My only complaint is that he took a "chance" but not really. He wanted to make sure it was real and he could get his money back if it was not graded by PSA.
In my opinion, that's not a chance. That's trying to find a guarantee.
If it was fake that should have been on the buyer as well as the 10k profit when it comes back legit.
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congrats on the card! Hell of a find. I would have snatched that up in an instant.
What's funny is that since you aren't selling the card right away (if ever)...you have effectively taken away all the pitch forks and torches that apparently were lit for you. haha.
So now that you've secured this card....what's next?
Dpeck, The discussion, for me, is not about what the value of the card is once graded vs the price purchased but rather what the value of the raw card was prior to grading. I am not an expert on this card but my understanding is that raw the card sells for thousands of dollars. Your examples all miss the mark because they are simply not valid comparisons. However it seems clear that you don't seem to get that.
Enjoy the card and that is one heck of a score! Clearly, you must now pay for her grandchildren's college to have a clear conscience. All kidding aside, I don't have a problem with how you acquired the card as she set the price. That's just the way it works sometimes, especially when she had the tools at her disposal to research it prior to listing. I empathize for her but at the end of the day she listed an item and it sold. I'm a free market guy so it shouldn't matter nor should people set arbitrary numbers on whether potential profits of $1 or $100k are too much. I for the life of me can't understand why some people chose to contact her about the sale once it was complete after the OP mentioned the sale (seems kind of perverse).
<< <i>Dpeck, The discussion, for me, is not about what the value of the card is once graded vs the price purchased but rather what the value of the raw card was prior to grading. I am not an expert on this card but my understanding is that raw the card sells for thousands of dollars. Your examples all miss the mark because they are simply not valid comparisons. However it seems clear that you don't seem to get that.
Robb >>
Your right I don't get that.
I see no difference. The enhancement of value that grading creates is just the same to me. When someone sees a raw blazer they are thinking the same thing. Score.
<< <i> (If it's real I may give her a little more money as it sounds like she might need it). >>
Wondering if you plan on following through on your thought >>
As for following through with what I said. Yes I do plan to, I am a man of my word. What a choose to do is between me and her.
And as for keeping or selling the card, I am a big collector of cal and I want to keep this card. I'll put it away and with the rarity of the card it think in 20-30 years the value will be more then what it is today. I believe the investment could be better then the stock market. Thank you to the people that congratulated me.
<< <i> (If it's real I may give her a little more money as it sounds like she might need it). >>
Wondering if you plan on following through on your thought >>
As for following through with what I said. Yes I do plan to, I am a man of my word. What a choose to do is between me and her.
And as for keeping or selling the card, I am a big collector of cal and I want to keep this card. I'll put it away and with the rarity of the card it think in 20-30 years the value will be more then what it is today. I believe the investment could be better then the stock market. Thank you to the people that congratulated me. >>
Everyone congratulated you.
I'll say it again: Congratulations!
I was once a HUGE PSA Registry collector of Mike Bossy (Islanders hockey) and there was a time when his OPC RC in PSA 10 would bring (I'm guessing) $5k (maybe someone can chime in with some real numbers there). As much as I love Bossy and Registry competing, I would have sold that card in a heartbeat is I ever got one. I think you should consider selling it, too.
You never know when the market can crash on a card. I remember when I found over 100 Gretzky 1981 OPC stickers at a baseball card shop. That single find hurt the market for that, once, tough to find card.
Sell. Buy yourself something nice. Pickup some other nice Ripkens. If you have a significant other, maybe get her/him something nice, too. Rent a late movie. Snuggle under a warm quilt and sip hot cocoa together. But don't forget to occasionally stick your feet out and feel the cold.
What's interesting about this thread is how graded values were quickly assigned to a raw card. A raw card is just that - and has a lower value for good reasons. The OP wasn't even sure the card was real at the time of purchase. If you want more money, as a seller you should do the work of getting a card graded.
Another interesting thing is all the watchers who didn't bid at $99 and were hoping to get a low snipe. I'm willing to bet they are the ones who contacted the seller after it sold.
