Just released....Per Steve Harvey there has been a recount and Ohio State is now in the playoff!! RTR
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Clemson(in if they win) or NC, Stanford or Ohio state.
I think this is probably more likely
Oklahoma is in and could actually be the number 1 or 2 or 3 seed. They are probably the best team in the country at the moment.
Winner of MSU vs Iowa is in. Winner maybe a 1 or 2 seed
Winner of NC vs Clemson is in. NC would come in as a 4 seed with a win and Clemson as 1 one or 2 seed with a win. You were right about NC. The committee will place them 6 or 7 or 8 this week so they can justify a leap to 4 with a win over Clemson. Exactly like OSU last year. A Conference Champ NC 12-1 would have to get in
Alabama is in with a win. An Alabama loss puts Ohio State and Stanford in play ( if they beat USC) . This is the only scenario for them. Probably Stanford as a conference champ
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North Carolina has played 2 FCS opponents… which the committee Hates that's the real difference between the two . If Clemson loses and Stanford loses I think that will be enough. The pac12 championship will be Southern Cal which isn't making the playoffs and I don't think UNC would make it if they win the ACC.
Also North Carolina lost to a pathetic South Carolina team. You don't have to be a conference champion to get in. The committees job is to get the 4 best teams in. Buckeyes are the defending champions and are 24-1 in their last 25 games. There are not 4 or more teams better than them. The MSU loss is good loss. They never trailed in the entire game.
It's interesting earlier in this thread you picked North Carolina to be in your final four. They already lost at SC and played the two FcS opponents when you made made that statement. So what happened garnettstyle? Why the change of heart? Now they have all these warts. Oh, it's doesn't fit your M.O. anymore now does it? Ironic if they get in instead of OSU.
I doubt the committee wants to put a third place OSU team from the Big Ten in if they don't have to. Especially with a questionable resume via their schedule. Sadly it could happen with an Alabama and Stanford loss. A 12-1 Iowa team could also be in play. Do I think OSU could play with anyone in the nation? Of course. Do they deserve to play in the final four? Of course not. Their only win against anyone in shouting distance of the top 25 was now # 19 Michigan. What was their second best win? Their third best win?
If NC wins it will be their 12 win in a row and they will have beat the number one team in the nation in a championship game. I like it. FYI we will both be rooting for a Florida win over Alabama.
Garnettstyle, you aren't going to answer are you? What the change of heart? And what about OSU's top three wins. What were those again?
Go Gators!!
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Michigan, Northern Illinois , Virginia tech
Northern Illinois is playing for the MAC championship this Saturday.
Who has Alabama beat?
Today In probably the most lopsided bowl game in college history a 8-4 Boise State team beat Nothern Illinois 55-7. Boise State finished with 654 yards to Northern Illinois's 34 yards. But you are indeed correct in that Ohio States second best victory this year came against this very Northern Illinois team. By a touchdown. At home.
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Somewhat disappointing performance by the MAC thus far. 2-3 and the champion (BGSU) got slaughtered. Toledo looked very good against a good team, at least.
Originally posted by: garnettstyle Playoffs should like like this:
Alabama Oklahoma(probably) Winner of MSU vs Iowa Clemson(in if they win) or NC, Stanford or Ohio state.
I think this is probably more likely
Oklahoma is in and could actually be the number 1 or 2 or 3 seed. They are probably the best team in the country at the moment.
Winner of MSU vs Iowa is in. Winner maybe a 1 or 2 seed
Winner of NC vs Clemson is in. NC would come in as a 4 seed with a win and Clemson as 1 one or 2 seed with a win. You were right about NC. The committee will place them 6 or 7 or 8 this week so they can justify a leap to 4 with a win over Clemson. Exactly like OSU last year. A Conference Champ NC 12-1 would have to get in
Alabama is in with a win. An Alabama loss puts Ohio State and Stanford in play ( if they beat USC) . This is the only scenario for them. Probably Stanford as a conference champ
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North Carolina has played 2 FCS opponents… which the committee Hates that's the real difference between the two . If Clemson loses and Stanford loses I think that will be enough. The pac12 championship will be Southern Cal which isn't making the playoffs and I don't think UNC would make it if they win the ACC. Also North Carolina lost to a pathetic South Carolina team. You don't have to be a conference champion to get in. The committees job is to get the 4 best teams in. Buckeyes are the defending champions and are 24-1 in their last 25 games. There are not 4 or more teams better than them. The MSU loss is good loss. They never trailed in the entire game.
It's interesting earlier in this thread you picked North Carolina to be in your final four. They already lost at SC and played the two FcS opponents when you made made that statement. So what happened garnettstyle? Why the change of heart? Now they have all these warts. Oh, it's doesn't fit your M.O. anymore now does it? Ironic if they get in instead of OSU.
I doubt the committee wants to put a third place OSU team from the Big Ten in if they don't have to. Especially with a questionable resume via their schedule. Sadly it could happen with an Alabama and Stanford loss. A 12-1 Iowa team could also be in play. Do I think OSU could play with anyone in the nation? Of course. Do they deserve to play in the final four? Of course not. Their only win against anyone in shouting distance of the top 25 was now # 19 Michigan. What was their second best win? Their third best win?
If NC wins it will be their 12 win in a row and they will have beat the number one team in the nation in a championship game. I like it. FYI we will both be rooting for a Florida win over Alabama.
Garnettstyle, you aren't going to answer are you? What the change of heart? And what about OSU's top three wins. What were those again?
Go Gators!!
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Michigan, Northern Illinois , Virginia tech
Northern Illinois is playing for the MAC championship this Saturday.
Who has Alabama beat?
Today In probably the most lopsided bowl game in college history a 8-4 Boise State team beat Nothern Illinois 55-7. Boise State finished with 654 yards to Northern Illinois's 34 yards. But you are indeed correct in that Ohio States second best victory this year came against this very Northern Illinois team. By a touchdown. At home.
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And Northern Illinois beat a top 25 team(Toledo) so go figure.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Originally posted by: garnettstyle Playoffs should like like this:
Alabama Oklahoma(probably) Winner of MSU vs Iowa Clemson(in if they win) or NC, Stanford or Ohio state.
I think this is probably more likely
Oklahoma is in and could actually be the number 1 or 2 or 3 seed. They are probably the best team in the country at the moment.
Winner of MSU vs Iowa is in. Winner maybe a 1 or 2 seed
Winner of NC vs Clemson is in. NC would come in as a 4 seed with a win and Clemson as 1 one or 2 seed with a win. You were right about NC. The committee will place them 6 or 7 or 8 this week so they can justify a leap to 4 with a win over Clemson. Exactly like OSU last year. A Conference Champ NC 12-1 would have to get in
Alabama is in with a win. An Alabama loss puts Ohio State and Stanford in play ( if they beat USC) . This is the only scenario for them. Probably Stanford as a conference champ
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North Carolina has played 2 FCS opponents… which the committee Hates that's the real difference between the two . If Clemson loses and Stanford loses I think that will be enough. The pac12 championship will be Southern Cal which isn't making the playoffs and I don't think UNC would make it if they win the ACC. Also North Carolina lost to a pathetic South Carolina team. You don't have to be a conference champion to get in. The committees job is to get the 4 best teams in. Buckeyes are the defending champions and are 24-1 in their last 25 games. There are not 4 or more teams better than them. The MSU loss is good loss. They never trailed in the entire game.
