No. 8404 (internet) as I recall was successful on many high end silver, but did not seem to go after the high end gold proofs as I recall. I assumed that the Hansen Collection was #8404, but that might also have been Legend at the direction of their consignor........ BTW 8404 is from my memory and may not be accurate.
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I think you are correct. Hansen added updates overnight. The majority of the coins are silver and strong in the half dollars. I seems that he agree with others that the gold was overpriced.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
this is a question for John Brush---the Hansen collection has a huge amount of amazing proof gold. Many of these coins show no auction records for 10-20 years. Did Hansen buy a few large proof gold collections or has he picked them off one or two at a time? These trade so infrequently it is amazing that he has put together what he has.
Tale of Two Halves
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times…..
For high-end gold, the Legend Regency sale was the worst of times. There were a couple high-end gold proofs that I thought Hansen would hit, they were passed. I thought he would be interested in the Eliasberg 1909-D Double Eagle. This coin sold for the auction record of $329,000, but many of the other high-end gold coins did not. Was the pricing too high? Not sure.
For Half Dollars, it was the best of times. DLH scored big on the both Barber and Walking Liberty Half Dollars. He purchased nine high-end Barbers and seven high-end WLs. Let’s look at the best coin for each series.
1896-O Barber Half Dollar PCGS MS67 CAC
This was the cream of the crop for the half dollars in the sale. The Hansen Collection of CS Barber Half Dollars reached All-Time Finest status around late July of 2018. Thanks much to the Perfection purchase. Presently, the competition in this series has fallen apart. The only two current sets in the All-Time Top 8 belong to the Hansen Collection. DLH is the only big fish in the pond at this time. I don’t think the top set can be reached, but that has not slowed down the purchasing of the finest Barbers Half Dollars when available. I think I remember this set being one of his favorites. I plan to do a deep dive later this week.
Among the 74 Barber Half Dollar issues, the 1896-O has long been prized as one of the rarest and most elusive issues. Look over the great auction sales of the past 50 years or so, and I think you will be surprised how seldom the 1896-O has been offered in Gem condition. Such high priced rarities as 1892-S, 1893-S and 1895 Morgan Dollars, and 1921-S Half Dollars have all appeared with far greater regularity in Gem condition than have not only this Barber Half Dollar issue but many of the other issues in this series as well. (David Akers)
In Legend description, this was written: Legend Rare Coin Auctions is honored to offer the sole FINEST KNOWN 1896-O half dollar that exists. While there were 924,000 halves struck, precious few were saved at the time of issue, and this is a very rare date in any Mint State grade. This pristine example was purchased directly from the New Orleans mint by J.M. Clapp in August 1896. Louis Eliasberg lovingly cared for this SUPERB GEM from 1942 when he bought the Clapp Estate. This magnificent SUPERB GEM was described in in the April 1997 auction of the Eliasberg Collection, in part as: "A superb gem example of one of the most highly prized issues of the series, a piece which ranks among the finest we have ever seen, and could probably just as easily be called full MS-66 or even higher. Certainly the connoisseur will want to cast hesitation aside when competing for this piece, secure in the knowledge that the coin is truly world class."
Highly lustrous surfaces have a pearlescent-satiny sheen on that glows on virtually pristine surfaces. A strong glass cannot find any traces of contact any where on the ultra clean fields and devices. Every detail is fully delineated from a crisp, exacting blow from the dies. A pale, clear gold hue is dusted in the centers, gradually deepening to an amber-gold that blends with a flashy electric blue at the extreme periphery. The eye appeal is simply stunning--this cataloger has been mesmerized by the amazing originality and superb quality. The 1896-O half is probably the rarest date in the series to find in Mint State. This example has long been considered one of the finest known, and the PCGS Population lists this stunning coin alone at the very apex of known specimens.
