@Onastone said:
FINALLY!!!! Mine just came today and I have to say it's the most beautiful coin this year! Outstanding. Coin of the Year! The Eagle is superb.
I love it when collectors get excited. It's great for the hobby even if you don't collect moderns
mark
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@Gluggo said:
Looks like prices are starting to stabilize but there still creeping up. Now very close to $1,900.00 for a 70 grade coin. When will this stop?
IMO I think we are near the point where collector interest is satisfied. If you wanted one, you have already bought one, like I did. I too will play the wait game and see how it unfolds. I'm not a fan of purchasing coins with stock images or the lofty 70 grade, but I did from APMEX. On any given day a 70 is a 69 and a 69 is a 70.
@Gluggo said:
Looks like prices are starting to stabilize but there still creeping up. Now very close to $1,900.00 for a 70 grade coin. When will this stop?
@morgansforever said:
IMO I think we are near the point where collector interest is satisfied. If you wanted one, you have already bought one, like I did. I too will play the wait game and see how it unfolds. I'm not a fan of purchasing coins with stock images or the lofty 70 grade, but I did from APMEX. On any given day a 70 is a 69 and a 69 is a 70.
Not yet .. Last Week, my dealer friend got the most calls about a Mint product ... since the 2006 Anniv sets
@Onastone said:
FINALLY!!!! Mine just came today and I have to say it's the most beautiful coin this year! Outstanding. Coin of the Year! The Eagle is superb.
I think it's the most beautiful coin since the UHR.
@Onastone said:
FINALLY!!!! Mine just came today and I have to say it's the most beautiful coin this year! Outstanding. Coin of the Year! The Eagle is superb.
I think it's the most beautiful coin since the UHR.
Oh yeah, Raufus!
Brings back good memories. It’s been a long wait for something this stunning.
Congratulations to those they got theirs. I am happy with mine.
If the 15,000 mintage holds, these will become (arguably already are) one of the most sought-after American coins of the last 50 years. Their mintage is a tiny fraction of the UHR (to which I think they are most closely related), or the first year releases for the gold eagle, the silver eagle, the platinum eagle.
These are very cool, and I can see demand from outside of the "normal" domestic numismatic community.
There are 300,000,000 Americans. Only one in 20,000 Americans can own one of these. Ever. Only 300 people in each state. And I believe these will have more than a passing interest in many foreign countries as well. Europe, Asia, India will all have at least some interest. If even 1/4 of these go overseas, then the number of Americans who can own one drops to around 200 in each state or fewer than one in 25,000.
We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last. --Severian the Lame
@Weiss said:
If the 15,000 mintage holds, these will become (arguably already are) one of the most sought-after American coins of the last 50 years. Their mintage is a tiny fraction of the UHR (to which I think they are most closely related), or the first year releases for the gold eagle, the silver eagle, the platinum eagle.
These are very cool, and I can see demand from outside of the "normal" domestic numismatic community.
There are 300,000,000 Americans. Only one in 20,000 Americans can own one of these. Ever. Only 300 people in each state. And I believe these will have more than a passing interest in many foreign countries as well. Europe, Asia, India will all have at least some interest. If even 1/4 of these go overseas, then the number of Americans who can own one drops to around 200 in each state or fewer than one in 25,000.
@Weiss said:
If the 15,000 mintage holds, these will become (arguably already are) one of the most sought-after American coins of the last 50 years. Their mintage is a tiny fraction of the UHR (to which I think they are most closely related), or the first year releases for the gold eagle, the silver eagle, the platinum eagle.
These are very cool, and I can see demand from outside of the "normal" domestic numismatic community.
There are 300,000,000 Americans. Only one in 20,000 Americans can own one of these. Ever. Only 300 people in each state. And I believe these will have more than a passing interest in many foreign countries as well. Europe, Asia, India will all have at least some interest. If even 1/4 of these go overseas, then the number of Americans who can own one drops to around 200 in each state or fewer than one in 25,000.
Do you think there are 300 collectors in each state? If you consider many have bought 2 or more, that would mean there are only 150 - 200 for each state. If you are a collector of PCGS MS70's there are only 2,403 to go around at this time. That leaves 48 measly coins in PCGS 70 grade for each state. IMO, I think the price will hold up well on these.
