@ReggieCleveland said:
I certainly hope I'm wrong. I'm basing it off the edges/corners and the my knowledge of that particular issue. About ten years ago there was the explosion of European cards into the States. For a while, European sellers just sold their cards on their country's specific ebay site. Once they realized there was more money to be made selling them on U.S. ebay there was a boom. But there's a huge cultural difference in how they collect compared to how we collect. It is perfectly acceptable to trim cards to improve their presentation in Europe. Once they found out we primarily wanted high grade examples the trimming got out of control. At this point, I wouldn't buy a raw card from Europe unless it were a true rarity and condition didn't matter to me. Just my $0.02.
Arthur
Thanks for all the info. It was priced where it was worth the gamble and I won't be too upset if it's been trimmed. If it's not, it's a great get. Appreciate the opinions...
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
Been hitting some modern recently but excited about this vintage pickup from a few months ago. I had not shared and was waiting until I got it freshly re-holdered.
I have always thought this card is one of the most iconic in collecting not only because it is a HOF Rookie of an All Time Great but the overall look, design, color and goalie image of this card makes it a Hockey Masterpiece to me.
@UFFDAH said:
Been hitting some modern recently but excited about this vintage pickup from a few months ago. I had not shared and was waiting until I got it freshly re-holdered.
I have always thought this card is one of the most iconic in collecting not only because it is a HOF Rookie of an All Time Great but the overall look, design, color and goalie image of this card makes it a Hockey Masterpiece to me.
Congrats that is an amazing card. Ive always liked the '71 design myself. Always preferred the term waffle to blocker. Great image.
Gift card use on eBay. Arrives after Christmas but no biggie here. Whenever I get a gift card or cash and use it on cards I try my best to get something that
"looks" like a Christmas gift. Something I'll have no trouble displaying or holding onto for another 30-40 years. . Plus this kind of dunk is what initially drew me to The Glide
@hyperchipper09 said:
Gift card use on eBay. Arrives after Christmas but no biggie here. Whenever I get a gift card or cash and use it on cards I try my best to get something that
"looks" like a Christmas gift. Something I'll have no trouble displaying or holding onto for another 30-40 years. . Plus this kind of dunk is what initially drew me to The Glide
@hyperchipper09 Love the photo on the Clyde card! Late 80s and early 90s were the only years I followed the NBA. Loved me some Lakers vs Celtics on Sega!
These will be my last pickups of the year. I have an odd situation with one of the cards. Have you ever bought a card that made you feel dirty? Not that kind of dirty you sickos (yeah @OddRodz I'm looking at you here ). I'm talking about a card where you freely admit to buying the holder and not the card? Well I did here for sure. The 1975 OPC Team Leaders #315 is a 10 Pop 1 so I bought it for that reason alone. The card has some serious tilt going on along with 38/62 T/B and 41/59 L/R by my generous measurements I wont even get into the soft looking upper left corner. I admit it was strictly purchased for set registry purposes. Whhhhhhh..... I feel a bit better after getting that off my chest.
All of these are for my 70's Sabres run except the last which was just a nice 3 color The Cup RC Patch for Eichel.
Closes down my month here(I think). In January I may wait till the end of the month before posting in the thread so I'm not clogging things up with my posts. First LeBron card for me, and one of the newer cards in my collection. Didn't want anything that would break the bank, just wanted a really nice looking rookie
picked up a Jim Brown for my running back collecdtion.......im happy with the 2.5.......
Looks good! Clean border, off center but not distractingly so, and a pretty clear image for a low grade card that is in the discussion for 'most iconic football card'.
Love it
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
picked up a Jim Brown for my running back collecdtion.......im happy with the 2.5.......
Looks good! Clean border, off center but not distractingly so, and a pretty clear image for a low grade card that is in the discussion for 'most iconic football card'.
Love it
Thanks my brother I love it! May upgrade someday but for now im super happy.
I bought it off Sewell on ebay so that was his scan I used. It is a beautiful card in my opinion as it looks to have a small
finger indentation on the right edge.
@DM23HOF said:
Dirt from the game is on the base; love it!
I'm not much of a fan of all the endless paches on cards and stuff but the dirt on the base is a total game changer for me. That card is awesome. Congrats on the pickup!
These came in over the last few days. With the addition of the 63 O'Dell, I now need 3 cards to complete the 63 Fleer set. The 56 Topps are for my PSA 8 HOF set.
