Alabama is playing the Big 10's best Team, right?? MSU and Dantonio are an embarrassment.
I'm sayin' this is a bit of an overstatement. Your post is an embarrassment. Show some class.
You have nothing to hang your heads about. Alabama was going to destroy whoever they played today. Unfortunately it was MSU. Great year for Spartie.
Today it was men against boys. It happens. Hopefully we get a good Championship Game. By far and away we got the two best teams playing in it.
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MSU played tough the first half, made us earn every inch we got. The MSU program is a class act, lot of respect for them.
Bama vs Clemson should be a great game. We have trouble at times with running qbs and Watson has wheels. If we can contain Watson we will have a chance. I don't know why we opened as a 7 point favorite, I see that # dropping.
Went 1-2 yesterday. Kind of figured Houston might win and got caught up in the Oklahoma hype.
my point about the "best Team" and "embarrassment" is simply to follow what I have said earlier in the thread, that a single loss late in the season carries far too much weight in the current playoff scheme, as it has in the past.
Alabama is a very tough opponent, but they were a very tough opponent last year as ANY Team coached by Saban will always be. I don't, however, subscribe to the notion that MSU was the best choice from the Big 10 to be playing them although I grudgingly accept that they were the conference Champion. Save for the anomaly which was the OSU vs. MSU game I believe the outcome last night would have been different. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Ohio State would have beaten Alabama(though that may have happened), but I am saying that the score would not have been 38-0. Lou Saban and Urban Meyer know each other pretty well so it's a foregone conclusion that they would have played each other differently. Playing a weak offensive Team like MSU gave Alabama a huge advantage that they exploited very well.
Let's face facts, MSU might have a good run of sending QB's to the NFL who have successful careers but that isn't the ticket to an NCAA Championship. It's a reasonably sure bet that Shaw will have a better shot in the NFL than Coker, but in the NCAA Coker is the better player and I don't really think it's close. Conversely, how is a Coker/Barret comparison along with seeing how the battle between Henry and Elliot would shape up??? I think that match-up would have been more entertaining and competitive. Dantonio and the Spartans deserve congratulations for making it as far as they did but in the end their effort will only shore up the voices of everyone who believes the Big 10 is a weak conference. Hence, the embarrassment. I guess it's no secret that I am an OSU supporter. My feeling is that they are indeed the best team the Big 10 has to offer and they paid a very dear price for having a poor game late in the season. Perhaps the bigger cause of all that is the choice of Urban Meyer to "experiment" with Cardale Jones, a mistake I suppose he won't make again.
Does anyone know if Henry will announce for the Draft or will he play another season??
As the game was winding down I was wondering, how the hell did MSU beat OSU. When you're the defending champs you get the best of each team you play, every week. I imagine MSU had OSU in its scope for a year. When we were going for 3 in a row we got the best from each team we played. We had 7 games where our opponent had 2 weeks to prepare. It's tough to repeat.
why all the suspensions, not just ND but the whole Nation? It boggles my mind that the structure of the season can keep these guys under wraps but with a day off all hell breaks lose.
Another question --- Does the Final 25 stick to the Top Four Teams staying in those positions??
Who ever loses the championship game will likely remain #2 but #3 and #4 can change
Last year TCU moved to number 3 and Alabama was number 4 in the final standings. At the end of the day no one cares
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Just saw the ratings were down over a third for the two CFP games last night; more than double the drop in TV ratings on the whole for last night (New Year's Eve).
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
What was the spread on the Vol's game? Geez. I guess they covered. An 8-4 SEC team looks better than a 10-2 Big Ten team, eh!? Maybe there is something to that "SEC bias!?"
What was the spread on the Vol's game? Geez. I guess they covered. An 8-4 SEC team looks better than a 10-2 Big Ten team, eh!? Maybe there is something to that "SEC bias!?"
Remember we were told that is terrible Tennessee team.
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I didn't watch the OSU/ND game but listened for a few minutes. Based on the score, at least, it's too bad OSU couldn't handle Michigan State because I have to think OSU would have given Alabama a better game than MSU did. I guess we will never know. Too bad they couldn't win their conference. Maybe next year!
