<< <i>Interesting that my second order shipped first - 03356 (4) 3355 (1) has not. >>
Interesting. Will this be another "First in - Whenever out" issue like the UHR Eagle? I remember I ordered late and got mine way before some on here who ordered early.
Interesting that my second order shipped first - 03356 (4) 3355 (1) has not. >>
035547xx, not shipped. Waaahhh... (But then to, it's coming via slowpoke, so it's not going to show up until well into next week anyway...)
(Edited to add: Order is still "Processing", but just got a shipping number. Still coming slowpost though...) (Edited again to add: Just got ship confirmation e-mail)
<< <i>The people who would like to collect these sets intact will have a harder time finding them, because many sets will be busted up to have that ugly reverse Proof dollar graded. That sort of defeats the whole purpose of using these sets to educate the public about Harry Truman's administration. The booklet that comes with it will be trashed and the medals will be scrapped. >>
Sour puss. I'm in it for the medal also. Sounds like you are just trying to bring everyone down. Please chill your vibe. Kris >>
I have all the coin and chronicles (going back to the John Marshall), so at least two of my Truman sets will remain intact for my C&C set collection. The other three? We'll see when I can inspect the coins.
But yep, if the poster had gotten the sets, he would have been doing the happy dance. Now, they're "ugly reverse proof dollars", without even seeing one in hand.
Oh well. Everyone have a nice holiday weekend anyway.
<< <i>In a quick update, the U.S. Mint said 16,780 sets sold in approximately 15 minutes of release. The Mint’s entire inventory is already at its fulfillment center with shipping based on first-in, first-served basis. We ordered a few sets and received them this morning. We hope to have photos of them published by today/tomorrow. >>
They obviously didn't ship FIFO, but considering it looks like they're shipping all orders out today, it probably doesn't make much difference...
Another unconfirmed quote from the mint:
<< <i>A total of 16,780 sets were sold in approximately 15 minutes. All accepted orders will be processed and fulfilled on a first-in, first-served basis according to existing United States Mint policies. The product inventory is at the fulfillment center for immediate shipment to customers. No additional inventory will be produced. Product shipments, returns and exchanges will be monitored daily over the next few weeks. >>
When they say obvious lies, like the orders were shipped FIFO which is not true by actual shipping out of number order posted here, how can we trust anything they say?
<< <i>When they say obvious lies, like the orders were shipped FIFO which is not true by actual shipping out of number order posted here, how can we trust anything they say? >>
Does it really make a difference if all 4000+ orders were shipped on the same day?
In this case, FIFO=LIFO.
Now, the question is, can FedEx pick up all 4000+ orders at one time?
Just got an email from the Mint stating my 5 sets have shipped.
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<< <i>When they say obvious lies, like the orders were shipped FIFO which is not true by actual shipping out of number order posted here, how can we trust anything they say? >>
Does it really make a difference if all 4000+ orders were shipped on the same day?
In this case, FIFO=LIFO.
Now, the question is, can FedEx pick up all 4000+ orders at one time? >>
Well, it does matter. They swear to FIFO and yet we know it isn't the case. Less effect when all go out the same day, true. Take the Jackie gold response about unanticipated demand (poor planning) while not addressing (avoidance/deflection?) the real question of how dealers got every available coin in the first second of availability. Dishonest at best, total lies at the most cynical. Either way a lot of good will and trust has eroded.
if one is faster than another, there you go. I'm guessing sell-out anyway and these will all go out in plenty of time for anything. Certainly the early bird gets the worm for the stupid money on ebay. This is no Jackie Kennedy proof gold fiasco.
<< <i>The people who would like to collect these sets intact will have a harder time finding them, because many sets will be busted up to have that ugly reverse Proof dollar graded. That sort of defeats the whole purpose of using these sets to educate the public about Harry Truman's administration. The booklet that comes with it will be trashed and the medals will be scrapped. >>
Sour puss. I'm in it for the medal also. Sounds like you are just trying to bring everyone down. Please chill your vibe. Kris >>
I have all the coin and chronicles (going back to the John Marshall), so at least two of my Truman sets will remain intact for my C&C set collection. The other three? We'll see when I can inspect the coins.
But yep, if the poster had gotten the sets, he would have been doing the happy dance. Now, they're "ugly reverse proof dollars", without even seeing one in hand.
Oh well. Everyone have a nice holiday weekend anyway. >>
To answer your comment if I had placed an order it would have been for one set for my collection. I am not a flipper.