It's interesting earlier in this thread you picked North Carolina to be in your final four. They already lost at SC and played the two FcS opponents when you made made that statement. So what happened garnettstyle? Why the change of heart? Now they have all these warts. Oh, it's doesn't fit your M.O. anymore now does it? Ironic if they get in instead of OSU.
I doubt the committee wants to put a third place OSU team from the Big Ten in if they don't have to. Especially with a questionable resume via their schedule. Sadly it could happen with an Alabama and Stanford loss. A 12-1 Iowa team could also be in play. Do I think OSU could play with anyone in the nation? Of course. Do they deserve to play in the final four? Of course not. Their only win against anyone in shouting distance of the top 25 was now # 19 Michigan. What was their second best win? Their third best win?
If NC wins it will be their 12 win in a row and they will have beat the number one team in the nation in a championship game. I like it. FYI we will both be rooting for a Florida win over Alabama.
Garnettstyle, you aren't going to answer are you? What the change of heart? And what about OSU's top three wins. What were those again?
Go Gators!!
mark
Michigan, Northern Illinois , Virginia tech
Northern Illinois is playing for the MAC championship this Saturday.
Who has Alabama beat?
Today In probably the most lopsided bowl game in college history a 8-4 Boise State team beat Nothern Illinois 55-7. Boise State finished with 654 yards to Northern Illinois's 34 yards. But you are indeed correct in that Ohio States second best victory this year came against this very Northern Illinois team. By a touchdown. At home.
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And Northern Illinois beat a top 25 team(Toledo) so go figure.
I am no mathematician but I need help to "figure" this. Northern Illinois got spanked by lowly Boise State. SPANKED, SPANKED, SPANKED. An epic bowl beat down of all time. There is no "figuring" to be done. You can go to the so and so beat so and so who beat so and so, blah, blah, blah.... However, you can't refute Northern Illinois was one of Ohio State's best wins and this epic beat down by Boise shows you the committee was right to leave Ohio State at home. Merry Christmas though!
Originally posted by: garnettstyle Playoffs should like like this:
Alabama Oklahoma(probably) Winner of MSU vs Iowa Clemson(in if they win) or NC, Stanford or Ohio state.
I think this is probably more likely
Oklahoma is in and could actually be the number 1 or 2 or 3 seed. They are probably the best team in the country at the moment.
Winner of MSU vs Iowa is in. Winner maybe a 1 or 2 seed
Winner of NC vs Clemson is in. NC would come in as a 4 seed with a win and Clemson as 1 one or 2 seed with a win. You were right about NC. The committee will place them 6 or 7 or 8 this week so they can justify a leap to 4 with a win over Clemson. Exactly like OSU last year. A Conference Champ NC 12-1 would have to get in
Alabama is in with a win. An Alabama loss puts Ohio State and Stanford in play ( if they beat USC) . This is the only scenario for them. Probably Stanford as a conference champ
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North Carolina has played 2 FCS opponents… which the committee Hates that's the real difference between the two . If Clemson loses and Stanford loses I think that will be enough. The pac12 championship will be Southern Cal which isn't making the playoffs and I don't think UNC would make it if they win the ACC. Also North Carolina lost to a pathetic South Carolina team. You don't have to be a conference champion to get in. The committees job is to get the 4 best teams in. Buckeyes are the defending champions and are 24-1 in their last 25 games. There are not 4 or more teams better than them. The MSU loss is good loss. They never trailed in the entire game.
It's interesting earlier in this thread you picked North Carolina to be in your final four. They already lost at SC and played the two FcS opponents when you made made that statement. So what happened garnettstyle? Why the change of heart? Now they have all these warts. Oh, it's doesn't fit your M.O. anymore now does it? Ironic if they get in instead of OSU.
I doubt the committee wants to put a third place OSU team from the Big Ten in if they don't have to. Especially with a questionable resume via their schedule. Sadly it could happen with an Alabama and Stanford loss. A 12-1 Iowa team could also be in play. Do I think OSU could play with anyone in the nation? Of course. Do they deserve to play in the final four? Of course not. Their only win against anyone in shouting distance of the top 25 was now # 19 Michigan. What was their second best win? Their third best win?
If NC wins it will be their 12 win in a row and they will have beat the number one team in the nation in a championship game. I like it. FYI we will both be rooting for a Florida win over Alabama.
Garnettstyle, you aren't going to answer are you? What the change of heart? And what about OSU's top three wins. What were those again?
Go Gators!!
mark
Michigan, Northern Illinois , Virginia tech
Northern Illinois is playing for the MAC championship this Saturday.
Who has Alabama beat?
Today In probably the most lopsided bowl game in college history a 8-4 Boise State team beat Nothern Illinois 55-7. Boise State finished with 654 yards to Northern Illinois's 34 yards. But you are indeed correct in that Ohio States second best victory this year came against this very Northern Illinois team. By a touchdown. At home.
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And Northern Illinois beat a top 25 team(Toledo) so go figure.
I am no mathematician but I need help to "figure" this. Northern Illinois got spanked by lowly Boise State. SPANKED, SPANKED, SPANKED. An epic bowl beat down of all time. There is no "figuring" to be done. You can go to the so and so beat so and so who beat so and so, blah, blah, blah.... However, you can't refute Northern Illinois was one of Ohio State's best wins and this epic beat down by Boise shows you the committee was right to leave Ohio State at home. Merry Christmas though!
By your logic the committee should've left out Oklahoma because they got beat by lowly Texas..a team with a losing record....who lost to lowly Iowa State 24-0.
And I wouldn't call Boise State lowly. They have been a football power for many years now.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Originally posted by: garnettstyle Playoffs should like like this:
Alabama Oklahoma(probably) Winner of MSU vs Iowa Clemson(in if they win) or NC, Stanford or Ohio state.
I think this is probably more likely
Oklahoma is in and could actually be the number 1 or 2 or 3 seed. They are probably the best team in the country at the moment.
Winner of MSU vs Iowa is in. Winner maybe a 1 or 2 seed
Winner of NC vs Clemson is in. NC would come in as a 4 seed with a win and Clemson as 1 one or 2 seed with a win. You were right about NC. The committee will place them 6 or 7 or 8 this week so they can justify a leap to 4 with a win over Clemson. Exactly like OSU last year. A Conference Champ NC 12-1 would have to get in
Alabama is in with a win. An Alabama loss puts Ohio State and Stanford in play ( if they beat USC) . This is the only scenario for them. Probably Stanford as a conference champ
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North Carolina has played 2 FCS opponents… which the committee Hates that's the real difference between the two . If Clemson loses and Stanford loses I think that will be enough. The pac12 championship will be Southern Cal which isn't making the playoffs and I don't think UNC would make it if they win the ACC. Also North Carolina lost to a pathetic South Carolina team. You don't have to be a conference champion to get in. The committees job is to get the 4 best teams in. Buckeyes are the defending champions and are 24-1 in their last 25 games. There are not 4 or more teams better than them. The MSU loss is good loss. They never trailed in the entire game.
It's interesting earlier in this thread you picked North Carolina to be in your final four. They already lost at SC and played the two FcS opponents when you made made that statement. So what happened garnettstyle? Why the change of heart? Now they have all these warts. Oh, it's doesn't fit your M.O. anymore now does it? Ironic if they get in instead of OSU.
I doubt the committee wants to put a third place OSU team from the Big Ten in if they don't have to. Especially with a questionable resume via their schedule. Sadly it could happen with an Alabama and Stanford loss. A 12-1 Iowa team could also be in play. Do I think OSU could play with anyone in the nation? Of course. Do they deserve to play in the final four? Of course not. Their only win against anyone in shouting distance of the top 25 was now # 19 Michigan. What was their second best win? Their third best win?
