Mark, that was an interesting link that fits in well with some of the comments in this thread, especially with the manner in which the Teams seem to move around. The one aberration that I have seen is that Alabama made their "move" after they beat LSU, a win which initially impressed everyone, including me. Time has shown that SOS win should have meant very little but the bell can't be un-rung. In a way, the committee has hitched their wagon to the horse which is Alabama and now only time will tell the wisdom of that choice.
Can you take a moment from your war with garnett and answer the query from the previous page, who do you think are the four best Teams?? That is absent all the BS about schedules, quality wins, Conferences, committee agendas, Top 25 and anything else.
Tough question
1) Oklahoma
2) Alabama
I honestly think they are the two best teams.
After that I think Clemson and perhaps Ohio State.
mark
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Clemson(in if they win) or NC, Stanford or Ohio state.
I think this is probably more likely
Oklahoma is in and could actually be the number 1 or 2 or 3 seed. They are probably the best team in the country at the moment.
Winner of MSU vs Iowa is in. Winner maybe a 1 or 2 seed
Winner of NC vs Clemson is in. NC would come in as a 4 seed with a win and Clemson as 1 one or 2 seed with a win. You were right about NC. The committee will place them 6 or 7 or 8 this week so they can justify a leap to 4 with a win over Clemson. Exactly like OSU last year. A Conference Champ NC 12-1 would have to get in
Alabama is in with a win. An Alabama loss puts Ohio State and Stanford in play ( if they beat USC) . This is the only scenario for them. Probably Stanford as a conference champ
mark
North Carolina has played 2 FCS opponents… which the committee Hates that's the real difference between the two . If Clemson loses and Stanford loses I think that will be enough. The pac12 championship will be Southern Cal which isn't making the playoffs and I don't think UNC would make it if they win the ACC.
Also North Carolina lost to a pathetic South Carolina team. You don't have to be a conference champion to get in. The committees job is to get the 4 best teams in. Buckeyes are the defending champions and are 24-1 in their last 25 games. There are not 4 or more teams better than them. The MSU loss is good loss. They never trailed in the entire game.
It's interesting earlier in this thread you picked North Carolina to be in your final four. They already lost at SC and played the two FcS opponents when you made made that statement. So what happened garnettstyle? Why the change of heart? Now they have all these warts. Oh, it's doesn't fit your M.O. anymore now does it? Ironic if they get in instead of OSU.
I doubt the committee wants to put a third place OSU team from the Big Ten in if they don't have to. Especially with a questionable resume via their schedule. Sadly it could happen with an Alabama and Stanford loss. A 12-1 Iowa team could also be in play. Do I think OSU could play with anyone in the nation? Of course. Do they deserve to play in the final four? Of course not. Their only win against anyone in shouting distance of the top 25 was now # 19 Michigan. What was their second best win? Their third best win?
If NC wins it will be their 12 win in a row and they will have beat the number one team in the nation in a championship game. I like it. FYI we will both be rooting for a Florida win over Alabama.
Garnettstyle, you aren't going to answer are you? What the change of heart? And what about OSU's top three wins. What were those again?
Go Gators!!
mark
Michigan, Northern Illinois , Virginia tech
Northern Illinois is playing for the MAC championship this Saturday.
Who has Alabama beat?
That's your resume! Wow.
Alabama has actually beat twice as many teams as Ohio State in the CFP Top 25. Plus they beat Wisconsin.
With a 2-0 record against the MAC this year maybe OSU should be playing No Illinios in that Championship game.
Pray for Florida beating Alabama this weekend
mark
They don't need Stanford to lose. Why should they get a jump for beating a 4 loss USC team? Plus Ohio state has a better record and play in the strongest conference.
I also disagree that Ohio state is the 3rd best team. Most people agree that Iowa would lose to Ohio State. Ohio State also has a better win AND a better loss than Alabama.
Most people agree? How do you know that? Why does that even matter? Who cares. You WILL NOT be playing Iowa on the field where it only matters. You had exactly one good win. That's your entire season. Good grief. You lost to a 14 point underdog at home without MSU's best player participating. Anyways you will be watching the Big Team championship game and not playing in it. Hard to fathom getting into the CFP playoffs when you couldn't even get into your own conferences playoff game. I guess you could back in.
Last year you made the case that the Big 12 didn't deserve a team in the playoffs as they didn't have a championship game. Well the big Ten does you you ain't in it. You predicted NC would be in the final,four and now you say they are tainted.
You are a piece of work.
mark
Yes you are a Ohio State hater, we all get it. You act as if the Michigan state loss was a bad loss. The truth of the matter is..its hard to win 25 straight games. It rarely happens. The Buckeyes are 24-1 in their last 25 games. They deserve a chance to defend their title. The have 5 wins over bowl eligible teams and destroyed a top 15 team.