I admire Truman, and in one sense I'm sorry I am not getting one, but I have already turned down a kind offer from a board member. I am just not that motivated to buy it. I have a 1949 Truman inaugural medal plus some nice 1948 Truman campaign buttons so I don't feel compelled to chase after this.
And no, generally I am not a fan of reverse Proofs. They are a gimmick, and this thing is just the mint's effort to revive a dead series. The Proof presidential dollars as a series is pretty much dead on arrival.
Finally I still think it is a shame that collectors who did not have access during the 15 minute opportunity window now have to pay through the nose to get a set.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
Bill. I hear you ... But collectors do not have to "pay through the nose" today to get a set ... they have the option of waiting - right?
Unlike the Silver Kennedy RP or the March of Dimes RP (unique denominational coin finishes), the Pres $1 RP coins, while unique to each President, provide collectors a multitude of choices to capture a type $1 Pres coin with RP. For example, collectors might be 100% satisfied with the Kennedy coin to fill their type slot and not give Truman another passing thought. And, we both know the tiny group of collectors out there today that actually collect all of the Pres $1 coins as compared to silver Kennedy coins or Roosie dimes. If collectors could care less about precious metal unique type coins with mintages under 10,000 (that often sell for melt), who is to say that these Truman coins will perform all that well from here a year out?
Just my two cents.
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I believe that J.R. Sinnock was able to model Truman from an in-person meeting - I'm pretty sure, but maybe not. I truly enjoy his work. If you like the Silver Truman medal when you get it in-hand, I suggest that you buy a 3 inch 1st term bronze Truman mint medal, or a second-term one from the late 80s.
Was checking my tracking number and can't believe how horrible FedEx Smartpost is. I had my order ship yesterday and the tracking is showing that I should get the package on Saturday, July 11!!! Don't understand how they can be so much slower than the USPS.
My sister in Hawaii had her order ship yesterday as well and it is being sent to her via USPS Priority Mail and it will be there Monday, July 6. And that includes a postal holiday this weekend for July 4.
Pretty crazy!!! Is it really that much of a cost savings to use FedEx Smartpost? Cost doesn't seem to matter to the US Mint anyways as they seemingly shipped my sister's order of 5 sets in 5 separate Priority Mail boxes, instead of just sending them in one box. At least that how it looks to her as they gave her 5 different tracking numbers Pretty good deal for her for only $4.95 shipping
Oh well... excited to be getting the coins at all I guess
<< <i>Was checking my tracking number and can't believe how horrible FedEx Smartpost is. I had my order ship yesterday and the tracking is showing that I should get the package on Saturday, July 11!!! Don't understand how they can be so much slower than the USPS.
My sister in Hawaii had her order ship yesterday as well and it is being sent to her via USPS Priority Mail and it will be there Monday, July 6. And that includes a postal holiday this weekend for July 4.
Pretty crazy!!! Is it really that much of a cost savings to use FedEx Smartpost? Cost doesn't seem to matter to the US Mint anyways as they seemingly shipped my sister's order of 5 sets in 5 separate Priority Mail boxes, instead of just sending them in one box. At least that how it looks to her as they gave her 5 different tracking numbers Pretty good deal for her for only $4.95 shipping
Oh well... excited to be getting the coins at all I guess >>
Can you believe this ??? FedEX ships to Chicago .. then ships Mint package to New Berlin ,Wisconsin a 100 miles.. then Postal Service ships back to Chicago .. then to local P.O for delivery.. all for $4.95
<< <i>Was checking my tracking number and can't believe how horrible FedEx Smartpost is. I had my order ship yesterday and the tracking is showing that I should get the package on Saturday, July 11!!! Don't understand how they can be so much slower than the USPS. >>
I got the same thing. Funny how it is even slower than FedEx ground.
<< <i>Interesting that my second order shipped first - 03356 (4) 3355 (1) has not. >>
Interesting. Will this be another "First in - Whenever out" issue like the UHR Eagle? I remember I ordered late and got mine way before some on here who ordered early. >>
<< <i>Maybe they ran out of boxes, I got 2 order, Dimensions 9x9x9 in and 22x17x11 in. Weight around 2.2 lbs. >>
I looked at pictures of the boxes for sale on eBay and they show as S1 - 11 x 6 x 4. If this is correct, this box should fit snugly in a USPS medium flat rate box (11 x 8.5 x 5.5) and well within a USPS large flat rate box (12 x 12 x 5.5)
<< <i>I believe that J.R. Sinnock was able to model Truman from an in-person meeting - I'm pretty sure, but maybe not. I truly enjoy his work. If you like the Silver Truman medal when you get it in-hand, I suggest that you buy a 3 inch 1st term bronze Truman mint medal, or a second-term one from the late 80s. >>
How about this one, the Truman inaugural medal? Here is a picture along with a write-up I did for it for a member of my club who had one given to him by a family member. A nice example will run you $200 to $250.
