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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have at it.

    Last Updated - November 1, 2016
    College Football Playoff
    RANK SCHOOL RECORD
    RANK SCHOOL RECORD
    1 Alabama 8-0
    2 Clemson 8-0
    3 Michigan 8-0
    4 Texas A&M 7-1
    5 Washington 8-0
    6 Ohio State 7-1
    7 Louisville 7-1
    8 Wisconsin 6-2
    9 Auburn 6-2
    10 Nebraska 7-1
    11 Florida 6-1
    12 Penn State 6-2
    13 LSU 5-2
    14 Oklahoma 6-2
    15 Colorado 6-2
    16 Utah 7-2
    17 Baylor 6-1
    18 Oklahoma State 6-2
    19 Virginia Tech 6-2
    20 West Virginia 6-1
    21 North Carolina 6-2
    22 Florida State 5-3
    23 Western Michigan 8-0
    24 Boise State 7-1
    25 Washington State 6-2

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  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭

    The first poll seems reasonable enough. Not sure about Texas A&M but it's splitting hairs. Washington has had an easy schedule. The win over Stanford seemed big at the time and then Stanford lost again the following week. Scoring 70 against Oregon is good but the Ducks are down this year. Their win against Utah was their only big win. Now, having said all that, if they remain unbeaten I suspect they will end up in the top 4. I think Ohio State and Louisville would be tougher opponents than Texas A&M or U-dub at this point though. Long way to go still....

  • orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the list for the most part. I personally would put Washington at 4 but it's a close call. Other than that I don't see any glaring issues.

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  • cecropiamothcecropiamoth Posts: 969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does anyone see Wisconsin even having a chance to make the playoffs as a two loss team? Should I stop dreaming now and just forget about it? Let's assume Nebraska falls to OSU on the road (17 pt dogs) and Bucky wins their final four BIG10 games (they should be favored in all four). This would set up a rematch vs likely the winner of the Michigan-OSU game in the conference championship game. They go out and win that game. A two loss team in the playoffs? They sure would be battle tested. If only they had held on and won the Ohio State game.

    I'm expecting to get hit with a rash of LOLs here.

    Jeff

  • PM770PM770 Posts: 320 ✭✭

    @cecropiamoth said:
    Does anyone see Wisconsin even having a chance to make the playoffs as a two loss team? Should I stop dreaming now and just forget about it? Let's assume Nebraska falls to OSU on the road (17 pt dogs) and Bucky wins their final four BIG10 games (they should be favored in all four). This would set up a rematch vs likely the winner of the Michigan-OSU game in the conference championship game. They go out and win that game. A two loss team in the playoffs? They sure would be battle tested. If only they had held on and won the Ohio State game.

    I'm expecting to get hit with a rash of LOLs here.

    Jeff

    Yes, I believe a 2-loss Big Ten Champion Wisconsin would be in. They would have some very nice wins. It might be helpful to have Ohio State beat Michigan so there isn't a 12-1 Michigan to consider. But I have to think the Big Ten champion gets a spot.

    The wild card could be if Auburn beats Alabama and wins the west and the SEC. If Clemson and Washington both run the table, you have a pool of Auburn (2 loss SEC champ), Wiscconsin (2 loss Big 10 champ) and Alabama (11-1). Pick 2.

  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭

    @cecropiamoth said:
    Does anyone see Wisconsin even having a chance to make the playoffs as a two loss team? Should I stop dreaming now and just forget about it? Let's assume Nebraska falls to OSU on the road (17 pt dogs) and Bucky wins their final four BIG10 games (they should be favored in all four). This would set up a rematch vs likely the winner of the Michigan-OSU game in the conference championship game. They go out and win that game. A two loss team in the playoffs? They sure would be battle tested. If only they had held on and won the Ohio State game.

    I'm expecting to get hit with a rash of LOLs here.

    Jeff

    I think that is very hard to imagine. I think so many things would have to go your way for that to happen.