As for UNC, I think they will have a case to get in after they beat Clemson. The big question is, will the committee look past their 2 games against FCS opponents?
I wasn't a bad loss. It was a horrible loss. 5 first downs, 132 yards total offense at home. Anyway so those are facts you can't dispute. Your 5,wins against bowl Eligiblle teams let's look at them. Western Michigan , northern Illinois, Michigan, Psnn State 7-5, VT 6-6.......wow.just wow. Stinks pretty bad. Exactly one win ove a ranked team, one good win any one loss. That's there entire resume. Soft. Very soft
For the record I'm not an OSU hater. It's the Village idiots that can't think for themselves that drive me nuts,
Mark
You obviously know nothing about football. Anyone who has ever played football in their life knows that bad weather affects play. That means low scoring and lower stats. Its just a fact. Want another fact. Buckeyes are ranked #6 in the country in ALL 3 polls and still have a shot at the playoffs. So knock them for their schedule all you want they must be pretty good to be ranked so high going in the last week of the season.
And thanks for pointing out western Michigan, so that makes 6 wins against bowl teams because you forgot to mention Indiana.
And by the way Western Michigan is a good win. They just beat a top 25 team last Saturday. So you might want to give up the Ohio State bashing. You're not doing too well.
Again you would be wrong. You are indeed consistent. You've becoming a bore debating. A one trick pony.
As for your weather comment I guess there was a different weather system on the OSU side of the ball. MSU had 17 first downs to OSU's 5. MSU had 290 yards to OSU's 132 yards. Only wussies and those for have never played the game complain about the weather.
I should really know better then engaging you. That's my bad. That is indeed on me.
I'll let the other OSU guys on here who obviously know the score reel you in.
Good luck garnettstyle
mark
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Originally posted by: garnettstyle If it weren't for that fluke ending during the Mich State vs Michigan game, The Buckeyes would be playing tomorrow in the Championship game.
You realize people post stuff like that when their team doesn't get the chance at a head to head match up. Sadly your Buckeyes blew there chance and are going to have to miss the CFP unless Clemson, Alabama and Stanford lose today. The playoff committee showed how they feel about one loss teams that didn't win a conference championship game last year.
Originally posted by: garnettstyle If it weren't for that fluke ending during the Mich State vs Michigan game, The Buckeyes would be playing tomorrow in the Championship game.
You realize people post stuff like that when their team doesn't get the chance at a head to head match up. Sadly your Buckeyes blew there chance and are going to have to miss the CFP unless Clemson, Alabama and Stanford lose today. The playoff committee showed how they feel about one loss teams that didn't win a conference championship game last year.
Robb
Apples and oranges. Those one loss teams from last year weren't defending national champions.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
That you think there is a difference is hilarious.
Oklahoma is not being impacted by the lack of a conference championship game as a one loss team. OSU has zero chance of overtaking Oklahoma in the CFP poll and yet both have 1 loss with the Oklahoma lose being "worse" than the Ohio State loss. While strength of schedule plays a part Oklahoma won the Big 12 championship and OSU won nothing.
Apples and oranges. Those one loss teams from last year weren't defending national champions.
You need to stop living in the past. Once OSU lost the defending national champions tag became meaningless. OSU supports had best hope for a lot of things to break Ohio State's way if they want to see them in the CFP.
I sometimes feel like this thread is like talking to my 8 year old.
Question: Did you take a cookie out of the cookie jar?
Answer: Ohio State
Question: How late did you stay up?
Answer: Ohio State
Question: How was school today?
Answer: Ohio State
I was thinking about starting a new college thread since this one is the OP's personal soapbox. Let him have his own Ohio State whine with cheese thread that the rest of us can ignore. He is entitled to that.
Next year for sure
mark
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That you think there is a difference is hilarious.
that you believe there is no difference is pathetic.
in 2014 TCU and Baylor TIED in the Conference and since there was no Championship game both were left out. that is FACT admitted by the Committee and Big 12 Commissioner threw a hissy-fit. it was pretty much accepted that if TCU had won the Conference outright they would have had a legitimate claim to the #4 slot.
this year, Oklahoma won the title outright. but if you can't understand that distinction you'll have to let another member explain it to you.
Originally posted by: larryallen73 I sometimes feel like this thread is like talking to my 8 year old.
Question: Did you take a cookie out of the cookie jar? Answer: Ohio State
Question: How late did you stay up? Answer: Ohio State
Question: How was school today? Answer: Ohio State
I was thinking about starting a new college thread since this one is the OP's personal soapbox. Let him have his own Ohio State whine with cheese thread that the rest of us can ignore. He is entitled to that.