Mintages
Metal Number Minted
Gold 3 Silver 9 Bronze 7,500
Harry S. Truman's surprise victory in the 1948 presidential election prompted more than a million people to attend his inauguration in on January 20, 1949. Part of this intense interest may have been due to the subdued war time ceremony that marked Franklin Roosevelt's fourth inaugural in 1945. Perhaps the people to looking to have a post war celebration. The parade was seven and a half miles long and was accompanied by the fly over of 700 aircraft past the reviewing stand.
For the first time the bronze inaugural medals were made in a large quantity and offered to the crowd at $2.00 each in bronze. Artist C. Paul Jennewein sculpted the obverse which was modeled from life. Jennewein added the phrase F Ad Vivum, "made from life" beside his signature below Truman's bust. Forty-eight stars surround the bust. Thirteen of them are larger than the others.
The reverse reflected design suggestions from Mint Director, Nellie Tayloe Ross. It features a figure of Lady Liberty, wearing a Phrygian cap, indicative of freedom. To her left are figures representing humanity who are yearning to be free. Lady Liberty holds a laurel spray in her left hand indicating that liberty has been victorious.
The three gold medals were given to Harry S. Truman, Nellie Tayloe Ross and Melvin D. Hildreth who was the chairman of inaugural committee. The Truman piece is in his library. The other two pieces are presumably still held by the families of Mrs. Ross and Mr. Hildreth.
The Philadelphia Mint struck the bronze medals. The finish that the mint gave these pieces has not always been stable, and many pieces have acquired unattractive spots and tarnish. Pieces with attractive surfaces are worth a premium.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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<< <i>Interesting that my second order shipped first - 03356 (4)
3355 (1) has not. >>
Interesting. Will this be another "First in - Whenever out" issue like the UHR Eagle? I remember I ordered late and got mine way before some on here who ordered early.
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<< <i>My order shipped!! >>
What was you number? >>
Interesting that my second order shipped first - 03356 (4)
3355 (1) has not. >>
035547xx, not shipped. Waaahhh... (But then to, it's coming via slowpoke, so it's not going to show up until well into next week anyway...)
(Edited to add: Order is still "Processing", but just got a shipping number. Still coming slowpost though...)
(Edited again to add: Just got ship confirmation e-mail)
"Thank you for shopping at the United States Mint. Your recent order has now shipped."
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<< <i>The people who would like to collect these sets intact will have a harder time finding them, because many sets will be busted up to have that ugly reverse Proof dollar graded. That sort of defeats the whole purpose of using these sets to educate the public about Harry Truman's administration. The booklet that comes with it will be trashed and the medals will be scrapped. >>
Sour puss. I'm in it for the medal also. Sounds like you are just trying to bring everyone down. Please chill your vibe. Kris >>
I have all the coin and chronicles (going back to the John Marshall), so at least two of my Truman sets will remain intact for my C&C set collection. The other three? We'll see when I can inspect the coins.
But yep, if the poster had gotten the sets, he would have been doing the happy dance. Now, they're "ugly reverse proof dollars", without even seeing one in hand.
Oh well. Everyone have a nice holiday weekend anyway.
There may be a duplicate post that I can't see - "Sorry about that Chief!"
Mike Unser of coinnews.net posted the following:
<< <i>In a quick update, the U.S. Mint said 16,780 sets sold in approximately 15 minutes of release. The Mint’s entire inventory is already at its fulfillment center with shipping based on first-in, first-served basis. We ordered a few sets and received them this morning. We hope to have photos of them published by today/tomorrow. >>
They obviously didn't ship FIFO, but considering it looks like they're shipping all orders out today, it probably doesn't make much difference...
Another unconfirmed quote from the mint:
<< <i>A total of 16,780 sets were sold in approximately 15 minutes. All accepted orders will be processed and fulfilled on a first-in, first-served basis according to existing United States Mint policies. The product inventory is at the fulfillment center for immediate shipment to customers. No additional inventory will be produced. Product shipments, returns and exchanges will be monitored daily over the next few weeks. >>
<< <i> Please chill your vibe. >>
No comment other than "No comment".
<< <i>When they say obvious lies, like the orders were shipped FIFO which is not true by actual shipping out of number order posted here, how can we trust anything they say? >>
Does it really make a difference if all 4000+ orders were shipped on the same day?