If NC wins it will be their 12 win in a row and they will have beat the number one team in the nation in a championship game. I like it. FYI we will both be rooting for a Florida win over Alabama.
Garnettstyle, you aren't going to answer are you? What the change of heart? And what about OSU's top three wins. What were those again?
Go Gators!!
mark
Michigan, Northern Illinois , Virginia tech
Northern Illinois is playing for the MAC championship this Saturday.
Who has Alabama beat?
Today In probably the most lopsided bowl game in college history a 8-4 Boise State team beat Nothern Illinois 55-7. Boise State finished with 654 yards to Northern Illinois's 34 yards. But you are indeed correct in that Ohio States second best victory this year came against this very Northern Illinois team. By a touchdown. At home.
mark
And Northern Illinois beat a top 25 team(Toledo) so go figure.
I am no mathematician but I need help to "figure" this. Northern Illinois got spanked by lowly Boise State. SPANKED, SPANKED, SPANKED. An epic bowl beat down of all time. There is no "figuring" to be done. You can go to the so and so beat so and so who beat so and so, blah, blah, blah.... However, you can't refute Northern Illinois was one of Ohio State's best wins and this epic beat down by Boise shows you the committee was right to leave Ohio State at home. Merry Christmas though!
By your logic the committee should've left out Oklahoma because they got beat by lowly Texas..a team with a losing record....who lost to lowly Iowa State 24-0.
And I wouldn't call Boise State lowly. They have been a football power for many years now.
The question is not losses but wins. So Oklahoma's loss to Texas is not relevant. The question is wins. If Ohio State's "good" win is beating Northern Illinois that's clearly not a very good win. Oklahoma beat several top 25 teams. We are not comparing losses. Clearly Oklahoma's loss to Texas is worse than Ohio State's loss but in terms of wins Ohio State has nothing. They played a VERY soft schedule and lost to the only top team they played. They thus were rightfully left out of the playoffs. The Boise State beat down helped confirm that decision for anybody paying attention and unbiased.
Wouldn't had made any difference if Northern Illinois beat Boise state. The haters would still be saying 'Ohio State played a soft schedule blah blah blah.'
If they destroy Notre Dame, it will confirm that the committee DID make a mistake.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
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Originally posted by: Tabe The committee didn't make a mistake leaving Ohio at home. However, they killed a quality Michigan team. That's a good win, for sure.
So one win against a decent team. So the Ohio State resume reads: "Our one loss was a close game against a playoff team, we beat a decent Michigan team, and we won the rest of our games against nobodies."
Wouldn't had made any difference if Northern Illinois beat Boise state. The haters would still be saying 'Ohio State played a soft schedule blah blah blah.'
If they destroy Notre Dame, it will confirm that the committee DID make a mistake.
OSU wasn't even considered so no mistake could be made. They were number seven for a reason.
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Originally posted by: garnettstyle Wouldn't had made any difference if Northern Illinois beat Boise state. The haters would still be saying 'Ohio State played a soft schedule blah blah blah.'
If they destroy Notre Dame, it will confirm that the committee DID make a mistake.
OSU wasn't even considered so no mistake could be made. They were number seven for a reason.
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They have the same amount of losses as 3 out of the 4 playoff teams.
They are #5 in the coaches poll and #4 in computer rankings.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
The Northern Illinois, Boise State game has no bearing on whether or not OSU deserves to be in the final four. If the Buckeyes lose to Notre Dame or blow them out also is not in the equation. The determining factor is they lost to Michigan State. End of discussion.
Wouldn't had made any difference if Northern Illinois beat Boise state. The haters would still be saying 'Ohio State played a soft schedule blah blah blah.'
If they destroy Notre Dame, it will confirm that the committee DID make a mistake.
OSU wasn't even considered so no mistake could be made. They were number seven for a reason.
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They have the same amount of losses as 3 out of the 4 playoff teams.
They are #5 in the coaches poll and #4 in computer rankings.
#7 in the only poll that matters. And Brick you are indeed correct
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Damn, this happened tonight in my hometown. I took this pic off of my office balcony. All of a sudden football games don't mean a whole lot to me. Just wanted to say hug your loved ones tonight. Me and my family are fine. Estimated 50 families lost their house. Ctazy stuff. Was watching the Duke game and made a beeline to the courthouse basement to ride out the storm. Not looking forward to what daylight reveals 2morrow.
Damn, this happened tonight in my hometown. I took this pic off of my office balcony. All of a sudden football games don't mean a whole lot to me. Just wanted to say hug your loved ones tonight. Me and my family are fine. Estimated 50 families lost their house. Ctazy stuff. Was watching the Duke game and made a beeline to the courthouse basement to ride out the storm. Not looking forward to what daylight reveals 2morrow.
So glad your family is ok. Devasting thing. Awful
You are correct all of a sudden 18-21 year old kids playing football doesn't seem all that important
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Originally posted by: garnettstyle Wouldn't had made any difference if Northern Illinois beat Boise state. The haters would still be saying 'Ohio State played a soft schedule blah blah blah.'
If they destroy Notre Dame, it will confirm that the committee DID make a mistake.
OSU wasn't even considered so no mistake could be made. They were number seven for a reason.
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They have the same amount of losses as 3 out of the 4 playoff teams.
They are #5 in the coaches poll and #4 in computer rankings.
#7 in the only poll that matters.
mark
Wrong. The committee doesn't have a end of season final poll. Only coaches and ap.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Wouldn't had made any difference if Northern Illinois beat Boise state. The haters would still be saying 'Ohio State played a soft schedule blah blah blah.'
If they destroy Notre Dame, it will confirm that the committee DID make a mistake.
OSU wasn't even considered so no mistake could be made. They were number seven for a reason.
mark
They have the same amount of losses as 3 out of the 4 playoff teams.
They are #5 in the coaches poll and #4 in computer rankings.
#7 in the only poll that matters.
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Wrong. The committee doesn't have a end of season final poll. Only coaches and ap.
They were ranked #7 in the only poll that matters being the selection committees final rankings. Let me remind you that they had six teams ahead of OSU. That would make them #7. They are not playing in the playoffs. They are a non factor. Get over it already.
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Bad game by UCLA. No excuses. They got beat by a bad team. On a jet blue flight tonight so watched the whole thing. Never would have watched if I wasn't on a five hour flight. Oh well. UCLA should be good next year though.
Originally posted by: larryallen73 Bad game by UCLA. No excuses. They got beat by a bad team. On a jet blue flight tonight so watched the whole thing. Never would have watched if I wasn't on a five hour flight. Oh well. UCLA should be good next year though.
By record, it certainly looks like Nebraska is bad. However they played some of their best football the last few games. Only team to beat Michigan State.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
A couple interesting side notes to the UCLA/NB game:
1) One of UCLA's players couldn't play because he already signed with an agent. Perhaps Nebraska had someone like that too. What a shame that the games mean so little that players skip it to preserve their bodies for the pros. I mean it makes sense but it's sad. At least the other UCLA players pretended to play. As the guy on Mad-dog sports said, this morning, it's a "business decision" for some players to not try in these games. He was talking about the lower bowls and the meaningless NFL games.
2) The Nebraska safety made a nice play on a UCLA player in the first half. A hard hit but it was football. Penalty against Nebraska and I think the guy was thrown out of the game for targeting. The hit was half as hard as UCLA's Matt Darby against a Nebraska player in the 1988 game and there was no flag thrown. I understand protecting the players but it's football and it's dangerous!