Next year for sure
mark
Agreed. Sort of like the official Boston Red Sox thread that pops up every year or the SF Giants thread one season. We can have one thread just so Ohio State people can tell each other how great they are, how close they are, how wronged they were by this or that, and the rest of us can talk about ALL the teams in college football. Good thought. Let's remember that in 2016! Good luck to everybody's team(s) today!
an interesting thing will be where the various Polls place everyone after today, especially if someone falters. I suppose the greatest probability for a loss is with Clemson with Alabama and MSU winning. I Hope Alabama loses but I really doubt it will happen. if anyone was going to beat them I thought it would be Auburn.
Keets you actually just reinforced my original point. Last year the committed showed how they felt about one loss teams that fail to win their conference. Unfortunately for OSU they fell a little short in bad weather conditions and their playoff hopes are pretty slim. Personally I hope they eventually expand to 16 teams, that would provide a much truer national champion.
The Big Ten Champsionship is barely watchable well into the 3rd quarter.
Great finish though
mark
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I suspect it will look like this. What a great final 4
1) Clemson
2) Alabama
3) Oklahoma
4) MSU
Could see MSU number 3 possibly
5) Iowa
6) Stanford
7) Ohio State
8) Notre Dame
9) Florida State
10) TCU
Iowa, Stanford and OSU could all be 5, 6 or 7 not that it matters
mark
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Mark, that was an interesting link that fits in well with some of the comments in this thread, especially with the manner in which the Teams seem to move around. The one aberration that I have seen is that Alabama made their "move" after they beat LSU, a win which initially impressed everyone, including me. Time has shown that SOS win should have meant very little but the bell can't be un-rung. In a way, the committee has hitched their wagon to the horse which is Alabama and now only time will tell the wisdom of that choice.
Can you take a moment from your war with garnett and answer the query from the previous page, who do you think are the four best Teams?? That is absent all the BS about schedules, quality wins, Conferences, committee agendas, Top 25 and anything else.
Tough question
1) Oklahoma
2) Alabama
I honestly think they are the two best teams.
After that I think Clemson and perhaps Ohio State.
mark
Now that all the games have been played this weekend this is easier. These are the four best teams right now in my opinion
1) Oklahoma
2) Alabama
3) Clemson
4) Stanford
mark
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I suspect it will look like this. What a great final 4
1) Clemson
2) Alabama
3) Oklahoma
4) MSU
Could see MSU number 3 possibly
5) Iowa
6) Stanford
7) Ohio State
8) Notre Dame
9) Florida State
10) TCU
Iowa, Stanford and OSU could all be 5, 6 or 7 not that it matters
mark
I'd rather take the 4 seed against Clemson.
I agree.
Congrats! Now you get the chance to get Cook healthy. You have a great coach
mark
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Originally posted by: keets Mark, that was an interesting link that fits in well with some of the comments in this thread, especially with the manner in which the Teams seem to move around. The one aberration that I have seen is that Alabama made their "move" after they beat LSU, a win which initially impressed everyone, including me. Time has shown that SOS win should have meant very little but the bell can't be un-rung. In a way, the committee has hitched their wagon to the horse which is Alabama and now only time will tell the wisdom of that choice.
Can you take a moment from your war with garnett and answer the query from the previous page, who do you think are the four best Teams?? That is absent all the BS about schedules, quality wins, Conferences, committee agendas, Top 25 and anything else.
Tough question
1) Oklahoma
2) Alabama
I honestly think they are the two best teams.
After that I think Clemson and perhaps Ohio State.
mark
Now that all the games have been played this weekend this is easier. These are the four best teams right now in my opinion
1) Oklahoma 2) Alabama 3) Clemson 4) Stanford
mark
Oklahoma at #1 LOL Who have they beat? Oklahoma State??? They stink
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Congrats to the Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma, and Mich. St. fans.
Your teams did what the rest of us wish our favorites had done.
Enjoy the playoffs and good luck.
I'm hoping ND draws Ohio State or Iowa in the Fiesta as my trip is already arranged. I don't want to see them play Houston as that's a no-win situation. If they beat Houston, it will be, big deal they beat Houston, and if they lose to Houston, it will be, wow, they suck, suck, suck and they'll start behind the 8 ball in next year's rankings.
However, if push comes to shove, would rather see them play Houston in Phoenix than anyone in the Peach Bowl, as I have sub-zero desire to go to Atlanta, but if that's where they end up, I'm sure I'll probably make the trip especially if they play their former QB.
If the Irish don't play in Phoenix, I'll have two tickets to the Fiesta Bowl available if anyone is interested.
Originally posted by: garnettstyle Navarro, I still love that football you posted
That guy makes some neat looking sports art on balls. I've commissioned him to do an ND ball with the old version of the leprechaun logo on one side and on the other side it will say "Win, lose, or tie, I'll be Irish until I die."