In this case, FIFO=LIFO.
Now, the question is, can FedEx pick up all 4000+ orders at one time?
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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<< <i>When they say obvious lies, like the orders were shipped FIFO which is not true by actual shipping out of number order posted here, how can we trust anything they say? >>
Does it really make a difference if all 4000+ orders were shipped on the same day?
In this case, FIFO=LIFO.
Now, the question is, can FedEx pick up all 4000+ orders at one time? >>
Well, it does matter. They swear to FIFO and yet we know it isn't the case. Less effect when all go out the same day, true. Take the Jackie gold response about unanticipated demand (poor planning) while not addressing (avoidance/deflection?) the real question of how dealers got every available coin in the first second of availability. Dishonest at best, total lies at the most cynical. Either way a lot of good will and trust has eroded.
if one is faster than another, there you go. I'm guessing sell-out anyway and these will all go out in plenty of time for anything. Certainly the early bird gets the worm for the stupid money on ebay. This is no Jackie Kennedy proof gold fiasco.
so, it's approximately fifo.
USM03355XXX $294.70 06/30/2015 SHIPPED
<< <i>The booklet that comes with it will be trashed and the medals will be scrapped. >>
For anyone reading this, please let me buy your medals before you scrap them! Cheers
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...and why the original packaging for the medal but not the dollar?
Box of 20
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I knew it would happen.
<< <i>As posted on Coin World, photo of an actual, in hand, RP Truman, delivered this morning. LINK
Is it just the angle or are the lower letters (below the main device) not polished?
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<< <i>The people who would like to collect these sets intact will have a harder time finding them, because many sets will be busted up to have that ugly reverse Proof dollar graded. That sort of defeats the whole purpose of using these sets to educate the public about Harry Truman's administration. The booklet that comes with it will be trashed and the medals will be scrapped. >>
Sour puss. I'm in it for the medal also. Sounds like you are just trying to bring everyone down. Please chill your vibe. Kris >>
I have all the coin and chronicles (going back to the John Marshall), so at least two of my Truman sets will remain intact for my C&C set collection. The other three? We'll see when I can inspect the coins.
But yep, if the poster had gotten the sets, he would have been doing the happy dance. Now, they're "ugly reverse proof dollars", without even seeing one in hand.
Oh well. Everyone have a nice holiday weekend anyway.
To answer your comment if I had placed an order it would have been for one set for my collection. I am not a flipper.
I admire Truman, and in one sense I'm sorry I am not getting one, but I have already turned down a kind offer from a board member. I am just not that motivated to buy it. I have a 1949 Truman inaugural medal plus some nice 1948 Truman campaign buttons so I don't feel compelled to chase after this.
And no, generally I am not a fan of reverse Proofs. They are a gimmick, and this thing is just the mint's effort to revive a dead series. The Proof presidential dollars as a series is pretty much dead on arrival.
Finally I still think it is a shame that collectors who did not have access during the 15 minute opportunity window now have to pay through the nose to get a set.
Unlike the Silver Kennedy RP or the March of Dimes RP (unique denominational coin finishes), the Pres $1 RP coins, while unique to each President, provide collectors a multitude of choices to capture a type $1 Pres coin with RP. For example, collectors might be 100% satisfied with the Kennedy coin to fill their type slot and not give Truman another passing thought. And, we both know the tiny group of collectors out there today that actually collect all of the Pres $1 coins as compared to silver Kennedy coins or Roosie dimes. If collectors could care less about precious metal unique type coins with mintages under 10,000 (that often sell for melt), who is to say that these Truman coins will perform all that well from here a year out?
Just my two cents.
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<< <i>As posted on Coin World, photo of an actual, in hand, RP Truman, delivered this morning. LINK
I have to say I like the silver medal as a representation of President Truman a lot better. Anybody got a picture of one in hand?
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My sister in Hawaii had her order ship yesterday as well and it is being sent to her via USPS Priority Mail and it will be there Monday, July 6. And that includes a postal holiday this weekend for July 4.
Pretty crazy!!! Is it really that much of a cost savings to use FedEx Smartpost? Cost doesn't seem to matter to the US Mint anyways as they seemingly shipped my sister's order of 5 sets in 5 separate Priority Mail boxes, instead of just sending them in one box. At least that how it looks to her as they gave her 5 different tracking numbers
Oh well... excited to be getting the coins at all I guess
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<< <i>Was checking my tracking number and can't believe how horrible FedEx Smartpost is. I had my order ship yesterday and the tracking is showing that I should get the package on Saturday, July 11!!! Don't understand how they can be so much slower than the USPS.