TERRIFIC BUYER! Buyer: a***1 (Purple star icon for feedback score in between 500 to 999) During past month 1980 Charlotte O's Orioles Cal Ripken Orange border Police card (#251677614600) -- View Item
A simple quick look at completed auctions or a Google search would have returned this card.
A few years ago a seller listed a 1986 Carnation Pack sealed with the Road Warriors and Rick Martel in it that had a similar array of items minus the "throngs". I emailed the seller and asked if they would end it early and take $25. They said they were a pawn shop and it had come in and just wanted to let it run. I put in my max bid of $150 just in case and won it for $16. Had they taken my low ball offer they would have come out ahead.
This seller could have easily looked at completed listings and saw that a card prior had been listed for a large sum and simply said let me just let the market decide the price. They chose not to and the item was paid for and feedback was left.
A few months back a William McKinley 1932 American Presidents card sold for $9.99 on EBAY. Unfortunately these things happen. >>
The McKinley deal never went through...the seller never sent it out and backed out of the deal. In fact, it was recently graded and listed in the most recent REA auction (Lot 15 currently up to $80000). >>
I just read on my Facebook page that they went in on it together and consigned it to REA like you state. When an item is listed on EBAY I would think that a nasty legal battle could take place if the seller had completely backed out. On a few hundred dollar card this obviously isn't worth pursuing but on a $96,000 card it would be.
TERRIFIC BUYER! Buyer: a***1 (Purple star icon for feedback score in between 500 to 999) During past month 1980 Charlotte O's Orioles Cal Ripken Orange border Police card (#251677614600) -- View Item
A simple quick look at completed auctions or a Google search would have returned this card. >>
That's awesome timing by the op. Right place and right time I guess. I wonder what the guy that asked for the $300 BIN was thinking. Why wasn't he sitting on his computer like the little old lady and the OP were!? I would have been! Crazy world!
TERRIFIC BUYER! Buyer: a***1 (Purple star icon for feedback score in between 500 to 999) During past month 1980 Charlotte O's Orioles Cal Ripken Orange border Police card (#251677614600) -- View Item
A simple quick look at completed auctions or a Google search would have returned this card.
A few years ago a seller listed a 1986 Carnation Pack sealed with the Road Warriors and Rick Martel in it that had a similar array of items minus the "throngs". I emailed the seller and asked if they would end it early and take $25. They said they were a pawn shop and it had come in and just wanted to let it run. I put in my max bid of $150 just in case and won it for $16. Had they taken my low ball offer they would have come out ahead.
This seller could have easily looked at completed listings and saw that a card prior had been listed for a large sum and simply said let me just let the market decide the price. They chose not to and the item was paid for and feedback was left.
A few months back a William McKinley 1932 American Presidents card sold for $9.99 on EBAY. Unfortunately these things happen. >>
The McKinley deal never went through...the seller never sent it out and backed out of the deal. In fact, it was recently graded and listed in the most recent REA auction (Lot 15 currently up to $80000). >>
I just read on my Facebook page that they went in on it together and consigned it to REA like you state. When an item is listed on EBAY I would think that a nasty legal battle could take place if the seller had completely backed out. On a few hundred dollar card this obviously isn't worth pursuing but on a $96,000 card it would be. >>
I saw that as well. Quite a payday for all involved.
<< <i>I have purchased a few items where I email the seller and see if they will turn it into a buy it now. >>
yes, like the carnation flair pack a few years back from the pawn shop in ohio in which I was the high bidder. probably didn't think I knew about that one...
<< <i>I saw that as well. Quite a payday for all involved. >>
Except for the person in NC who sold the set to him for a couple hundred bucks. >>
I would be curious to know more about the find. Apparently the ebay lister had limited knowledge concerning the card and the originally seller as well. Any idea how it was originally obtained?
<< <i>I have purchased a few items where I email the seller and see if they will turn it into a buy it now. >>
yes, like the carnation flair pack a few years back from the pawn shop in ohio in which I was the high bidder. probably didn't think I knew about that one... >>
All the details are in the Carnation thread. I was very excited about that score.