  • PM770PM770 Posts: 320 ✭✭

    @larryallen73 said:

    @cecropiamoth said:
    Does anyone see Wisconsin even having a chance to make the playoffs as a two loss team? Should I stop dreaming now and just forget about it? Let's assume Nebraska falls to OSU on the road (17 pt dogs) and Bucky wins their final four BIG10 games (they should be favored in all four). This would set up a rematch vs likely the winner of the Michigan-OSU game in the conference championship game. They go out and win that game. A two loss team in the playoffs? They sure would be battle tested. If only they had held on and won the Ohio State game.

    I'm expecting to get hit with a rash of LOLs here.

    Jeff

    I think that is very hard to imagine. I think so many things would have to go your way for that to happen.

    I don't think its hard to imagine at all. If Alabama, Clemson and Washington all win their conferences. And assuming there are no more major upsets, that last spot goes to:

    a) A 1 loss, non-champion Louisville
    b) A 1 loss, non-champion Texas A&M
    c) A 2 loss, Big 12 Champion Oklahoma
    d) A 2 loss, Big 10 Champion Wisconsin.

    The committee has said it will give weight to conference champions. So I think a choice between Wisconsin and Oklahoma goes to Wisconsin who will have just beaten Michigan or Ohio State in the Championship game. And while Louisville's loss is a "quality loss" its best win is going to be over a 3-4 loss FSU team. A&M could be more tricky, because that Auburn win looks better by the week and assuming they beat LSU they will have a great resume, but I can't see the Big Ten champion being left out. Especially considering that LSU win Wisconsin will have.

    Wisconsin is very much alive Badger fans!

  • PM770PM770 Posts: 320 ✭✭

    Here is where it may get tricky: Say Michigan loses to Iowa & Ohio State. Ohio State would have won a 3-way tie-breaker, but will lose a tie-breaker with only Penn State. If we end up with a Wisconsin-Penn State Big 10 championship game, that may not be enough to get Wisconsin in over Texas A&M in my above scenario.

  • orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PM770 said:
    Here is where it may get tricky: Say Michigan loses to Iowa & Ohio State. Ohio State would have won a 3-way tie-breaker, but will lose a tie-breaker with only Penn State. If we end up with a Wisconsin-Penn State Big 10 championship game, that may not be enough to get Wisconsin in over Texas A&M in my above scenario.

    It's safe to say, it's going to be a fun end of the year stretch for the big ten.

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  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭

    @PM770 said:

    @larryallen73 said:

    @cecropiamoth said:
    Does anyone see Wisconsin even having a chance to make the playoffs as a two loss team? Should I stop dreaming now and just forget about it? Let's assume Nebraska falls to OSU on the road (17 pt dogs) and Bucky wins their final four BIG10 games (they should be favored in all four). This would set up a rematch vs likely the winner of the Michigan-OSU game in the conference championship game. They go out and win that game. A two loss team in the playoffs? They sure would be battle tested. If only they had held on and won the Ohio State game.

    I'm expecting to get hit with a rash of LOLs here.

    Jeff

    I think that is very hard to imagine. I think so many things would have to go your way for that to happen.

    I don't think its hard to imagine at all. If Alabama, Clemson and Washington all win their conferences. And assuming there are no more major upsets, that last spot goes to:

    a) A 1 loss, non-champion Louisville
    b) A 1 loss, non-champion Texas A&M
    c) A 2 loss, Big 12 Champion Oklahoma
    d) A 2 loss, Big 10 Champion Wisconsin.

    The committee has said it will give weight to conference champions. So I think a choice between Wisconsin and Oklahoma goes to Wisconsin who will have just beaten Michigan or Ohio State in the Championship game. And while Louisville's loss is a "quality loss" its best win is going to be over a 3-4 loss FSU team. A&M could be more tricky, because that Auburn win looks better by the week and assuming they beat LSU they will have a great resume, but I can't see the Big Ten champion being left out. Especially considering that LSU win Wisconsin will have.

    Wisconsin is very much alive Badger fans!