I didn't watch the OSU/ND game but listened for a few minutes. Based on the score, at least, it's too bad OSU couldn't handle Michigan State because I have to think OSU would have given Alabama a better game than MSU did. I guess we will never know. Too bad they couldn't win their conference. Maybe next year!
I didn't watch it either. My eyes were glued on the Michigan-Florida game
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I didn't watch the OSU/ND game but listened for a few minutes. Based on the score, at least, it's too bad OSU couldn't handle Michigan State because I have to think OSU would have given Alabama a better game than MSU did. I guess we will never know. Too bad they couldn't win their conference. Maybe next year!
In garnettstyle's basement OSU is undefeated. Because that's where games are won. Certainly what happens on the field doesn't matter as much.
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I just told my Hawkeye buddy at least they had a good sports week overall... with that hoops win the other night. Not looking good at the Rose Bowl. Dang Stanford is beating them up.
Somewhere earlier in this thread, probably close to 20-25 days ago, I posted that Ohio State-Stanford and Iowa-ND were the better match ups... well enough said.
These two Bowl games were just not compelling match ups-
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Originally posted by: coinkat Somewhere earlier in this thread, probably close to 20-25 days ago, I posted that Ohio State-Stanford and Iowa-ND were the better match ups... well enough said.
These two Bowl games were just not compelling match ups-
Every game the last 2 days have not been close.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Originally posted by: garnettstyle Michigan put a spanking on the SEC east champ.
Clemson beat Notre Dame by 2
Ohio State beat Notre Dame by 16
You be the judge.
Michigan State beat Ohio State 17-14
Alabama beat Michigan State 38-0
You be the judge.
I should add that Stanford MORE than put a spanking on the big ten west champion. OMG. The score was not an accurate reflection of the game. It was not nearly as close as 45-16 looks. LOL. Iowa did NOTHING against Stanford and Stanford was kind and didn't run the score up. Worst Rose Bowl I can remember watching ever. I was rooting for the Hawkeyes but they just got obliterated. Sad.
Actually, Stanford DID run the score up. They played their starters the entire game and were throwing bombs with less than 3 minutes to play. That's kinda the definition of running up the score.
Originally posted by: larryallen73 What was the spread on the Vol's game? Geez. I guess they covered. An 8-4 SEC team looks better than a 10-2 Big Ten team, eh!? Maybe there is something to that "SEC bias!?"
Meanwhile an SEC division champion lost by 5 touchdowns to a team that finished 3rd in their division in the B1G...
Hard to say any one conference is dominating the bowl season thus far. Seems Pac 12, Big 10 and SEC all doing pretty well with some wins and some losses. Big 12 is struggling though. I can't remember any big wins by them!?
Originally posted by: larryallen73 Hard to say any one conference is dominating the bowl season thus far. Seems Pac 12, Big 10 and SEC all doing pretty well with some wins and some losses. Big 12 is struggling though. I can't remember any big wins by them!?
Lots of parity. Big 12 only 1 bowl win but have 3 games tomorrow. Despite Stanford winning today, the Big 10 did quite well against the Pac 12 this year.
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The Michigan State, Northwestern and Iowa beat downs were so predictable.
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My overall impression of the games so far is that the "committee" and whoever it is that makes the choices in the various Bowl games didn't make very good choices this year. Whatever the criteria is for opponents it might be time for a change, just like it should be time for a change in the two-year-old Championship format. On the surface it seems everyone got one thing correct --- that Clemson vs. Alabama for the title is the right choice. That in itself may have been different if not for the other unwise picks when aligning the Top 25 to suite Bowl match-up committees. The entire process is sort of flawed. Even going back to the 1960's and the game I followed most closely, the Rose Bowl, the Big 10 Champion couldn't participate for two consecutive years(which meant the #2 Team played) in what always amounted to be a Home Game for the PAC 12 Champ.