You are forgetting I got the entire set in sealed packs.
I mean no disrespect to dpeck, or anyone else, but asking a seller to turn an auction into a buy it now is low. It doesn't matter if you are paying market value, or more, you're pulling an item that was meant to run as an auction and ending the opportunity to for others to have their fair shot at it. It's dishonest and, IMO, is right at the level of shilling. If you want something for $x then put that in your snipe and move on...
I don't want to get in a debate about it as I know there are plenty of people who don't share this view, but I just wanted to say my take on it. I don't think anything less about members here who do this, just wish they didn't.
<< <i>I mean no disrespect to dpeck, or anyone else, but asking a seller to turn an auction into a buy it now is low. It doesn't matter if you are paying market value, or more, you're pulling an item that was meant to run as an auction and ending the opportunity to for others to have their fair shot at it. It's dishonest and, IMO, is right at the level of shilling. If you want something for $x then put that in your snipe and move on...
I don't want to get in a debate about it as I know there are plenty of people who don't share this view, but I just wanted to say my take on it. I don't think anything less about members here who do this, just wish they didn't. >>
Haha
Just like asking them to end an auction early and sell it off EBAY.
Turning it into a BIN allows for EBAY to get their fees.
would agree mullins, especially when bs stories are used to try to convince the sellers to end the auction...he was pretty pissed when I told him what the cards typically go for, he then proceeded to tell me the sob story he got. calling it "low" would be an improvement from what I think. spitting blatant lies? he then proceeded to sell me the remaining 8 packs at a below average price for actually dropping the correct knowledge on him.
<< <i>would agree mullins, especially when bs stories are used to try to convince the sellers to end the auction...he was pretty pissed when I told him what the cards typically go for, he then proceeded to tell me the sob story he got. calling it "low" would be an improvement from what I think. spitting blatant lies? he then proceeded to sell me the remaining 8 packs at a below average price for actually dropping the correct knowledge on him. >>
Typical pawn broker talking out of both sides of his mouth.
He bought the packs for a buck a piece so he was quite thrilled that he came to EBAY and realized they were not garbage like he thought they were.
ah, the auction was up to $150 at that point, so doubt that very seriously. glad you got the creased card pack though. as the other 8 helped me get that 1 spot in an honest fashion. twice! until that point, I was only interested in the flair card. funny, how the lord works in mysterious ways.
<< <i>I mean no disrespect to dpeck, or anyone else, but asking a seller to turn an auction into a buy it now is low. It doesn't matter if you are paying market value, or more, you're pulling an item that was meant to run as an auction and ending the opportunity to for others to have their fair shot at it. It's dishonest and, IMO, is right at the level of shilling. If you want something for $x then put that in your snipe and move on...
I don't want to get in a debate about it as I know there are plenty of people who don't share this view, but I just wanted to say my take on it. I don't think anything less about members here who do this, just wish they didn't. >>
To each his own but I don't see the big deal. I personally don't ask sellers to end auctions but as a seller it happens from time to time that people request it. No big deal. I usually ignore them but occasionally I accept and sell the item. Win-win! I can't imagine why you would consider it "low," "dishonest" or "shilling." I really don't see it. Ebay is a place for advertising stuff for sale. If Ebay didn't want it they wouldn't offer the BIN option.
<< <i>I mean no disrespect to dpeck, or anyone else, but asking a seller to turn an auction into a buy it now is low. It doesn't matter if you are paying market value, or more, you're pulling an item that was meant to run as an auction and ending the opportunity to for others to have their fair shot at it. It's dishonest and, IMO, is right at the level of shilling. If you want something for $x then put that in your snipe and move on... >>
Maybe you have different rules on your auction site, but on ebay one of those things is allowed, and the other is not (shilling). So, they're not on the same level, nor are they both dishonest. Ebay evens allows you to put a BIN on an item that can only be bought by ONE specific user.
I guess I've been on the low-end of a couple items over the years where someone ended an auction and relisted it for someone as a BIN. Not BIG $ items, but ones I'd been waiting for and don't come up often. Perhaps this is why I'm sour over the practice.
