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Well.... Things have become quite complicated.... Not sure the Huskies will survive and make the PAC12 championship game if they don't beat the Cougars. A PAC12 team may not make it. Further, things are messy in the BIG10 with the UM loss to Iowa. The thought of Penn State playing in the Champion game would not be helpful.
And then we have the Clemson home loss to Pitt.
This is shaping up in a manor that is going to disappoint in that the best teams just may not make the playoffs.
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Well, the pressure finally took its toll, but there's lots of football to be played. Some good games next week include Michigan vs Indiana, OSU vs Michigan State and Washington vs Arizona State. Michigan has to beat Indiana to keep their hopes alive. Same with OSU, they have to beat MSU, and we all know what happened last year. Washington has to win out, period. That's what I like about the playoff, every game is a playoff game. Just lose one if you think they aren't.
I have no idea how the TOP 4 will be ranked but I'll take a stab at it:
Could Clemson remain in the top four? Could OSU climb to #2, win out, but not play in the BIG Championship game? Would the committee take two BIG teams? Would they drop OSU from #2 to spectators? Would they take OSU to the Playoffs but not the BIG Champion? Stay tuned.
Strange to see that the teams from the PAC 12 in the top 25 are Washington, Washington State, Utah, Colorado and USC. Oregon, Stanford and UCLA are missing.
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you have got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wake up to go to a coin show, only to learn that 2-3-4 have all lost???????????? that is just too hard to wrap my head around right now. with the way it looks now the Big 10 will be top heavy in the Poll which presents some real problems in the room for the voting committee.
I see the Top four this way:
Alabama
Ohio State
Louisville
Clemson...............
.....................with Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin not far away.
Michigans starting QB out for the season with a separated shoulder. Penn St rejoices.
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@Justacommeman said:
Michigans starting QB out for the season with a separated shoulder. Penn St rejoices.
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If Penn St. wins out (very likely) and OSU beats Michigan to end the year, then Penn St. goes to the Big Ten championship game against most likely Wisconsin. How does the Committee keep the winner of that game out of the CFP? Wisconsin almost has to be included in that scenario and with Penn St. beating OSU, it would be hard to put them behind OSU in the rankings.
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@Justacommeman said:
Michigans starting QB out for the season with a separated shoulder. Penn St rejoices.
mark
If Penn St. wins out (very likely) and OSU beats Michigan to end the year, then Penn St. goes to the Big Ten championship game against most likely Wisconsin. How does the Committee keep the winner of that game out of the CFP? Wisconsin almost has to be included in that scenario and with Penn St. beating OSU, it would be hard to put them behind OSU in the rankings.
I know. We are all going to find out together. You also have Clemson and Louisville putting the committee in a possible pickle. Both of them might have one loss and if that's the case Louisville doesn't play in the ACC Championshio Game. They watch at 11-1. Same as OSU. Wild
At this point we can say Alabama is in no matter what.
That leaves three spots up for grabs. Let's say PSU gets to the Championship Game against Wisconsin which is very likely. What do you do with the winner?
Clemson, Alabama, OSU, Louisville? Leaving the Big Ten Champion out? This isn't even factoring in if Washington wins out.
Or do you go Alabama, OSU, Penn State/ Wisconsin winner and Clemson? This leaves Louisville.
The wild card is if somehow Michigan beats OSU.
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if Ohio State, Penn State and Wisconsin all win-out it will leave 2-two loss Teams and 1-one loss Team, presenting a tough choice which will be simplified with the Big 10 Championship. if the Buckeyes end the season at 11-2 sitting at #2 it will be hard to keep them out of the playoff and probably result in a large Big 10 school being very mad.
The CFP committee has said multiple times the last few years that they consider conference championships and head to head matchups to be very influential in decision making. We will see this year if they actually mean that.
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The CFP committee has said multiple times the last few years........................
the Proof of the wisdom is in the result of the choice. in 2014 many were upset that OSU got in but I doubt anyone would argue with that choice today. in 2015 Iowa made it in and it was probably a bad choice given the result.
