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  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @philographer

    Great example, and it looks very very nice in the PCGS plastic.

    Did you request a solid gasket over the edge view one?

    Personally I like the solid gasket better.

    It's all about what the people want...

  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun

    Excellent group! Your coin Cabinet is like the land of mystery and forgotten treasures. Items placed in it to be later rediscovered, Subtly toned, and brought out to delight the senses once again.

    Thanks for sharing…

    It's all about what the people want...

  • philographerphilographer Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LukeMarshall said:
    @philographer

    Great example, and it looks very very nice in the PCGS plastic.

    Did you request a solid gasket over the edge view one?

    Personally I like the solid gasket better.

    It came with the gasket. I actually prefer the prongs. I looked on eBay, it seems like the 2021 ASEs are also in gaskets. ASEs are 40.6 mm, this is 38mm. So maybe bigger coins get the gasket.

    He who knows he has enough is rich.

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,726 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LukeMarshall said:
    @coinsarefun

    Excellent group! Your coin Cabinet is like the land of mystery and forgotten treasures. Items placed in it to be later rediscovered, Subtly toned, and brought out to delight the senses once again.

    Thanks for sharing…

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    Thanks, I really do enjoy bringing the cabinets and trays out and looking.
    Such a variety with some toned others not.
    And no slabs, if I want to pick it up and hold it, I can. Very enjoyable

  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @philographer said:

    @LukeMarshall said:
    @philographer

    Great example, and it looks very very nice in the PCGS plastic.

    Did you request a solid gasket over the edge view one?

    Personally I like the solid gasket better.

    It came with the gasket. I actually prefer the prongs. I looked on eBay, it seems like the 2021 ASEs are also in gaskets. ASEs are 40.6 mm, this is 38mm. So maybe bigger coins get the gasket.

    I believe I’ve heard people say you can request either the prong gasket or the solid. Not sure what triggers the decision if you don’t request a specific one, as I though they all came with prong holders by default now-a-days (but apparently not!)

    It's all about what the people want...

  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:

    @LukeMarshall said:
    @coinsarefun

    Excellent group! Your coin Cabinet is like the land of mystery and forgotten treasures. Items placed in it to be later rediscovered, Subtly toned, and brought out to delight the senses once again.

    Thanks for sharing…

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    Thanks, I really do enjoy bringing the cabinets and trays out and looking.
    Such a variety with some toned others not.
    And no slabs, if I want to pick it up and hold it, I can. Very enjoyable

    Similarly I’ve got into the pocket piece thing, and there is something Visceral about holding the coins in your hand.

    Alas as with life you have to take the good with the bad so I have to remember to keep “pocket pieces” in the pocket as much as possible. On a few occasions I’ve had them in the hand and accidentally dropped them for that not so good feel…

    It's all about what the people want...

  • NickpattonNickpatton Posts: 383 ✭✭✭✭

    @Akbeez said:

    Now you done it‼️‼️👀‼️‼️👍👍👍🎯‼️‼️‼️That’s too Kool ‼️‼️👍👍‼️‼️‼️

  • NickpattonNickpatton Posts: 383 ✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:
    I was going through my coin cabinet and safe tonight and forgot I had these. Decided to image them just to keep track of them. Hope you like them.....

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    Very kool ‼️‼️👀‼️‼️👍👍👍👍

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @philographer said:
    I posted this in another thread (the one on my Dan Carr 1964 Peace Dollars being graded last year), but wanted to post here also for anyone else who might be interested...

    My Dan Carr 2007 Seated Liberty 20 Trade Dollar token was just graded by PCGS. Trueviews have not yet come up, but my photo is below:

    I'm happy this grading experiment turned out as it did. :)

    Nice.
    But why no "PR", or "DMPL", or even "PL" ?
    I also produced a brilliant satin version of that item that is definitely not PL.
    The Krause "Unusual World Coins" catalog (6th edition) only lists a "BU" version of it and no "proof" issue.
    So that is probably the reason.