James
Final add, won't be here till January. But a possible HOF'er a few years down the line, won it for $5, why not . I've enjoyed seeing everyone's pick ups . The Jim Brown is great.
@UFFDAH said:
Been hitting some modern recently but excited about this vintage pickup from a few months ago. I had not shared and was waiting until I got it freshly re-holdered.
I have always thought this card is one of the most iconic in collecting not only because it is a HOF Rookie of an All Time Great but the overall look, design, color and goalie image of this card makes it a Hockey Masterpiece to me.
Congrats that is an amazing card. Ive always liked the '71 design myself. Always preferred the term waffle to blocker. Great image.
@UFFDAH said:
Been hitting some modern recently but excited about this vintage pickup from a few months ago. I had not shared and was waiting until I got it freshly re-holdered.
I have always thought this card is one of the most iconic in collecting not only because it is a HOF Rookie of an All Time Great but the overall look, design, color and goalie image of this card makes it a Hockey Masterpiece to me.
Congrats that is an amazing card. Ive always liked the '71 design myself. Always preferred the term waffle to blocker. Great image.
Kevin
Just read about this on Blowout. Sorry.
Saw that too - To be hit twice like this is simply not fair. Hope you are made whole.
I bet Brent claimed no knowledge or provenance on this one as well, even though his buddy Moser bought it, coloured it in, regraded and sent back for consignment?
Can’t even imagine how many high grade altered cards moser and PWCC have moved the last decade, tens of millions of dollars worth.
Moderator, I kindly suggest to you to please close this thread. The impacted party and the rest of us have other avenues to gather our information, such as other threads/boards.
@LGC said:
Moderator, I kindly suggest to you to please close this thread. The impacted party and the rest of us have other avenues to gather our information, such as other threads/boards.
I agree, but for different reasons. The person who bumped this thread has 8 posts and it feels to me like he did so simply to rub salt in the victim’s wounds.
I didn’t bump the thread but I disagree that this shouldn’t be shared. Why is everyone so keen to move on from this? The buyer has recourse, he will not get burned. And it is clearly not his fault, he was misled.
Amazing how anxious folks seem to be for this to go away. I am glad PSA is allowing these discussions but completely confused as to why significant members of this community would rather we all just let this slide. We are talking thousands of high end altered, representing 10s of millions in total sales volume.
For anyone not understanding, the Dryden represents the ability for a card doctor to micro colour in small blemishes to improve tone, remove snow etc. This is not a guy with a marker working on 71’s. Its a significant development, how many of your cards would bump of you could just fill in a print spot, fix a border, or remove snow?
As a hobby are we really just going to let this all slide because the conversation is difficult?
@LGC said:
Moderator, I kindly suggest to you to please close this thread. The impacted party and the rest of us have other avenues to gather our information, such as other threads/boards.
@80sOPC said:
I didn’t bump the thread but I disagree that this shouldn’t be shared. Why is everyone so keen to move on from this? The buyer has recourse, he will not get burned. And it is clearly not his fault, he was misled.
Amazing how anxious folks seem to be for this to go away. I am glad PSA is allowing these discussions but completely confused as to why significant members of this community would rather we all just let this slide. We are talking thousands of high end altered, representing 10s of millions in total sales volume.
For anyone not understanding, the Dryden represents the ability for a card doctor to micro colour in small blemishes to improve tone, remove snow etc. This is not a guy with a marker working on 71’s. Its a significant development, how many of your cards would bump of you could just fill in a print spot, fix a border, or remove snow?
As a hobby are we really just going to let this all slide because the conversation is difficult?
@LGC said:
Moderator, I kindly suggest to you to please close this thread. The impacted party and the rest of us have other avenues to gather our information, such as other threads/boards.
Absolutely not going to let it slide and don’t want the conversations to stop. I think I’ve been consistent in saying that all the card doctoring, and the shill bidding, is completely reprehensible and that PWCC should be shut down and Brent placed in federal prison, in my opinion. I was simply, in this case only, questioning the motives of the bumper.
@80sOPC said:
Can’t even imagine how many high grade altered cards moser and PWCC have moved the last decade, tens of millions of dollars worth.
Someone over in the '52 Mantle PWCC auction thread on Blowout has been keeping track of just the value gained after the alterations by Moser then sold through PWCC and the total for just that one thread is up to $589,217.
I am going to close this thread. I believe that discussion on the issue should be allowed and it is healthy for the community to work through. I don't necessarily like or agree with all of the statements made, but as long as they are civil, I feel they should be allowed to continue. However, I also do not want every thread in the forum to be centered on the issue. We already have a number of them. Please keep this type of discussion in those threads.