This is a stunning specimen and has found a good home in the Hansen Collection. The coin realized $123,375. Legend estimated the coin would bring $90,000 - $100,000. So, Hansen was willing to go 25% above the estimate, maybe higher. This coin was the second highest coin realized in the Legend Regency 30 Auction. Only coin realized more was the Eliasberg 1909-D Double Eagle.
1896-O Barber Half Dollar MS67 CAC
PCGS Coin #6475 / PCGS Serial #50183259 / POP 1/0
PCGS Price Guide: $100,000
John M. Clapp Collection, obtained directly from the New Orleans Mint in 8/1896 - John H. Clapp Collection, sold intact in 1942 - Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection - Bowers and Merena 4/1997:2077, $44,000 - Stellar Collection - Greensboro Collection - Heritage 8/2015:4075, $88,125; FORMULA 1 COLLECTION- Legend Regency 30, 1/2019 – Hansen Collection, $123,375
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1920-S Walking Liberty Half Dollar PCGS MS66+ CAC
For Half Dollars, 1920-S Walking Liberty Half Dollar specimen was second in the sale only to the 1896-O Barber Half Dollar. For the Walking Liberty Set, there is a different story to tell for The Hansen Collection. The biggist fish in this pond is Forsythe, but not the only one. There are two other large fish, Bauer and Julie. With this strong group, prior to this sale, Hansen had been feeding on crumbs at the bottom of the pond. This coin is his first and only PCGS POP 1/0 in the series. Not only was he able to obtain the 1920-S, but purchased six other nice specimens, and all but one are tied for the PCGS finest. DLH has not posted updates to this series yet. I think he will move closer to the top, but I am not sure he will be swimming with the big fish yet. We should know soon.
The 1920-S Walking Liberty half dollar is relatively available in the lower circulated grades (G to VG), but is scarce in higher circulated grades. Like all early Walkers, this issue is rare in mint state as very few examples were saved at the time of issue. It is comparable in rarity in both mint state and Gem condition to the 1920-D, 1923-S, and 1928-S...rare coins all. While not as rare in choice condition as the 1921-S and 1919-D and a few others, the 1920-S is definitely a key date in the series in top condition. Many of the surviving Gem examples come from a 40 piece mini-hoard found by half dollar specialist James Bennett Pryor and sold to dealer Jim Halperin in the late 1970s. (David Hall)
In Legend description, this was written: We can tell you the buyer of this coin the the Duckor sale was not alone in thinking it was a MS67. PCGS saw one teenie hidden tick and denied that lofty grade. Unquestionably, this piece still ranks among the finest survivors. Remarkable fully satiny surfaces are exceedingly clean and smooth. The only tick may not even be a tick-it could be a die/planchet issue. Regardless, it is a hidden tick. A booming yet glowing luster beams from all over. The color is an original satiny white with some faint hints of gold on the obverse. Miss Liberty and every detail are incredibly struck (you do not have to use a strong glass to see the split in the thumb). The eye appeal will bring any Walker collector to their knees as it is that incredible!
I think this is a TOP 5 Walking Liberty Specimen, but near the bottom. I am not a Walking Liberty specialist, so someone help me out here. It appear to me the TOP 3 specimens are the PCGS POP1 in the Forsythe Collection (1917-S Obv., 1919-D, and 1921-S). This would make Hansen’s 1920-S about 4 or 5 in overall Walkers.
The coin realized $96,937.50, just shy of $100K. Legend estimated the coin would bring $80,000 - $95,000. This coin was the fourth highest coin realized in the Legend Regency 30 Auction.
1920-S Walking Liberty Half Dollar MS66+ CAC
PCGS Coin #6582 / PCGS Serial #35138257 / POP 1/0
PCGS Price Guide: $85,000
Legend Numismatics, sold privately in 9/2011 - Eugene H. Gardner Collection, Part II - Heritage 10/2014:98579, $44,062.50 - Steven L. Duckor Collection - Heritage 1/2018:4879, $60,000; Legend Regency 30, 1/2019 – Hansen Collection, $96,937.50
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
You would be surprised how many people don't realize the 96-O Barber Half is the real key date in MS. It is also the lowest POP coin in MS and MS+ AU combined!