I do believe eBay is slapping people's wrists with fees for ending auctions with bids in order to keep this from continuing.
<< <i>I have purchased a few items where I email the seller and see if they will turn it into a buy it now. >>
yes, like the carnation flair pack a few years back from the pawn shop in ohio in which I was the high bidder. probably didn't think I knew about that one... >>
All the details are in the Carnation thread. I was very excited about that score.
You are forgetting I got the entire set in sealed packs. >>
All I know is that anyone who thinks that getting a profitable upgrade on a card bought from a dealer (a professional who does it for a living and should know what he's selling)... ...is the exact same thing as buying a card at 3% of its worth from an unknowledgeable non-collector widow...
...those folks have a moral compass that is in great need of recalibration.
The first red flag to the seller should have been multiple buyers asking about the card...I am glad the buyer waited to post his score until after he received it...
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<< <i>The first red flag to the seller should have been multiple buyers asking about the card...I am glad the buyer waited to post his score until after he received it... >>
...those folks have a moral compass that is in great need of recalibration.
Or they should consider a career in politics. If our "leaders" can't be trusted, what hope is there for the Average Joe (and I don't mean Joe the Plumber).
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<< <i>Did the card grade? >>
Looks like the pop report for that card is one higher, I'll let the OP make the announcement.
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<< <i>Did the card grade? >>
Looks like the pop report for that card is one higher, I'll let the OP make the announcement.
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Pop report
Only 13 graded so far. Pretty awesome a card this rare exists from the 80's.
There have been 41 of the blue graded too.
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<< <i>Did the card grade? >>
Looks like the pop report for that card is one higher, I'll let the OP make the announcement.
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Pop report
Only 13 graded so far. Pretty awesome a card this rare exists from the 80's.
There have been 41 of the blue graded too. >>
There's 13 + 2 with qualifiers and one with a .5 for 16 total. I thought this card would grade higher but it still 7k-9k card. Nice
This is the issue with the card market.
It happens every day and all day on EBAY.
In this case the buyer had more information and most on this board work hard to try and be on that side of the deal.
I know I do.
My only complaint is that he took a "chance" but not really. He wanted to make sure it was real and he could get his money back if it was not graded by PSA.
In my opinion, that's not a chance. That's trying to find a guarantee.
If it was fake that should have been on the buyer as well as the 10k profit when it comes back legit.
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<< <i>Did the card grade? >>
Looks like the pop report for that card is one higher, I'll let the OP make the announcement.
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Pop report
Only 13 graded so far. Pretty awesome a card this rare exists from the 80's.
There have been 41 of the blue graded too. >>
There's 13 + 2 with qualifiers and one with a .5 for 16 total. I thought this card would grade higher but it still 7k-9k card. Nice
Oops. I still have to get used to this new layout. I liked looking at one total.
I've already got a safe deposit box for it and will put it away for a long time.
<< <i>Yes the card did grade real. A 3.5
I've already got a safe deposit box for it and will put it away for a long time. >>
Congratulations!
If you have kids this is the type of card to hand down to the next generation.
<< <i>Yes the card did grade real. A 3.5
I've already got a safe deposit box for it and will put it away for a long time. >>
Review it to a 4?
I mean come on you did buy it for $2. It doesn't seem fair to mark it up this much.
Oh I forgot there is something called the free market and that is what drives the value.
If this card has been owned for a long time I would imagine she made a profit too. She lost at the time of sale but won vs. her cost basis.
<< <i>Yes the card did grade real. A 3.5
I've already got a safe deposit box for it and will put it away for a long time. >>
Congrats on the sub. Enjoy your holy grail
<< <i> (If it's real I may give her a little more money as it sounds like she might need it). >>
Wondering if you plan on following through on your thought
What's funny is that since you aren't selling the card right away (if ever)...you have effectively taken away all the pitch forks and torches that apparently were lit for you. haha.
So now that you've secured this card....what's next?
