Wow, that small blackhead turned into a large black pimple inside of a PCGS holder? I thought the holders were supposed to be much better for longer-term protection on these sort of things? is it common to have these types of problems?
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
So what's the best thing to do in these circumstances? (always in favor of best custodialship on the coin's behalf)... crack out and fix? gently remove foreign object causing the excessive toning then redip? send to NCS or PC equivalent?
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Jeff, David Lawrence currently has at auction an 1898-S in AU-58. It also has a spot that I now wonder about... especially after seeing what has happened to your coin.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Darrell - Have you ever heard of anyone who's seen a micro S? Also, hope you'll be in Spartanburg this week, had vehicle issues and couldn't get to Charlotte.
Pics for this AM, from my raw collection:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
I thought I had a 92 micro S half at one time but no one seemed to be of a mind to chime in on whether it had any significance.
I'd retrieve the images out of Photo Bucket but that is such an uncontrollable phishing swamp, I can no longer even log on without being swept off to a dozen different websites in the first 3 seconds.
Anyhow, the mint mark was a tiny S.
My bad for not caring enough to keep it.
We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
Dogwood... I had the same feeling about my PCGS 1898-O Micro O - it was a XF 45 -
and although I knew it wasn't the exact same size of the Imfamous 92-O Micro O,
it was distinctively smaller than the normal O .... Everyone who looked at it kept
saying it wasn't a Micro O. Then again, what do they know ? Never seeing an 1898-O
Micro O, every one thinks the same size as the 92-O ... As I said...what do they know.
I did keep the Revier 1898-O Micro O ( non attributed by NGC ) that was on Mark Saltzman's
desk for six months - and no determination was made because they had never seen a 98-O
Micro O so - they were relying on the supposition that it was not a Micro O because it didn't
match exactly the size of the 1892-O Micro O.
Too bad you didn't keep images of the 92-Micro S Half.
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Just a head's up...while browsing eBay this evening - I came across a beautiful 1895-S Quarter in PCGS 58 offered by The Reeded Edge. [ un CAC'd ] and its listed for $695 if memory serves me correctly ! { Which is $400 less than what I paid Dave Kahn in 2015.} Its worth looking at - in case anyone needs that date & MM.
Edited to show the correct date being sold . I originally said it was an 1895-O, a typo.
Thanks for pointing it out, Vern.
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@MFH said:
Just a head's up...while browsing eBay this evening - I came across a beautiful 1895-S Quarter in PCGS 58 offered by The Reeded Edge. [ un CAC'd ] and its listed for $695 if memory serves me correctly ! { Which is $400 less than what I paid Dave Kahn in 2015.} Its worth looking at - in case anyone needs that date & MM.
Edited to show the correct date being sold . I originally said it was an 1895-O, a typo.
Thanks for pointing it out, Vern.
Mike, Vern, Went out to take a look at that '95-S. From their pic, it looks like there could be a bit of repunching on the MM but it is hard to see when zooming in on their pic. In the Feigenbaum text on Barber Quarters, it doesn't seem it matches up with No. 101 or 102 S/S however.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@MFH said:
Just a head's up...while browsing eBay this evening - I came across a beautiful 1895-S Quarter in PCGS 58 offered by The Reeded Edge. [ un CAC'd ] and its listed for $695 if memory serves me correctly ! { Which is $400 less than what I paid Dave Kahn in 2015.} Its worth looking at - in case anyone needs that date & MM.
Edited to show the correct date being sold . I originally said it was an 1895-O, a typo.
Thanks for pointing it out, Vern.
Mike, Vern, Went out to take a look at that '95-S. From their pic, it looks like there could be a bit of repunching on the MM but it is hard to see when zooming in on their pic. In the Feigenbaum text on Barber Quarters, it doesn't seem it matches up with No. 101 or 102 S/S however.
I saw this quarter a few days ago. I'm gna go see it in hand SAT if noone buys it. It looks to be a nice coin.
Nothing new to report ... I was the underbidder on a 1903-S Dime
PCGS 58 CAC... at the Heritage Auction last night. C'est la vie.