I made an error in my reporting yesterday. I said the 1920-S was the first and only POP 1 WL in the collection. Not true. There is a 1937-D that was added back in mid -December. For some reason that is unknown, this coin has not been added to Hansen’s WALKING LIBERTY HALF DOLLARS BASIC SET, CIRCULATION STRIKES (1916-1947). If there are more coins that have not been added, then this set may be a little better than I described yesterday.
1937-D Walking Liberty Half Dollar MS68 PCGS POP 1/0 - Undisputed Finest
If Hansen’s Walking Liberty Half Dollar set someday rises to the top, this will be the first impact coin in that journey. If my eyes are not deceiving me from comparing photographs, the 1937-D MS68 specimen is a recent crossover from only known MS68 NGC coin. The coin was the first (and only) specimen to be certified MS68 by TPG, PCGS or NGG. Another amazing point of interest, the coin has appeared in five Heritage Auctions beginning in 2002. The coin was once in the famous Robert Moreno Collection of Walking Liberty Half Dollars. For nearly a couple decades now, this coin has been referenced as “the significant example” for this date and mint mark. From a 2005 Heritage Auction when the coin was sold for Moreno: Many specialists consider this issue to be one of the toughest dates in the entire 1934 to 1947 span, despite higher values for a few other issues. Considering all grades, only the 1934-S, 1935-D, and 1935-S issues have lower total NGC populations. For the connoisseur, it is important to realize that only 94 Walking Liberty Half Dollars have been graded finer than MS67 by NGC. This remarkable coin is truly a wonder to behold. Both sides are beautifully toned in mottled powder-blue and champagne-apricot shades that are partially ringed by golden-green peripheral shadings. The strike is well above average for this often poorly impressed D-mint issue, and one would be hard pressed to find a noteworthy distraction even if they were to take a loupe to the surfaces. Satiny in sheen, and the only MS68 example known to both NGC and PCGS (6/05).
To crossover from NGC to PCGS does not happen routinely. The specimen is not recognized by name in the Coin Facts Pedigree and History, so when the data is updated, this coin will go to the top, jumping 5 MS67+. The coin last sold in the Heritage 2018 ANA WFOM Signature Auction in Philadelphia. The coin was characterized as “Colorful MS68, Amazing Jewel-Like Superb Gem, The Finest Known”. The coin description was similar to 2005, and referenced: this is the only MS68 example known at either NGC or PCGS. There is still only one, but now it is in PCGS holder. The coin realized $14,400 in this auction a few months ago. Now my question, should the name of the company on the holder make any difference in the value of the coin? Let’s see.
This coin was recent offered for sale by Pinnacle Rarities. The coin headlined as: “1937-D 50C Walking Liberty Half Dollar PCGS MS68”. Only a short description was given: The uncontested finest example graded for the issue by PCGS. The flawless surfaces exhibit thick, cartwheel luster beneath a breathtaking kaleidoscope of colors. Liberty's skirt lines and head details are nearly 100% full, while her hand and the eagle's leg display only minute softness. We love the Walking Liberty design, and when you find one with color like this they are a true delight to behold. A spectacular Walker deserving of inclusion in a world class Walking Liberty collection. The coin was listed for $74,500. If the listed price was achieved, then in just a few months, the coin increased in value by 500%. Let me conclude by saying this, I am using pictures for tracing the provenance. I feel pretty confident the two coins are the same, but I could be wrong.
Coin Facts price a PCGS MS68 at $77,500. So, the asking price by Pinnacle Rarities seems fair. It must have been, because JB has stated if the pricing is not fair, they will walk away. The coin does not appear to have a CAC, but I think it will at some point. This new upgrade would only be a start, if Hansen desires to be player in this series.