A 5-7 team beat 8-4 UCLA. Good win for the Big Ten.
Evens out the bad loss from favorite Indiana earlier in the day. Dukes first bowl win since 1960.
That was a bad loss for the Big Ten
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Originally posted by: garnettstyle A 5-7 team beat 8-4 UCLA. Good win for the Big Ten.
Evens out the bad loss from favorite Indiana earlier in the day. Dukes first bowl win since 1960.
That was a bad loss for the Big Ten
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How was it was bad loss? Indiana rarely goes to a bowl game and Duke had a better record. Not to mention Duke was ranked in the top 25 during the season.
It was also ended on a controversial play. Mark May said the field goal was good.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
A 5-7 team beat 8-4 UCLA. Good win for the Big Ten.
Evens out the bad loss from favorite Indiana earlier in the day. Dukes first bowl win since 1960.
That was a bad loss for the Big Ten
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How was it was bad loss? Indiana rarely goes to a bowl game and Duke had a better record. Not to mention Duke was ranked in the top 25 during the season.
It was also ended on a controversial play. Mark May said the field goal was good.
So now you are listening to Mark May! Priceless. Indiana was favored by 3.
By the way the field goal for the tie was no good.
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Originally posted by: garnettstyle A 5-7 team beat 8-4 UCLA. Good win for the Big Ten.
Evens out the bad loss from favorite Indiana earlier in the day. Dukes first bowl win since 1960.
That was a bad loss for the Big Ten
mark
How was it was bad loss? Indiana rarely goes to a bowl game and Duke had a better record. Not to mention Duke was ranked in the top 25 during the season.
It was also ended on a controversial play. Mark May said the field goal was good.
So now you are listening to Mark May! Priceless. Indiana was favored by 3.
By the way the field goal for the tie was no good.
mark
Field goal was good. Bad call by the officials.
No one was surprised Duke won the game. NO ONE!!
To say it was a bad loss by Indiana is just trolling.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
A 5-7 team beat 8-4 UCLA. Good win for the Big Ten.
Evens out the bad loss from favorite Indiana earlier in the day. Dukes first bowl win since 1960.
That was a bad loss for the Big Ten
mark
How was it was bad loss? Indiana rarely goes to a bowl game and Duke had a better record. Not to mention Duke was ranked in the top 25 during the season.
It was also ended on a controversial play. Mark May said the field goal was good.
So now you are listening to Mark May! Priceless. Indiana was favored by 3.
By the way the field goal for the tie was no good.
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Field goal was good. Bad call by the officials.
No one was surprised Duke won the game. NO ONE!!
To say it was a bad loss by Indiana is just trolling.
It was ruled no good so it was no good. The only one who had a good look at it was the official right under the goal post. Indiana was FAVORED so obviously a lot of people were surprised.
You are so transparent.When the Big Ten wins its a good win. When the Big Ten loses it was a good loss.
You embarrass me as a Big Ten fan. That's the only reason I keep you in check. It's my civic duty Fan Boy
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Many people also thought it was no good. The only one that matters is the one with the best look that made the call. It's not reviewable for a reason as angles can be deceptive. Even the link you just posted said the following:
"The replay from the view below the upright seemed to show the kick was on the inside of the goal post, however, the replay may have been from an odd camera angle. I thought the kick would have deflected off the upright and not gone in, but it’s really a hard thing to say. The kick is not something that is reviewable, so Duke goes home a winner."
That is your proof? This proves it? Even your "proof" says there no proof. Are you kidding? Desperate much?
fyi I was not surprised at all that Nebraska won yesterday and neither were many others. I never said I was surprised that Indiana lost. I did say was a bad loss for the Big Ten. If the Big 10 hoped to have a better then .500 bowl record they probably needed that game.
So let me get this straight. Indiana is favored by a field goal and loses and it's a good loss? . Nebraska is a touchdown underdog and it's a good win?
You alibi every loss that doesn't go your way. You cry about officiating, bad breaks, bad weather, perceived bias, injuries, conspiracies. You always have an excuse. You flip flop when it no longer fits your point. You use strawman arguments. You use one persons opinion to try actually validate your position. Even those who you have called idiots in the past.
To further illustrate your ignorance you refer to others as idiots. That's actually a sign you are losing a debate badly. Committee members, pollsters, analysts and anyone who doesn't agree with you are deemed idiots by you. When you think of it, coming from you it's actually a compliment. I think you may have anger management issues.
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I would say the Indiana field goal looks good in one video, not good in the other.
Nebraska is a good team.
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Hey, Mark May said it was good so case closed!
Yes, UCLA would agree that Nebraska is a good team... at least in hindsight in case UCLA didn't go into the game thinking that.
FYI Indiana's coach said the field goal was no good.
UCLA was in a no win situation
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100% percent agree. It was UCLA's own fault for not beating U$C and avoiding that game but it was a no-win situation. However, those are games you have to find a way to get out with a W. When UCLA scored two easy touchdowns I felt pretty confident but I was worried about their lack of defense and inability to sustain a drive. The third quarter furthered both of those problems. Oh well. At least in the game of life it means nothing.
Q. Kevin, in your mind, was the field goal good or not good? What explanation did you get?
COACH WILSON: There's no explanation. It wasn't good. You can sit there and look at it. But when I saw the scoreboard, to me, it looks like it travels outside the bar, hooks in, on the other side of the goal post. Bottom line, you don't win a lot of games with field goals.
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Q. Kevin, in your mind, was the field goal good or not good? What explanation did you get?
COACH WILSON: There's no explanation. It wasn't good. You can sit there and look at it. But when I saw the scoreboard, to me, it looks like it travels outside the bar, hooks in, on the other side of the goal post. Bottom line, you don't win a lot of games with field goals.
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That's clearly just SEC bias. Ohio State got robbed. Blah, blah, blah.
One question and another thought.........................
The question --- Can someone compile an ongoing list of how the P5 Conferences do through the post season?? Initially it looks like the ACC has had it pretty bad.
The thought --- With all the emphasis that gets placed on what I consider a bogus statistic(strength of schedule) and the way it influences the rankings, perhaps a revised strength of schedule should be posted after all the games are played to give a better idea of who really played the best Teams and how the rankings didn't accurately reflect that.
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Just released....Per Steve Harvey there has been a recount and Ohio State is now in the playoff!! RTR
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Playoffs should like like this:
Alabama
Oklahoma(probably)
Winner of MSU vs Iowa
Clemson(in if they win) or NC, Stanford or Ohio state.
I think this is probably more likely
Oklahoma is in and could actually be the number 1 or 2 or 3 seed. They are probably the best team in the country at the moment.
Winner of MSU vs Iowa is in. Winner maybe a 1 or 2 seed
Winner of NC vs Clemson is in. NC would come in as a 4 seed with a win and Clemson as 1 one or 2 seed with a win. You were right about NC. The committee will place them 6 or 7 or 8 this week so they can justify a leap to 4 with a win over Clemson. Exactly like OSU last year. A Conference Champ NC 12-1 would have to get in
Alabama is in with a win. An Alabama loss puts Ohio State and Stanford in play ( if they beat USC) . This is the only scenario for them. Probably Stanford as a conference champ
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North Carolina has played 2 FCS opponents… which the committee Hates that's the real difference between the two . If Clemson loses and Stanford loses I think that will be enough. The pac12 championship will be Southern Cal which isn't making the playoffs and I don't think UNC would make it if they win the ACC.
