<< <i>There are currently a few BINs for the NGC 70 sets at just under $300, but they might not have been available when a few sets sold at higher prices. >>
They were. I've been watching as I've been selling.
<< <i> WHY would someone pay $379 when there were many lower BINs? Just never ceases to amaze me. >>
I also look at it the other way...why would someone list a BIN way below what the potential is for the set? >>
One seller noted a weekend sale. Some sellers might just need the cash now
To think someone paid $379 when there were multiple sub $300 BINs just boggles my mind. >>
Check seller feedback
Some don't buy from sellers who have a thin or no history of selling coins. >>
That would make sense. However, in this case several less expensive sets were up from long time coin sellers with excellent feedback, including mine (now sold) when the $379 set sold. I've seen this same thing with many other numismatic products. As in this case, I just don't get it. Ebay is at least interesting.
After witnessing the hyperbole with the Gold Kennedys, (remember 7/8's passion?); the continued search for the holy grail of the salad years from the Mint, 2006-2009, feels cyclical with regards to the high hopes the grail will appear again, and alas, the salad may has passed.
I dropped off a bulk submission of dimes at the Long Beach show a few days ago... just before the First Strike cut-off... hoping for much better grades this time around
Had lots of interest in the sets and dimes at the Long Beach show as well. Also had many more people that hadn't yet seen the sets or hadn't heard of them at all. Seems like there is a lot of opportunity for demand to grow as more and more collectors learn of the set and decide they want it.
bestday, I think this series has seen its 'best days'.....the hype won't work anymore IMHO. >>
In the "tv sales" area, i think they could move raw sets of these in the low $100 area easily.
But them buying sealed boxes or already graded sets would require a higher sales price
I am uncertain about sales of these at a higher price point in the future. They did move quite a number of high priced ANACS FDOI sets. On the other hand future sales would not be FDOI and pricing a PcGS first strike 70 set in the same park as their ANACS FDOI would kind of kill their main grading-sales point tool.
<< <i>MOD PCGS graded 3 coin set goes unsold for $119.99 >>
It says "This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing." So it might have gone unsold, or it might have been pulled for other reasons. It might have fetched a bid or two if the auction had run to completion.
There is really no comparison with this set. It is the first (so far) Reverse Proof dime minted and only 75K made. The Roosevelt proof dime mintage has to go back to 1951 to find a lower one for the other dime.... again only in this set.. So whether the hype is over or not I do not know. My gut tells me this set has some staying power especially because of strong sales. When the mint makes another Reverse Proof Dime with a higher mintage this one will become the key.....
bestday, I think this series has seen its 'best days'.....the hype won't work anymore IMHO. >>
Come on Goldbully . you have saying it is all over for MOD for weeks . you all know the set has already been a winner for many .. with only better yet to come ... open sets still over a $100.00 wow.. 6 weeks in from Mint distribution and yet the price has not collapsed, as several here including yourself, wanted and predicted . In commodity trading if prices aren't going the way you want ,step aside or get rolled over ..lol Prices still higher .. like it or not ..the PCGS 70 Reverse Proof is /will be the star ..No MOD set price correction .. still higher to go
<< <i> With the all ANACs sets sold by TV seller, surprised they aren't tried for a flip .. meaning they were bought as a keeper >>
Last couple of weeks there were more for sale but in the $550-599 range...obviously didn't sell....and you are correct about them being "keepers". I REALLY doubt informed coin collectors/sellers would but those at the TV price just for a flip....it's grandpa buying a set to save for his grand kids....and others who bought the TV hype
...and re: NGC POP's....not out of whack for their normal special set percentages so definitely expected and factor in already. The only real outlier in the grading game is the PCGS RP dime...must be something THEY are keying in on....I am definitely no dime specialist but I am pretty good with deciding which ASE's to have graded. I looked at my 8 RP70's under magnification and they are stellar...no issues at all and, IMHO, deserving of the grade
I am quietly selling out of my PCGS 70FS sets off my website ($550/set list price) without the need to "give them away" on ebay for whatever reason. The PCGS coins appear to be well received by the collecting public and honestly my only real concern at this point is possibly selling out entirely of the 70FS sets and being unable to replace them later at any "reasonable" rate for the next group of collectors that might be looking for them come the start of the Christmas season.