I spotted a couple of nice V Nickels - although I am high bidder at the
moment, I expect someone will see the beauty of these two coins &
again, out bid me. I'm staying put with my bids and refuse to chase
anything.
Not to worry, Jeff. You didn't kill this Thread.
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Jeff ("I think I killed the thread.....") and Mike, I know you Florida guys might not fully understand this but up north here we have 60+ degree weather. It is really nice to get outside right now while the temperature is warm. You take it when you can get it!
A couple more nicely circulated dimes...
1901-O
1911-D
1913-P
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A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Enjoyed a good discussion with Darrell at Spartanburg Friday. Still one of the best things about numismatics IMO, is the conversations with fellow collectors (or in Darrell's case, collector/dealers).
Jeff - That's a good looking 61. Doesn't look like any big issues, so I wonder why it's not a 62. It seems to me there ought to be some big issue for a coin to garner a 60-61 grade.
Mike - Good luck on your V nickel bids.
Tim - Good looking original dimes.
Pics for this AM, a 61 in my collection whose grade I don't understand:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Thanks, Verne, I was fortunate to win my bids on two Proof V Nickels
and these were some of the only CAC approved ones being sold in the
Internet Only part of the Heritage auction:
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Nice pickup on those nickels; great looking coins!
I received a raw submission back from PCGS last week. Most of them were Barber Dimes, but I had a couple of Quarters as well. Here's an '05 S Dime, PC XF 45:
I've been looking for a nice raw (AU) '05 S for a long time. I picked up this one until I can find the right one. For me it's more fun looking for nice raw ones than purchasing one in plastic, but with these common dimes its a money loosing proposition. Oh well.
Jumping on the '95-S dime bandwagon, here is my offering... although not nearly as nice as Jeff's:
Vern and Darrell, Glad to see you were able to get together this past weekend. Vern, the '03-S quarter is all day 63 to me per the picture... unless you see further minute surface scratches that is not picked up by the camera for that picture.
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A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Nice pickup on those nickels; great looking coins!
I received a raw submission back from PCGS last week. Most of them were Barber Dimes, but I had a couple of Quarters as well. Here's an '05 S Dime, PC XF 45:
I've been looking for a nice raw (AU) '05 S for a long time. I picked up this one until I can find the right one. For me it's more fun looking for nice raw ones than purchasing one in plastic, but with these common dimes its a money loosing proposition. Oh well.
Looking at your STATES "E" makes me think you were a little too cautious in your assessed concern! IMO, whether that was a light mark on the "E" or in the field, it would very likely pass. The mark may seem "augmented" to the viewer of the digital image you have because of the awesome pictures you take... but I would not be so hard on your assessment. That '05-S is really nice Jeff. '08-P is nice as well!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Jeff, What do you think that blue stuff is? on the reverse? not usual to see something like that showing in your picture in the recessed areas. A couple of very small obverse spots too.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@sedulous said:
Jeff, What do you think that blue stuff is? on the reverse? not usual to see something like that showing in your picture in the recessed areas. A couple of very small obverse spots too.
It's all toning. There are some very colorful areas on the reverse; 64 crayola variety. There in no gunk on it. The obverse spots are toning in a bluish/ green tone- they've been there a while. The question is will they bloom? I don't think so.
The coin very well could have been net graded for inconsistant toning.
As much as I simply love Jeff's '04-O quarter currently in his Everyman set, I figured nothing might come close to it until I saw this PC40. IMO, just under the quality of Jeff's but close! in my estimation:
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Dogwood-
You are correct. Both the hair on the forhead and behind the ear look re-engraved. Perhaps it's a fake? Or maybe a legit die was re-engraved before the coin was struck?
Dennis...That's a post mint coiffure. Amazed it ever happened.
Jeff....Another sweet Dime.....
Tim... Nice pleasing 1904-O Quarter.