He told me it takes 7 weeks lead time though because supposedly he stays pretty busy.
You ought to have him make you a sweet Ohio State National Champs football for last year and just tell him to create a neat design with it or maybe one with the Heisman winners y'all have and if they are all still alive you could get it signed (that would be an awesome piece for a Buckeyes fan)
When I get my ball in, I'll post and let you know if they look as nice in person as they do in pics. I ordered mine about 4 weeks ago so I should have it by the end of the year I hope.
Anti climatic as we know who clearly the best 4 teams are. Zero controversy for the committee.
Now here is the order. The committee speaks. I can't want until New Year's Eve!!!! Mark
1) Clemson
2) Alabama
3) Michigan State
4) Oklahoma
#1 ACC Champ Clemson vs #4 BIG 12 Champ Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl
#2 SEC Champ Alabama vs #3 BIG 10 Champ MSU in Dallas/Cotton Bowl
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Oklahoma's best win against TCU, a team that has the #66 best defense in the country. They play in a basketball conference. Even Paul Finebaum admitted today the Big 10 is the best conference. Ohio State would destroy Oklahoma.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Originally posted by: garnettstyle Oklahoma's best win against TCU, a team that has the #66 best defense in the country. They play in a basketball conference. Even Paul Finebaum admitted today the Big 10 is the best conference. Ohio State would destroy Oklahoma.
Doesn't OSU and Oklahoma open with each other in 2017? That will be a good one.
Originally posted by: garnettstyle Oklahoma's best win against TCU, a team that has the #66 best defense in the country. They play in a basketball conference. Even Paul Finebaum admitted today the Big 10 is the best conference. Ohio State would destroy Oklahoma.
Doesn't OSU and Oklahoma open with each other in 2017? That will be a good one.
Yes but probably without Bosa and Zeke. Their two best players.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
They actually play next year @ Oklahoma if memory serves me correctly. I believe they play at OSU in 2017.
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If you are up for an avatar bet let me know. If ND wins, you change your avatar to an ND avatar of my choosing (clean and not deragotary towards the other team) and if OSU wins, I change my avatar to an OSU one (clean and not deragotary towards the other team) of your choosing for 30 days starting within 3 days after the bowl game.
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#10 North Carolina vs #17 Baylor in the Russell Athletic Bowl
#13 Northwestern Vs #23 Tennessee in The Outback
Georgia vs Penn State in the Taxslayer Bowl
Indiana vs Duke in The Pinstripe Bowl
Central Michigan vs Minnesota in The Quick Lane Bowl
UCLA vs Nebraska in The Foster Farms Bowl
#25 USC vs Wisconsin in the Holiday Bowl
# 20 LSU vs Texas Tech in the Advocare V100 Texas Bowl
# 15 Oregon vs #11 TCU in the Alamo Bowl
#22 Utah vs BYU in the Las Vegas Bowk
There is more but I'm knackered
mark
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I think the bowl games will be fun. Lots of good match ups. Glad they gave Iowa the Rose Bowl as they really had a great year. Tough loss yesterday.
Iowa will bring the whole state. Should be a great match up
mark
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Originally posted by: garnettstyle Larryallen who wins between UCLA and Nebraska?
I hope UCLA wins. I imagine UCLA will be favored by a TD or more. If I recall the last time they met, in a bowl game, Nebraska was favored by a lot and UCLA smoked them... so anything can happen. That's why they play the games.
I hope UCLA wins. I imagine UCLA will be favored by a TD or more. If I recall the last time they met, in a bowl game, Nebraska was favored by a lot and UCLA smoked them... so anything can happen. That's why they play the games.
PAC 12 has acquitted itself well in Bowl games going 12-5 the past two seasons. FYI Stanford opened up as a 6.5 point favorite over Iowa
mark
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Mark, that was an interesting link that fits in well with some of the comments in this thread, especially with the manner in which the Teams seem to move around. The one aberration that I have seen is that Alabama made their "move" after they beat LSU, a win which initially impressed everyone, including me. Time has shown that SOS win should have meant very little but the bell can't be un-rung. In a way, the committee has hitched their wagon to the horse which is Alabama and now only time will tell the wisdom of that choice.
Can you take a moment from your war with garnett and answer the query from the previous page, who do you think are the four best Teams?? That is absent all the BS about schedules, quality wins, Conferences, committee agendas, Top 25 and anything else.
Tough question
1) Oklahoma
2) Alabama
I honestly think they are the two best teams.
After that I think Clemson and perhaps Ohio State.
mark
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Playoffs should like like this:
Alabama
Oklahoma(probably)
Winner of MSU vs Iowa
Clemson(in if they win) or NC, Stanford or Ohio state.
I think this is probably more likely
Oklahoma is in and could actually be the number 1 or 2 or 3 seed. They are probably the best team in the country at the moment.