Also North Carolina lost to a pathetic South Carolina team. You don't have to be a conference champion to get in. The committees job is to get the 4 best teams in. Buckeyes are the defending champions and are 24-1 in their last 25 games. There are not 4 or more teams better than them. The MSU loss is good loss. They never trailed in the entire game.
It's interesting earlier in this thread you picked North Carolina to be in your final four. They already lost at SC and played the two FcS opponents when you made made that statement. So what happened garnettstyle? Why the change of heart? Now they have all these warts. Oh, it's doesn't fit your M.O. anymore now does it? Ironic if they get in instead of OSU.
I doubt the committee wants to put a third place OSU team from the Big Ten in if they don't have to. Especially with a questionable resume via their schedule. Sadly it could happen with an Alabama and Stanford loss. A 12-1 Iowa team could also be in play. Do I think OSU could play with anyone in the nation? Of course. Do they deserve to play in the final four? Of course not. Their only win against anyone in shouting distance of the top 25 was now # 19 Michigan. What was their second best win? Their third best win?
If NC wins it will be their 12 win in a row and they will have beat the number one team in the nation in a championship game. I like it. FYI we will both be rooting for a Florida win over Alabama.
mark
like I was saying
Garnettstyle, you aren't going to answer are you? What the change of heart? And what about OSU's top three wins. What were those again?
Go Gators!!
mark
Michigan, Northern Illinois , Virginia tech
Northern Illinois is playing for the MAC championship this Saturday.
Who has Alabama beat?
Today In probably the most lopsided bowl game in college history a 8-4 Boise State team beat Nothern Illinois 55-7. Boise State finished with 654 yards to Northern Illinois's 34 yards. But you are indeed correct in that Ohio States second best victory this year came against this very Northern Illinois team. By a touchdown. At home.
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Playoffs should like like this:
Alabama
Oklahoma(probably)
Winner of MSU vs Iowa
Clemson(in if they win) or NC, Stanford or Ohio state.
I think this is probably more likely
Oklahoma is in and could actually be the number 1 or 2 or 3 seed. They are probably the best team in the country at the moment.
Winner of MSU vs Iowa is in. Winner maybe a 1 or 2 seed
Winner of NC vs Clemson is in. NC would come in as a 4 seed with a win and Clemson as 1 one or 2 seed with a win. You were right about NC. The committee will place them 6 or 7 or 8 this week so they can justify a leap to 4 with a win over Clemson. Exactly like OSU last year. A Conference Champ NC 12-1 would have to get in
Alabama is in with a win. An Alabama loss puts Ohio State and Stanford in play ( if they beat USC) . This is the only scenario for them. Probably Stanford as a conference champ
mark
North Carolina has played 2 FCS opponents… which the committee Hates that's the real difference between the two . If Clemson loses and Stanford loses I think that will be enough. The pac12 championship will be Southern Cal which isn't making the playoffs and I don't think UNC would make it if they win the ACC.
Also North Carolina lost to a pathetic South Carolina team. You don't have to be a conference champion to get in. The committees job is to get the 4 best teams in. Buckeyes are the defending champions and are 24-1 in their last 25 games. There are not 4 or more teams better than them. The MSU loss is good loss. They never trailed in the entire game.
It's interesting earlier in this thread you picked North Carolina to be in your final four. They already lost at SC and played the two FcS opponents when you made made that statement. So what happened garnettstyle? Why the change of heart? Now they have all these warts. Oh, it's doesn't fit your M.O. anymore now does it? Ironic if they get in instead of OSU.
I doubt the committee wants to put a third place OSU team from the Big Ten in if they don't have to. Especially with a questionable resume via their schedule. Sadly it could happen with an Alabama and Stanford loss. A 12-1 Iowa team could also be in play. Do I think OSU could play with anyone in the nation? Of course. Do they deserve to play in the final four? Of course not. Their only win against anyone in shouting distance of the top 25 was now # 19 Michigan. What was their second best win? Their third best win?
If NC wins it will be their 12 win in a row and they will have beat the number one team in the nation in a championship game. I like it. FYI we will both be rooting for a Florida win over Alabama.
mark
like I was saying
Garnettstyle, you aren't going to answer are you? What the change of heart? And what about OSU's top three wins. What were those again?
Go Gators!!
mark
Michigan, Northern Illinois , Virginia tech
Northern Illinois is playing for the MAC championship this Saturday.
Who has Alabama beat?
Today In probably the most lopsided bowl game in college history a 8-4 Boise State team beat Nothern Illinois 55-7. Boise State finished with 654 yards to Northern Illinois's 34 yards. But you are indeed correct in that Ohio States second best victory this year came against this very Northern Illinois team. By a touchdown. At home.
mark
And Northern Illinois beat a top 25 team(Toledo) so go figure.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Playoffs should like like this:
Alabama
Oklahoma(probably)
Winner of MSU vs Iowa
Clemson(in if they win) or NC, Stanford or Ohio state.
I think this is probably more likely
Oklahoma is in and could actually be the number 1 or 2 or 3 seed. They are probably the best team in the country at the moment.
Winner of MSU vs Iowa is in. Winner maybe a 1 or 2 seed
Winner of NC vs Clemson is in. NC would come in as a 4 seed with a win and Clemson as 1 one or 2 seed with a win. You were right about NC. The committee will place them 6 or 7 or 8 this week so they can justify a leap to 4 with a win over Clemson. Exactly like OSU last year. A Conference Champ NC 12-1 would have to get in
Alabama is in with a win. An Alabama loss puts Ohio State and Stanford in play ( if they beat USC) . This is the only scenario for them. Probably Stanford as a conference champ
mark
North Carolina has played 2 FCS opponents… which the committee Hates that's the real difference between the two . If Clemson loses and Stanford loses I think that will be enough. The pac12 championship will be Southern Cal which isn't making the playoffs and I don't think UNC would make it if they win the ACC.
Also North Carolina lost to a pathetic South Carolina team. You don't have to be a conference champion to get in. The committees job is to get the 4 best teams in. Buckeyes are the defending champions and are 24-1 in their last 25 games. There are not 4 or more teams better than them. The MSU loss is good loss. They never trailed in the entire game.
It's interesting earlier in this thread you picked North Carolina to be in your final four. They already lost at SC and played the two FcS opponents when you made made that statement. So what happened garnettstyle? Why the change of heart? Now they have all these warts. Oh, it's doesn't fit your M.O. anymore now does it? Ironic if they get in instead of OSU.
I doubt the committee wants to put a third place OSU team from the Big Ten in if they don't have to. Especially with a questionable resume via their schedule. Sadly it could happen with an Alabama and Stanford loss. A 12-1 Iowa team could also be in play. Do I think OSU could play with anyone in the nation? Of course. Do they deserve to play in the final four? Of course not. Their only win against anyone in shouting distance of the top 25 was now # 19 Michigan. What was their second best win? Their third best win?
If NC wins it will be their 12 win in a row and they will have beat the number one team in the nation in a championship game. I like it. FYI we will both be rooting for a Florida win over Alabama.
mark
like I was saying
Garnettstyle, you aren't going to answer are you? What the change of heart? And what about OSU's top three wins. What were those again?
Go Gators!!
mark
Michigan, Northern Illinois , Virginia tech
Northern Illinois is playing for the MAC championship this Saturday.
Who has Alabama beat?