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Thanks for all the info. It was priced where it was worth the gamble and I won't be too upset if it's been trimmed. If it's not, it's a great get. Appreciate the opinions...
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
Here is another favorite Pop 1 Judge. Is it Spring yet? Miss baseball! Gonna hit this coffee then spend the morning hitting!
Instagram: mattyc_collection
Been hitting some modern recently but excited about this vintage pickup from a few months ago. I had not shared and was waiting until I got it freshly re-holdered.
I have always thought this card is one of the most iconic in collecting not only because it is a HOF Rookie of an All Time Great but the overall look, design, color and goalie image of this card makes it a Hockey Masterpiece to me.
Congrats that is an amazing card. Ive always liked the '71 design myself. Always preferred the term waffle to blocker. Great image.
Kevin
Kevin
Latest pickups.
aconte
What a gorgeous Kaline Rookie!
http://www.unisquare.com/store/brick/
Ralph
Got this in the mail today, will send to PSA soon.
Thank you!
I agree with Ralph, very nice Kaline rookie. The 64 ain't too shabby either. Why is the 54 only a PSA 4?
James
Gift card use on eBay. Arrives after Christmas but no biggie here. Whenever I get a gift card or cash and use it on cards I try my best to get something that
. Plus this kind of dunk is what initially drew me to The Glide 
"looks" like a Christmas gift. Something I'll have no trouble displaying or holding onto for another 30-40 years.
Cool auto and cool card. Classic Drexler action shot.
Christmas came early!
So much great stuff to look at - thanx guys.
I can't compete with James - he just keeps coming up with great 63F's.
This is a centering upgrade for me.
Being a State fan, I prefer this dunk
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Greg Maddux #1 Master SetGreg Maddux #2 Basic Set
Finished my Burger King Autograph Catfish Hunter run with the '77 this week.
Added a couple of Stadium Club 90's inserts of MJ for the future sub pile.
Eric
Erikthredd’s MJ Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/publishedset/395035
Erikthredd’s Nike Air Jordan Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/basketball/key-card-sets/nike-poster-cards-michael-jordan-1985-1992/alltimeset/408486
@hyperchipper09 Love the photo on the Clyde card! Late 80s and early 90s were the only years I followed the NBA. Loved me some Lakers vs Celtics on Sega!
These will be my last pickups of the year. I have an odd situation with one of the cards. Have you ever bought a card that made you feel dirty? Not that kind of dirty you sickos (yeah @OddRodz I'm looking at you here
). I'm talking about a card where you freely admit to buying the holder and not the card? Well I did here for sure. The 1975 OPC Team Leaders #315 is a 10 Pop 1 so I bought it for that reason alone. The card has some serious tilt going on along with 38/62 T/B and 41/59 L/R by my generous measurements I wont even get into the soft looking upper left corner. I admit it was strictly purchased for set registry purposes. Whhhhhhh..... I feel a bit better after getting that off my chest.
All of these are for my 70's Sabres run except the last which was just a nice 3 color The Cup RC Patch for Eichel.
Kevin
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Kevin
I'm sure you won't wind up in "PSA jail" Kevin.
As usual some really nice Sabers cards.
Happy New Year buddy.
Not the ideal PSA 10 on the 75 OPC but when it is a POP 1 you do what you got to do for the registry. Congrats on some nice pickups.
Ban him.
Arthur
Thanks Mike thought I might need to start an alt account moving forward
. I hope you too have a Happy New Year!
Kevin
Kevin
Got this Black 6/10 for xmas, pop 1
myslabs.to/smzcards
Another needle found in the 4SC haystack...
Closes down my month here(I think). In January I may wait till the end of the month before posting in the thread so I'm not clogging things up with my posts. First LeBron card for me, and one of the newer cards in my collection. Didn't want anything that would break the bank, just wanted a really nice looking rookie
My last addition of 2017 arrived last night with a cracked slab unfortunately. Luckily no damage to the card.
Eric
Erikthredd’s MJ Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/publishedset/395035
Erikthredd’s Nike Air Jordan Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/basketball/key-card-sets/nike-poster-cards-michael-jordan-1985-1992/alltimeset/408486
I'm rather curious on the PSA 4? It looks gorgeous! And are you the Sewall on ebay?