@keets said: The CFP committee has said multiple times the last few years........................
the Proof of the wisdom is in the result of the choice. in 2014 many were upset that OSU got in but I doubt anyone would argue with that choice today. in 2015 Iowa made it in and it was probably a bad choice given the result.
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In 2014 OSU won the Big Ten Championship Game. This year this likely won't even be playing in it. Last year Iowa didnt make it in the CF playoffs and rightfully so. In 2014 and 2015 the winner of the Big Ten Championship Game made it in. This year it's likely to be Wisc vs Penn ST. Your point actually supports Oriole93's stance
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Mark, my only point was (supposed to be) that everyone felt TCU was the better Team and the right choice, but OSU got in. by extension, this year they will also probably think that Penn State or Wisconsin is the better Team(by virtue of the Big 10 Championship). I'm only saying that I think OSU is a better Team and would offer a better opponent for whoever #2 would play.
this all pre-supposes that the three Teams will continue to win.
Gotcha now I think. Still can't figure out your Iowa angle. FYI the committee said they jumped OSU over TCU because they won their league Championship. All Oriole93 is saying shouldn't the winner of the Championship be afforded the same courtesy as OSU in 2014 and be consistent. All this maybe made moot if PSU stumbles and or OSU loses to Michigan or Michigan State. Even with the loss at Iowa Michigan still controls its own destiny. PSU and OSU don't have that luxury
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also, what I so in-elegantly was trying to say was that the Committee afforded Iowa the slot even though I don't think they were the better Team in the Big10 despite the championship.
for OSU, I really believe they had a better Team last year than this year. the thing about CFB that makes me nuts is the weight that's awarded to a loss late in the season. that's what hurt the three Teams this weekend, not so much that they lost as when they lost. OSU played poorly for three weeks, only lost once and has steam-rolled for two weeks, hence, they are number two. should they be?? Clemson and now Michigan are in tough spots with injured QB's, right?? but I think they are better than OSU.
<also, what I so in-elegantly was trying to say was that the Committee afforded Iowa the slot even though I don't think they were the better Team in the Big10 despite the championship.>
But Iowa wasn't awarded a spot by the committee. MSU beat Iowa in the BIG TEN Championship Game. Iowa wasn't in the playoff.
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That's why you lost me. But, anyways MSU had a lock solid case. Beat OSU and Iowa and won the Big Ten Championship. It made the commitees job a picnic. Actually last year was a slam dunk to get to the four team they did even if two of those teams were exposed in the semis. You don't know that until you play the games though
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Not to mention, at least to me, Penn State is still tainted right now. I think the NCAA would rather not have that whole mess being scrutinized anymore. If Penn State makes the playoffs it will all be rekindled. All other things being semi-equal I think the NCAA would prefer anybody but Penn State.
@larryallen73 said:
Not to mention, at least to me, Penn State is still tainted right now. I think the NCAA would rather not have that whole mess being scrutinized anymore. If Penn State makes the playoffs it will all be rekindled. All other things being semi-equal I think the NCAA would prefer anybody but Penn State.
Yeah because this team and coaches had a whole lot to do with it. Their placement in the rankings should be based on their play this season, and nothing else.
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Mark, please feel free to correct me in the future when I don't seem to know what I think I want to say!!
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@larryallen73 said:
Not to mention, at least to me, Penn State is still tainted right now. I think the NCAA would rather not have that whole mess being scrutinized anymore. If Penn State makes the playoffs it will all be rekindled. All other things being semi-equal I think the NCAA would prefer anybody but Penn State.
Yeah because this team and coaches had a whole lot to do with it. Their placement in the rankings should be based on their play this season, and nothing else.
Not saying your sentiment is wrong but I suspect the NCAA would prefer just about any team makes it rather than Penn State. Just a guess.