Today In probably the most lopsided bowl game in college history a 8-4 Boise State team beat Nothern Illinois 55-7. Boise State finished with 654 yards to Northern Illinois's 34 yards. But you are indeed correct in that Ohio States second best victory this year came against this very Northern Illinois team. By a touchdown. At home.
mark
And Northern Illinois beat a top 25 team(Toledo) so go figure.
I am no mathematician but I need help to "figure" this. Northern Illinois got spanked by lowly Boise State. SPANKED, SPANKED, SPANKED. An epic bowl beat down of all time. There is no "figuring" to be done. You can go to the so and so beat so and so who beat so and so, blah, blah, blah.... However, you can't refute Northern Illinois was one of Ohio State's best wins and this epic beat down by Boise shows you the committee was right to leave Ohio State at home. Merry Christmas though!
Playoffs should like like this:
Alabama
Oklahoma(probably)
Winner of MSU vs Iowa
Clemson(in if they win) or NC, Stanford or Ohio state.
I think this is probably more likely
Oklahoma is in and could actually be the number 1 or 2 or 3 seed. They are probably the best team in the country at the moment.
Winner of MSU vs Iowa is in. Winner maybe a 1 or 2 seed
Winner of NC vs Clemson is in. NC would come in as a 4 seed with a win and Clemson as 1 one or 2 seed with a win. You were right about NC. The committee will place them 6 or 7 or 8 this week so they can justify a leap to 4 with a win over Clemson. Exactly like OSU last year. A Conference Champ NC 12-1 would have to get in
Alabama is in with a win. An Alabama loss puts Ohio State and Stanford in play ( if they beat USC) . This is the only scenario for them. Probably Stanford as a conference champ
mark
North Carolina has played 2 FCS opponents… which the committee Hates that's the real difference between the two . If Clemson loses and Stanford loses I think that will be enough. The pac12 championship will be Southern Cal which isn't making the playoffs and I don't think UNC would make it if they win the ACC.
Also North Carolina lost to a pathetic South Carolina team. You don't have to be a conference champion to get in. The committees job is to get the 4 best teams in. Buckeyes are the defending champions and are 24-1 in their last 25 games. There are not 4 or more teams better than them. The MSU loss is good loss. They never trailed in the entire game.
It's interesting earlier in this thread you picked North Carolina to be in your final four. They already lost at SC and played the two FcS opponents when you made made that statement. So what happened garnettstyle? Why the change of heart? Now they have all these warts. Oh, it's doesn't fit your M.O. anymore now does it? Ironic if they get in instead of OSU.
I doubt the committee wants to put a third place OSU team from the Big Ten in if they don't have to. Especially with a questionable resume via their schedule. Sadly it could happen with an Alabama and Stanford loss. A 12-1 Iowa team could also be in play. Do I think OSU could play with anyone in the nation? Of course. Do they deserve to play in the final four? Of course not. Their only win against anyone in shouting distance of the top 25 was now # 19 Michigan. What was their second best win? Their third best win?
If NC wins it will be their 12 win in a row and they will have beat the number one team in the nation in a championship game. I like it. FYI we will both be rooting for a Florida win over Alabama.
mark
like I was saying
Garnettstyle, you aren't going to answer are you? What the change of heart? And what about OSU's top three wins. What were those again?
Go Gators!!
mark
Michigan, Northern Illinois , Virginia tech
Northern Illinois is playing for the MAC championship this Saturday.
Who has Alabama beat?
Today In probably the most lopsided bowl game in college history a 8-4 Boise State team beat Nothern Illinois 55-7. Boise State finished with 654 yards to Northern Illinois's 34 yards. But you are indeed correct in that Ohio States second best victory this year came against this very Northern Illinois team. By a touchdown. At home.
mark
And Northern Illinois beat a top 25 team(Toledo) so go figure.
I am no mathematician but I need help to "figure" this. Northern Illinois got spanked by lowly Boise State. SPANKED, SPANKED, SPANKED. An epic bowl beat down of all time. There is no "figuring" to be done. You can go to the so and so beat so and so who beat so and so, blah, blah, blah.... However, you can't refute Northern Illinois was one of Ohio State's best wins and this epic beat down by Boise shows you the committee was right to leave Ohio State at home. Merry Christmas though!
By your logic the committee should've left out Oklahoma because they got beat by lowly Texas..a team with a losing record....who lost to lowly Iowa State 24-0.
And I wouldn't call Boise State lowly. They have been a football power for many years now.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Playoffs should like like this:
Alabama
Oklahoma(probably)
Winner of MSU vs Iowa
Clemson(in if they win) or NC, Stanford or Ohio state.
I think this is probably more likely
Oklahoma is in and could actually be the number 1 or 2 or 3 seed. They are probably the best team in the country at the moment.
Winner of MSU vs Iowa is in. Winner maybe a 1 or 2 seed
Winner of NC vs Clemson is in. NC would come in as a 4 seed with a win and Clemson as 1 one or 2 seed with a win. You were right about NC. The committee will place them 6 or 7 or 8 this week so they can justify a leap to 4 with a win over Clemson. Exactly like OSU last year. A Conference Champ NC 12-1 would have to get in
Alabama is in with a win. An Alabama loss puts Ohio State and Stanford in play ( if they beat USC) . This is the only scenario for them. Probably Stanford as a conference champ
mark
North Carolina has played 2 FCS opponents… which the committee Hates that's the real difference between the two . If Clemson loses and Stanford loses I think that will be enough. The pac12 championship will be Southern Cal which isn't making the playoffs and I don't think UNC would make it if they win the ACC.
Also North Carolina lost to a pathetic South Carolina team. You don't have to be a conference champion to get in. The committees job is to get the 4 best teams in. Buckeyes are the defending champions and are 24-1 in their last 25 games. There are not 4 or more teams better than them. The MSU loss is good loss. They never trailed in the entire game.
It's interesting earlier in this thread you picked North Carolina to be in your final four. They already lost at SC and played the two FcS opponents when you made made that statement. So what happened garnettstyle? Why the change of heart? Now they have all these warts. Oh, it's doesn't fit your M.O. anymore now does it? Ironic if they get in instead of OSU.
I doubt the committee wants to put a third place OSU team from the Big Ten in if they don't have to. Especially with a questionable resume via their schedule. Sadly it could happen with an Alabama and Stanford loss. A 12-1 Iowa team could also be in play. Do I think OSU could play with anyone in the nation? Of course. Do they deserve to play in the final four? Of course not. Their only win against anyone in shouting distance of the top 25 was now # 19 Michigan. What was their second best win? Their third best win?
If NC wins it will be their 12 win in a row and they will have beat the number one team in the nation in a championship game. I like it. FYI we will both be rooting for a Florida win over Alabama.
mark
like I was saying
Garnettstyle, you aren't going to answer are you? What the change of heart? And what about OSU's top three wins. What were those again?
Go Gators!!
mark
Michigan, Northern Illinois , Virginia tech
Northern Illinois is playing for the MAC championship this Saturday.
Who has Alabama beat?
Today In probably the most lopsided bowl game in college history a 8-4 Boise State team beat Nothern Illinois 55-7. Boise State finished with 654 yards to Northern Illinois's 34 yards. But you are indeed correct in that Ohio States second best victory this year came against this very Northern Illinois team. By a touchdown. At home.
mark
And Northern Illinois beat a top 25 team(Toledo) so go figure.