Just my two cents.
Wondercoin
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<< <i>I am quietly selling out of my PCGS 70FS sets off my website ($550/set list price) without the need to "give them away" on ebay for whatever reason. The PCGS coins appear to be well received by the collecting public and honestly my only real concern at this point is possibly selling out entirely of the 70FS sets and being unable to replace them later at any "reasonable" rate for the next group of collectors that might be looking for them come the start of the Christmas season.
Just my two cents.
Wondercoin >>
Why don't you try Great Collections .. wider exposure .. put 2 set together .. no juice
"Why don't you try Great Collections .. wider exposure .. put 2 set together .. no juice"
Wider exposure to what? If I am getting $550/set right now with "little exposure" off my website, while other sellers are getting $440-$525/set with tons of exposure on ebay and upwards of $50 in ebay and paypal fees on top of that lesser net amount, I am not sure what GC could (or could not do for me).
That said, I have not ruled out sending a few sets over to Ian ... he runs a very professional weekly auction and tell me ... what other auction company answers their phones at around 8:00 p.m. on Sunday nights?
Wondercoin
Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
<< <i>"Why don't you try Great Collections .. wider exposure .. put 2 set together .. no juice"
Wider exposure to what? If I am getting $550/set right now with "little exposure" off my website, while other sellers are getting $440-$525/set with tons of exposure on ebay and upwards of $50 in ebay and paypal fees on top of that lesser net amount, I am not sure what GC could (or could not do for me).
That said, I have not ruled out sending a few sets over to Ian ... he runs a very professional weekly auction and tell me ... what other auction company answers their phones at around 8:00 p.m. on Sunday nights?
Wondercoin >>
I think you can get more on GC .... especially with PCGS 70s sets... GC with no paypal fees , shipping headaches than on Ebay ..... items above 1,000 no juice
Bestday ... I understand that you believe I can get more than $550 hammer a set for 70FS right now (at GC and possibly elsewhere). But, with "weak sisters" out there selling the sets for literally whatever they can get (i.e. entertaining lowball best offers in my view), I sincerely doubt that GC could compete against that and get bidders to pay MORE than they can buy a set for on my site ($550), ebay, etc.
That said, again, my comment has nothing to do with the fine job GC can do with a consignment.
Wondercoin
Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
I am buoyed by you and Bully keeping the energy up for moderns debate as the forum would be at a loss without you. >>
Thanks Miles, you are most kind. Helping to keep each other interested and motivated is part of what this community is all about. I always enjoy your posts as well.
bestday, I think this series has seen its 'best days'.....the hype won't work anymore IMHO. >>
They obviously had the chance to get the designation.
now it is too costly to upgrade them for sale.
I keep going back to the tv people. I think tv people will keep demand for these up well into the future, just like the 2014 Sacs. With that in mind, this person might be able to sell in the future once other "more popular" graded sets are sold off. They likely just need to wait it out.
That was Sunday and 30 minutes later a set went for $143.50 as mentioned in a post
<< <i>NGC69's...$123.50 PCGS69's.$143.50 >>
No pure PCGS 69 or 70 sets sold yesterday but an NGC69 went for $130.50
Re: NGC 70 sets....they are all over the place with very little love for the ER blue label vs. FDR
A Blue label ER set went for $232.50 followed 12 minutes later by an FDR label set at $305...others were up/down ...$332, $281, $304.69
Bargains are out there if you want to find them....no reason to buy at the top price of the day...