Winner of MSU vs Iowa is in. Winner maybe a 1 or 2 seed
Winner of NC vs Clemson is in. NC would come in as a 4 seed with a win and Clemson as 1 one or 2 seed with a win. You were right about NC. The committee will place them 6 or 7 or 8 this week so they can justify a leap to 4 with a win over Clemson. Exactly like OSU last year. A Conference Champ NC 12-1 would have to get in
Alabama is in with a win. An Alabama loss puts Ohio State and Stanford in play ( if they beat USC) . This is the only scenario for them. Probably Stanford as a conference champ
mark
North Carolina has played 2 FCS opponents… which the committee Hates that's the real difference between the two . If Clemson loses and Stanford loses I think that will be enough. The pac12 championship will be Southern Cal which isn't making the playoffs and I don't think UNC would make it if they win the ACC.
Also North Carolina lost to a pathetic South Carolina team. You don't have to be a conference champion to get in. The committees job is to get the 4 best teams in. Buckeyes are the defending champions and are 24-1 in their last 25 games. There are not 4 or more teams better than them. The MSU loss is good loss. They never trailed in the entire game.
It's interesting earlier in this thread you picked North Carolina to be in your final four. They already lost at SC and played the two FcS opponents when you made made that statement. So what happened garnettstyle? Why the change of heart? Now they have all these warts. Oh, it's doesn't fit your M.O. anymore now does it? Ironic if they get in instead of OSU.
I doubt the committee wants to put a third place OSU team from the Big Ten in if they don't have to. Especially with a questionable resume via their schedule. Sadly it could happen with an Alabama and Stanford loss. A 12-1 Iowa team could also be in play. Do I think OSU could play with anyone in the nation? Of course. Do they deserve to play in the final four? Of course not. Their only win against anyone in shouting distance of the top 25 was now # 19 Michigan. What was their second best win? Their third best win?
If NC wins it will be their 12 win in a row and they will have beat the number one team in the nation in a championship game. I like it. FYI we will both be rooting for a Florida win over Alabama.
mark
like I was saying
Garnettstyle, you aren't going to answer are you? What the change of heart? And what about OSU's top three wins. What were those again?
Go Gators!!
mark
Michigan, Northern Illinois , Virginia tech
Northern Illinois is playing for the MAC championship this Saturday.
Who has Alabama beat?
That's your resume! Wow.
Alabama has actually beat twice as many teams as Ohio State in the CFP Top 25. Plus they beat Wisconsin.
With a 2-0 record against the MAC this year maybe OSU should be playing No Illinios in that Championship game.
Pray for Florida beating Alabama this weekend
mark
They don't need Stanford to lose. Why should they get a jump for beating a 4 loss USC team? Plus Ohio state has a better record and play in the strongest conference.
I also disagree that Ohio state is the 3rd best team. Most people agree that Iowa would lose to Ohio State. Ohio State also has a better win AND a better loss than Alabama.
Most people agree? How do you know that? Why does that even matter? Who cares. You WILL NOT be playing Iowa on the field where it only matters. You had exactly one good win. That's your entire season. Good grief. You lost to a 14 point underdog at home without MSU's best player participating. Anyways you will be watching the Big Team championship game and not playing in it. Hard to fathom getting into the CFP playoffs when you couldn't even get into your own conferences playoff game. I guess you could back in.
Last year you made the case that the Big 12 didn't deserve a team in the playoffs as they didn't have a championship game. Well the big Ten does you you ain't in it. You predicted NC would be in the final,four and now you say they are tainted.
You are a piece of work.
mark
Yes you are a Ohio State hater, we all get it. You act as if the Michigan state loss was a bad loss. The truth of the matter is..its hard to win 25 straight games. It rarely happens. The Buckeyes are 24-1 in their last 25 games. They deserve a chance to defend their title. The have 5 wins over bowl eligible teams and destroyed a top 15 team.
As for UNC, I think they will have a case to get in after they beat Clemson. The big question is, will the committee look past their 2 games against FCS opponents?
I wasn't a bad loss. It was a horrible loss. 5 first downs, 132 yards total offense at home. Anyway so those are facts you can't dispute. Your 5,wins against bowl Eligiblle teams let's look at them. Western Michigan , northern Illinois, Michigan, Psnn State 7-5, VT 6-6.......wow.just wow. Stinks pretty bad. Exactly one win ove a ranked team, one good win any one loss. That's there entire resume. Soft. Very soft
For the record I'm not an OSU hater. It's the Village idiots that can't think for themselves that drive me nuts,
Mark
You obviously know nothing about football. Anyone who has ever played football in their life knows that bad weather affects play. That means low scoring and lower stats. Its just a fact. Want another fact. Buckeyes are ranked #6 in the country in ALL 3 polls and still have a shot at the playoffs. So knock them for their schedule all you want they must be pretty good to be ranked so high going in the last week of the season.