My final pickups for 2017.
picked up a Jim Brown for my running back collecdtion.......im happy with the 2.5.......
Love the Kaline rookie!
Looks good! Clean border, off center but not distractingly so, and a pretty clear image for a low grade card that is in the discussion for 'most iconic football card'.
Love it
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
Thanks my brother I love it! May upgrade someday but for now im super happy.
Dirt from the game is on the base; love it!
Instagram: mattyc_collection
Thank you!
I bought it off Sewell on ebay so that was his scan I used. It is a beautiful card in my opinion as it looks to have a small
finger indentation on the right edge.
I'm not much of a fan of all the endless paches on cards and stuff but the dirt on the base is a total game changer for me. That card is awesome. Congrats on the pickup!
Arthur
These came in over the last few days. With the addition of the 63 O'Dell, I now need 3 cards to complete the 63 Fleer set. The 56 Topps are for my PSA 8 HOF set.
James
I don't have #66 yet James - very nice card - the centering for that card is just about as good as it gets buddy.
Happy New Year.
Final add, won't be here till January. But a possible HOF'er a few years down the line, won it for $5, why not
. I've enjoyed seeing everyone's pick ups 
. The Jim Brown is great. 
I thought my pickups were done for the year, but this came a few days early!
I didn't expect this one to arrive until next week. What a nice little surprise on New Year's Eve to find this on my front porch...
1937 Wheaties - Series 8 - Joe DiMaggio
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
Just read about this on Blowout. Sorry.
Saw that too - To be hit twice like this is simply not fair. Hope you are made whole.
Crazy that the Dryden was coloured in.
I bet Brent claimed no knowledge or provenance on this one as well, even though his buddy Moser bought it, coloured it in, regraded and sent back for consignment?
Can’t even imagine how many high grade altered cards moser and PWCC have moved the last decade, tens of millions of dollars worth.
Moderator, I kindly suggest to you to please close this thread. The impacted party and the rest of us have other avenues to gather our information, such as other threads/boards.
I agree, but for different reasons. The person who bumped this thread has 8 posts and it feels to me like he did so simply to rub salt in the victim’s wounds.
Yaz Master Set
#1 Gino Cappelletti master set
#1 John Hannah master set
Also collecting Andre Tippett, Patriots Greats' RCs, Dwight Evans, 1964 Venezuelan Topps, 1974 Topps Red Sox
I don’t know, it was nice to see that Joe DiMaggio Wheaties Panel...looks even better once I cleaned up the borders and had it graded (highest):
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
I didn’t bump the thread but I disagree that this shouldn’t be shared. Why is everyone so keen to move on from this? The buyer has recourse, he will not get burned. And it is clearly not his fault, he was misled.
Amazing how anxious folks seem to be for this to go away. I am glad PSA is allowing these discussions but completely confused as to why significant members of this community would rather we all just let this slide. We are talking thousands of high end altered, representing 10s of millions in total sales volume.
For anyone not understanding, the Dryden represents the ability for a card doctor to micro colour in small blemishes to improve tone, remove snow etc. This is not a guy with a marker working on 71’s. Its a significant development, how many of your cards would bump of you could just fill in a print spot, fix a border, or remove snow?
As a hobby are we really just going to let this all slide because the conversation is difficult?
Absolutely not going to let it slide and don’t want the conversations to stop. I think I’ve been consistent in saying that all the card doctoring, and the shill bidding, is completely reprehensible and that PWCC should be shut down and Brent placed in federal prison, in my opinion. I was simply, in this case only, questioning the motives of the bumper.
Yaz Master Set
#1 Gino Cappelletti master set
#1 John Hannah master set
Also collecting Andre Tippett, Patriots Greats' RCs, Dwight Evans, 1964 Venezuelan Topps, 1974 Topps Red Sox
Someone over in the '52 Mantle PWCC auction thread on Blowout has been keeping track of just the value gained after the alterations by Moser then sold through PWCC and the total for just that one thread is up to $589,217.
Eric
Erikthredd’s MJ Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/publishedset/395035
Erikthredd’s Nike Air Jordan Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/basketball/key-card-sets/nike-poster-cards-michael-jordan-1985-1992/alltimeset/408486
I am going to close this thread. I believe that discussion on the issue should be allowed and it is healthy for the community to work through. I don't necessarily like or agree with all of the statements made, but as long as they are civil, I feel they should be allowed to continue. However, I also do not want every thread in the forum to be centered on the issue. We already have a number of them. Please keep this type of discussion in those threads.