PCGS sets (even 69) still scarce but prices don't seem to be reflecting this fact.... I would have thought there would be a crapload of both NGC and PCGS sets flooding the market by now....might say something
No clue what the market is for either the FS or reg label of the RP since there haven't been any sales of either (alone)...obviously no one thinks $254.95 is appropriate for the reg
Regarding that regular label RP....it is from a POP of TWO.....51 submitted for regular label...two 70's...a respectable 3.9% rate vs right around 30% for the FS submissions....and it did not sell....not like there is going to be a boatload of 70's to follow
To this day I still don't get why the words "First Strikes" or "Early Releases" make such a difference to a coin's value when it comes to moderns. It's just an arbitrary submission deadline. For all we know, some of the coins shipped after date X may have been struck before some that shipped prior. Public perception seems to be that those labels are "real" PF70/MS70/PF69/etc., and if the coin doesn't have that designation it's only a 69.5 or 68.5... but that is purely a fantasy. The very epitome of hype.
I'm sure this topic has been flogged to death before... but I still don't get it. A 70 is a 70.
"I'm sure this topic has been flogged to death before... but I still don't get it. A 70 is a 70."
Nah, it hasn't been flogged much, the FS issue; more so, pounding a big metal blade into the FS head, then hanging it until it was almost dead but not quite,
then taking it down and drawing and quartering it, then sewing it back together, then hanging it again, then shooting it full of arrows. But not flogged.
<< <i>To this day I still don't get why the words "First Strikes" or "Early Releases" make such a difference to a coin's value when it comes to moderns. >>
...I agree but.....3% vs. 30%..... if I was thinking about submitting my after FS coins for grading it would be DEFINITELY squashed seeing those stats...what's the point...and the non-FS 70 doesn't sell!!!! Major DUH
<< <i>To this day I still don't get why the words "First Strikes" or "Early Releases" make such a difference to a coin's value when it comes to moderns. >>
...I agree but.....3% vs. 30%..... if I was thinking about submitting my after FS coins for grading it would be DEFINITELY squashed seeing those stats...what's the point...and the non-FS 70 doesn't sell!!!! Major DUH >>
As mentioned several times... the real PCGS percentage for reverse proof 70s is nowhere near 30% but is instead closer to 10-15%. The pop reports do not show you the coins PCGS has "graded" but which have not met the submitters minimum grade. So when a bulk order comes in to PCGS of 100 reverse proof dimes w/ a min grade of 70... and then only 10 get PR70... only the 10 PR70s get added to the pop report while the 90 others do not get entered in the pop report anywhere. Accordingly, the percentage of coins grading 69 and 70 are significantly exaggerated if you only look at the PCGS population report.
<< <i>To this day I still don't get why the words "First Strikes" or "Early Releases" make such a difference to a coin's value when it comes to moderns. >>
...I agree but.....3% vs. 30%..... if I was thinking about submitting my after FS coins for grading it would be DEFINITELY squashed seeing those stats...what's the point...and the non-FS 70 doesn't sell!!!! Major DUH >>
As mentioned several times... the real PCGS percentage for reverse proof 70s is nowhere near 30% but is instead closer to 10-15%. The pop reports do not show you the coins PCGS has "graded" but which have not met the submitters minimum grade. So when a bulk order comes in to PCGS of 100 reverse proof dimes w/ a min grade of 70... and then only 10 get PR70... only the 10 PR70s get added to the pop report while the 90 others do not get entered in the pop report anywhere. Accordingly, the percentage of coins grading 69 and 70 are significantly exaggerated if you only look at the PCGS population report. >>
Wait, just want clarify based on what it show on Pcgs website for bulk submit minimum grade is 69, NOT 70. Or something I don't know about it?
<< <i>Wait, just want clarify based on what it show on Pcgs website for bulk submit minimum grade is 69, NOT 70. Or something I don't know about it? >>
The minimum grade is that, the minimum you want. You can set it at 69, 68, ..., 62... I sent in a few dozen sets and my PR70 % was VERY VERY low, less than 15%. All the others graded 69. I had 9 rejects on the $1 proof coin with a min grade of 65.
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PR69DCAM/PR69DCAM/PR69.....Non First Strike!!!
Not a good sign for First Strike challenged submitters.