My sister in Hawaii had her order ship yesterday as well and it is being sent to her via USPS Priority Mail and it will be there Monday, July 6. And that includes a postal holiday this weekend for July 4.
Pretty crazy!!! Is it really that much of a cost savings to use FedEx Smartpost? Cost doesn't seem to matter to the US Mint anyways as they seemingly shipped my sister's order of 5 sets in 5 separate Priority Mail boxes, instead of just sending them in one box. At least that how it looks to her as they gave her 5 different tracking numbers
Oh well... excited to be getting the coins at all I guess
Can you believe this ??? FedEX ships to Chicago .. then ships Mint package to New Berlin ,Wisconsin a 100 miles.. then Postal Service ships back to Chicago .. then to local P.O for delivery.. all for $4.95
<< <i>Was checking my tracking number and can't believe how horrible FedEx Smartpost is. I had my order ship yesterday and the tracking is showing that I should get the package on Saturday, July 11!!! Don't understand how they can be so much slower than the USPS. >>
I got the same thing. Funny how it is even slower than FedEx ground.
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<< <i>Interesting that my second order shipped first - 03356 (4)
3355 (1) has not. >>
Interesting. Will this be another "First in - Whenever out" issue like the UHR Eagle? I remember I ordered late and got mine way before some on here who ordered early. >>
My second order shipped first as well.
Maybe it's the low relief coupled with the RP
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<< <i>Has anyone got a shipping notice for today or did they all ship out yesterday? >>
Got my second shipping confirmation today for my first order of (1)
Alex
From the FedEx tracking site:
Dimensions 22x17x11 in.
Packaging Package
<< <i>I have no idea what they are sending me the package is enormous:
From the FedEx tracking site:
Dimensions 22x17x11 in.
Packaging Package >>
50 sets? LOL!!!
<< <i>I have no idea what they are sending me the package is enormous:
From the FedEx tracking site:
Dimensions 22x17x11 in.
Packaging Package >>
Do tell when it arrives!
Alex
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<< <i>Maybe they ran out of boxes, I got 2 order, Dimensions 9x9x9 in and 22x17x11 in. Weight around 2.2 lbs. >>
I looked at pictures of the boxes for sale on eBay and they show as S1 - 11 x 6 x 4.
If this is correct, this box should fit snugly in a USPS medium flat rate box (11 x 8.5 x 5.5) and well within a USPS large flat rate box (12 x 12 x 5.5)
<< <i>I believe that J.R. Sinnock was able to model Truman from an in-person meeting - I'm pretty sure, but maybe not. I truly enjoy his work. If you like the Silver Truman medal when you get it in-hand, I suggest that you buy a 3 inch 1st term bronze Truman mint medal, or a second-term one from the late 80s. >>
How about this one, the Truman inaugural medal? Here is a picture along with a write-up I did for it for a member of my club who had one given to him by a family member. A nice example will run you $200 to $250.
Mintages
Metal Number Minted
Gold 3
Silver 9
Bronze 7,500
Harry S. Truman's surprise victory in the 1948 presidential election prompted more than a million people to attend his inauguration in on January 20, 1949. Part of this intense interest may have been due to the subdued war time ceremony that marked Franklin Roosevelt's fourth inaugural in 1945. Perhaps the people to looking to have a post war celebration. The parade was seven and a half miles long and was accompanied by the fly over of 700 aircraft past the reviewing stand.
For the first time the bronze inaugural medals were made in a large quantity and offered to the crowd at $2.00 each in bronze. Artist C. Paul Jennewein sculpted the obverse which was modeled from life. Jennewein added the phrase F Ad Vivum, "made from life" beside his signature below Truman's bust. Forty-eight stars surround the bust. Thirteen of them are larger than the others.
The reverse reflected design suggestions from Mint Director, Nellie Tayloe Ross. It features a figure of Lady Liberty, wearing a Phrygian cap, indicative of freedom. To her left are figures representing humanity who are yearning to be free. Lady Liberty holds a laurel spray in her left hand indicating that liberty has been victorious.
The three gold medals were given to Harry S. Truman, Nellie Tayloe Ross and Melvin D. Hildreth who was the chairman of inaugural committee. The Truman piece is in his library. The other two pieces are presumably still held by the families of Mrs. Ross and Mr. Hildreth.
The Philadelphia Mint struck the bronze medals. The finish that the mint gave these pieces has not always been stable, and many pieces have acquired unattractive spots and tarnish. Pieces with attractive surfaces are worth a premium.