    I am not on the committee so my opinion means little. I just think (wish) conference championships didn't carry extra weight. To me it's just an extra game. A two loss team is a two loss team. They are a dime a dozen to me. It's why we had so many worthless new years day bowl games in the old system with low ranked Pitt and other such conference champions had automatic bids. It should be the four best teams. I would much rather see Louisville than Wisconsin. Bottom line though I think Ohio State will win the Big 10 so this is all moot.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think a one loss Texas A&M gets in it that senerio unless Wisconsin beats Ohio State or Michigan 59-0 in the Big Ten Championship Game.

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  • travis ttravis t Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭

    The fate of Washington should hinge on their performance against Washington State, which currently looms as a pretty good matchup, and then potentially the Pac-12 title game. They actually seem to have the best available path to a top 4 ranking assuming all of their remaining opponents play to their current standards.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If Washington goes undefeated they are in

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just for fun...........mark

    As of now in Vegas Alabama would be favored by over a touchdown against any team in the country. Alabama would be an 8.5-point favorite over Michigan and by 10 over Ohio State, according to Golden Nugget. ( and FYI no one cares what happened in 2014).]

    Golden Nugget has Michigan favored by four in a matchup against Clemson, although Pregame.com said bettors think the matchup should be around a “pick’em.”

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  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭

    Louisville is out. As of today five different big ten teams still has a shot. Penn state needs a little help.

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  • PM770PM770 Posts: 320 ✭✭

    @garnettstyle said:
    Louisville is out. As of today five different big ten teams still has a shot. Penn state needs a little help.

    Louisville isn't dead yet. They need a lot to happen, but they are not dead by any means.

  • PM770PM770 Posts: 320 ✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    I think a one loss Texas A&M gets in it that senerio unless Wisconsin beats Ohio State or Michigan 59-0 in the Big Ten Championship Game.

    mark

    I don't think we are going to see this put to the test, but I still believe that a 2-loss Big Ten champ is in over a 1-loss Texas A&M. Now Alabama losing to Auburn, going 11-1 while Auburn wins the SEC is a different story. An 11-1 non-SEC champion Alabama would get in before a 2-loss Big Ten champion.

  • PM770PM770 Posts: 320 ✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    ( and FYI no one cares what happened in 2014).]

    Now Mark, as a gambler, you know darn well that those who ignore history do so at their own peril!

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PM770 said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    ( and FYI no one cares what happened in 2014).]

    Now Mark, as a gambler, you know darn well that those who ignore history do so at their own peril!

    If the players were the same I would agree.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,107 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Illinois beat MIchigan State ....

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  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭

    I wonder if Ole Miss will get back into the top 25 after that great squeaking win over Georgia Southern? LOL

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Time for the big one. Alabama goes into Death Valley. Stoked

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  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭

    Ohio state wearing 1916 uniforms.

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  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2016 7:48AM

    Hats off to LSU, their defense played great and made it tough on our young qb.

    I love these defensive games, great game. First game of the year to be 0-0 at the start of 4th quarter.

  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,659 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @garnettstyle said:
    Ohio state wearing 1916 uniforms.

    I like those Garnett, seemed like it made 'em play better.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    that list looks good with OSU and Louisville hanging around for one of them to lose. the Buckeyes can hope to beat Michigan head-to-head, who does Clemson and Washington have on their schedules that might test them??

  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2016 5:34AM

    @keets said:
    that list looks good with OSU and Louisville hanging around for one of them to lose. the Buckeyes can hope to beat Michigan head-to-head, who does Clemson and Washington have on their schedules that might test them??

    Washington has USC next week, WSU later and a possible conference championship game.
    Clemson has a conference championship game and that's it for them. Watson hurt his shoulder yesterday, don't know how bad though. Alabama has to beat Miss. State and Auburn and a possible conference championship game. Michigan and OSU, enough said.

    btw....both the OSU/Nebraska and Bama/LSU games aired at the same time. I wonder what the ratings were?

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2016 8:24AM

    Nebraska was suspect coming into the OSU game. They had quite literally not beaten anybody of consequence this year. They left with a broken QB and broken spirit.