Edited to add: 3 coin PCGS first strike 69 set tonight
$137.50
bestday, I think this series has seen its 'best days'.....the hype won't work anymore IMHO.
<< <i>There are currently a few BINs for the NGC 70 sets at just under $300, but they might not have been available when a few sets sold at higher prices. >>
They were. I've been watching as I've been selling.
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<< <i> WHY would someone pay $379 when there were many lower BINs? Just never ceases to amaze me. >>
I also look at it the other way...why would someone list a BIN way below what the potential is for the set? >>
One seller noted a weekend sale. Some sellers might just need the cash now
To think someone paid $379 when there were multiple sub $300 BINs just boggles my mind. >>
Check seller feedback
Some don't buy from sellers who have a thin or no history of selling coins. >>
That would make sense. However, in this case several less expensive sets were up from long time coin sellers with excellent feedback, including mine (now sold) when the $379 set sold. I've seen this same thing with many other numismatic products. As in this case, I just don't get it. Ebay is at least interesting.
I have witnessed the history being that 69's are typically a break even point, at best. With costs, sometimes the 70's, too.
The 70's have become the only possible "winner" and that becomes dependent on milk spots and a very fickle market for moderns.
And then you factor in the significant smaller value of NGC under PCGS, and oh what a gamble.
<< <i>I am confused. When has the 69 badge with moderns been expected to remain double what the raw version costs?
I have witnessed the history being that 69's are typically a break even point, at best. With costs, sometimes the 70's, too.
The 70's have become the only possible "winner" and that becomes dependent on milk spots and a very fickle market for moderns.
And then you factor in the significant smaller value of NGC under PCGS, and oh what a gamble. >>
Gamble is the key word here, Miles.....not to mention your confusion. Good to see you posting tonight.
GB
After witnessing the hyperbole with the Gold Kennedys, (remember 7/8's passion?); the continued search for the holy grail of the salad years
from the Mint, 2006-2009, feels cyclical with regards to the high hopes the grail will appear again, and alas, the salad may has passed.
<< <i>
<< <i> Good to see you posting tonight.
+1 :-)
I am buoyed by you and Bully keeping the energy up for moderns debate as the forum would be at a loss without you.
Had lots of interest in the sets and dimes at the Long Beach show as well. Also had many more people that hadn't yet seen the sets or hadn't heard of them at all. Seems like there is a lot of opportunity for demand to grow as more and more collectors learn of the set and decide they want it.
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<< <i>MOD PCGS graded 3 coin set goes unsold for $119.99
PR69DCAM/PR69DCAM/PR69.....Non First Strike!!!
Not a good sign for First Strike challenged submitters.
Edited to add: 3 coin PCGS first strike 69 set tonight
$137.50
bestday, I think this series has seen its 'best days'.....the hype won't work anymore IMHO. >>
In the "tv sales" area, i think they could move raw sets of these in the low $100 area easily.
But them buying sealed boxes or already graded sets would require a higher sales price
I am uncertain about sales of these at a higher price point in the future. They did move quite a number of high priced ANACS FDOI sets. On the other hand future sales would not be FDOI and pricing a PcGS first strike 70 set in the same park as their ANACS FDOI would kind of kill their main grading-sales point tool.
<< <i>MOD PCGS graded 3 coin set goes unsold for $119.99 >>
It says "This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing." So it might have gone unsold, or it might have been pulled for other reasons. It might have fetched a bid or two if the auction had run to completion.
My Adolph A. Weinman signature
<< <i>MOD PCGS graded 3 coin set goes unsold for $119.99
PR69DCAM/PR69DCAM/PR69.....Non First Strike!!!
Not a good sign for First Strike challenged submitters.
Edited to add: 3 coin PCGS first strike 69 set tonight
$137.50
bestday, I think this series has seen its 'best days'.....the hype won't work anymore IMHO. >>
Come on Goldbully . you have saying it is all over for MOD for weeks . you all know the set has already been a winner for many .. with only better yet to come ... open sets still over a $100.00 wow.. 6 weeks in from Mint distribution and yet the price has not collapsed, as several here including yourself, wanted and predicted .