@Weiss said:
If the 15,000 mintage holds, these will become (arguably already are) one of the most sought-after American coins of the last 50 years. Their mintage is a tiny fraction of the UHR (to which I think they are most closely related), or the first year releases for the gold eagle, the silver eagle, the platinum eagle.
These are very cool, and I can see demand from outside of the "normal" domestic numismatic community.
There are 300,000,000 Americans. Only one in 20,000 Americans can own one of these. Ever. Only 300 people in each state. And I believe these will have more than a passing interest in many foreign countries as well. Europe, Asia, India will all have at least some interest. If even 1/4 of these go overseas, then the number of Americans who can own one drops to around 200 in each state or fewer than one in 25,000.
But they will be making more every year.
This is the way I look at it. This year has a stand alone coin, It's the 2017 Palladium eagle with a mintage of 15,000 units so only 15,000 sets can be made from her on out. Do I think it's a $10k coin No but a $3k to $5k Yes.
Just like the 95W that is a one year low minted coin and not the only proof eagle made does well this coin will do the same.
Did they make others after that? Yes but not the 95W and how much is that coin in a 69 or 70? The 1st year and low mintage is the "KEY" and this coin is one of the lowest minted coins in the eagle series so far. I think it's a WINNER. But that's just me DUMB Type2 thinking.
I'm in $300 over melt if it go's south to spot will it kill me No but if it go's north to $3k or $5k that will eat me up knowing I had the chance and did not act.
1st year low mintage "Key"
Low mintage "Key" What will you pay for a "Key" coin?
Opportunity, Opportunity, Opportunity That's it knocking are you going to answer?
@Onastone said:
FINALLY!!!! Mine just came today and I have to say it's the most beautiful coin this year! Outstanding. Coin of the Year! The Eagle is superb.
I think it's the most beautiful coin since the UHR.
@Weiss said:
If the 15,000 mintage holds, these will become (arguably already are) one of the most sought-after American coins of the last 50 years. Their mintage is a tiny fraction of the UHR (to which I think they are most closely related), or the first year releases for the gold eagle, the silver eagle, the platinum eagle.
These are very cool, and I can see demand from outside of the "normal" domestic numismatic community.
There are 300,000,000 Americans. Only one in 20,000 Americans can own one of these. Ever. Only 300 people in each state. And I believe these will have more than a passing interest in many foreign countries as well. Europe, Asia, India will all have at least some interest. If even 1/4 of these go overseas, then the number of Americans who can own one drops to around 200 in each state or fewer than one in 25,000.
But they will be making more every year.
This is the way I look at it. This year has a stand alone coin, It's the 2017 Palladium eagle with a mintage of 15,000 units so only 15,000 sets can be made from her on out. Do I think it's a $10k coin No but a $3k to $5k Yes.
Just like the 95W that is a one year low minted coin and not the only proof eagle made does well this coin will do the same.
Did they make others after that? Yes but not the 95W and how much is that coin in a 69 or 70? The 1st year and low mintage is the "KEY" and this coin is one of the lowest minted coins in the eagle series so far. I think it's a WINNER. But that's just me DUMB Type2 thinking.
I'm in $300 over melt if it go's south to spot will it kill me No but if it go's north to $3k or $5k that will eat me up knowing I had the chance and did not act.
1st year low mintage "Key"
Low mintage "Key" What will you pay for a "Key" coin?
Opportunity, Opportunity, Opportunity That's it knocking are you going to answer?
If the Mint continues on into 2018, the mintage may be closer to 50,000. Then there's the W proof, W uncirculated and fractionals to consider. The Mint loves a winner and never ceases to exploit.
Kind of crazy you cant get a raw one but they have a lot of graded ones. I think the mint should look in to the price gouging before they do this again. By just releasing them to dealers 1st is like shooting fish in a barrel one thing me and you are the fish. There will be some raw one's soon after they get returned for not getting the grade, Watch this week or next week will be the time to let them go.
@Type2 said:
Kind of crazy you cant get a raw one but they have a lot of graded ones. There will be some raw one's soon after they get returned for not getting the grade, Watch this week or next week will be the time to let them go.