My latest CAC results are the 1889 V Nickel in MS 66 - DNP
...the 1896 "V" Nickel in PR 65 CAM - also did not pass.... The 1916 Dime
with the True View I posted awhile back ( minor lamination across
ONE & DIME ) did not pass either.
The 1902 V Nickel in 58, the 1898 and 1899 Dimes in AU 58 - ( all recent purchases ) -
all three passed at CAC .... They are being delivered today.
If anyone spots an 1889 V Nickel in a PCGS 58 holder for sale, I'd be very grateful
for a heads up.... I can't register my AU 58 O/C in my Everyman's Set. It's the last
AU 58 needed to complete the set. Thanks in advance !!
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Comments
Wow, that small blackhead turned into a large black pimple inside of a PCGS holder? I thought the holders were supposed to be much better for longer-term protection on these sort of things? is it common to have these types of problems?
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I'm guessing the coin had been dipped and retained before I bought it. Once that tarnish is there it will come back. The holder won't stop it.
So what's the best thing to do in these circumstances? (always in favor of best custodialship on the coin's behalf)... crack out and fix? gently remove foreign object causing the excessive toning then redip? send to NCS or PC equivalent?
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Jeff, David Lawrence currently has at auction an 1898-S in AU-58. It also has a spot that I now wonder about... especially after seeing what has happened to your coin.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Tim - Interesting info about those MM positions.
Mike - I've never seen, or heard from anyone who's seen, a 92-S, micro S either.
Jeff - That's a pretty dramatic growth in only 3 years.
Pics for this AM, beauty from Paesan's Stash, PC64:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Jeff, I'm not really a variety nut. I have kept a few. I have all the majors in AU except the micro O.
Vern, Thanks for sharing the Paes' '98 in 64. Beautiful coin!
Darrell, If you have that '92-S in micro S, please share so we can see a pic.
Jeff, on the toning spot... sorry that has happened to your otherwise beautiful coin.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
LOL!
I was referring to those PCGS recognizes!
Darrell - Have you ever heard of anyone who's seen a micro S? Also, hope you'll be in Spartanburg this week, had vehicle issues and couldn't get to Charlotte.
Pics for this AM, from my raw collection:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
I thought I had a 92 micro S half at one time but no one seemed to be of a mind to chime in on whether it had any significance.
I'd retrieve the images out of Photo Bucket but that is such an uncontrollable phishing swamp, I can no longer even log on without being swept off to a dozen different websites in the first 3 seconds.
Anyhow, the mint mark was a tiny S.
My bad for not caring enough to keep it.
Dogwood... I had the same feeling about my PCGS 1898-O Micro O - it was a XF 45 -
and although I knew it wasn't the exact same size of the Imfamous 92-O Micro O,
it was distinctively smaller than the normal O .... Everyone who looked at it kept
saying it wasn't a Micro O. Then again, what do they know ? Never seeing an 1898-O
Micro O, every one thinks the same size as the 92-O ... As I said...what do they know.
I did keep the Revier 1898-O Micro O ( non attributed by NGC ) that was on Mark Saltzman's
desk for six months - and no determination was made because they had never seen a 98-O
Micro O so - they were relying on the supposition that it was not a Micro O because it didn't
match exactly the size of the 1892-O Micro O.
Too bad you didn't keep images of the 92-Micro S Half.
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I would chime in on the Micro discussion but have nothing to add.
Verne...Look forward to seeing you in Spartanburg!
Win a PCGS VF20 you guys! Can you grade like PCGS?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/976182/grade-these-20-barber-halfs-and-win-a-pcgs-vf-barber-half#latest
Dennis - So at least one is out there, in all likelihood. Interesting.
Mike - Why would it take 6 months? Either it's a small 'o' like on a dime, or it isn't. Someone with fancy tools ought to be able to measure it.
Darrell - I'll have to get my good glasses on for your grading challenge.
Pics for this AM, more from my raw set:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Just a head's up...while browsing eBay this evening - I came across a beautiful 1895-S Quarter in PCGS 58 offered by The Reeded Edge. [ un CAC'd ] and its listed for $695 if memory serves me correctly ! { Which is $400 less than what I paid Dave Kahn in 2015.} Its worth looking at - in case anyone needs that date & MM.