In commodity trading if prices aren't going the way you want ,step aside or get rolled over ..lol
Prices still higher .. like it or not ..the PCGS 70 Reverse Proof is /will be the star ..No MOD set price correction .. still higher to go
Hoard the keys.
Last few NGC70 sets went for $317, $305, $324 (ER) (RP70 dime $217.50..$197.50)
Last couple of PCGS70 sets went for $475, $491 (FS)
NGC69's...$123.50
PCGS69's.$143.50
Last raw...$115.51
Last sealed box of 5 (FS ok) $540
No $1 pops yet.
So I did slightly better than average. Still happy with my grades, even more happy if many did a slab-only-70 option.
Edited to add: First/Early Release for NGC has passed, those numbers should be final...
<< <i>Edited to add: First/Early Release for NGC has passed, those numbers should be final... >>
Probably not...I would think there are a bunch that were received on and just before 6/3 that haven't been graded yet
Nice catch on the numbers...I've been checking for an update every day but didn't bother on Sunday
Edited to add: ahhh...actually updated TODAY and the last update was also on Monday
<< <i>Last Updated 6/8/2015 >>
ANACS 70 set
Seller has two more if you are interested...
<< <i>Prices seem to be finding a base and hanging right around that number....
Last few NGC70 sets went for $317, $305, $324 (ER) (RP70 dime $217.50..$197.50)
Last couple of PCGS70 sets went for $475, $491 (FS)
NGC69's...$123.50
PCGS69's.$143.50
Last raw...$115.51
Last sealed box of 5 (FS ok) $540 >>
Goldbully .. The PCGS sets will not move lower..NGC sets steady .. the 1st spot to get weakness because of higher pops
With the all ANACs sets sold by TV seller, surprised they aren't tried for a flip .. meaning they were bought as a keeper
<< <i> With the all ANACs sets sold by TV seller, surprised they aren't tried for a flip .. meaning they were bought as a keeper >>
Last couple of weeks there were more for sale but in the $550-599 range...obviously didn't sell....and you are correct about them being "keepers". I REALLY doubt informed coin collectors/sellers would but those at the TV price just for a flip....it's grandpa buying a set to save for his grand kids....and others who bought the TV hype
...and re: NGC POP's....not out of whack for their normal special set percentages so definitely expected and factor in already. The only real outlier in the grading game is the PCGS RP dime...must be something THEY are keying in on....I am definitely no dime specialist but I am pretty good with deciding which ASE's to have graded. I looked at my 8 RP70's under magnification and they are stellar...no issues at all and, IMHO, deserving of the grade
......................DM1.......DM2.......DM5
5/10/2015...45,384...20,980...69,050
5/17/2015...46,179...21,237...74,549
5/24/2015...46,733...21,380...74,806
5/31/2015...47,431...21,499...74,976
6/07/2015...47,839...21,613...74,913
DM1: Silver $1 Proof
DM2: Silver $1 Uncirc
DM5: Special set
Just my two cents.
Wondercoin
<< <i>I am quietly selling out of my PCGS 70FS sets off my website ($550/set list price) without the need to "give them away" on ebay for whatever reason. The PCGS coins appear to be well received by the collecting public and honestly my only real concern at this point is possibly selling out entirely of the 70FS sets and being unable to replace them later at any "reasonable" rate for the next group of collectors that might be looking for them come the start of the Christmas season.
Just my two cents.
Wondercoin >>
Why don't you try Great Collections .. wider exposure .. put 2 set together .. no juice
Wider exposure to what? If I am getting $550/set right now with "little exposure" off my website, while other sellers are getting $440-$525/set with tons of exposure on ebay and upwards of $50 in ebay and paypal fees on top of that lesser net amount, I am not sure what GC could (or could not do for me).
That said, I have not ruled out sending a few sets over to Ian ... he runs a very professional weekly auction and tell me ... what other auction company answers their phones at around 8:00 p.m. on Sunday nights?