As long as the scheduling is determined by biased individuals we will have outcomes like we have had so far this season. It all makes me think about how the playoffs work in the NFL where home filed advantage is recognized and played for, only to have the most important game of the season played at some neutral and pre-determined location where the fans and the weather aren't a factor. It seems to be a set-up that satisfies the schedule makers more than the fans. Can you imagine an SEC Team playing in the upper Midwest during a Dec/Jan snowstorm?? That would be classic!! Or even Stanford having to travel to Iowa to play in a downpour at 40 degrees?? Probably not something to talk about in polite company.
Originally posted by: keets My overall impression of the games so far is that the "committee" and whoever it is that makes the choices in the various Bowl games didn't make very good choices this year. Whatever the criteria is for opponents it might be time for a change, just like it should be time for a change in the two-year-old Championship format. On the surface it seems everyone got one thing correct --- that Clemson vs. Alabama for the title is the right choice. That in itself may have been different if not for the other unwise picks when aligning the Top 25 to suite Bowl match-up committees. The entire process is sort of flawed. Even going back to the 1960's and the game I followed most closely, the Rose Bowl, the Big 10 Champion couldn't participate for two consecutive years(which meant the #2 Team played) in what always amounted to be a Home Game for the PAC 12 Champ.
As long as the scheduling is determined by biased individuals we will have outcomes like we have had so far this season. It all makes me think about how the playoffs work in the NFL where home filed advantage is recognized and played for, only to have the most important game of the season played at some neutral and pre-determined location where the fans and the weather aren't a factor. It seems to be a set-up that satisfies the schedule makers more than the fans. Can you imagine an SEC Team playing in the upper Midwest during a Dec/Jan snowstorm?? That would be classic!! Or even Stanford having to travel to Iowa to play in a downpour at 40 degrees?? Probably not something to talk about in polite company.
I think there should be a 8 team playoff, then the # 9 and #10 teams could whine.
I'd like to see Big 10 teams and fans come down south during the first few weeks of September and play in our heat. Heat index reaches 110 degrees in the shade. That would be X-rated.
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Alabama is playing the Big 10's best Team, right?? MSU and Dantonio are an embarrassment.
I'm sayin' this is a bit of an overstatement. Your post is an embarrassment. Show some class.
You have nothing to hang your heads about. Alabama was going to destroy whoever they played today. Unfortunately it was MSU. Great year for Spartie.
Today it was men against boys. It happens. Hopefully we get a good Championship Game. By far and away we got the two best teams playing in it.
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Bama vs Clemson should be a great game. We have trouble at times with running qbs and Watson has wheels. If we can contain Watson we will have a chance. I don't know why we opened as a 7 point favorite, I see that # dropping.
Went 1-2 yesterday. Kind of figured Houston might win and got caught up in the Oklahoma hype.
Todays winners:
Tennessee
Michigan
OSU
Stanford
Ole Miss
Can't wait for the FROG BOWL
Alabama is playing the Big 10's best Team, right?? MSU and Dantonio are an embarrassment.
2nd best team. Only reason MSU beat OSU was because Zeke was on his death bed that week.
Conner Cook missed that game so it all equals out, must have forgot that, huh.
Looks as if there is greater parity in the Big Ten among the top 3 teams. I suppose the argument could be made for that to extend to the top 6 teams.
In any event, it looks as if there is no real dispute as to Clemson and Alabama playing for the championship. Both teams earned that right.
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Alabama is a very tough opponent, but they were a very tough opponent last year as ANY Team coached by Saban will always be. I don't, however, subscribe to the notion that MSU was the best choice from the Big 10 to be playing them although I grudgingly accept that they were the conference Champion. Save for the anomaly which was the OSU vs. MSU game I believe the outcome last night would have been different. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Ohio State would have beaten Alabama(though that may have happened), but I am saying that the score would not have been 38-0. Lou Saban and Urban Meyer know each other pretty well so it's a foregone conclusion that they would have played each other differently. Playing a weak offensive Team like MSU gave Alabama a huge advantage that they exploited very well.