Edited to show the correct date being sold . I originally said it was an 1895-O, a typo.
Thanks for pointing it out, Vern.
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Mike - It's a 95-S they have in 58 at $695. I'm thinking there's a little difference in quality that has something to do with the price differential.
Pics for this AM, I've never had a 95-S in 58. This one is PC63
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Mike, Vern, Went out to take a look at that '95-S. From their pic, it looks like there could be a bit of repunching on the MM but it is hard to see when zooming in on their pic. In the Feigenbaum text on Barber Quarters, it doesn't seem it matches up with No. 101 or 102 S/S however.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I saw this quarter a few days ago. I'm gna go see it in hand SAT if noone buys it. It looks to be a nice coin.
Hoard the keys
Mark - Hope you get to see it in hand, so we will know about the RPM. The 63 I posted yesterday is an RPM.
Pics for this AM, from my raw set:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Vern, the '09 - '11 quarters are some really nice and wholesome specimens. Nice quality for the grade!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Here's another Barber Half I purchased raw thinking it was AU but ended up in a MS holder:
A bit dark, but not too bad. OK it's dark.......
I think I killed the thread.....
Nothing new to report ... I was the underbidder on a 1903-S Dime
PCGS 58 CAC... at the Heritage Auction last night. C'est la vie.
I spotted a couple of nice V Nickels - although I am high bidder at the
moment, I expect someone will see the beauty of these two coins &
again, out bid me. I'm staying put with my bids and refuse to chase
anything.
Not to worry, Jeff. You didn't kill this Thread.
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Jeff ("I think I killed the thread.....") and Mike, I know you Florida guys might not fully understand this but up north here we have 60+ degree weather. It is really nice to get outside right now while the temperature is warm. You take it when you can get it!
A couple more nicely circulated dimes...
1901-O
1911-D
1913-P
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Enjoyed a good discussion with Darrell at Spartanburg Friday. Still one of the best things about numismatics IMO, is the conversations with fellow collectors (or in Darrell's case, collector/dealers).
Jeff - That's a good looking 61. Doesn't look like any big issues, so I wonder why it's not a 62. It seems to me there ought to be some big issue for a coin to garner a 60-61 grade.
Mike - Good luck on your V nickel bids.
Tim - Good looking original dimes.
Pics for this AM, a 61 in my collection whose grade I don't understand:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Thanks, Verne, I was fortunate to win my bids on two Proof V Nickels
and these were some of the only CAC approved ones being sold in the
Internet Only part of the Heritage auction:
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New Barber Purchases
Verne,as always it was great seeing you and chatting again!
Mike-
Nice pickup on those nickels; great looking coins!
I received a raw submission back from PCGS last week. Most of them were Barber Dimes, but I had a couple of Quarters as well. Here's an '05 S Dime, PC XF 45:
I've been looking for a nice raw (AU) '05 S for a long time. I picked up this one until I can find the right one. For me it's more fun looking for nice raw ones than purchasing one in plastic, but with these common dimes its a money loosing proposition. Oh well.
Wow, handsome '05-S Jeff
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Jumping on the '95-S dime bandwagon, here is my offering... although not nearly as nice as Jeff's:
Vern and Darrell, Glad to see you were able to get together this past weekend. Vern, the '03-S quarter is all day 63 to me per the picture... unless you see further minute surface scratches that is not picked up by the camera for that picture.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Mike - Congrats on the 2 new proof V Nicks.
Jeff - If the 05-S dime is anything like the 05-S qtr, it'll be a long time before you find a better one than this one. Nice raw pick up.
Pics for this AM, more from my raw set:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
This 1905-S Barber dime is_ gorgeous!_
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
I was a little afraid that my '05 S Dime might get bagged for the damage on the "E" in "States". They decided to let this one pass.......
Here's another Barber Dime from my recent submission. Another raw find, a 1908 now in a PC AU 55 holder:
It's a common date, but I've had difficulty finding a nice raw one of these as well.
