@abcde12345 said:
How about with Lincoln facing the other direction (like on the nickel)?
Technically that is possible, but it would not work very well when over-striking existing Lincoln cents because the bust would not line up with the host coin well at all.
I have a fantasy-date Lincoln cent in mind that will be of interest. I plan to come out with it some time this year.
Is there a secrect discount code for that check out box? I ordered some things the other day and saw that little box on check out. I have wondered ever since. I tried "dancarriscool" but it didn't work.
@Aspie_Rocco said:
Is there a secrect discount code for that check out box? I ordered some things the other day and saw that little box on check out. I have wondered ever since. I tried "dancarriscool" but it didn't work.
Good try
But I've never actually issued any discount codes.
@abcde12345 said:
How about a 1909 S "VDB" but make the "VDB" VBD"?
That is a rather small change from an existing coin, so I would not do that.
I do have a Lincoln Cent item in mind, however, but it is a fantasy date piece.
what would VBD mean anyway?
hypothetically speaking, it makes more sense to go B, V . D.
@abcde12345 said:
How about with Lincoln facing the other direction (like on the nickel)?
Technically that is possible, but it would not work very well when over-striking existing Lincoln cents because the bust would not line up with the host coin well at all.
I have a fantasy-date Lincoln cent in mind that will be of interest. I plan to come out with it some time this year.
Since Lincoln Cents have been issued every year since their introduction in 1909, will be interesting to see what fantasy date you have in mind that will be of interest.
I thought a 1909-D V.D.B. cent and a 1909-O V.D.B. cent would have been fun to issue, but I know Dan mentioned before he is avoiding dates where the coins have been issued and just changing a mintmark isn't enough of a change.
There was a 1959 Wheat Cent in a Goldberg auction not too long ago... questionable authenticity on that one as it was not certified and was being sold as-is. Because of that being out there and because there are 1959 Lincoln Memorial Cents that do exist, not sure a 1959 Wheat Cent overstrike is on the way.
6) And then there are the 2009 centennial reverses in bronze and zinc that could optionally be included.
I have identified these that I may do as "fantasy-date over-strikes" at some point:
2) "1942-P" steel wheat with large "P" mint mark similar to "War" nickels.
3) "2010", maybe using the obverse hub style of 1959.
4) "2010", maybe using the obverse hub style of 1969.
5) "2110" ?
6) "2009-S VDB" using the original 1909 obverse and reverse hub styles [in bronze].
But before any of these, I want to do the early bronze wheat type.
I recently purchased this: ebay.com/itm/112326387163
These are scarce but not impossible to find. A number of them were produced by Brenner in 1907 to 1909, before this basic sculpture was used on the 1909 Lincoln Cent. The facial detail appears to be better than the issued coins. The large bronze plaques have some other differences from the issued coins in regards to the bowtie and jacket details. The plaque is marked "Copyright 1907". My plan is to make "1907-VDB" over-strikes using the original bust sculpture as issued by Brenner in 1907. This process would be similar to how I used the Broken Sword Peace Dollar reverse bronze casting to make Peace Dollar over-strikes with the detail and relief that was originally intended by the artist (De Francisci).
@dcarr Great idea and use of the original VDB sculpture. It might be cool to make some larger dollar/ silver ounce sized medals too, similar to your Broken Sword 1oz medals.
I think Zoins idea about also making a larger silver version medal is an excellent one and perhaps some could even be struck over a 2009 Lincoln Commemorative Dollar.
@1940coupe said:
I guess after you make Lincoln penny that just leaves Jefferson nickel ?
From Dan's previous post, it seems there are quite a few to go including 18th and 19th century coins as well as gold.
In an earlier post he mentioned, "My ultimate goal was to eventually produce an entire fantasy-date over-strike type set." along with a discussion of Capped Bust gold $10.
As his pieces gain in popularity, it may become more viable to strike the more expensive pieces.
@1940coupe said:
I guess after you make Lincoln penny that just leaves Jefferson nickel ?
From Dan's previous post, it seems there are quite a few to go including 18th and 19th century coins as well as gold.
In an earlier post he mentioned, "My ultimate goal was to eventually produce an entire fantasy-date over-strike type set." along with a discussion of Capped Bust gold $10.
As his pieces gain in popularity, it may become more viable to strike the more expensive pieces.
Sorry should have said for 20th century silver and copper coins !
I've got nothing to add other than to say I dropped off 28 Carr creations for grading with ANACS at the Tukwilla show this weekend.
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I received some coins back from ANACS, and some do not match the 'die pair' label that came with the coins. They labeled the 1964-D Morgan proofs as die pair 1 (the proofs used die pair 2). I emailed them about that issue.