And thanks for pointing out western Michigan, so that makes 6 wins against bowl teams because you forgot to mention Indiana.
And by the way Western Michigan is a good win. They just beat a top 25 team last Saturday. So you might want to give up the Ohio State bashing. You're not doing too well.
Again you would be wrong. You are indeed consistent. You've becoming a bore debating. A one trick pony.
As for your weather comment I guess there was a different weather system on the OSU side of the ball. MSU had 17 first downs to OSU's 5. MSU had 290 yards to OSU's 132 yards. Only wussies and those for have never played the game complain about the weather.
I should really know better then engaging you. That's my bad. That is indeed on me.
I'll let the other OSU guys on here who obviously know the score reel you in.
Good luck garnettstyle
mark
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IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14288378/big-ten-staking-claim-best-conference
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
surprisingly nice article from ESPN!!
If it weren't for that fluke ending during the Mich State vs Michigan game, The Buckeyes would be playing tomorrow in the Championship game.
You realize people post stuff like that when their team doesn't get the chance at a head to head match up. Sadly your Buckeyes blew there chance and are going to have to miss the CFP unless Clemson, Alabama and Stanford lose today. The playoff committee showed how they feel about one loss teams that didn't win a conference championship game last year.
Robb
The playoff committee showed how they feel about one loss teams that play in a Conference without a conference championship game last year.
--- there, I fixed it for you.
If it weren't for that fluke ending during the Mich State vs Michigan game, The Buckeyes would be playing tomorrow in the Championship game.
You realize people post stuff like that when their team doesn't get the chance at a head to head match up. Sadly your Buckeyes blew there chance and are going to have to miss the CFP unless Clemson, Alabama and Stanford lose today. The playoff committee showed how they feel about one loss teams that didn't win a conference championship game last year.
Robb
Apples and oranges. Those one loss teams from last year weren't defending national champions.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Oklahoma is not being impacted by the lack of a conference championship game as a one loss team. OSU has zero chance of overtaking Oklahoma in the CFP poll and yet both have 1 loss with the Oklahoma lose being "worse" than the Ohio State loss. While strength of schedule plays a part Oklahoma won the Big 12 championship and OSU won nothing.
Robb
Apples and oranges. Those one loss teams from last year weren't defending national champions.
You need to stop living in the past. Once OSU lost the defending national champions tag became meaningless. OSU supports had best hope for a lot of things to break Ohio State's way if they want to see them in the CFP.
Robb
Question: Did you take a cookie out of the cookie jar?
Answer: Ohio State
Question: How late did you stay up?
Answer: Ohio State
Question: How was school today?
Answer: Ohio State
I sometimes feel like this thread is like talking to my 8 year old.
Question: Did you take a cookie out of the cookie jar?
Answer: Ohio State
Question: How late did you stay up?
Answer: Ohio State
Question: How was school today?
Answer: Ohio State
I was thinking about starting a new college thread since this one is the OP's personal soapbox. Let him have his own Ohio State whine with cheese thread that the rest of us can ignore. He is entitled to that.
Next year for sure
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
that you believe there is no difference is pathetic.
in 2014 TCU and Baylor TIED in the Conference and since there was no Championship game both were left out. that is FACT admitted by the Committee and Big 12 Commissioner threw a hissy-fit. it was pretty much accepted that if TCU had won the Conference outright they would have had a legitimate claim to the #4 slot.
this year, Oklahoma won the title outright. but if you can't understand that distinction you'll have to let another member explain it to you.
I sometimes feel like this thread is like talking to my 8 year old.
Question: Did you take a cookie out of the cookie jar?
Answer: Ohio State
Question: How late did you stay up?
Answer: Ohio State
Question: How was school today?
Answer: Ohio State
I was thinking about starting a new college thread since this one is the OP's personal soapbox. Let him have his own Ohio State whine with cheese thread that the rest of us can ignore. He is entitled to that.
Next year for sure
mark
Agreed. Sort of like the official Boston Red Sox thread that pops up every year or the SF Giants thread one season. We can have one thread just so Ohio State people can tell each other how great they are, how close they are, how wronged they were by this or that, and the rest of us can talk about ALL the teams in college football. Good thought. Let's remember that in 2016! Good luck to everybody's team(s) today!
Peace out.
an interesting thing will be where the various Polls place everyone after today, especially if someone falters. I suppose the greatest probability for a loss is with Clemson with Alabama and MSU winning. I Hope Alabama loses but I really doubt it will happen. if anyone was going to beat them I thought it would be Auburn.
Robb
Great finish though
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Alabama vs. Michigan State
What could be better than that?