Interesting I think your right and that would be low! I might have to call a MCM sale's person and interrogate them. Of course they have their sister company that they can pawn them off on!
I guess it's no longer the golden rule it's the Palladium rule now. He who has the Palladium makes the rule's. That eBay auction is so they can keep selling for a higher price, I'm saying why don't they have them on there site like spot + 20% over or 30% I know why and you know why but that is why the mint needs to sell to the open market when it's limited if the shoe was on the other foot you bet there would be some hell to pay. All the big dealers would be calling the mint asking why did they just sell to the collectors. That is why the mint said we will come out with them next year in PR, SP but the MS will be at the bullion distributor again. Just me DUMB Type2 blowing steam.
If you remember, there was a debacle when the 5oz pucks first came out. Price gauging and other shenanigans. The mint had to step in and institute rules and profit restrictions on the Authorized Purchasers. APMEX was one of them. They still played games with slabbed examples. I continue to have a bad taste in my mouth about them.
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Going to wager next year will have a higher mintage.
And don't forget fractional ones too.......maybe...hopefully
Who ever told APMEX to get off their duff and send me my PCGS FS Black Label THANK YOU! It just shipped!!!!
Latest population report
https://www.pcgs.com/pop/pcgsnolookup.aspx?s=652892&bc=653109
FINALLY!!!! Mine just came today and I have to say it's the most beautiful coin this year! Outstanding. Coin of the Year! The Eagle is superb.
Congrats Ona!
I love it when collectors get excited. It's great for the hobby even if you don't collect moderns
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Well Gluggo>>>>>> Did it come? Did you get it? Is it in pristine shape????????
They made it!
Coin looks much better with a 1st Strike Flag label
I agree! But Check out the Population Numbers . # 653490 FDOI POP RPT = 1/422 = 69/70 vs #653110 First Strike POP RPT 272/756 = 69/70 Interesting!
I love our flag. Not so much on coin holders
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I was thinking the exact opposite.
Not really... It’s really easy to say only slab 70’s and send the 69’s back...
Looks like prices are starting to stabilize but there still creeping up. Now very close to $1,900.00 for a 70 grade coin. When will this stop?
https://www.apmex.com/product/152023/2017-1-oz-palladium-american-eagle-ms-70-ngc-early-releases
I don't see prices going down unless they crank out more coins!
When the flippers exit I see the prices going south. I will wait to buy one till they come down!
IMO I think we are near the point where collector interest is satisfied. If you wanted one, you have already bought one, like I did. I too will play the wait game and see how it unfolds. I'm not a fan of purchasing coins with stock images or the lofty 70 grade, but I did from APMEX. On any given day a 70 is a 69 and a 69 is a 70.
IT will be a interesting wait. Now we wait good luck on your venture. I really do hope they come down for you.
Not yet .. Last Week, my dealer friend got the most calls about a Mint product ... since the 2006 Anniv sets
He Sold 3 PCGS Palladium 1st Strike 70s ..$ 2,150
I think it's the most beautiful coin since the UHR.
Oh yeah, Raufus!
Brings back good memories. It’s been a long wait for something this stunning.
Congratulations to those they got theirs. I am happy with mine.
It's been 8 years, has the UHR come down a lot in price? Oh, and there's less palladium to go around too...
I bought 11 more I'm still sick and a hoarder.
Hoard the keys.
I can help you just send me your stock I will hold it for you!
If the 15,000 mintage holds, these will become (arguably already are) one of the most sought-after American coins of the last 50 years. Their mintage is a tiny fraction of the UHR (to which I think they are most closely related), or the first year releases for the gold eagle, the silver eagle, the platinum eagle.
These are very cool, and I can see demand from outside of the "normal" domestic numismatic community.
There are 300,000,000 Americans. Only one in 20,000 Americans can own one of these. Ever. Only 300 people in each state. And I believe these will have more than a passing interest in many foreign countries as well. Europe, Asia, India will all have at least some interest. If even 1/4 of these go overseas, then the number of Americans who can own one drops to around 200 in each state or fewer than one in 25,000.
--Severian the Lame
But they will be making more every year.
And you can pick up a nice, ms65 1922 peace for a few bucks.