The discussion, for me, is not about what the value of the card is once graded vs the price purchased but rather what the value of the raw card was prior to grading. I am not an expert on this card but my understanding is that raw the card sells for thousands of dollars. Your examples all miss the mark because they are simply not valid comparisons. However it seems clear that you don't seem to get that.
Robb
<< <i>Lots of illogical analogies in this thread. >>
Totally agree. I am glad someone else sees that. Nice discussion but a lot of it didn't add up for me.
Changing subjects... I would sell that card in a split second. Forget the safe deposit box. Why put it there? See it once a year? Heck no. Sell it.
<< <i>Dpeck,
The discussion, for me, is not about what the value of the card is once graded vs the price purchased but rather what the value of the raw card was prior to grading. I am not an expert on this card but my understanding is that raw the card sells for thousands of dollars. Your examples all miss the mark because they are simply not valid comparisons. However it seems clear that you don't seem to get that.
Robb >>
Your right I don't get that.
I see no difference. The enhancement of value that grading creates is just the same to me. When someone sees a raw blazer they are thinking the same thing. Score.
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<< <i> (If it's real I may give her a little more money as it sounds like she might need it). >>
Wondering if you plan on following through on your thought >>
As for following through with what I said. Yes I do plan to, I am a man of my word. What a choose to do is between me and her.
And as for keeping or selling the card, I am a big collector of cal and I want to keep this card. I'll put it away and with the rarity of the card it think in 20-30 years the value will be more then what it is today. I believe the investment could be better then the stock market.
Thank you to the people that congratulated me.
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<< <i> (If it's real I may give her a little more money as it sounds like she might need it). >>
Wondering if you plan on following through on your thought >>
As for following through with what I said. Yes I do plan to, I am a man of my word. What a choose to do is between me and her.
And as for keeping or selling the card, I am a big collector of cal and I want to keep this card. I'll put it away and with the rarity of the card it think in 20-30 years the value will be more then what it is today. I believe the investment could be better then the stock market.
Thank you to the people that congratulated me. >>
Everyone congratulated you.
I'll say it again: Congratulations!
I was once a HUGE PSA Registry collector of Mike Bossy (Islanders hockey) and there was a time when his OPC RC in PSA 10 would bring (I'm guessing) $5k (maybe someone can chime in with some real numbers there). As much as I love Bossy and Registry competing, I would have sold that card in a heartbeat is I ever got one. I think you should consider selling it, too.
You never know when the market can crash on a card. I remember when I found over 100 Gretzky 1981 OPC stickers at a baseball card shop. That single find hurt the market for that, once, tough to find card.
Sell. Buy yourself something nice. Pickup some other nice Ripkens. If you have a significant other, maybe get her/him something nice, too. Rent a late movie. Snuggle under a warm quilt and sip hot cocoa together. But don't forget to occasionally stick your feet out and feel the cold.
A raw card is just that - and has a lower value for good reasons. The OP wasn't even sure the card was real at the time of purchase.
If you want more money, as a seller you should do the work of getting a card graded.
Another interesting thing is all the watchers who didn't bid at $99 and were hoping to get a low snipe.
I'm willing to bet they are the ones who contacted the seller after it sold.
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<< <i>Here is the first listing that was ended at 10:17
Auction
Within 12 minutes it is sold as a BIN.
BIN
Feedback
TERRIFIC BUYER! Buyer: a***1 (Purple star icon for feedback score in between 500 to 999) During past month
1980 Charlotte O's Orioles Cal Ripken Orange border Police card (#251677614600) -- View Item
Prior listing
A simple quick look at completed auctions or a Google search would have returned this card.
A few years ago a seller listed a 1986 Carnation Pack sealed with the Road Warriors and Rick Martel in it that had a similar array of items minus the "throngs". I emailed the seller and asked if they would end it early and take $25. They said they were a pawn shop and it had come in and just wanted to let it run. I put in my max bid of $150 just in case and won it for $16. Had they taken my low ball offer they would have come out ahead.
This seller could have easily looked at completed listings and saw that a card prior had been listed for a large sum and simply said let me just let the market decide the price. They chose not to and the item was paid for and feedback was left.