In comparing to Eliasberg’s specimen, his registry set describes his specimen as estimated grade MS64. The Eliasberg coin was sold by Bowers & Merena April 1997 as part of a large lot #2163.
1937-D Walking Liberty Half Dollar MS68 (PCGS Gold Shield)
PCGS Coin #6602 / PCGS Serial #36186393 / POP 1/0
Ex. New York, NY Signature Sale (Heritage, 7/2002), lot 8612, did not sell; Robert Moreno Collection (Heritage 7/2005), lot 10038, where it realized $18,400; FUN Signature Coin Auction (Heritage 1/2007), lot 1016, where it realized $23,000; Texas Signature Auction (Heritage, 11/2007), lot 1051, where it realized $21,275; ANA WFOM Signature Auction (Heritage, 8/2018), Lot 5159, where it realized $14,400; Hansen Collection purchased from Pinnacle Rarities, asking price $74,500
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
Barber Half Dollar Feature Update
This is the fourth time that I have provided an update or feature on the Barber Half Dollar CS Series. This has been one of the most active series in the Hansen Collection. Is this because Barber Half Dollars are one of DLH favorite series? Or is this just the right time and opportunity to purchase the Barber Half Dollars? I really don’t know and I guess it could be a little of both. Whatever the reason, The Hansen Barber Half Dollar has exceled. Before the purchase of the Perfection Collection last summer, the Barber Half Dollars Basic Set, Circulation Strikes were in fourth placed. With that purchase, 52 of the 73 coins were upgraded and the set move to second.
From the July 3rd, 2018 Update
With this purchased, the Hansen Collection upgraded 59 of 73 coins according to a Perfection posting. Most if not all were CACs. The upgraded included 15 Top Pop 1/0 PCGS certified coins! Another 17 upgrades are tied with this finest known. With these upgrades, the rating for the set is this 66.66, only 0.6 points behind Duckor. Therefore, the Hansen Barber Half Dollars Basic Set is in good position to overtake Duckor in the near future for All-Time Finest Set. According to Perfection thoughts… he will catch Duckor by this time next year.
These upgrades are beautiful and some of the finest coins known for this denomination. There are so many that I will limit to just 5 of my favorite coins.
1908-O 50C MS68 CAC PCGS POP 1/0
1892-S 50C MS67+ CAC PCGS POP 1/0
1899 50C MS67+ CAC PCGS POP 1/0
1900-S 50C MS67+ CAC PCGS 1/0
1909-O 50C MS67+ CAC PCGS 1/0
Note: There are another 10 PCGS TOP POP 1/0 added from the Perfection Collection
From the July 30th, 2018 Update
Over the weekend, the collection has added and upgraded about 85 coins. These coins were circulating strikes, proofs and even a few major varieties. There are several coins that can be discussed, but I will focus on the upgrades to the Barber Half Dollars Basic Set, Circulation Strikes (1892-1915). There were 9 upgrades that were contributed to this set, five PCGS finest, three tied- PCGS finest (2/0) and one is POP 1/1. These upgrades put the Hansen over the top for the all-time finest PCGS Barber Half Dollars Basic Set. The previous All-Time Finest, Hall of Fame set, Dr. and Mrs. Steven L. Duckor Collection with a weighted grade of 66.78. The Hansen set is now a couple ticks better at 66.81. The total PCGS grade value for the nine Barber half dollar upgrades: $329,500. I am sure Perfection can help with any holes and incorrect information.