    This, however, illustrates how my own catalog of issues would be a better source guide.
    See the very last section at the bottom of this page:
    http://www.moonlightmint.com/dc-coin_alt_currency_list.htmmoonlightmint.com/dc-coin_alt_currency_list.htm

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,439 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, I am not sure why they adhere to that particular volume that is now about ELEVEN years old now. There are not other replacements and it is a starting point but when there is one type listed but we know there are other types of strikes or metals of that same coin, why not bend just a bit? Patina/Spink/INA issues are in the same boat.

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • NickpattonNickpatton Posts: 383 ✭✭✭✭

    @ZoidMeister said:

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    @ZoidMeister said:

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    @Akbeez said:
    Love your colors on this piece! Here’s another variant — 2017 antiqued:e

    That one’s rarer than the one I posted....... and I don’t have one‼️‼️‼️
    You always have the koolest pieces‼️‼️🎯👍👍👍👀
    Love it ‼️‼️👍‼️🎯🎯‼️‼️

  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Nickpatton

    A little something I found in one of my boxes. Look closely and you will see four strikes.

    1. The original host coin.
    2. Off center left
    3. Low center
    4. Off center right

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    Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!

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  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really like the finish on this one. Antiqued brass, #11 of 14 minted.

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    Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!

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  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 24, 2022 3:04AM

    I'm not sure if Jeff Shevlin made more than one of these silver select Wilson reverse gathering medals with the gold gilt on both sides, but it's the only one I've seen.

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    Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 24, 2022 8:29AM

    I wanted to give everyone an update on the following:

    1. Dan Carr Print Catalog: This is making progress but is slower than I'd like given my day job. I have a good database schema now that I've used with 10+ coins so it works well, but I'm working on making it more generic which require some database architecture design.
    2. Dan Carr Minting Society: This is on hold from my perspective now. After asking others to propose topics/talks and not getting responses, I need to adjust my thoughts on how to make this successful. Jeff Shevlin worked with Dan on the Wilson Dollar pieces above, and also published the So-Called Dollar Collectors' Club Journal below. It was a lot of work, but he didn't get a lot of contributors so he ended up publishing only a single issue. I'd like to avoid a similar situation.

    http://www.so-calleddollar.com/wp-content/themes/scdollar/assets/pdf/55551_SoCalledBookletLOW.pdf

  • NickpattonNickpatton Posts: 383 ✭✭✭✭

    @ZoidMeister said:
    @Nickpatton

    A little something I found in one of my boxes. Look closely and you will see four strikes.

    1. The original host coin.
    2. Off center left
    3. Low center
    4. Off center right

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    Alright now these are so Kool ‼️‼️🎯👍👍👀
    Where are y’all gittin’ these from ,and what I’m a doin’ wrong⁉️⁉️‼️‼️‼️🎯🎯👀‼️‼️‼️‼️> @ZoidMeister said:

    I'm not sure if Jeff Shevlin made more than one of these silver select Wilson reverse gathering medals with the gold gilt on both sides, but it's the only one I've seen.

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  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A bit more eye candy for @Nickpatton.

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    Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!

    Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?

  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:
    Damnnnnn I should’ve opened my purse strings for the 1801 dollar! I’m beyond jealous

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    I figured that would get some adrenaline flowing.

    I must go post these "elsewhere."

    I don't think I've done that yet.

    Z

    Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!

    Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?

  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Two new items to watch for at a the "Distributor". As with the half dollars done late last year, these look amazing.


  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,439 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Distributors? Usually with crazy prices I would guess??

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • SPalladinoSPalladino Posts: 868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pcgscacgold said:
    Two new items to watch for at a the "Distributor".

    Great pick-up! Any idea who that "distributor" might be?

    Steve Palladino
    - Ike Group member
    - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SPalladino said:

    @pcgscacgold said:
    Two new items to watch for at a the "Distributor".

    Great pick-up! Any idea who that "distributor" might be?

    No. I watched "The Chopper's" site for the December halves that DC did and they never showed up. There must be another guy buying and selling. Hopefully someone will tell us where these are being sold. There are 500 of the one so they have to show up somewhere.

  • COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭✭✭

    .> @pcgscacgold said:

    Two new items to watch for at a the "Distributor". As with the half dollars done late last year, these look amazing.