That's why you lost me. But, anyways MSU had a lock solid case. Beat OSU and Iowa and won the Big Ten Championship. It made the commitees job a picnic. Actually last year was a slam dunk to get to the four team they did even if two of those teams were exposed in the semis. You don't know that until you play the games though
mark
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
The committee also looks at SOS. Last year ohio state was the most talented team in the nation. They finished 11-1 before the bowl games, but only had 1 win against a ranked team and got left out. This year penn state could win the big ten east. They didn't have to play against Wisconsin or Nebraska, unlike ohio state. Ohio state also had a tougher non conference schedule. I'm sure that will not be overlooked if penn state wins the big ten.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
@garnettstyle said:
The committee also looks at SOS. Last year ohio state was the most talented team in the nation. They finished 11-1 before the bowl games, but only had 1 win against a ranked team and got left out. This year penn state could win the big ten east. They didn't have to play against Wisconsin or Nebraska, unlike ohio state. Ohio state also had a tougher non conference schedule. I'm sure that will not be overlooked if penn state wins the big ten.
I'm sure the fact that Penn State beat Ohio State would come into play as well if Penn State beats Wisconsin in the Big Ten Championship Game.
It will be interesting if OSU wins the next two weeks
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@garnettstyle said:
The committee also looks at SOS. Last year ohio state was the most talented team in the nation. They finished 11-1 before the bowl games, but only had 1 win against a ranked team and got left out. This year penn state could win the big ten east. They didn't have to play against Wisconsin or Nebraska, unlike ohio state. Ohio state also had a tougher non conference schedule. I'm sure that will not be overlooked if penn state wins the big ten.
I'm sure the fact that Penn State beat Ohio State would come into play as well if Penn State beats Wisconsin in the Big Ten Championship Game.
It will be interesting if OSU wins the next two weeks
mark
Seems to me even if Penn State wins out they need some help. I think winner of Michigan/OSU would get in before Penn State. So assuming things go relatively as planned: Alabama, Ohio State or Michigan, Clemson or Louisville, and Washington!? I know the Pac 12 is thought of as out of it but Washington beating Wazzu in the Apple Cup (top 20 team) and then top 20 Colorado in the Pac 12 championship. Though I don't like it I think the committee prefers variety of conferences to be represented when possible. I would rather have Michigan/OSU loser and either Clemson or Louisville. However, I don't see the committee doing that over Washington.
Larry if Michigan wins their next two games they are in the Big Ten Championship Game. They are the only team that controls its own destiny:
Michigan is in with two wins ( Indiana and OSU)
Penn State is in with wins against MSU and Rutgers AND with a Michigan loss to OSU
OHio State is in with two wins AND a Penn State loss to Michigan St or Rutgers
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well, now that Mark has settled things...............................
I was struck by how "top heavy" the list of 25 Teams is with the Big 10. either the conference is really competitive this year or the rest of NCAAFB is strangely vanilla, aside from a few schools. whatever it is, the play of the next couple of weeks will straighten things out and restore a sense of normalcy. Michigan will have to depend on their defense and a prayer to carry them through but I would agree that of all those Teams they are currently in the best position to assure a spot in the playoff.
we are at slippery slope time, perfection is almost demanded from here till January. even a stout Team like Alabama has to be feeling it now. they may be the only current Top 5 school that can withstand a loss and still make it in, and that might be a stretch. fasten your seat belts!!!
No doubt keets this is going to be fun. Time to sit back and enjoy. At the end of the day these are just 18-21 year old kids preforming on a such a huge stage. For 99% of them this is the end of the line and they will be entering the real world soon enough.
Anything can happen and it's likely to the next few weeks
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I think the real pressure is on the Head Coaches and the members of the staff, for some their jobs and livelihood may be at stake.
Yah, some of them would certainly miss their 3 to 6 million dollar per year salaries. How will they get by? If anything the "pressure" will be on some of them to finish strong so they can get even more money at their current school or on to a big and better job. Hardly anyone goes from a big job to no job. The deck just gets rearranged.
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not down to anything and not trying to argue, I just said "and the members of the staff, for some their jobs and livelihood" which can mean lots of pressure. most of the HC's that make the big money will land on their feet OK, not so sure of all the others.