Wondercoin
<< <i>"Why don't you try Great Collections .. wider exposure .. put 2 set together .. no juice"
Wider exposure to what? If I am getting $550/set right now with "little exposure" off my website, while other sellers are getting $440-$525/set with tons of exposure on ebay and upwards of $50 in ebay and paypal fees on top of that lesser net amount, I am not sure what GC could (or could not do for me).
That said, I have not ruled out sending a few sets over to Ian ... he runs a very professional weekly auction and tell me ... what other auction company answers their phones at around 8:00 p.m. on Sunday nights?
Wondercoin >>
I think you can get more on GC .... especially with PCGS 70s sets... GC with no paypal fees , shipping headaches than on Ebay ..... items above 1,000 no juice
That said, again, my comment has nothing to do with the fine job GC can do with a consignment.
Wondercoin
eBay set PCGS 69/69/70 FS Flag Label
$156.50 + S&H
Not too bad I guess.
PCGS 69 set First Strike
$137.50.....that's down a bit.
<< <i>Greeting, Raufus!
I am buoyed by you and Bully keeping the energy up for moderns debate as the forum would be at a loss without you. >>
Thanks Miles, you are most kind. Helping to keep each other interested and motivated is part of what this community is all about. I always enjoy your posts as well.
<< <i>Prices seem to be finding a base and hanging right around that number....
Last few NGC70 sets went for $317, $305, $324 (ER) (RP70 dime $217.50..$197.50)
Last couple of PCGS70 sets went for $475, $491 (FS)
NGC69's...$123.50
PCGS69's.$143.50
Last raw...$115.51
Last sealed box of 5 (FS ok) $540 >>
Thanks very much for the great update!!
<< <i>Somebody bought one
ANACS 70 set
Seller has two more if you are interested... >>
while neither promoting nor demoting (
<< <i>MOD PCGS graded 3 coin set goes unsold for $119.99
PR69DCAM/PR69DCAM/PR69.....Non First Strike!!!
Not a good sign for First Strike challenged submitters.
Edited to add: 3 coin PCGS first strike 69 set tonight
$137.50
bestday, I think this series has seen its 'best days'.....the hype won't work anymore IMHO. >>
They obviously had the chance to get the designation.
now it is too costly to upgrade them for sale.
I keep going back to the tv people. I think tv people will keep demand for these up well into the future, just like the 2014 Sacs. With that in mind, this person might be able to sell in the future once other "more popular" graded sets are sold off. They likely just need to wait it out.
<< <i>$137.50.....that's down a bit >>
That was Sunday and 30 minutes later a set went for $143.50 as mentioned in a post
<< <i>NGC69's...$123.50
PCGS69's.$143.50 >>
No pure PCGS 69 or 70 sets sold yesterday but an NGC69 went for $130.50
Re: NGC 70 sets....they are all over the place with very little love for the ER blue label vs. FDR
A Blue label ER set went for $232.50
Bargains are out there if you want to find them....no reason to buy at the top price of the day...
PCGS sets (even 69) still scarce but prices don't seem to be reflecting this fact.... I would have thought there would be a crapload of both NGC and PCGS sets flooding the market by now....might say something
eBay PCGS 70 rev. prf.
<< <i>New numbers from the Mint are out (should anyone care). We may have another window of a few seconds as the mint sells out...
......................DM1.......DM2.......DM5
5/10/2015...45,384...20,980...69,050
5/17/2015...46,179...21,237...74,549
5/24/2015...46,733...21,380...74,806
5/31/2015...47,431...21,499...74,976
6/07/2015...47,839...21,613...74,913
DM1: Silver $1 Proof
DM2: Silver $1 Uncirc
DM5: Special set >>
Just order 38 sets from usmint.