1905-S 50C MS67+ CAC Cert 05976619 POP 1/0 - Replaces 1905-S MS64+ POP 1/12 - PCGS Value $32,500
Provenance: Unknown
1906-O 50C MS67+ CAC Cert 16398745 POP 1/0 – Replaces 1906-O MS66 POP 8/4 - PCGS Value $54,500
Provenance: New Orleans Mint - S. Benton Emery - Walter P. Nichols - Bowers & Merena 11/1984:835 - Dr. Thaine B. Price - David Akers 5/1998:168 - Dr. Steven Duckor - Heritage 8/2010:3217, $46,000 - “Perfection” Collection (PCGS Set Registry)
1906-S 50C MS67+ CAC Cert 16398746 POP 1/1 – Replaces 1906-S MS66 POP 4/5 - PCGS Value $26,500
Provenance: Ex: Numismatics, Ltd. (2/1976); James Bennett Pryor (Bowers and Merena, 1/1996), lot 300; David Akers (2/15/2006). From The Dr. and Mrs. Steven L. Duckor Barber Half Dollar Collection
1907-D 50C MS67+ CAC Cert 05350268 POP 2/0 – Replaces 1907-D 50C MS66 POP 10/6 - PCGS Value $30,000
Provenance: Ex: FUN Signature (Heritage, 1/2010), lot 2259, which brought $17,250. From The Jim O'Neal Collection
1907-S 50C MS67+ CAC Cert 16432093 POP 1/0 – Replaces 1907-S MS65 POP 8/10 - PCGS Value $35,000
Provenance: Ex: David Akers (12/23/1994). From The Dr. and Mrs. Steven L. Duckor Barber Half Dollar Collection
1908-O 50C MS68 CAC Cert 25043910 POP1/0 – Replaces 1908-O MS67 POP 14/7 - PCGS Value $50,000
Provenance: Perfection 9 Collection
1909-O 50C MS67+ CAC Cert 19806543 POP 1/0 – Replaces 1909-O MS66 POP 4/1 - PCGS Value $55,000
Provenance: Ex: John C. Hugon Collection (Heritage, 1/2005), lot 4254; Harry Laibstain (1/12/2005). From The Dr. Peter and Janice Shireman Collection.(
1913 50C MS66+ CAC Cert 07601735 POP 2/0 – Replaces 1913 MS66 POP 5/1 - PCGS Value $18,500
Provenance: John C. Hugon Collection
1914 50C MS66+ CAC Cert 25649338 POP 1/0 – Replaces 1914 MS 65 10/4 - PCGS Value $27,500
Provenance: Larry Shepherd, sold privately on 7/22/1998 - Dr. & Mrs. Steven L. Duckor Collection - Heritage 8/2010:3241, $37,375 - Eugene H. Gardner Collection, Part II - Heritage 10/2014:98567, $30,550
From the Aug 11th Update
A few weeks ago Hansen picked up top spot from the previous All-Time Finest, Hall of Fame set, Dr. and Mrs. Steven L. Duckor Collection. With this week’s upgrades, he has added the Major Varieties set to his All-Time Finest list. He still trails Bruce Scher’s Barber Half Proof All Time Finest set. Therefore, the collection still has a little ways to go for a Barber Half Dollar sweep.
DLH/JB made two very nice Barber Half Dollar upgrades. The total value PCGS places on these two upgrades are approx. $125,000. This should give you a sense of value for the upgrades that is going into this collection. Both the new purchases have ties to Dr. Peter and Janice Shireman Collection. One of the two has a PCGS POP 1/0 with the CAC sticker.
1892-O 50C Micro O MS65 CAC Cert 25200593 POP2/2
This Shireman specimen last appeared in Heritage Auctions 2016 January Fun where it sold for $85,188. PCGS grade value for this coin is $95,000. The coin is one of five known MS65 or better specimens. There are two finer. The lone PCGS MS67 and the finest PCGS MS68 Eliasberg-Friend Specimen are the two finer specimens by grade. The coin was described this way: This coin is satiny and lustrous with warm golden toning and unabraded surfaces. The stars and Liberty portrait are sharpLike other known Uncirculated Micro O halves, the present piece is moderately prooflike. This suggests that few pieces were struck, since any later strikes would instead display cartwheel luster. The obverse features light pearl-gray and golden-brown patina. The reverse has similar but deeper toning. Careful study beneath a loupe fails to reveal relevant marks, although the strike is slightly soft in the vertical area between the right shield corner and the fletchings. Evidence of strike doubling appears at the lower reverse.