I hear you keets. Our society places great pressure on winning every battle and little emphasis on winning the war. People want instant gratification. The Amazon Prime effect.
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you're preaching to the Choir about "instant gratification" when it comes to sports teams. that is at the source of what's happening with the Cleveland Browns --- the fan base is so impatient for a winner and the management succumbs to the pressure applied by the media. the result is a revolving door of Head Coaches and General Managers. much to the chagrin of my loyal friends I tell them we need to follow the example of our arch enemy Pittsburgh Steelers organization. they use loyalty to their advantage, wait patiently for things to develop and in Super Bowls.
instant gratification and the Now Generation doesn't fit well in the world of sports but it is a reality.
ya they stunk up the joint something awful last night
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Congrats to Iowa and PSU rejoices.
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If ohio state wins out, but doesn't win the big ten, I think the committee will still put them in the top four over any two loss team.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
And number 8 and 9
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Well.... Things have become quite complicated.... Not sure the Huskies will survive and make the PAC12 championship game if they don't beat the Cougars. A PAC12 team may not make it. Further, things are messy in the BIG10 with the UM loss to Iowa. The thought of Penn State playing in the Champion game would not be helpful.
And then we have the Clemson home loss to Pitt.
This is shaping up in a manor that is going to disappoint in that the best teams just may not make the playoffs.
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If only conference champions made the playoffs, then there would be no need for a committee.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Well, the pressure finally took its toll, but there's lots of football to be played. Some good games next week include Michigan vs Indiana, OSU vs Michigan State and Washington vs Arizona State. Michigan has to beat Indiana to keep their hopes alive. Same with OSU, they have to beat MSU, and we all know what happened last year. Washington has to win out, period. That's what I like about the playoff, every game is a playoff game. Just lose one if you think they aren't.
I have no idea how the TOP 4 will be ranked but I'll take a stab at it:
Could Clemson remain in the top four? Could OSU climb to #2, win out, but not play in the BIG Championship game? Would the committee take two BIG teams? Would they drop OSU from #2 to spectators? Would they take OSU to the Playoffs but not the BIG Champion? Stay tuned.
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I actually agree with you. First time for everything!
Right now I would say Big 10 has best chance to get 2 teams in and Pac 12 and Big 12 have best chances to get zero teams in.
Still some games to go though....
AP Top 10
1 Alabama
2 Ohio State
3 Louisville
4 Michigan
5 Clemson
6 Wisconsin
7 Washington
8 Oklahoma
9 Penn State
10 West Virginia
Strange to see that the teams from the PAC 12 in the top 25 are Washington, Washington State, Utah, Colorado and USC. Oregon, Stanford and UCLA are missing.
5 PAC 12 teams in the Top 25 is pretty good.
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you have got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wake up to go to a coin show, only to learn that 2-3-4 have all lost???????????? that is just too hard to wrap my head around right now. with the way it looks now the Big 10 will be top heavy in the Poll which presents some real problems in the room for the voting committee.
I see the Top four this way:
Alabama
Ohio State
Louisville
Clemson...............
.....................with Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin not far away.
Michigans starting QB out for the season with a separated shoulder. Penn St rejoices.
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If Penn St. wins out (very likely) and OSU beats Michigan to end the year, then Penn St. goes to the Big Ten championship game against most likely Wisconsin. How does the Committee keep the winner of that game out of the CFP? Wisconsin almost has to be included in that scenario and with Penn St. beating OSU, it would be hard to put them behind OSU in the rankings.
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I know. We are all going to find out together. You also have Clemson and Louisville putting the committee in a possible pickle. Both of them might have one loss and if that's the case Louisville doesn't play in the ACC Championshio Game. They watch at 11-1. Same as OSU. Wild
At this point we can say Alabama is in no matter what.
That leaves three spots up for grabs. Let's say PSU gets to the Championship Game against Wisconsin which is very likely. What do you do with the winner?