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    Agreed, they look great. But if the Distributor doesn't price 'em affordably, I'm out.

    Also, I'm hoping Dan will produce & sell CENTERED Peace versions with various finishes. I'd love one with a matte finish, maybe a circulated version too.

    Successful BST transactions with forum members thebigeng, SPalladino, Zoidmeister, coin22lover, coinsarefun, jwitten, CommemKing.

  • SPalladinoSPalladino Posts: 868 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2022 2:05PM

    @COCollector said:
    Also, I'm hoping Dan will produce & sell CENTERED Peace versions with various finishes. I'd love one with a matte finish, maybe a circulated version too.

    Well, we now know that Dan has a production-ready1922 obverse die. ;)

    Steve Palladino
    - Ike Group member
    - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 25, 2022 5:08PM

    So the engraving is off center not struck off center?
    I suppose that keeps the issue uniform from piece to piece.

    Many happy BST transactions
  • Mr Lindy Mr Lindy Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 26, 2022 4:37AM

    Here's the other intentionally made off center obverse die.
    Last time it was offered it did not sell for $200.
    ANACS misdescribed it as misaligned die.
    It is not misaligned; it is not an error.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/265553228695?hash=item3dd434b397:g:diMAAOSwwIxhy0k0

    @pcgscacgold said:

    @LindyS said:
    Whew !

    I almost closed this fleabay offer.

    Then I looked up production info at Moonlight Mint.

    I found 700 fantasy errors produced that are exactly same:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/265484632901

    I believe these are around $240 on CCN through the Chopper.

  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That one is available on The Choppers CCN site for $239. It is also described as misaligned there. DC calls it an off-center obverse engraving. If the person sent in the insert it would have been correct. He bought over 1100 of them for resale.

    @LindyS said:
    Here's the other intentionally made off center obverse die.
    Last time it was offered it did not sell for $200.
    ANACS misdescribed it as misaligned die.
    It is not misaligned; it is not an error.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/265553228695?hash=item3dd434b397:g:diMAAOSwwIxhy0k0

    @pcgscacgold said:

    @LindyS said:
    Whew !

    I almost closed this fleabay offer.

    Then I looked up production info at Moonlight Mint.

    I found 700 fantasy errors produced that are exactly same:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/265484632901

    I believe these are around $240 on CCN through the Chopper.

  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For the KOTCT fans.

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    Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!

    Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?

  • NickpattonNickpatton Posts: 383 ✭✭✭✭

    @ZoidMeister said:
    For the KOTCT fans.

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    Too Kool ‼️👍🎯‼️‼️Tell us a little more...... was there any cash value ( were the used for trade between KOTCT members), or just kool to have........ and pleeze don’t tell me, Go ask Alice‼️‼️‼️🎯🎯🎯👍‼️‼️‼️‼️✌️

  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,610 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 28, 2022 3:00PM

    Bought this 2011 Hard Times Token on 2-22-22 from a forum member, came in today.
    Really pleased with this piece, don't see them around very often.

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    Photo later.

  • SPalladinoSPalladino Posts: 868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bullsitter said:
    Bought this 2011 Hard Times Token on 2-22-22 from a forum member, came in today.
    Really pleased with this piece, don't see them around very often.

    I love the color!

    Steve Palladino
    - Ike Group member
    - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bullsitter said:
    Bought this 2011 Hard Times Token on 2-22-22 from a forum member, came in today.
    Really pleased with this piece, don't see them around very often.

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    Photo later.

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    You know where to send it when you grow tired of it . . . .right?

    Z

    Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!

    Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?

  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Nickpatton said:

    @ZoidMeister said:
    For the KOTCT fans.

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    Too Kool ‼️👍🎯‼️‼️Tell us a little more...... was there any cash value ( were the used for trade between KOTCT members), or just kool to have........ and pleeze don’t tell me, Go ask Alice‼️‼️‼️🎯🎯🎯👍‼️‼️‼️‼️✌️

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    I ran across those poking around the KOTCT Castle. I dug around, asked a few questions, and was offered a set.