Let's face facts, MSU might have a good run of sending QB's to the NFL who have successful careers but that isn't the ticket to an NCAA Championship. It's a reasonably sure bet that Shaw will have a better shot in the NFL than Coker, but in the NCAA Coker is the better player and I don't really think it's close. Conversely, how is a Coker/Barret comparison along with seeing how the battle between Henry and Elliot would shape up??? I think that match-up would have been more entertaining and competitive. Dantonio and the Spartans deserve congratulations for making it as far as they did but in the end their effort will only shore up the voices of everyone who believes the Big 10 is a weak conference. Hence, the embarrassment. I guess it's no secret that I am an OSU supporter. My feeling is that they are indeed the best team the Big 10 has to offer and they paid a very dear price for having a poor game late in the season. Perhaps the bigger cause of all that is the choice of Urban Meyer to "experiment" with Cardale Jones, a mistake I suppose he won't make again.
Does anyone know if Henry will announce for the Draft or will he play another season??
As the game was winding down I was wondering, how the hell did MSU beat OSU. When you're the defending champs you get the best of each team you play, every week. I imagine MSU had OSU in its scope for a year. When we were going for 3 in a row we got the best from each team we played. We had 7 games where our opponent had 2 weeks to prepare. It's tough to repeat.
Keets, who does Lou Saban coach?
The window to accept my avatar bet has officially closed.
Another question --- Does the Final 25 stick to the Top Four Teams staying in those positions??
Who ever loses the championship game will likely remain #2 but #3 and #4 can change
Last year TCU moved to number 3 and Alabama was number 4 in the final standings. At the end of the day no one cares
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IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Alabama is playing the Big 10's best Team, right?? MSU and Dantonio are an embarrassment.
2nd best team. Only reason MSU beat OSU was because Zeke was on his death bed that week.
Conner Cook missed that game so it all equals out, must have forgot that, huh.
You're comparing Conner Cook to Zeke? lol
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Sure, Elliott had less than 40 yards in that game. If Cook had played surely he would have accounted for more, at least 40....lol
Why doesn't Ohio State run the ball more? ND defense can't stop the run very well. Did that RB get hurt?
Nope, he's still there lol
Garnett said......You're comparing Conner Cook to Zeke? lol
Sure, Elliott had less than 40 yards in that game. If Cook had played surely he would have accounted for more, at least 40....lol
He only had 12 carries.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
What was the spread on the Vol's game? Geez. I guess they covered. An 8-4 SEC team looks better than a 10-2 Big Ten team, eh!? Maybe there is something to that "SEC bias!?"
Remember we were told that is terrible Tennessee team.
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I didn't watch the OSU/ND game but listened for a few minutes. Based on the score, at least, it's too bad OSU couldn't handle Michigan State because I have to think OSU would have given Alabama a better game than MSU did. I guess we will never know. Too bad they couldn't win their conference. Maybe next year!
I didn't watch it either. My eyes were glued on the Michigan-Florida game
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I didn't watch the OSU/ND game but listened for a few minutes. Based on the score, at least, it's too bad OSU couldn't handle Michigan State because I have to think OSU would have given Alabama a better game than MSU did. I guess we will never know. Too bad they couldn't win their conference. Maybe next year!
In garnettstyle's basement OSU is undefeated. Because that's where games are won. Certainly what happens on the field doesn't matter as much.
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Clemson beat Notre Dame by 2
Ohio State beat Notre Dame by 16
You be the judge.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Send me your address, I picked this up for you.
Michigan put a spanking on the SEC east champ.
Clemson beat Notre Dame by 2
Ohio State beat Notre Dame by 16
You be the judge.
Michigan State beat Ohio State 17-14
Alabama beat Michigan State 38-0
You be the judge.
These two Bowl games were just not compelling match ups-
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Michigan put a spanking on the SEC east champ.
Clemson beat Notre Dame by 2
Ohio State beat Notre Dame by 16
You be the judge.
Michigan State beat Ohio State 17-14
Alabama beat Michigan State 38-0
You be the judge.
Who won the last time Ohio State and Alabama played?
Ohio State has the same amount of losses as Alabama.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Somewhere earlier in this thread, probably close to 20-25 days ago, I posted that Ohio State-Stanford and Iowa-ND were the better match ups... well enough said.