I am no mathematician but I need help to "figure" this. Northern Illinois got spanked by lowly Boise State. SPANKED, SPANKED, SPANKED. An epic bowl beat down of all time. There is no "figuring" to be done. You can go to the so and so beat so and so who beat so and so, blah, blah, blah.... However, you can't refute Northern Illinois was one of Ohio State's best wins and this epic beat down by Boise shows you the committee was right to leave Ohio State at home. Merry Christmas though!
By your logic the committee should've left out Oklahoma because they got beat by lowly Texas..a team with a losing record....who lost to lowly Iowa State 24-0.
And I wouldn't call Boise State lowly. They have been a football power for many years now.
The question is not losses but wins. So Oklahoma's loss to Texas is not relevant. The question is wins. If Ohio State's "good" win is beating Northern Illinois that's clearly not a very good win. Oklahoma beat several top 25 teams. We are not comparing losses. Clearly Oklahoma's loss to Texas is worse than Ohio State's loss but in terms of wins Ohio State has nothing. They played a VERY soft schedule and lost to the only top team they played. They thus were rightfully left out of the playoffs. The Boise State beat down helped confirm that decision for anybody paying attention and unbiased.
If they destroy Notre Dame, it will confirm that the committee DID make a mistake.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
If Notre Dame had gone undefeated, they would have replaced Clemson.
The committee didn't make a mistake leaving Ohio at home. However, they killed a quality Michigan team. That's a good win, for sure.
So one win against a decent team. So the Ohio State resume reads: "Our one loss was a close game against a playoff team, we beat a decent Michigan team, and we won the rest of our games against nobodies."
Wouldn't had made any difference if Northern Illinois beat Boise state. The haters would still be saying 'Ohio State played a soft schedule blah blah blah.'
If they destroy Notre Dame, it will confirm that the committee DID make a mistake.
OSU wasn't even considered so no mistake could be made. They were number seven for a reason.
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Wouldn't had made any difference if Northern Illinois beat Boise state. The haters would still be saying 'Ohio State played a soft schedule blah blah blah.'
If they destroy Notre Dame, it will confirm that the committee DID make a mistake.
OSU wasn't even considered so no mistake could be made. They were number seven for a reason.
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They have the same amount of losses as 3 out of the 4 playoff teams.
They are #5 in the coaches poll and #4 in computer rankings.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
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Wouldn't had made any difference if Northern Illinois beat Boise state. The haters would still be saying 'Ohio State played a soft schedule blah blah blah.'
If they destroy Notre Dame, it will confirm that the committee DID make a mistake.
OSU wasn't even considered so no mistake could be made. They were number seven for a reason.
mark
They have the same amount of losses as 3 out of the 4 playoff teams.
They are #5 in the coaches poll and #4 in computer rankings.
#7 in the only poll that matters. And Brick you are indeed correct
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Damn, this happened tonight in my hometown. I took this pic off of my office balcony. All of a sudden football games don't mean a whole lot to me. Just wanted to say hug your loved ones tonight. Me and my family are fine. Estimated 50 families lost their house. Ctazy stuff. Was watching the Duke game and made a beeline to the courthouse basement to ride out the storm. Not looking forward to what daylight reveals 2morrow.
So glad your family is ok. Devasting thing. Awful
You are correct all of a sudden 18-21 year old kids playing football doesn't seem all that important
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Wouldn't had made any difference if Northern Illinois beat Boise state. The haters would still be saying 'Ohio State played a soft schedule blah blah blah.'
If they destroy Notre Dame, it will confirm that the committee DID make a mistake.
OSU wasn't even considered so no mistake could be made. They were number seven for a reason.
mark
They have the same amount of losses as 3 out of the 4 playoff teams.
They are #5 in the coaches poll and #4 in computer rankings.
#7 in the only poll that matters.
mark
Wrong. The committee doesn't have a end of season final poll. Only coaches and ap.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Wouldn't had made any difference if Northern Illinois beat Boise state. The haters would still be saying 'Ohio State played a soft schedule blah blah blah.'
If they destroy Notre Dame, it will confirm that the committee DID make a mistake.
OSU wasn't even considered so no mistake could be made. They were number seven for a reason.
mark
They have the same amount of losses as 3 out of the 4 playoff teams.
They are #5 in the coaches poll and #4 in computer rankings.
#7 in the only poll that matters.
mark
Wrong. The committee doesn't have a end of season final poll. Only coaches and ap.
They were ranked #7 in the only poll that matters being the selection committees final rankings. Let me remind you that they had six teams ahead of OSU. That would make them #7. They are not playing in the playoffs. They are a non factor. Get over it already.
mark
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IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Bad game by UCLA. No excuses. They got beat by a bad team. On a jet blue flight tonight so watched the whole thing. Never would have watched if I wasn't on a five hour flight. Oh well. UCLA should be good next year though.
By record, it certainly looks like Nebraska is bad. However they played some of their best football the last few games. Only team to beat Michigan State.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
1) One of UCLA's players couldn't play because he already signed with an agent. Perhaps Nebraska had someone like that too. What a shame that the games mean so little that players skip it to preserve their bodies for the pros. I mean it makes sense but it's sad. At least the other UCLA players pretended to play. As the guy on Mad-dog sports said, this morning, it's a "business decision" for some players to not try in these games. He was talking about the lower bowls and the meaningless NFL games.
2) The Nebraska safety made a nice play on a UCLA player in the first half. A hard hit but it was football. Penalty against Nebraska and I think the guy was thrown out of the game for targeting. The hit was half as hard as UCLA's Matt Darby against a Nebraska player in the 1988 game and there was no flag thrown. I understand protecting the players but it's football and it's dangerous!
A 5-7 team beat 8-4 UCLA. Good win for the Big Ten.
Evens out the bad loss from favorite Indiana earlier in the day. Dukes first bowl win since 1960.
That was a bad loss for the Big Ten
mark
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A 5-7 team beat 8-4 UCLA. Good win for the Big Ten.
Evens out the bad loss from favorite Indiana earlier in the day. Dukes first bowl win since 1960.
That was a bad loss for the Big Ten
mark
Ya but SEC bias and Ohio State was robbed!
The better games start Tuesday imo, can't wait.
I'm a SEC guy and I'll be pulling for the Tigers on Wednesday.......the MEMPHIS Tigers that is.
A 5-7 team beat 8-4 UCLA. Good win for the Big Ten.
Evens out the bad loss from favorite Indiana earlier in the day. Dukes first bowl win since 1960.
That was a bad loss for the Big Ten
mark
How was it was bad loss? Indiana rarely goes to a bowl game and Duke had a better record. Not to mention Duke was ranked in the top 25 during the season.
It was also ended on a controversial play. Mark May said the field goal was good.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
A 5-7 team beat 8-4 UCLA. Good win for the Big Ten.
Evens out the bad loss from favorite Indiana earlier in the day. Dukes first bowl win since 1960.
That was a bad loss for the Big Ten
mark
How was it was bad loss? Indiana rarely goes to a bowl game and Duke had a better record. Not to mention Duke was ranked in the top 25 during the season.
It was also ended on a controversial play. Mark May said the field goal was good.
So now you are listening to Mark May! Priceless. Indiana was favored by 3.
By the way the field goal for the tie was no good.
mark
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A 5-7 team beat 8-4 UCLA. Good win for the Big Ten.
Evens out the bad loss from favorite Indiana earlier in the day. Dukes first bowl win since 1960.
That was a bad loss for the Big Ten
mark
How was it was bad loss? Indiana rarely goes to a bowl game and Duke had a better record. Not to mention Duke was ranked in the top 25 during the season.
It was also ended on a controversial play. Mark May said the field goal was good.