Clemson, Alabama, OSU, Louisville? Leaving the Big Ten Champion out? This isn't even factoring in if Washington wins out.
Or do you go Alabama, OSU, Penn State/ Wisconsin winner and Clemson? This leaves Louisville.
The wild card is if somehow Michigan beats OSU.
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if Ohio State, Penn State and Wisconsin all win-out it will leave 2-two loss Teams and 1-one loss Team, presenting a tough choice which will be simplified with the Big 10 Championship. if the Buckeyes end the season at 11-2 sitting at #2 it will be hard to keep them out of the playoff and probably result in a large Big 10 school being very mad.
The CFP committee has said multiple times the last few years that they consider conference championships and head to head matchups to be very influential in decision making. We will see this year if they actually mean that.
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The CFP committee has said multiple times the last few years........................
the Proof of the wisdom is in the result of the choice. in 2014 many were upset that OSU got in but I doubt anyone would argue with that choice today. in 2015 Iowa made it in and it was probably a bad choice given the result.
Man, that hurts. We lost Eddie Jackson, our defensive qb and punt returner right before the LSU game, he broke his leg.
Hope the new qb fares well.
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In 2014 OSU won the Big Ten Championship Game. This year this likely won't even be playing in it. Last year Iowa didnt make it in the CF playoffs and rightfully so. In 2014 and 2015 the winner of the Big Ten Championship Game made it in. This year it's likely to be Wisc vs Penn ST. Your point actually supports Oriole93's stance
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Mark, my only point was (supposed to be) that everyone felt TCU was the better Team and the right choice, but OSU got in. by extension, this year they will also probably think that Penn State or Wisconsin is the better Team(by virtue of the Big 10 Championship). I'm only saying that I think OSU is a better Team and would offer a better opponent for whoever #2 would play.
this all pre-supposes that the three Teams will continue to win.
Gotcha now I think. Still can't figure out your Iowa angle. FYI the committee said they jumped OSU over TCU because they won their league Championship. All Oriole93 is saying shouldn't the winner of the Championship be afforded the same courtesy as OSU in 2014 and be consistent. All this maybe made moot if PSU stumbles and or OSU loses to Michigan or Michigan State. Even with the loss at Iowa Michigan still controls its own destiny. PSU and OSU don't have that luxury
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also, what I so in-elegantly was trying to say was that the Committee afforded Iowa the slot even though I don't think they were the better Team in the Big10 despite the championship.
for OSU, I really believe they had a better Team last year than this year. the thing about CFB that makes me nuts is the weight that's awarded to a loss late in the season. that's what hurt the three Teams this weekend, not so much that they lost as when they lost. OSU played poorly for three weeks, only lost once and has steam-rolled for two weeks, hence, they are number two. should they be?? Clemson and now Michigan are in tough spots with injured QB's, right?? but I think they are better than OSU.
<also, what I so in-elegantly was trying to say was that the Committee afforded Iowa the slot even though I don't think they were the better Team in the Big10 despite the championship.>
But Iowa wasn't awarded a spot by the committee. MSU beat Iowa in the BIG TEN Championship Game. Iowa wasn't in the playoff.
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then I must mean MSU or else I'm confused. please help!!! CRS.............
That's why you lost me. But, anyways MSU had a lock solid case. Beat OSU and Iowa and won the Big Ten Championship. It made the commitees job a picnic. Actually last year was a slam dunk to get to the four team they did even if two of those teams were exposed in the semis. You don't know that until you play the games though
mark
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Not to mention, at least to me, Penn State is still tainted right now. I think the NCAA would rather not have that whole mess being scrutinized anymore. If Penn State makes the playoffs it will all be rekindled. All other things being semi-equal I think the NCAA would prefer anybody but Penn State.
Yeah because this team and coaches had a whole lot to do with it. Their placement in the rankings should be based on their play this season, and nothing else.
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Mark, please feel free to correct me in the future when I don't seem to know what I think I want to say!!
