Just welcomed this 58-D into the set. Budget is low for the 1.00 weighted slots so not my finest, but it's got a CAC sticker and this timely halloween orange look to it. MS66
I may have shared this in the past, but am not certain when, so please forgive me if it is dull. The 1932 issues are interesting in that most aren't found with substantial colorful toning. In my experience, they are either a cream-based color or have burnt caramel shades to them. Not so with this coin-
@TomB said:
I may have shared this in the past, but am not certain when, so please forgive me if it is dull. The 1932 issues are interesting in that most aren't found with substantial colorful toning. In my experience, they are either a cream-based color or have burnt caramel shades to them. Not so with this coin-
Sent off a batch of coins to PCGS for reholdering and photography, and the TrueViews posted this past week. Here are the WashQs that were part of that group. It's always interesting to see how the TVs capture the coin. Some of these (the 65s esp) were cheap and casual coin show pickups before I started working seriously on a full set of toners.
In this week from last Sunday's GreatCollections auction. Coin has great overall luster in-hand and the reverse is very attractive, which makes up for the somewhat scratchy, less interesting obverse. MS66
@davewesen said:
I am really surprised this is only a 65
Yeah, if I thought it would have been a 65 coin, I wouldn't have sent it in. That was a disappointment. I conferred with others prior to the '51-S PC submission to get additional opinions so the return was not expected. My thinking was the '51-S and '53-S were at least 66's. My '52-S was held back because I am sure it is a 65 or less. Jason @erwindoc has been a good mentor in response to a few questions I have had. My '39-P is also close but not a good submission candidate either due to the reverse wing scratch. I have a DANSCO set without keys but also additional singles I am looking through for candidates:
1939-P
1952-S
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A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@Whitewashqtr said:
I am so confused. I sent this in raw as a 1952-S/S and it only came back as a 1952-S. The grade was as expected MS-65 but WTF. Can someone please tell me what I am missing? Is this not clearly an S/S coin? So frustrating!
@Whitewashqtr said:
I am so confused. I sent this in raw as a 1952-S/S and it only came back as a 1952-S. The grade was as expected MS-65 but WTF. Can someone please tell me what I am missing? Is this not clearly an S/S coin? So frustrating!
Thanks
You have to mark "variety attribution" on the form and pay the extra money or they wont do it...
I already received it back. They are such a pain. I really hate dealing with them. I sent them in in a PCGS box and forgot to put a note that I wanted the box back. I called them the day they received my order and they told me, "too bad, we cant find it and wont replace it". Plus, I was really unhappy with the grades I received.
Here are all the raw coins I sent in.
1939-S MS 66
1952 MS 67
1943 DDO FS-102 - MS 66
This was sitting in an NGC holder and not attributed so this was a good find.
Filled out the online submission form. No handwritten info of any kind. Box is clearly checked. But them charging me $9 for variety attribution. Here is a screen shot for that part of the form.
@Whitewashqtr said:
Filled out the online submission form. No handwritten info of any kind. Box is clearly checked. But them charging me $9 for variety attribution. Here is a screen shot for that part of the form.
It seems you have a case to call them for a resolution and seek restitution from what you are stating.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@davewesen You have a good point. It could be that @Whitewashqtr has a variety, yes, but it does not match exactly the one recognized by PCGS. I have a similar issue with a 1907-S Barber Quarter that has two, very clear, RPM's but only one is recognized by PCGS. This means the submitter has to do some homework to be sure their variety directly matches the one recognized. The RPM might be very obvious but if it is not in Fivaz Cherrypickers, and PCGS does not have a ready-made designation, it won't get a variety label. Good point you make.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Good point Davewesen and thanks for interpreting that Sedulous. That actually makes sense that if they don't recognize it, then they can't attribute it. But it is clear and Kaleidoscope make a good point as well, it should be recognized. Clear as day. Maybe I have a one of a kind variety....lol.
Strike and luster appear better on the top. It does appear to have a hit at the top of the hairline in the toning and a hit on the eagle. Really tough, but I think the top is the 68.
Prior to the advent of the TPGs, I would much rather own the top coin rather than the bottom coin. However, with the value assigned to a TPG grade, I would prefer to own the MS68, whichever it might be.
You guys are pretty good. 3 for the top and 1 for the bottom - TomB is buying the holder either way...lol. The tops win!! The top is the 68 and the bottom is the 67+
I think the top has a slightly better strike especially in the hair and in the wings on the reverse.
FYI - the luster AND color on the 67+ are really nice, I've seen it in person. I have not seen the 68 in person.
The ‘53 on the top is the nicer coin IMO, but 68 seems generous given the quantity of hits on both sides, although I admit I’ve looked at very few 68s. I punched the cert# into the CAC lookup and it does not have a sticker.
Prior to the advent of the TPGs, I would much rather own the top coin rather than the bottom coin. However, with the value assigned to a TPG grade, I would prefer to own the MS68, whichever it might be.
Or just own both then you don't have to choose. LOL
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
As a type collector, there are many series where I am completely out of my element when it comes to grading…and this is one of them! Any thoughts, based on these PCGS photos, as to whether this 67 might have a shot at an upgrade? Thanks!
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Thank you for the update @Whitewashqtr.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
You're welcome! You were pretty close!!