A few months back a William McKinley 1932 American Presidents card sold for $9.99 on EBAY. Unfortunately these things happen. >>
The McKinley deal never went through...the seller never sent it out and backed out of the deal. In fact, it was recently graded and listed in the most recent REA auction (Lot 15 currently up to $80000). >>
I just read on my Facebook page that they went in on it together and consigned it to REA like you state. When an item is listed on EBAY I would think that a nasty legal battle could take place if the seller had completely backed out. On a few hundred dollar card this obviously isn't worth pursuing but on a $96,000 card it would be.
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<< <i>Here is the first listing that was ended at 10:17
Auction
Within 12 minutes it is sold as a BIN.
BIN
Feedback
TERRIFIC BUYER! Buyer: a***1 (Purple star icon for feedback score in between 500 to 999) During past month
1980 Charlotte O's Orioles Cal Ripken Orange border Police card (#251677614600) -- View Item
Prior listing
A simple quick look at completed auctions or a Google search would have returned this card. >>
That's awesome timing by the op. Right place and right time I guess. I wonder what the guy that asked for the $300 BIN was thinking. Why wasn't he sitting on his computer like the little old lady and the OP were!? I would have been! Crazy world!
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<< <i>Here is the first listing that was ended at 10:17
Auction
Within 12 minutes it is sold as a BIN.
BIN
Feedback
TERRIFIC BUYER! Buyer: a***1 (Purple star icon for feedback score in between 500 to 999) During past month
1980 Charlotte O's Orioles Cal Ripken Orange border Police card (#251677614600) -- View Item
Prior listing
A simple quick look at completed auctions or a Google search would have returned this card.
A few years ago a seller listed a 1986 Carnation Pack sealed with the Road Warriors and Rick Martel in it that had a similar array of items minus the "throngs". I emailed the seller and asked if they would end it early and take $25. They said they were a pawn shop and it had come in and just wanted to let it run. I put in my max bid of $150 just in case and won it for $16. Had they taken my low ball offer they would have come out ahead.
This seller could have easily looked at completed listings and saw that a card prior had been listed for a large sum and simply said let me just let the market decide the price. They chose not to and the item was paid for and feedback was left.
A few months back a William McKinley 1932 American Presidents card sold for $9.99 on EBAY. Unfortunately these things happen. >>
The McKinley deal never went through...the seller never sent it out and backed out of the deal. In fact, it was recently graded and listed in the most recent REA auction (Lot 15 currently up to $80000). >>
I just read on my Facebook page that they went in on it together and consigned it to REA like you state. When an item is listed on EBAY I would think that a nasty legal battle could take place if the seller had completely backed out. On a few hundred dollar card this obviously isn't worth pursuing but on a $96,000 card it would be. >>
I saw that as well. Quite a payday for all involved.
<< <i>I saw that as well. Quite a payday for all involved. >>
Except for the person in NC who sold the set to him for a couple hundred bucks.
<< <i>I have purchased a few items where I email the seller and see if they will turn it into a buy it now. >>
yes, like the carnation flair pack a few years back from the pawn shop in ohio in which I was the high bidder. probably didn't think I knew about that one...
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<< <i>I saw that as well. Quite a payday for all involved. >>
Except for the person in NC who sold the set to him for a couple hundred bucks. >>
I would be curious to know more about the find. Apparently the ebay lister had limited knowledge concerning the card and the originally seller as well. Any idea how it was originally obtained?
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<< <i>I have purchased a few items where I email the seller and see if they will turn it into a buy it now. >>
yes, like the carnation flair pack a few years back from the pawn shop in ohio in which I was the high bidder. probably didn't think I knew about that one... >>
All the details are in the Carnation thread. I was very excited about that score.
You are forgetting I got the entire set in sealed packs.
Always fun to watch
I don't want to get in a debate about it as I know there are plenty of people who don't share this view, but I just wanted to say my take on it. I don't think anything less about members here who do this, just wish they didn't.