The ANACS labels for some 1909-O Morgans also do not match the labels that came with the coins (I bought the 1909-Os off Ebay and then submitted to ANACS). It's entirely possible ANACS is correct for the 1909-Os (and the labels were swapped before I bought them), so I thought I'd ask here.
Here are some photos pf 1909-O Morgan proof like to illustrate (I have the same issue for two of the satins as well). One had a 'die pair 1' insert, the other was 'die pair 2'. Both show as Die pair 2 on the ANACS slab.
@felinfoel said:
I have a question for the Carr experts:
I received some coins back from ANACS, and some do not match the 'die pair' label that came with the coins. They labeled the 1964-D Morgan proofs as die pair 1 (the proofs used die pair 2). I emailed them about that issue.
The ANACS labels for some 1909-O Morgans also do not match the labels that came with the coins (I bought the 1909-Os off Ebay and then submitted to ANACS). It's entirely possible ANACS is correct for the 1909-Os (and the labels were swapped before I bought them), so I thought I'd ask here.
Here are some photos pf 1909-O Morgan proof like to illustrate (I have the same issue for two of the satins as well). One had a 'die pair 1' insert, the other was 'die pair 2'. Both show as Die pair 2 on the ANACS slab.
Coin 1:
Coin 2:
Carr inserts:
When I send them in I copy the label that comes with each token and include them with my submission.
@felinfoel said:
I have a question for the Carr experts:
I received some coins back from ANACS, and some do not match the 'die pair' label that came with the coins. They labeled the 1964-D Morgan proofs as die pair 1 (the proofs used die pair 2). I emailed them about that issue.
The ANACS labels for some 1909-O Morgans also do not match the labels that came with the coins (I bought the 1909-Os off Ebay and then submitted to ANACS). It's entirely possible ANACS is correct for the 1909-Os (and the labels were swapped before I bought them), so I thought I'd ask here.
Here are some photos pf 1909-O Morgan proof like to illustrate (I have the same issue for two of the satins as well). One had a 'die pair 1' insert, the other was 'die pair 2'. Both show as Die pair 2 on the ANACS slab.
My 2016 PL Clark & Gruber 1/4 oz 24k Colorado Gold arrived today in a well packed box.
My first DC Colorado 24k gold piece.
I needed this piece to complete my little set of MMOH 2016 issues as I thought it was related. I hope its the same die.
Daniel, is this 2016 22mm PL Gold Obverse Die same as you used on your 2016 PL MMOH overstrikes / counterstrikes ?
Comments
Perhaps just remove the "VDB" altogether.
1909 Lincoln Cents without "VDB" were issued by the US Mint.
So, no on that one as well.
How about with Lincoln facing the other direction (like on the nickel)?
Technically that is possible, but it would not work very well when over-striking existing Lincoln cents because the bust would not line up with the host coin well at all.
I have a fantasy-date Lincoln cent in mind that will be of interest. I plan to come out with it some time this year.
Is there a secrect discount code for that check out box? I ordered some things the other day and saw that little box on check out. I have wondered ever since. I tried "dancarriscool" but it didn't work.
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
Good try
But I've never actually issued any discount codes.
what would VBD mean anyway?
hypothetically speaking, it makes more sense to go B, V . D.
Would be cooler still to have Dan put his OWN 3 initials there! (Assuming he has a middle name.)
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I just kidding but how about he has a auction and the winner gets there initials put on it LOL want a honor
Since Lincoln Cents have been issued every year since their introduction in 1909, will be interesting to see what fantasy date you have in mind that will be of interest.
I thought a 1909-D V.D.B. cent and a 1909-O V.D.B. cent would have been fun to issue, but I know Dan mentioned before he is avoiding dates where the coins have been issued and just changing a mintmark isn't enough of a change.
We'll see
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How about where the 1909-S VDB is printed on the reverse of the penny and the reverse is then printed on the front?
1959 wheatie?
Well, just Love coins, period.
I like it Jag, plus my birth year
How about a 1909 DJC ?? Or 1908 DJC
Or maybe something over struck on a 43 Steelie could be interesting.
I'd like to see a redo of the 2009 (the set) lincolns as steelies only in silver
(l8-)>>
or in palladium and proof like
(l8-)>>
in a mahogany crate with numbered COAs...... just kidding about the last part.
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That's my 1st guess too. Nice 50th tribute.
Or maybe a 4-coin set like 2009.
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A mormon made a 59 wheatback penny and is now in prison.
1974 steel cent?
would it need re-plating before striking?
Since we're guessing I'll go out on a limb and say a 2017 with P mint mark but with memorial reverse
There was a 1959 Wheat Cent in a Goldberg auction not too long ago... questionable authenticity on that one as it was not certified and was being sold as-is. Because of that being out there and because there are 1959 Lincoln Memorial Cents that do exist, not sure a 1959 Wheat Cent overstrike is on the way.
Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 448
And here's the PCGS article on the 1959-D Wheat Cent for anyone not familiar with this one:
https://pcgs.com/News/The-Mystery-Of-The-1959-d-Mule-Lincoln-Cent
Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 448
I think he will make a 1942 steel penny (overstruck 1943) with large P on back like he said
A complete Lincoln cent type set includes at least five coins:
1) Bronze wheat;
2) Steel wheat;
3) Bronze memorial;
4) Zinc memorial;
5) Zinc shield.
6) And then there are the 2009 centennial reverses in bronze and zinc that could optionally be included.
I have identified these that I may do as "fantasy-date over-strikes" at some point:
2) "1942-P" steel wheat with large "P" mint mark similar to "War" nickels.
3) "2010", maybe using the obverse hub style of 1959.
4) "2010", maybe using the obverse hub style of 1969.
5) "2110" ?
6) "2009-S VDB" using the original 1909 obverse and reverse hub styles [in bronze].
But before any of these, I want to do the early bronze wheat type.
I recently purchased this: ebay.com/itm/112326387163
These are scarce but not impossible to find. A number of them were produced by Brenner in 1907 to 1909, before this basic sculpture was used on the 1909 Lincoln Cent. The facial detail appears to be better than the issued coins. The large bronze plaques have some other differences from the issued coins in regards to the bowtie and jacket details. The plaque is marked "Copyright 1907". My plan is to make "1907-VDB" over-strikes using the original bust sculpture as issued by Brenner in 1907. This process would be similar to how I used the Broken Sword Peace Dollar reverse bronze casting to make Peace Dollar over-strikes with the detail and relief that was originally intended by the artist (De Francisci).
Sold
Wow!!! A 1907-VDB Lincoln based on an original sculpture.
That's better than any fantasy cent I imagined.
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@dcarr Great idea and use of the original VDB sculpture. It might be cool to make some larger dollar/ silver ounce sized medals too, similar to your Broken Sword 1oz medals.
Yeah. He's a crafty guy. I knew none of us had it but I didn't expect that. I'm in.
I think Zoins idea about also making a larger silver version medal is an excellent one and perhaps some could even be struck over a 2009 Lincoln Commemorative Dollar.
The possibilities are absolutely endless.......
Didnt think I would be interested in Lincoln penny ! but want one these pennies for sure !
Where do you put the second period?
there
From Dan's previous post, it seems there are quite a few to go including 18th and 19th century coins as well as gold.
In an earlier post he mentioned, "My ultimate goal was to eventually produce an entire fantasy-date over-strike type set." along with a discussion of Capped Bust gold $10.
As his pieces gain in popularity, it may become more viable to strike the more expensive pieces.
I agree with Zoins and Voyageur.....except....use the bronze bust as the model, wheat back just like the original......on a Peace dollar over strike.
Sorry should have said for 20th century silver and copper coins !
I've got nothing to add other than to say I dropped off 28 Carr creations for grading with ANACS at the Tukwilla show this weekend.
what does this mean please explain ?
fun question
Newps. First time Carr buyer and happy
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
I have a question for the Carr experts:
I received some coins back from ANACS, and some do not match the 'die pair' label that came with the coins. They labeled the 1964-D Morgan proofs as die pair 1 (the proofs used die pair 2). I emailed them about that issue.
The ANACS labels for some 1909-O Morgans also do not match the labels that came with the coins (I bought the 1909-Os off Ebay and then submitted to ANACS). It's entirely possible ANACS is correct for the 1909-Os (and the labels were swapped before I bought them), so I thought I'd ask here.
Here are some photos pf 1909-O Morgan proof like to illustrate (I have the same issue for two of the satins as well). One had a 'die pair 1' insert, the other was 'die pair 2'. Both show as Die pair 2 on the ANACS slab.
Coin 1:
Coin 2:
Carr inserts:
When I send them in I copy the label that comes with each token and include them with my submission.
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sorry wrong guy
cant tell by your picture but die 1 has closed nines and die 2 has open nines he shows difference on web site http://www.moonlightmint.com/blog_6.htm
Here's a close-up of the dates.
Coin 1:
Coin 2:
coin one looks like die 1 closed 9 and coin 2 looks like die 2 open 9 but click on link and see for yourself it has pictures
great picture Weiss
I was going to post it as a "guess the grade" thread
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This sexy nugget arrived today
My 2016 PL Clark & Gruber 1/4 oz 24k Colorado Gold arrived today in a well packed box.
My first DC Colorado 24k gold piece.
I needed this piece to complete my little set of MMOH 2016 issues as I thought it was related. I hope its the same die.
Daniel, is this 2016 22mm PL Gold Obverse Die same as you used on your 2016 PL MMOH overstrikes / counterstrikes ?
Lindy