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  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,659 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @garnettstyle said:

    I wonder if Ole Miss will get back into the top 25 after that great squeaking win over Georgia Southern? LOL

    Nope, they're #40 in the Coaches Poll, ranked higher than Michigan State.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AP Top Ten

    Alabama
    Michigan
    Clemson
    Washington
    Louisville
    Ohio State
    Wisconsin
    Auburn
    Oklahoma
    Texas A&M

    The entire poll

    http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll

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  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭

    @Bullsitter said:

    @keets said:
    that list looks good with OSU and Louisville hanging around for one of them to lose. the Buckeyes can hope to beat Michigan head-to-head, who does Clemson and Washington have on their schedules that might test them??

    Washington has USC next week, WSU later and a possible conference championship game.
    Clemson has a conference championship game and that's it for them. Watson hurt his shoulder yesterday, don't know how bad though. Alabama has to beat Miss. State and Auburn and a possible conference championship game. Michigan and OSU, enough said.

    btw....both the OSU/Nebraska and Bama/LSU games aired at the same time. I wonder what the ratings were?

    I hadn't looked at Washington's schedule but that's three tough games. U$C is playing much better, Washington state has been on a roll, and then the championship game which could be U$C again or Colorado who is way better than I thought they were. I could easily see Washington losing at least one of those.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coaches Poll....mark

    Alabama
    Clemson
    Michigan
    Washington
    Ohio State
    Louisville
    Wisconsin
    Oklahoma
    Auburn
    West Virgina

    The rest of the coaches poll

    http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/2016/11/?ref=yfp

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know there's still a way to go and a lot can happen, but right now it looks like SEC - ACC - Big 10 - PAC 12 will be the representative conferences this year in the playoffs. the Team order may change from what they are now but probably not the conferences.

    I wonder what the odds right now are on Alabama vs. Michigan??? five weeks ago I would have thought that OSU would beat Michigan but right now I'm not so certain, it is a game that not many will want to miss.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2016 7:32AM
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  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭

    @keets said:
    I know there's still a way to go and a lot can happen, but right now it looks like SEC - ACC - Big 10 - PAC 12 will be the representative conferences this year in the playoffs. the Team order may change from what they are now but probably not the conferences.

    I wonder what the odds right now are on Alabama vs. Michigan??? five weeks ago I would have thought that OSU would beat Michigan but right now I'm not so certain, it is a game that not many will want to miss.

    As of today that's true but if Clemson or Washington lose a game and Ohio State beats Michigan there could be some issues. 1 loss Washington or 1 loss Michigan? I have to imagine Michigan gets the nod unless Washington loses a game but then wins the Pac 12 championship in which case Washington probably would. Plus what if Clemson loses a game!? Still a ton of possibilities of how things could go and a high probability that at least one team will feel they got a raw deal in ending up 5th.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keets said:
    I know there's still a way to go and a lot can happen, but right now it looks like SEC - ACC - Big 10 - PAC 12 will be the representative conferences this year in the playoffs. the Team order may change from what they are now but probably not the conferences.

    I wonder what the odds right now are on Alabama vs. Michigan??? five weeks ago I would have thought that OSU would beat Michigan but right now I'm not so certain, it is a game that not many will want to miss.

    Yah, who knows on the Michigan-OSU game. I have no feeling so far.

    I did some interesting reading over the weekend. Many feel that a one loss Alabama ( lose to Auburn ) or a one loss Michigan team ( loss to OSU) could end up making the playoffs to join an/or Auburn/OSU team that wins the Conference Championship Game. That idea was floated after the commiteee hd a one loss SEC team in its initial Top 4 to join Alabama. They felt the Committee might be telegraphing the possibility. I wouldn't count on but it makes for interesting convo.