These two Bowl games were just not compelling match ups-
Every game the last 2 days have not been close.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Garnettstyle,
Send me your address, I picked this up for you.
For me? What is it?
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Michigan put a spanking on the SEC east champ.
Clemson beat Notre Dame by 2
Ohio State beat Notre Dame by 16
You be the judge.
Michigan State beat Ohio State 17-14
Alabama beat Michigan State 38-0
You be the judge.
I should add that Stanford MORE than put a spanking on the big ten west champion. OMG. The score was not an accurate reflection of the game. It was not nearly as close as 45-16 looks. LOL. Iowa did NOTHING against Stanford and Stanford was kind and didn't run the score up. Worst Rose Bowl I can remember watching ever. I was rooting for the Hawkeyes but they just got obliterated. Sad.
What was the spread on the Vol's game? Geez. I guess they covered. An 8-4 SEC team looks better than a 10-2 Big Ten team, eh!? Maybe there is something to that "SEC bias!?"
Meanwhile an SEC division champion lost by 5 touchdowns to a team that finished 3rd in their division in the B1G...
Ole Miss is spanking Okla. St.
See the touchdown with 5 sec left in the half?
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress
Hard to say any one conference is dominating the bowl season thus far. Seems Pac 12, Big 10 and SEC all doing pretty well with some wins and some losses. Big 12 is struggling though. I can't remember any big wins by them!?
Lots of parity. Big 12 only 1 bowl win but have 3 games tomorrow. Despite Stanford winning today, the Big 10 did quite well against the Pac 12 this year.
Michigan State beat Oregon,
Nebraska beat UCLA,
Northwestern beat Stanford,
Wisconsin beat USC.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
SEC 6-2
PAC 12 6-2
Big 10 5-4
ACC 4-5
Big 12 1-3
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The Michigan State, Northwestern and Iowa beat downs were so predictable.
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What about the other beat downs? No close games at all.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
As long as the scheduling is determined by biased individuals we will have outcomes like we have had so far this season. It all makes me think about how the playoffs work in the NFL where home filed advantage is recognized and played for, only to have the most important game of the season played at some neutral and pre-determined location where the fans and the weather aren't a factor. It seems to be a set-up that satisfies the schedule makers more than the fans. Can you imagine an SEC Team playing in the upper Midwest during a Dec/Jan snowstorm?? That would be classic!! Or even Stanford having to travel to Iowa to play in a downpour at 40 degrees?? Probably not something to talk about in polite company.
My wife was watching the E channel marathon of "Botched"
the show about messed up plastic surgery. I found that more
interesting.
Ohio State is the best team in the Big Ten.
My overall impression of the games so far is that the "committee" and whoever it is that makes the choices in the various Bowl games didn't make very good choices this year. Whatever the criteria is for opponents it might be time for a change, just like it should be time for a change in the two-year-old Championship format. On the surface it seems everyone got one thing correct --- that Clemson vs. Alabama for the title is the right choice. That in itself may have been different if not for the other unwise picks when aligning the Top 25 to suite Bowl match-up committees. The entire process is sort of flawed. Even going back to the 1960's and the game I followed most closely, the Rose Bowl, the Big 10 Champion couldn't participate for two consecutive years(which meant the #2 Team played) in what always amounted to be a Home Game for the PAC 12 Champ.
As long as the scheduling is determined by biased individuals we will have outcomes like we have had so far this season. It all makes me think about how the playoffs work in the NFL where home filed advantage is recognized and played for, only to have the most important game of the season played at some neutral and pre-determined location where the fans and the weather aren't a factor. It seems to be a set-up that satisfies the schedule makers more than the fans. Can you imagine an SEC Team playing in the upper Midwest during a Dec/Jan snowstorm?? That would be classic!! Or even Stanford having to travel to Iowa to play in a downpour at 40 degrees?? Probably not something to talk about in polite company.
I think there should be a 8 team playoff, then the # 9 and #10 teams could whine.
I'd like to see Big 10 teams and fans come down south during the first few weeks of September and play in our heat. Heat index reaches 110 degrees in the shade. That would be X-rated.