    It's been over a year since I picked them up. Pre-Covid IIRC . . .

    Z

    Busy chasing Carr's . . . . . woof!

    Successful BST transactions with: Bullsitter, Downtown1974, P0CKETCHANGE, Twobitcollector, AKbeez, DCW, Illini420, ProofCollection, DCarr, Cazkaboom, RichieURich, LukeMarshall, carew4me, BustDMs, coinsarefun, PreTurb, felinfoal, jwitten, GoldenEgg, pruebas, lazybones, COCollector, CuKevin, MWallace, USMC_6115, NamVet69, zippcity, . . . . who'd I forget?

  • NickpattonNickpatton Posts: 383 ✭✭✭✭

    @ZoidMeister said:

    @Nickpatton said:

    @ZoidMeister said:
    For the KOTCT fans.

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    Too Kool ‼️👍🎯‼️‼️Tell us a little more...... was there any cash value ( were the used for trade between KOTCT members), or just kool to have........ and pleeze don’t tell me, Go ask Alice‼️‼️‼️🎯🎯🎯👍‼️‼️‼️‼️✌️

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    I ran across those poking around the KOTCT Castle. I dug around, asked a few questions, and was offered a set.

    It's been over a year since I picked them up. Pre-Covid IIRC . . .

    Z

    Love them......... but I don’t think you’re busy chasing Carrs............... I think you’re busy “CATCHING “ Carrs‼️‼️‼️🎯🎯🎯🎯👀‼️‼️‼️👍🎯🎯🎯🎯‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ZoidMeister said:

    @Nickpatton said:

    @ZoidMeister said:
    For the KOTCT fans.

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    Too Kool ‼️👍🎯‼️‼️Tell us a little more...... was there any cash value ( were the used for trade between KOTCT members), or just kool to have........ and pleeze don’t tell me, Go ask Alice‼️‼️‼️🎯🎯🎯👍‼️‼️‼️‼️✌️

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    I ran across those poking around the KOTCT Castle. I dug around, asked a few questions, and was offered a set.

    It's been over a year since I picked them up. Pre-Covid IIRC . . .

    Z

    Nice set! I asked about them some time ago at KotCT, they did not materialize.

    oih82w8 = Oh I Hate To Wait _defectus patientia_aka...Dr. Defecto - Curator of RMO's

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  • SPalladinoSPalladino Posts: 868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @philographer said:
    Images posted today...

    Nice!!!
    Looks like a proof-like finish, but was given MS69. I'm guessing that any PCGS-attributable Moonlight Mint product would not get a proof or proof-like designation?

    Steve Palladino
    - Ike Group member
    - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
  • robecrobec Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SPalladino said:

    @philographer said:
    Images posted today...

    Nice!!!
    Looks like a proof-like finish, but was given MS69. I'm guessing that any PCGS-attributable Moonlight Mint product would not get a proof or proof-like designation?

    On the 1964-D Peace dollars one was given Proof designation and the other a PL.


  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Will pcgs slab any Carr issue? I have a few I would love to see in PCGS plastic!

  • robecrobec Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aspie_Rocco said:
    Will pcgs slab any Carr issue? I have a few I would love to see in PCGS plastic!

    I think they will slab any Carr issue that appears in Krause’s Unusual World Coins 6th Edition.

  • Mr Lindy Mr Lindy Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, just the Carr items listed in this book

    @Aspie_Rocco said:
    Will pcgs slab any Carr issue? I have a few I would love to see in PCGS plastic!

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,192 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The problem with using the sixth edition, which is the most recent edition if I recall correctly, is that it had a publication date of 2011. Therefore, the pieces in question would have had to not only been produced prior to the 2011 publication, but would also have had to have been incorporated into that edition. That excludes from current PCGS certification an enormous number of issues from various sources.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

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  • philographerphilographer Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LindyS said:
    No, just the Carr items listed in this book

    @Aspie_Rocco said:
    Will pcgs slab any Carr issue? I have a few I would love to see in PCGS plastic!

    Also FYI they have to be from the United States section…there are other tokens in the book by Carr that are not designated “US”

    He who knows he has enough is rich.

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