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mark, I don't think that multiple Conference Teams is a reality barring some unforeseen "perfect storm" sort of scenario, my feeling is that's the way the whole thing is set-up --- four slots and four conferences. come to think of it, that may be one reason why the whole thing isn't expanded for eight Teams: they're afraid of a year when there might be three Teams from the SEC, Big 10, etc.

    for that reason I don't see how a one-loss Alabama doesn't get in. a one loss Michigan, yes, but not a one loss Alabama. also, I think Louisville is the Team that will slide in like OSU did when they won the Championship. as long as they win out they only need Teams ahead to lose a game.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2016 12:59PM

    If Clemson doesn't lose twice in league play then Louisville gets shut out. They play in the same division and can't meet in the ACC Championship Game. OSU got in on the strength of their waxing of Wisconsin in the BIG TEN Chamionship game. No probable chance for Louisville to impress. The odds of two ACC teams making it seems remote although possible. Louisville doesn't have a tough game left on their schedule. They probably need a 2 loss Michigan AND a two loss Ohio State to get in. They already have a two loss Penn State and Wisconsin

    If Michigan loses to OSU they willl likely fall to #4 or #5.

    If Alabama loses to Auburn they would probably fall to #2, #3 or #4.

    All that goes out the window if Michigan or Alabama slips up before grudge weekend.

    The Big Ten east could easily have a three way tie at 8-1. Michigan, OSU and Penn St.

    With OSU beating Michigan, Michigan beating PSU and PSU beating OSU.

    BUT tons of football to be played

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Commitees Top Ten

    1) Alabama
    2) Clemson
    3) Michigan
    4)Washington
    5) OSU
    6) Louisville
    7)Wisconsin
    8) Texas A&M
    9) Auburn
    10) Penn State

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  • orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    The Commitees Top Ten

    1) Alabama
    2) Clemson
    3) Michigan
    4)Washington
    5) OSU
    6) Louisville
    7)Wisconsin
    8) Texas A&M
    9) Auburn
    10) Penn State

    Mark

    I like the list. It's a toss up at this point between Wash, OSU, and Louisville for 4 through 6. I also think A&M could be lower after their loss.

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  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭

    Conference power rankings

    1 Big ten
    2 Sec
    3 ACC
    4 PAC 12
    5 Big 12

    https://campusinsiders.com/news/college-football-conference-power-rankings-week-11-11-06-2016/

    IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED

  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭

    IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting looking at the Top 25

    The ACC, Big Ten and SEC have five teams each.
    The Big 12 and PAC 10 have four teams each.

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  • orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @garnettstyle said:
    Conference power rankings

    1 Big ten
    2 Sec
    3 ACC
    4 PAC 12
    5 Big 12

    https://campusinsiders.com/news/college-football-conference-power-rankings-week-11-11-06-2016/

    College football is much better when the Big 10 is relevant. The SEC and Big 10 are close, but I think the Big 10 has the edge so far this season. Michigan St. and Iowa are down this year, but Penn St., Minnesota, and Nebraska are having good seasons. These 3 teams are really helping the quality of the Big 10 as a whole.

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  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,659 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @orioles93 said:

    @garnettstyle said:
    Conference power rankings

    1 Big ten
    2 Sec
    3 ACC
    4 PAC 12
    5 Big 12

    https://campusinsiders.com/news/college-football-conference-power-rankings-week-11-11-06-2016/

    College football is much better when the Big 10 is relevant. The SEC and Big 10 are close, but I think the Big 10 has the edge so far this season. Michigan St. and Iowa are down this year, but Penn St., Minnesota, and Nebraska are having good seasons. These 3 teams are really helping the quality of the Big 10 as a whole.

    Don't forget Wisconsin, they beat LSU.

  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 12, 2016 4:33PM

    Alabama clinched the West Division with a little help from Georgia. Way to go Bulldogs, Coach Kirby and #2, Mo Smith, well done !! Oh my, down goes Clemson, down goes Clemson.

  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭

    Will the committee put Louisville ahead of Clemson?

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    This spices things up a bit.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ohio State needs Michigan to win if they want to get to the Big Ten Championship. OSU would lose a two way tie to PSU.

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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 12, 2016 8:32PM

    Wow!
    Now it's extra spicy!
    2, 3 & 4 lose on the same day. :o

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