So now you are listening to Mark May! Priceless. Indiana was favored by 3.
By the way the field goal for the tie was no good.
mark
Field goal was good. Bad call by the officials.
No one was surprised Duke won the game. NO ONE!!
To say it was a bad loss by Indiana is just trolling.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
A 5-7 team beat 8-4 UCLA. Good win for the Big Ten.
Evens out the bad loss from favorite Indiana earlier in the day. Dukes first bowl win since 1960.
That was a bad loss for the Big Ten
mark
How was it was bad loss? Indiana rarely goes to a bowl game and Duke had a better record. Not to mention Duke was ranked in the top 25 during the season.
It was also ended on a controversial play. Mark May said the field goal was good.
So now you are listening to Mark May! Priceless. Indiana was favored by 3.
By the way the field goal for the tie was no good.
mark
Field goal was good. Bad call by the officials.
No one was surprised Duke won the game. NO ONE!!
To say it was a bad loss by Indiana is just trolling.
It was ruled no good so it was no good. The only one who had a good look at it was the official right under the goal post. Indiana was FAVORED so obviously a lot of people were surprised.
You are so transparent.When the Big Ten wins its a good win. When the Big Ten loses it was a good loss.
You embarrass me as a Big Ten fan. That's the only reason I keep you in check. It's my civic duty Fan Boy
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Officials make mistakes all the time. Many people at the game including SOME of the Duke players thought the kick was good.
This video proves the kick was good.
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/duke-wins-pinstripe-bowl-after-would-be-indiana-fg-rule-1749802731
http://larrybrownsports.com/college-football/indiana-robbed-on-field-goal-in-overtime-against-duke-video/286281
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
No one is surprised that a 7-5 team beat a 6-6 team in a bowl game. You are obviously some kind of an idiot.
Officials make mistakes all the time. Many people at the game including SOME of the Duke players thought the kick was good.
This video proves the kick was good.
http://screengrabber.deadspin....ana-fg-rule-1749802731
http://larrybrownsports.com/co...inst-duke-video/286281
Many people also thought it was no good. The only one that matters is the one with the best look that made the call. It's not reviewable for a reason as angles can be deceptive. Even the link you just posted said the following:
"The replay from the view below the upright seemed to show the kick was on the inside of the goal post, however, the replay may have been from an odd camera angle. I thought the kick would have deflected off the upright and not gone in, but it’s really a hard thing to say. The kick is not something that is reviewable, so Duke goes home a winner."
That is your proof? This proves it? Even your "proof" says there no proof. Are you kidding? Desperate much?
fyi I was not surprised at all that Nebraska won yesterday and neither were many others. I never said I was surprised that Indiana lost. I did say was a bad loss for the Big Ten. If the Big 10 hoped to have a better then .500 bowl record they probably needed that game.
So let me get this straight. Indiana is favored by a field goal and loses and it's a good loss? . Nebraska is a touchdown underdog and it's a good win?
You alibi every loss that doesn't go your way. You cry about officiating, bad breaks, bad weather, perceived bias, injuries, conspiracies. You always have an excuse. You flip flop when it no longer fits your point. You use strawman arguments. You use one persons opinion to try actually validate your position. Even those who you have called idiots in the past.
To further illustrate your ignorance you refer to others as idiots. That's actually a sign you are losing a debate badly. Committee members, pollsters, analysts and anyone who doesn't agree with you are deemed idiots by you. When you think of it, coming from you it's actually a compliment. I think you may have anger management issues.
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
lol
You are getting more ridiculous by the day.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Nebraska is a good team.
8 Big Ten bowl games to go. (of course I count Michigan State vs Alabama)
With all this Big Ten talk, I might check in on Minnesota vs Central Michigan.
Geography question: If the Minnesota team takes a bus to Detroit, what is the fewest state
lines they must cross?
I would say the Indiana field goal looks good in one video, not good in the other.
Nebraska is a good team.
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Hey, Mark May said it was good so case closed!
Yes, UCLA would agree that Nebraska is a good team... at least in hindsight in case UCLA didn't go into the game thinking that.
I would say the Indiana field goal looks good in one video, not good in the other.
Nebraska is a good team.
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Hey, Mark May said it was good so case closed!
Yes, UCLA would agree that Nebraska is a good team... at least in hindsight in case UCLA didn't go into the game thinking that.
Mark May is a troll but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
When Armstrong is on his game and not throwing picks(like the Iowa game) they can beat anyone.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
I would say the Indiana field goal looks good in one video, not good in the other.
Nebraska is a good team.
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Hey, Mark May said it was good so case closed!
Yes, UCLA would agree that Nebraska is a good team... at least in hindsight in case UCLA didn't go into the game thinking that.
FYI Indiana's coach said the field goal was no good.
UCLA was in a no win situation
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I would say the Indiana field goal looks good in one video, not good in the other.
Nebraska is a good team.
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Hey, Mark May said it was good so case closed!
Yes, UCLA would agree that Nebraska is a good team... at least in hindsight in case UCLA didn't go into the game thinking that.
FYI Indiana's coach said the field goal was no good.
mark
Show the link where he said it was no good.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
100% percent agree. It was UCLA's own fault for not beating U$C and avoiding that game but it was a no-win situation. However, those are games you have to find a way to get out with a W. When UCLA scored two easy touchdowns I felt pretty confident but I was worried about their lack of defense and inability to sustain a drive. The third quarter furthered both of those problems. Oh well. At least in the game of life it means nothing.
I would say the Indiana field goal looks good in one video, not good in the other.
Nebraska is a good team.
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Hey, Mark May said it was good so case closed!
Yes, UCLA would agree that Nebraska is a good team... at least in hindsight in case UCLA didn't go into the game thinking that.
FYI Indiana's coach said the field goal was no good.
mark
Show the link where he said it was no good.
here you go. now what
Q. Kevin, in your mind, was the field goal good or not good? What explanation did you get?
COACH WILSON: There's no explanation. It wasn't good. You can sit there and look at it. But when I saw the scoreboard, to me, it looks like it travels outside the bar, hooks in, on the other side of the goal post. Bottom line, you don't win a lot of games with field goals.
Google is your friend
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I would say the Indiana field goal looks good in one video, not good in the other.
Nebraska is a good team.
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Hey, Mark May said it was good so case closed!
Yes, UCLA would agree that Nebraska is a good team... at least in hindsight in case UCLA didn't go into the game thinking that.
FYI Indiana's coach said the field goal was no good.
mark
Show the link where he said it was no good.
here you go. now what
Q. Kevin, in your mind, was the field goal good or not good? What explanation did you get?
COACH WILSON: There's no explanation. It wasn't good. You can sit there and look at it. But when I saw the scoreboard, to me, it looks like it travels outside the bar, hooks in, on the other side of the goal post. Bottom line, you don't win a lot of games with field goals.
Google is your friend
mark
That's clearly just SEC bias. Ohio State got robbed. Blah, blah, blah.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
The question --- Can someone compile an ongoing list of how the P5 Conferences do through the post season?? Initially it looks like the ACC has had it pretty bad.
The thought --- With all the emphasis that gets placed on what I consider a bogus statistic(strength of schedule) and the way it influences the rankings, perhaps a revised strength of schedule should be posted after all the games are played to give a better idea of who really played the best Teams and how the rankings didn't accurately reflect that.
Oh yeah, go Bucks!!
Really, a 5-7 team putting up 500 total yards in a destruction of an 8-4 team "evens out" against an OT loss due to a missed FG? Really?