(just my guess, of course)
I suspect it will look like this. What a great final 4
1) Clemson
2) Alabama
3) Oklahoma
4) MSU
Could see MSU number 3 possibly
5) Iowa
6) Stanford
7) Ohio State
8) Notre Dame
9) Florida State
10) TCU
Iowa, Stanford and OSU could all be 5, 6 or 7 not that it matters
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
No suspense or controversy now.
I suspect it will look like this. What a great final 4
1) Clemson
2) Alabama
3) Oklahoma
4) MSU
Could see MSU number 3 possibly
5) Iowa
6) Stanford
7) Ohio State
8) Notre Dame
9) Florida State
10) TCU
Iowa, Stanford and OSU could all be 5, 6 or 7 not that it matters
mark
I'd rather take the 4 seed against Clemson.
Mark, that was an interesting link that fits in well with some of the comments in this thread, especially with the manner in which the Teams seem to move around. The one aberration that I have seen is that Alabama made their "move" after they beat LSU, a win which initially impressed everyone, including me. Time has shown that SOS win should have meant very little but the bell can't be un-rung. In a way, the committee has hitched their wagon to the horse which is Alabama and now only time will tell the wisdom of that choice.
Can you take a moment from your war with garnett and answer the query from the previous page, who do you think are the four best Teams?? That is absent all the BS about schedules, quality wins, Conferences, committee agendas, Top 25 and anything else.
Tough question
1) Oklahoma
2) Alabama
I honestly think they are the two best teams.
After that I think Clemson and perhaps Ohio State.
mark
Now that all the games have been played this weekend this is easier. These are the four best teams right now in my opinion
1) Oklahoma
2) Alabama
3) Clemson
4) Stanford
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
No suspense or controversy now.
I suspect it will look like this. What a great final 4
1) Clemson
2) Alabama
3) Oklahoma
4) MSU
Could see MSU number 3 possibly
5) Iowa
6) Stanford
7) Ohio State
8) Notre Dame
9) Florida State
10) TCU
Iowa, Stanford and OSU could all be 5, 6 or 7 not that it matters
mark
I'd rather take the 4 seed against Clemson.
I agree.
Congrats! Now you get the chance to get Cook healthy. You have a great coach
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
1. Mich State
2. Clemson
3. Alabama
4. Ohio State
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Mark, that was an interesting link that fits in well with some of the comments in this thread, especially with the manner in which the Teams seem to move around. The one aberration that I have seen is that Alabama made their "move" after they beat LSU, a win which initially impressed everyone, including me. Time has shown that SOS win should have meant very little but the bell can't be un-rung. In a way, the committee has hitched their wagon to the horse which is Alabama and now only time will tell the wisdom of that choice.
Can you take a moment from your war with garnett and answer the query from the previous page, who do you think are the four best Teams?? That is absent all the BS about schedules, quality wins, Conferences, committee agendas, Top 25 and anything else.
Tough question
1) Oklahoma
2) Alabama
I honestly think they are the two best teams.
After that I think Clemson and perhaps Ohio State.
mark
Now that all the games have been played this weekend this is easier. These are the four best teams right now in my opinion
1) Oklahoma
2) Alabama
3) Clemson
4) Stanford
mark
Oklahoma at #1 LOL Who have they beat? Oklahoma State??? They stink
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Your teams did what the rest of us wish our favorites had done.
Enjoy the playoffs and good luck.
I'm hoping ND draws Ohio State or Iowa in the Fiesta as my trip is already arranged. I don't want to see them play Houston as that's a no-win situation. If they beat Houston, it will be, big deal they beat Houston, and if they lose to Houston, it will be, wow, they suck, suck, suck and they'll start behind the 8 ball in next year's rankings.
However, if push comes to shove, would rather see them play Houston in Phoenix than anyone in the Peach Bowl, as I have sub-zero desire to go to Atlanta, but if that's where they end up, I'm sure I'll probably make the trip especially if they play their former QB.
If the Irish don't play in Phoenix, I'll have two tickets to the Fiesta Bowl available if anyone is interested.
Mike
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Navarro, I still love that football you posted
That guy makes some neat looking sports art on balls. I've commissioned him to do an ND ball with the old version of the leprechaun logo on one side and on the other side it will say "Win, lose, or tie, I'll be Irish until I die."
He told me it takes 7 weeks lead time though because supposedly he stays pretty busy.
You ought to have him make you a sweet Ohio State National Champs football for last year and just tell him to create a neat design with it or maybe one with the Heisman winners y'all have and if they are all still alive you could get it signed (that would be an awesome piece for a Buckeyes fan)
When I get my ball in, I'll post and let you know if they look as nice in person as they do in pics. I ordered mine about 4 weeks ago so I should have it by the end of the year I hope.