<< <i>PCGS rev prf 70 with a BIN of $254.95 (reg label)....2 hours to go. Wow, what a difference in price a label makes.
eBay PCGS 70 rev. prf. >>
Only $20 more than a NGC 70...bad choice for label
<< <i>PCGS rev prf 70 with a BIN of $254.95 (reg label)....2 hours to go. Wow, what a difference in price a label makes.
eBay PCGS 70 rev. prf. >>
No clue what the market is for either the FS or reg label of the RP since there haven't been any sales of either (alone)...obviously no one thinks $254.95 is appropriate for the reg
I'm sure this topic has been flogged to death before... but I still don't get it. A 70 is a 70.
... except when it apparently isn't.
1/2 Cents
U.S. Revenue Stamps
Nah, it hasn't been flogged much, the FS issue; more so, pounding a big metal blade into the FS head, then hanging it until it was almost dead but not quite,
then taking it down and drawing and quartering it, then sewing it back together, then hanging it again, then shooting it full of arrows. But not flogged.
<< <i>To this day I still don't get why the words "First Strikes" or "Early Releases" make such a difference to a coin's value when it comes to moderns. >>
...I agree but.....3% vs. 30%..... if I was thinking about submitting my after FS coins for grading it would be DEFINITELY squashed seeing those stats...what's the point...and the non-FS 70 doesn't sell!!!! Major DUH
Some price Collapse ..eh ?
<< <i>
<< <i>To this day I still don't get why the words "First Strikes" or "Early Releases" make such a difference to a coin's value when it comes to moderns. >>
...I agree but.....3% vs. 30%..... if I was thinking about submitting my after FS coins for grading it would be DEFINITELY squashed seeing those stats...what's the point...and the non-FS 70 doesn't sell!!!! Major DUH
As mentioned several times... the real PCGS percentage for reverse proof 70s is nowhere near 30% but is instead closer to 10-15%. The pop reports do not show you the coins PCGS has "graded" but which have not met the submitters minimum grade. So when a bulk order comes in to PCGS of 100 reverse proof dimes w/ a min grade of 70... and then only 10 get PR70... only the 10 PR70s get added to the pop report while the 90 others do not get entered in the pop report anywhere. Accordingly, the percentage of coins grading 69 and 70 are significantly exaggerated if you only look at the PCGS population report.
Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 448
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>To this day I still don't get why the words "First Strikes" or "Early Releases" make such a difference to a coin's value when it comes to moderns. >>
...I agree but.....3% vs. 30%..... if I was thinking about submitting my after FS coins for grading it would be DEFINITELY squashed seeing those stats...what's the point...and the non-FS 70 doesn't sell!!!! Major DUH
As mentioned several times... the real PCGS percentage for reverse proof 70s is nowhere near 30% but is instead closer to 10-15%. The pop reports do not show you the coins PCGS has "graded" but which have not met the submitters minimum grade. So when a bulk order comes in to PCGS of 100 reverse proof dimes w/ a min grade of 70... and then only 10 get PR70... only the 10 PR70s get added to the pop report while the 90 others do not get entered in the pop report anywhere. Accordingly, the percentage of coins grading 69 and 70 are significantly exaggerated if you only look at the PCGS population report. >>
Wait, just want clarify based on what it show on Pcgs website for bulk submit minimum grade is 69, NOT 70. Or something I don't know about it?
<< <i>Prices from local B&Ms .... today on the MOD set ......open sets .... $70 - $80....... sealed sets ....$90 - $100.. >>
tv.
if you are getting 70-80 on opened sets, buy them and wait for the tv people.
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<< <i>Prices from local B&Ms .... today on the MOD set ......open sets .... $70 - $80....... sealed sets ....$90 - $100.. >>
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if you are getting 70-80 on opened sets, buy them and wait for the tv people. >>
Shame once again ,some forum people sold sets too early
<< <i>Wait, just want clarify based on what it show on Pcgs website for bulk submit minimum grade is 69, NOT 70. Or something I don't know about it? >>
The minimum grade is that, the minimum you want. You can set it at 69, 68, ..., 62... I sent in a few dozen sets and my PR70 % was VERY VERY low, less than 15%. All the others graded 69. I had 9 rejects on the $1 proof coin with a min grade of 65.