--Severian the Lame
Do you think there are 300 collectors in each state? If you consider many have bought 2 or more, that would mean there are only 150 - 200 for each state. If you are a collector of PCGS MS70's there are only 2,403 to go around at this time. That leaves 48 measly coins in PCGS 70 grade for each state. IMO, I think the price will hold up well on these.
Contemplating if I should go ahead because the beauty had captured my heart?
This is the way I look at it. This year has a stand alone coin, It's the 2017 Palladium eagle with a mintage of 15,000 units so only 15,000 sets can be made from her on out. Do I think it's a $10k coin No but a $3k to $5k Yes.
Just like the 95W that is a one year low minted coin and not the only proof eagle made does well this coin will do the same.
Did they make others after that? Yes but not the 95W and how much is that coin in a 69 or 70? The 1st year and low mintage is the "KEY" and this coin is one of the lowest minted coins in the eagle series so far. I think it's a WINNER. But that's just me DUMB Type2 thinking.
I'm in $300 over melt if it go's south to spot will it kill me No but if it go's north to $3k or $5k that will eat me up knowing I had the chance and did not act.
1st year low mintage "Key"
Low mintage "Key" What will you pay for a "Key" coin?
Opportunity, Opportunity, Opportunity That's it knocking are you going to answer?
Hoard the keys.
3 of the FS Flags available at APMEX: shield your eyes from the pricing to protect from damage.
Types nicely stated thank you.
$1862.00 to $1939.00 they will be sold before the day is over or within the hour.
MCM has more listed......hhhmmmm
Yup, MCM has NGC; I prefer the host.
I've seen both in hand and I agree.
Looks like MCM lied.
I paid $1650.00 for the black flag one would I buy this one? Well right now I don't need to so I will pass.
Paradise.found this post is for you are you going to jump on it?
Why on earth would I pay $1,862.00 When Ebay has it for US $1,631.55!!!!!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-American-Palladium-Eagle-1-oz-25-PCGS-MS70-First-Strike/302497772410?_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIM.MBE&ao=1&asc=20140131123730&meid=c326d96eb68d42c8a47b9ae7cd6a0531&pid=100167&rk=5&rkt=15&sd=401423918956&_trksid=p5411.c100167.m2940
That's an auction, am im sure it will go higher than current price.
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If the Mint continues on into 2018, the mintage may be closer to 50,000. Then there's the W proof, W uncirculated and fractionals to consider. The Mint loves a winner and never ceases to exploit.
Bruce Post Ohhhhhhhhh Sorry!!!!!
Oooops
Kind of crazy you cant get a raw one but they have a lot of graded ones. I think the mint should look in to the price gouging before they do this again. By just releasing them to dealers 1st is like shooting fish in a barrel one thing me and you are the fish. There will be some raw one's soon after they get returned for not getting the grade, Watch this week or next week will be the time to let them go.
Hoard the keys.
Interesting I think your right and that would be low! I might have to call a MCM sale's person and interrogate them. Of course they have their sister company that they can pawn them off on!
There are some raw ones on eBay for around $1500.
https://ebay.com/itm/2017-1-oz-Palladium-American-Eagle-25-Coin-BU/162675269189?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D735e4b74e0284425a89f46d4faa20b88%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dlo%26sd%3D112608173531&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
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Plenty of raw ones to be had. Not sure where you are getting your info that there isn't.
I guess it's no longer the golden rule it's the Palladium rule now. He who has the Palladium makes the rule's.
That eBay auction is so they can keep selling for a higher price, I'm saying why don't they have them on there site like spot + 20% over or 30% I know why and you know why but that is why the mint needs to sell to the open market when it's limited if the shoe was on the other foot you bet there would be some hell to pay. All the big dealers would be calling the mint asking why did they just sell to the collectors. That is why the mint said we will come out with them next year in PR, SP but the MS will be at the bullion distributor again. Just me DUMB Type2 blowing steam.
Hoard the keys.
If you remember, there was a debacle when the 5oz pucks first came out. Price gauging and other shenanigans. The mint had to step in and institute rules and profit restrictions on the Authorized Purchasers. APMEX was one of them. They still played games with slabbed examples. I continue to have a bad taste in my mouth about them.