The coin is an EF and it has a circulation mark, why would someone think it might get bagged? Circulation marks should be on circulated coins!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Looking at your STATES "E" makes me think you were a little too cautious in your assessed concern! IMO, whether that was a light mark on the "E" or in the field, it would very likely pass. The mark may seem "augmented" to the viewer of the digital image you have because of the awesome pictures you take... but I would not be so hard on your assessment. That '05-S is really nice Jeff. '08-P is nice as well!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I've had bad luck......
I have a couple of 1905-S Dimes - "The Heir and The Spare" Collection:
Courtesy of Americana Rare Coins - Glenn & Steve:
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You got what I want, but I'm sorta patient.....
Here's another one of my recently graded dimes, a raw pickup 1899 S that returnded in a PC AU 50 holder:
I thought this would come back in a 53 to 55 holder, but for whatever reasons our hosts didn't like it as much as I did.
Jeff, What do you think that blue stuff is? on the reverse? not usual to see something like that showing in your picture in the recessed areas. A couple of very small obverse spots too.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Jeff - Perhaps our hosts net graded your 99-S due to the stuff on the reverse.
Pics for this AM, more from my raw set:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Vern, that '13-D is essentially a perfect for the grade VF. Wow.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
It's all toning. There are some very colorful areas on the reverse; 64 crayola variety. There in no gunk on it. The obverse spots are toning in a bluish/ green tone- they've been there a while. The question is will they bloom? I don't think so.
The coin very well could have been net graded for inconsistant toning.
Here's another one of my raw finds; this 1901 came back in a PC AU 58 holder:
Perhaps a little too much color on this one, but I like it.
Jeff...nice pick up !!
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
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As much as I simply love Jeff's '04-O quarter currently in his Everyman set, I figured nothing might come close to it until I saw this PC40. IMO, just under the quality of Jeff's but close! in my estimation:
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I'm stumped studying an 04s half on eBay, AU details cleaned PCGS. Offered by a good seller. Cert checks out. But the hair looks re-engraved, but only it doesn't look like a butchery, so much as just wrong. But tho overall the coin is hammered, there's no way it's a base perfect state hair that I'm just not used to seeing. Even proofs wave a different contour. Did PCGS miss something?Check it out, it's.....interesting.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/AU-Details-1904-S-Barber-Silver-Half-Dollar-Graded-PCGS-805-/361910668573?hash=item54438e8d1d:g:5z8AAOSwx6pYrLo4&_trkparms=pageci%3A5041bc81-f8d0-11e6-9cca-00505697408f%7Cparentrq%3A64b76acc15a0a622961feaedfff02980%7Ciid%3A3
Dogwood-
You are correct. Both the hair on the forhead and behind the ear look re-engraved. Perhaps it's a fake? Or maybe a legit die was re-engraved before the coin was struck?
Tim- A great looking '04 O Quarter; a raw find?
Here's another one of my raw dime pickups that returned from PCGS in an AU 58 holder:
A very common date, but it upgrades my AU 55 in the Everyman set.
Dennis...That's a post mint coiffure. Amazed it ever happened.
Jeff....Another sweet Dime.....
Tim... Nice pleasing 1904-O Quarter.
My latest CAC results are the 1889 V Nickel in MS 66 - DNP
...the 1896 "V" Nickel in PR 65 CAM - also did not pass.... The 1916 Dime
with the True View I posted awhile back ( minor lamination across
ONE & DIME ) did not pass either.
The 1902 V Nickel in 58, the 1898 and 1899 Dimes in AU 58 - ( all recent purchases ) -
all three passed at CAC .... They are being delivered today.
If anyone spots an 1889 V Nickel in a PCGS 58 holder for sale, I'd be very grateful
for a heads up.... I can't register my AU 58 O/C in my Everyman's Set. It's the last
AU 58 needed to complete the set. Thanks in advance !!
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Dennis, hobo half - a crying shame
Jeff, the '04-O PC40 was already in holder
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.