1) Clemson
2) Alabama
3) Oklahoma
4) MSU
5) Iowa
6) Stanford
7) Ohio State
8) North Carolina
9) Florida State
10) Notre Dame
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2015/12/64684/college-football-playoff-is-great-expanding-field-would-improve-it
Wont be the 1st time Ohio State got screwed out of a national championship
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Now here is the order. The committee speaks. I can't want until New Year's Eve!!!! Mark
1) Clemson
2) Alabama
3) Michigan State
4) Oklahoma
#1 ACC Champ Clemson vs #4 BIG 12 Champ Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl
#2 SEC Champ Alabama vs #3 BIG 10 Champ MSU in Dallas/Cotton Bowl
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Oklahoma favored over Clemson by 3
Alabama favored over MSU by 9
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Ohio State got robbed
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Oklahoma's best win against TCU, a team that has the #66 best defense in the country. They play in a basketball conference. Even Paul Finebaum admitted today the Big 10 is the best conference. Ohio State would destroy Oklahoma.
Doesn't OSU and Oklahoma open with each other in 2017? That will be a good one.
Oklahoma's best win against TCU, a team that has the #66 best defense in the country. They play in a basketball conference. Even Paul Finebaum admitted today the Big 10 is the best conference. Ohio State would destroy Oklahoma.
Doesn't OSU and Oklahoma open with each other in 2017? That will be a good one.
Yes but probably without Bosa and Zeke. Their two best players.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
2016 I think they play in the third or fourth game of the year.
Good luck Garnettstyle
If you are up for an avatar bet let me know. If ND wins, you change your avatar to an ND avatar of my choosing (clean and not deragotary towards the other team) and if OSU wins, I change my avatar to an OSU one (clean and not deragotary towards the other team) of your choosing for 30 days starting within 3 days after the bowl game.
Mike
Man, that's a great game. Seems like Notre Dame would be a good fit in the Big 10.
Agreed.
The final Top 25
1) Clemson ( 3-0 vs The Top Ten)
2) Alabama ( 4-1 vs The Top 25)
3) MSU ( 4-0 vs the Top 25. 2-0 vs the Top 10)
4) Oklahoma ( 4-0 vs the Top 25)
5) Iowa ( 1-1 vs The Top 25 )
6) Stanford ( 3-2 vs The Top 25)
7) Ohio State ( 1-1 vs the Top 25)
8) Notre Dame ( 3-2 vs The Top 25)
9) Florida State ( 1-1 vs Top 25 )
10) North Carolina ( 0-1 vs Top 25)
11) TCU
12) Ole Miss
13) Northwestern
14) Michigan
15) Oregon
16) Oklahoma State
17) Baylor
18) Houston
19) Florida
20) LSU
21) Navy
22) Utah
23) Tennessee
24) Temple
25) USC
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
#7 OSU vs # 8 ND in the Fiesta
Not to shabby
# 18 Houston Vs # 9 Florida State in the Peach
# 12 Ole Miss Vs # 16 OSU in the Sugar
#14 Michigan vs # 19 Florida in the Citrus
#10 North Carolina vs #17 Baylor in the Russell Athletic Bowl
#13 Northwestern Vs #23 Tennessee in The Outback
Georgia vs Penn State in the Taxslayer Bowl
Indiana vs Duke in The Pinstripe Bowl
Central Michigan vs Minnesota in The Quick Lane Bowl
UCLA vs Nebraska in The Foster Farms Bowl
#25 USC vs Wisconsin in the Holiday Bowl
# 20 LSU vs Texas Tech in the Advocare V100 Texas Bowl
# 15 Oregon vs #11 TCU in the Alamo Bowl
#22 Utah vs BYU in the Las Vegas Bowk
There is more but I'm knackered
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I think the bowl games will be fun. Lots of good match ups. Glad they gave Iowa the Rose Bowl as they really had a great year. Tough loss yesterday.
Iowa will bring the whole state. Should be a great match up
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Larryallen who wins between UCLA and Nebraska?
I hope UCLA wins. I imagine UCLA will be favored by a TD or more. If I recall the last time they met, in a bowl game, Nebraska was favored by a lot and UCLA smoked them... so anything can happen. That's why they play the games.
Larryallen who wins between UCLA and Nebraska?
I hope UCLA wins. I imagine UCLA will be favored by a TD or more. If I recall the last time they met, in a bowl game, Nebraska was favored by a lot and UCLA smoked them... so anything can happen. That's why they play the games.
PAC 12 has acquitted itself well in Bowl games going 12-5 the past two seasons. FYI Stanford opened up as a 6.5 point favorite over Iowa
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Something tells me if the sec had three 1 loss teams, the committee would find a way to put 2 in.
Ohio State got robbed
Ohio finished third in the Big Ten. They had no claim whatsoever.