<< <i>I mean no disrespect to dpeck, or anyone else, but asking a seller to turn an auction into a buy it now is low. It doesn't matter if you are paying market value, or more, you're pulling an item that was meant to run as an auction and ending the opportunity to for others to have their fair shot at it. It's dishonest and, IMO, is right at the level of shilling. If you want something for $x then put that in your snipe and move on...
I don't want to get in a debate about it as I know there are plenty of people who don't share this view, but I just wanted to say my take on it. I don't think anything less about members here who do this, just wish they didn't. >>
Haha
Just like asking them to end an auction early and sell it off EBAY.
Turning it into a BIN allows for EBAY to get their fees.
<< <i>would agree mullins, especially when bs stories are used to try to convince the sellers to end the auction...he was pretty pissed when I told him what the cards typically go for, he then proceeded to tell me the sob story he got. calling it "low" would be an improvement from what I think. spitting blatant lies? he then proceeded to sell me the remaining 8 packs at a below average price for actually dropping the correct knowledge on him. >>
Typical pawn broker talking out of both sides of his mouth.
He bought the packs for a buck a piece so he was quite thrilled that he came to EBAY and realized they were not garbage like he thought they were.
<< <i>I mean no disrespect to dpeck, or anyone else, but asking a seller to turn an auction into a buy it now is low. It doesn't matter if you are paying market value, or more, you're pulling an item that was meant to run as an auction and ending the opportunity to for others to have their fair shot at it. It's dishonest and, IMO, is right at the level of shilling. If you want something for $x then put that in your snipe and move on...
I don't want to get in a debate about it as I know there are plenty of people who don't share this view, but I just wanted to say my take on it. I don't think anything less about members here who do this, just wish they didn't. >>
To each his own but I don't see the big deal. I personally don't ask sellers to end auctions but as a seller it happens from time to time that people request it. No big deal. I usually ignore them but occasionally I accept and sell the item. Win-win! I can't imagine why you would consider it "low," "dishonest" or "shilling." I really don't see it. Ebay is a place for advertising stuff for sale. If Ebay didn't want it they wouldn't offer the BIN option.
<< <i>I mean no disrespect to dpeck, or anyone else, but asking a seller to turn an auction into a buy it now is low. It doesn't matter if you are paying market value, or more, you're pulling an item that was meant to run as an auction and ending the opportunity to for others to have their fair shot at it. It's dishonest and, IMO, is right at the level of shilling. If you want something for $x then put that in your snipe and move on...
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Maybe you have different rules on your auction site, but on ebay one of those things is allowed, and the other is not (shilling). So, they're not on the same level, nor are they both dishonest. Ebay evens allows you to put a BIN on an item that can only be bought by ONE specific user.
I do believe eBay is slapping people's wrists with fees for ending auctions with bids in order to keep this from continuing.
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<< <i>I have purchased a few items where I email the seller and see if they will turn it into a buy it now. >>
yes, like the carnation flair pack a few years back from the pawn shop in ohio in which I was the high bidder. probably didn't think I knew about that one... >>
All the details are in the Carnation thread. I was very excited about that score.
You are forgetting I got the entire set in sealed packs. >>
The good news is they were just wrestling cards.
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<< <i> (If it's real I may give her a little more money as it sounds like she might need it). >>
Wondering if you plan on following through on your thought >>
As for following through with what I said. Yes I do plan to, I am a man of my word. What a choose to do is between me and her.
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Although you are under no obligation to do so, that is commendable.
1. Very nice score. Seller sold it for an agreed-upon price. You owe no apologies to anyone.
2. Keep or sell, that's entirely up to you.
Happy collecting!
...is the exact same thing as buying a card at 3% of its worth from an unknowledgeable non-collector widow...
...those folks have a moral compass that is in great need of recalibration.
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<< <i>The first red flag to the seller should have been multiple buyers asking about the card...I am glad the buyer waited to post his score until after he received it... >>
+1. Nothing more to add. Interesting thread.
Or they should consider a career in politics. If our "leaders" can't be trusted, what hope is there for the Average Joe (and I don't mean Joe the Plumber).