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Not saying your sentiment is wrong but I suspect the NCAA would prefer just about any team makes it rather than Penn State. Just a guess.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
The committee also looks at SOS. Last year ohio state was the most talented team in the nation. They finished 11-1 before the bowl games, but only had 1 win against a ranked team and got left out. This year penn state could win the big ten east. They didn't have to play against Wisconsin or Nebraska, unlike ohio state. Ohio state also had a tougher non conference schedule. I'm sure that will not be overlooked if penn state wins the big ten.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
I'm sure the fact that Penn State beat Ohio State would come into play as well if Penn State beats Wisconsin in the Big Ten Championship Game.
It will be interesting if OSU wins the next two weeks
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Seems to me even if Penn State wins out they need some help. I think winner of Michigan/OSU would get in before Penn State. So assuming things go relatively as planned: Alabama, Ohio State or Michigan, Clemson or Louisville, and Washington!? I know the Pac 12 is thought of as out of it but Washington beating Wazzu in the Apple Cup (top 20 team) and then top 20 Colorado in the Pac 12 championship. Though I don't like it I think the committee prefers variety of conferences to be represented when possible. I would rather have Michigan/OSU loser and either Clemson or Louisville. However, I don't see the committee doing that over Washington.
Larry if Michigan wins their next two games they are in the Big Ten Championship Game. They are the only team that controls its own destiny:
Michigan is in with two wins ( Indiana and OSU)
Penn State is in with wins against MSU and Rutgers AND with a Michigan loss to OSU
OHio State is in with two wins AND a Penn State loss to Michigan St or Rutgers
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There would be the same discussions with a 6 or 8 team playoff.
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well, now that Mark has settled things...............................
I was struck by how "top heavy" the list of 25 Teams is with the Big 10. either the conference is really competitive this year or the rest of NCAAFB is strangely vanilla, aside from a few schools. whatever it is, the play of the next couple of weeks will straighten things out and restore a sense of normalcy. Michigan will have to depend on their defense and a prayer to carry them through but I would agree that of all those Teams they are currently in the best position to assure a spot in the playoff.
we are at slippery slope time, perfection is almost demanded from here till January. even a stout Team like Alabama has to be feeling it now. they may be the only current Top 5 school that can withstand a loss and still make it in, and that might be a stretch. fasten your seat belts!!!
No doubt keets this is going to be fun. Time to sit back and enjoy. At the end of the day these are just 18-21 year old kids preforming on a such a huge stage. For 99% of them this is the end of the line and they will be entering the real world soon enough.
Anything can happen and it's likely to the next few weeks
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I think the real pressure is on the Head Coaches and the members of the staff, for some their jobs and livelihood may be at stake.
Yah, some of them would certainly miss their 3 to 6 million dollar per year salaries. How will they get by? If anything the "pressure" will be on some of them to finish strong so they can get even more money at their current school or on to a big and better job. Hardly anyone goes from a big job to no job. The deck just gets rearranged.
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
even the assistants??
So we are down to the assistants ; )
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
not down to anything and not trying to argue, I just said "and the members of the staff, for some their jobs and livelihood" which can mean lots of pressure. most of the HC's that make the big money will land on their feet OK, not so sure of all the others.
I hear you keets. Our society places great pressure on winning every battle and little emphasis on winning the war. People want instant gratification. The Amazon Prime effect.
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
you're preaching to the Choir about "instant gratification" when it comes to sports teams. that is at the source of what's happening with the Cleveland Browns --- the fan base is so impatient for a winner and the management succumbs to the pressure applied by the media. the result is a revolving door of Head Coaches and General Managers. much to the chagrin of my loyal friends I tell them we need to follow the example of our arch enemy Pittsburgh Steelers organization. they use loyalty to their advantage, wait patiently for things to develop and in Super Bowls.
instant gratification and the Now Generation doesn't fit well in the world of sports but it is a reality.
Lewuhvul out of the mix.
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress
and Louisville has left the building!!!
Did some people say Louisville would beat Bama?
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
ya they stunk up the joint something awful last night
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......