Provenance: Superior 1/1989:4524 - Superior 10/1989:3770, $20,900 - Heritage 5/2008:743, $92,000 - Harry Laibstain, sold privately on 5/28/2008 - Dr. & Mrs. Peter K. Shireman Collection - Heritage 1/2016:5382, $85,188.
1892-O 50C Micro O MS65 CAC Shireman Specimen
1909-S 50C MS67+ CAC Cert 19806544 POP1/0 – Replaces 1909-S 50C MS66+ POP 2/7
This adds another PSGS POP1/0 to set that previously contained 18. This coin also has Shireman in the pedigree, along with the Hugon Collection. It is the finest certified specimen for 1909 Half Dollar San Francisco coins. This specimen last appeared in Heritage Auctions 2016 January Fun where it sold for $29,375. PCGS grade value for this coin is $29,500. The coin was described this way: Sparkling mint luster is seen over each side, and is evident even through the light overlay of champagne-golden toning that turns to mottled gold at the margins. The only mark that could be used as a pedigree identifier in the future is a tiny abrasion located on Liberty's cheek approximately 2 mm. behind the nostril. An incredible coin that should be examined by anyone interested in the Barber half dollar series.
Provenance: Heritage 1/1998:6947, $12,075 - John C. Hugon Collection - Heritage 1/2005:4254 - Harry Laibstain, sold privately on 1/12/2005 - Dr. Peter & Janice Shireman Collection - Heritage 1/2016:5417, $29,375.
1909-S 50C MS67+ CGS POP 1/0 - Shireman-Hugon Specimen
Today – 1/31/2019
I updated you a couple days on the purchase on the 1896-O Barber Half Dollar. Although, this was a $125,000 coin, it was not the only Barber Half Dollar. Including the 1896-O, there were eight other MS67 CAC coins purchased with 4 of them being PCGS POP 1/0. The set now has (23) POP 1/0 (31.5%). There are (32) others that are finest certified by PCGS (43.8%). There are only (18) that are not the finest or tied for finest (24.6%). The total for the Barber Half Dollar purchases, $411,837.50.
Barber Half Dollar Purchases from Legend Regency 30:
1895-S Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 2/0 CAC – realized $85,187.50, Ex: SHIREMAN -DUCKOR
1896-O Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 1/0 CAC – realized $123,375 Ex: ELIASBERG- STELLAR
1903-O Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 1/0 CAC – realized $47,000 Ex: DUCKOR-PRICE.
1906-D Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 1/0 CAC – realized $49,937.50 Ex: GARDNER
1908-S Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 2/0 CAC – realized $18,212.50 Ex: PRICE -GARDNER
1911-D Barber Half Dollar MS67POP 3/0 CAC – realized $25,850 Ex: ELIASBERG
1912-D Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 1/0 CAC – realized $18,212.50 Ex: FORMULA 1 COLLECTION
1913-S Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 1/0 CAC – realized $28,200 Ex: DUCKER - FRIEND
1915-S Barber Half Dollar MS67 POP 2/0 CAC – realized $15,862.50 Ex: SHIREMAN
1895-S 50C MS67 Certification #25200215, PCGS #6473
1903-O 50C MS67 Certification #16398735, PCGS #6496
1908-S 50C MS67 Certification #25227187, PCGS #6515
1913-S 50C MS67 Certification #16432111, PCGS #6529
1915-S 50C MS67 Certification #33520945, PCGS #6534
Future Update
Is this series complete? This is an interesting question. There are 13 PCGS POP 1/0 coins remaining out there somewhere. They are not shown in any registry sets. Are they in the same holding or scattered? Only time will tell if this set will get anymore upgrades.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
Currin,
Thank you for your continuing work on the construction of this magnificent set.
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