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1919 Mercury Dime - CONFIRMED: DDO Discovery Piece (Census in 1st post)

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, indeed!
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  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah. I had been mulling it over. I figure listing it as a "Buy It Now" with "Best Offer" would garner some attention. I want to get as much attention to them as possible, so that when I do or if I do send it to true auction there will have been some non coin nerd types like us to see them. If it does sell at that asking price, which I seriously doubt it will, I will be shocked. But at least I can see if anybody is willing to make offers or ask questions. FYI, I'm willing to sell for far below the BIN price. But this will get me free 30 day advertising for a whopping $1.50. Had I listed as an auction with a reserve then they would charge 2% of the reserve wether or not the coin sells. If it does sell then its an additional 2% on top of the FV fee.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,506 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yeah. I had been mulling it over. I figure listing it as a "Buy It Now" with "Best Offer" would garner some attention. I want to get as much attention to them as possible, so that when I do or if I do send it to true auction there will have been some non coin nerd types like us to see them. If it does sell at that asking price, which I seriously doubt it will, I will be shocked. But at least I can see if anybody is willing to make offers or ask questions. FYI, I'm willing to sell for far below the BIN price. But this will get me free 30 day advertising for a whopping $1.50. Had I listed as an auction with a reserve then they would charge 2% of the reserve wether or not the coin sells. If it does sell then its an additional 2% on top of the FV fee. >>

    image Good thought process there. Nothing wrong with that. Any offers at all yet? You don't have to say the amounts of course, just curious.
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  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have had one offer. My hunch is it may be the same person who made me an offer on here via PM. But I'm not 100% sure on that.
  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FYI, I will update as the listing progresses on whether or not more offers come in.

    As of now, there are:
    54 views
    10 watchers
    01 offer
  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭
    eBay no longer shows when you get an offer? That's stupid.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I will out myself as a watcher of both 1919 DDOs that are on eBay right now. image
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I still say these are waaaaaaaay over priced. Put them in a true auction and let the bidding start.
  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>eBay no longer shows when you get an offer? That's stupid. >>



    That is stupid. Seeing a pending offer could have the potential to entice a higher offer from someone else or an outright purchase at the BIN price (I know they don't show the offer amount, just that there is one on the table). eBay has really swallowed the stupid pill..
  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How many of you guys are watching these auctions? Just so I can get an idea of how many are from the general population.
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice pic template jtlee.
    Looks great! image

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  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks. I designed it in Photoshop and then put it together in HTML.
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You should have done a 99 cent auction. I am rooting for you but still feel there is not going to be overwhelming interest in this, and none at 10 grand. I hope I am wrong.
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm watching both.
  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I received another offer today. It was higher than the first. I submitted a counter.

    Now at:
    175 views
    19 watchers
    02 offers
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,162 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I received another offer today. It was higher than the first. I submitted a counter.

    Now at:
    175 views
    19 watchers
    02 offers >>



    This information is useless. I don't see why all of the item's activity needs to be relayed here, that is unless you're sharing the amounts offered or have news that the coin has sold. This is my personal opinion.
    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    eBay no longer shows when you get an offer? That's stupid.

    This information is useless. I don't see why all of the item's activity needs to be relayed here, that is unless you're sharing the amounts offered or have news that the coin has sold. This is my personal opinion.

    Maybe just update one post? Since this could potentially be the first sold, I'm interested if it sells or not, and really interested in the final price, but watchers, views, etc can all be found already.


    You can see most of this info if you use a 3rd party tool.
    eBay Watchcount

    Then paste his auction URL into it (The keyword block) which is:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/231625947123?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

    You can then see the visits, watchers, and on the right is "Best Offer Enabled" - View History.



    How many of you guys are watching these auctions? Just so I can get an idea of how many are from the general population.
    I too am watching both auctions
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am watching both.
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,506 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I received another offer today. It was higher than the first. I submitted a counter.

    Now at:
    175 views
    19 watchers
    02 offers >>



    This information is useless. I don't see why all of the item's activity needs to be relayed here, that is unless you're sharing the amounts offered or have news that the coin has sold. This is my personal opinion. >>

    I believe applications for Forum Police are sent to Don Willis. Best of luck! image

    Thanks for adding your useless post to the thread. ...so I decided to add mine. Isn't this fun and productive? image
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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,651 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I am watching both. >>




    I am watching both as well, though frankly I don't expect either to sell. What I do hope is that the high BINs flush another unreported example or two onto eBay, maybe even in a true auction format.


    Sean
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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I received another offer today. It was higher than the first. I submitted a counter. >>




    What would make it useful would be to know the offer amount and the counter amount. Otherwise, it is useless as stated above.
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was shown a raw XF for example at the Baltimore show. The owner is a fly-in club member and had it for over 20 years. He never thought too much about it until the news broke about this coin. I advised him to submit it to PCGS after they assign a number to it.
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  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I was shown a raw XF for example at the Baltimore show. The owner is a fly-in club member and had it for over 20 years. He never thought too much about it until the news broke about this coin. I advised him to submit it to PCGS after they assign a number to it. >>



    Sweet, that will make #8.

    PCGS has a # for it already with a pop of 1 (The VG-8 / #3 coin) that is currently on eBay.

    Is the owner a board member? I like to put as much info as I can in the census I have.

    PCGS #: 545047
    http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/545047/
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    "You Suck Award" - February, 2015

    Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,266 ✭✭✭
    If I find one that will grade equal to or below the XF example that jtlee321 has I will get it graded at PCGS and run it at one of the major auction houses (HA, GreatCollections, or Ebay) with a $200 start price with No Reserve. Mark me down for it.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,118 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I was shown a raw XF for example at the Baltimore show. The owner is a fly-in club member and had it for over 20 years. He never thought too much about it until the news broke about this coin. I advised him to submit it to PCGS after they assign a number to it. >>



    Thanks for the report! Why in the world did he never report it???
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  • bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
    I just bought this at coin dealer in Pantego, TX. I know it is very worn and has damage but it looks promising. What do you all think? How can I enhance the contrast?

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tony - nothing there looks doubled to me.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does not look like the doubled die to me.
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doesn't look doubled to me either.
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  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I see what you think you see. But the doubling in the DDO-001 is directly west. I think you see what looks like a fat cross bar on the "T" moving south. I've seen a couple like that on eBay but it looks like just die deterioration to me. Look for a fat vertical bar on the "T" of worn examples.
  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I was shown a raw XF for example at the Baltimore show. The owner is a fly-in club member and had it for over 20 years. He never thought too much about it until the news broke about this coin. I advised him to submit it to PCGS after they assign a number to it. >>



    I am right with Strikeout on this. I would love to see it, or at least get more information about it.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,118 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I was shown a raw XF for example at the Baltimore show. The owner is a fly-in club member and had it for over 20 years. He never thought too much about it until the news broke about this coin. I advised him to submit it to PCGS after they assign a number to it. >>



    I am right with Strikeout on this. I would love to see it, or at least get more information about it. >>



    Agreed, but Rick is a very knowledgeable numismatist and variety man. If he says it is the variety and a raw EF, it is.
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,506 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I was shown a raw XF for example at the Baltimore show. The owner is a fly-in club member and had it for over 20 years. He never thought too much about it until the news broke about this coin. I advised him to submit it to PCGS after they assign a number to it. >>



    I am right with Strikeout on this. I would love to see it, or at least get more information about it. >>



    Agreed, but Rick is a very knowledgeable numismatist and variety man. If he says it is the variety and a raw EF, it is. >>

    I don't think jtlee321 was questioning Rick's knowledge or abilities. It is just a hot/fun topic of discussion and exciting to hear of another example. Seeing pics would just add to the fun is all.
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  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Exactly what Keyman64 said. It exciting to hear of a new one.
  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd never question Rick about verifying a variety or grading a coin. That's on par with questioning whether or not Mickey Mantle could play baseball.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PCGS DISCOVERY COIN SLAB LABEL THREAD
    Might be of interest to some people in this thread.
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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I asked the owner to send it to me. Perhaps in time for the big show in Chicago.
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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That '70-D 2-O-I/DDO 002 is my discovery coin, found at a show in Jamestown NY in 1998. I sold it thru Heritage at the 2013 FUN show. It remains the best discovery coin I've ever found. There's still only a couple of them known.
  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So how were you able to get PCGS to label the coin as "Discovery Coin" Did you use the secret code "up, up, down, down, a, b, a, b"?
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I included the CONECA certificate of discovery/first report of the coin.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,506 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I included the CONECA certificate of discovery/first report of the coin. >>

    As I mentioned in the other thread. I have tried offering PCGS this same scenario and have been denied. At some point they decided not to do this any longer...at least that is my guess.
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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I included the CONECA certificate of discovery/first report of the coin. >>

    As I mentioned in the other thread. I have tried offering PCGS this same scenario and have been denied. At some point they decided not to do this any longer...at least that is my guess. >>



    That's a shame and it's wrong, too.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any new finds?
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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,266 ✭✭✭
    Anybody cherried one off ebay yet?
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>>Anybody cherried one off ebay yet?<<<

    No, but I look everyday!image
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see the coin on eBay is still growing moss at the 10 grand asking price. Has even one sold anywhere yet?
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So how were you able to get PCGS to label the coin as "Discovery Coin" Did you use the secret code "up, up, down, down, a, b, a, b"? >>



    a common mistake. as an expert gamer i can assure you the code is as follows and must be entered while inverted:

    up, up, down, down, a, b, a, b. image
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  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I see the coin on eBay is still growing moss at the 10 grand asking price. Has even one sold anywhere yet? >>



    The PCGS VG-8 that Bjorn had listed with a BIN at $7900 was "No longer available" about a week after it was relisted. I sent him a PM to see if it sold, but haven't heard back.

    I think that is the closest to a sale so far.
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    Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,651 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>>>>Anybody cherried one off ebay yet?<<<

    No, but I look everyday!image >>



    Between the two of us I doubt that a single unstudied 1919 dime has gone across the block since this discovery was announced. I haven't seen anything even worth taking a flier on in weeks.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
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