Just welcomed this 58-D into the set. Budget is low for the 1.00 weighted slots so not my finest, but it's got a CAC sticker and this timely halloween orange look to it. MS66
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
Nice display of high end quarters.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
I may have shared this in the past, but am not certain when, so please forgive me if it is dull. The 1932 issues are interesting in that most aren't found with substantial colorful toning. In my experience, they are either a cream-based color or have burnt caramel shades to them. Not so with this coin-
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Oh boy do I like this one, Tom!
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
Sent off a batch of coins to PCGS for reholdering and photography, and the TrueViews posted this past week. Here are the WashQs that were part of that group. It's always interesting to see how the TVs capture the coin. Some of these (the 65s esp) were cheap and casual coin show pickups before I started working seriously on a full set of toners.
MS66 — got this from DIMEMAN awhile back
MS66
MS66 — also from DIMEMAN
MS65
MS65
MS67 — the nicest of the group
MS66+
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
Bump
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I just received 2 quarters back from the grading room. Here is the '51-S:
1951-S Washington Quarter MS65
The other one I will show later received a loftier grade. So stay tuned!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
That 1951-S looks a lot better than MS65!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
My thoughts as well.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
Seems we are really slow around here. How about another one of my long-term coins?
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Here is the other Washington Quarter just back from grading. It wasn't a totally bad day at the (grading) office following the MS65.
1953-S Washington Quarter PCGS MS66+
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I bet that 1953-S has amazing luster.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
In this week from last Sunday's GreatCollections auction. Coin has great overall luster in-hand and the reverse is very attractive, which makes up for the somewhat scratchy, less interesting obverse. MS66
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
I am really surprised this is only a 65
Yeah, if I thought it would have been a 65 coin, I wouldn't have sent it in. That was a disappointment. I conferred with others prior to the '51-S PC submission to get additional opinions so the return was not expected. My thinking was the '51-S and '53-S were at least 66's. My '52-S was held back because I am sure it is a 65 or less. Jason @erwindoc has been a good mentor in response to a few questions I have had. My '39-P is also close but not a good submission candidate either due to the reverse wing scratch. I have a DANSCO set without keys but also additional singles I am looking through for candidates:
1939-P
1952-S
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
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Here is an enlarged image.
You have to mark "variety attribution" on the form and pay the extra money or they wont do it...
Is this a PCGS recognized variety?
Yes Sir, it is!!
I did mark variety. They charged me $9 instead of the $18 for attribution.
But I'm not crazy, am I? That's clear as day! Even in L.A.
I would call them. They can fix it if it hasn't shipped out. Send pictures also.
I already received it back. They are such a pain. I really hate dealing with them. I sent them in in a PCGS box and forgot to put a note that I wanted the box back. I called them the day they received my order and they told me, "too bad, we cant find it and wont replace it". Plus, I was really unhappy with the grades I received.
Here are all the raw coins I sent in.
1939-S MS 66
1952 MS 67
1943 DDO FS-102 - MS 66
This was sitting in an NGC holder and not attributed so this was a good find.
1952-S/S or 1952-S MS-65
I'm not even happy with the True View pictures. They seem very washed out.
I've noticed less mistakes when I complete the submission form online as opposed to hand written hard copies. Which way did you submit?
Filled out the online submission form. No handwritten info of any kind. Box is clearly checked. But them charging me $9 for variety attribution. Here is a screen shot for that part of the form.
It seems you have a case to call them for a resolution and seek restitution from what you are stating.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
that does not look like FS-501 shown in variety vista - it is a S/S/S with one to the north CPG looks same
varietyvista.com/09b%20WQ%20Vol%202/RPM%20Detail%20Pages/1952SRPM001.htm
congrats on the 67, do you know what type of holder it was in?
@davewesen You have a good point. It could be that @Whitewashqtr has a variety, yes, but it does not match exactly the one recognized by PCGS. I have a similar issue with a 1907-S Barber Quarter that has two, very clear, RPM's but only one is recognized by PCGS. This means the submitter has to do some homework to be sure their variety directly matches the one recognized. The RPM might be very obvious but if it is not in Fivaz Cherrypickers, and PCGS does not have a ready-made designation, it won't get a variety label. Good point you make.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
If his s/s variety is not recognized it should be. That is very obvious. I think they just missed it.
Looks more like the 502 to me
Those are some very nice WQs. I REALLY like the 52!! That is sweet
Which variety did they give the 1943? It for certain is not the FS-103. Maybe the 101 or 102
Typo. They graded it FS-102.
Good point Davewesen and thanks for interpreting that Sedulous. That actually makes sense that if they don't recognize it, then they can't attribute it. But it is clear and Kaleidoscope make a good point as well, it should be recognized. Clear as day. Maybe I have a one of a kind variety....lol.
Here is a little quiz. which one of these 53-S coins is a 67+ and which one is a 68.
In order. 68 then 67+
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I agree
I would say the first coin is a 67+ and the bottom coin is a 68
Here is my Washington Quarter Variety Registry Set
This is my Washington Quarter Proof Variety Registry Set
Strike and luster appear better on the top. It does appear to have a hit at the top of the hairline in the toning and a hit on the eagle. Really tough, but I think the top is the 68.
This feels like a trick question.
Prior to the advent of the TPGs, I would much rather own the top coin rather than the bottom coin. However, with the value assigned to a TPG grade, I would prefer to own the MS68, whichever it might be.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
You guys are pretty good. 3 for the top and 1 for the bottom - TomB is buying the holder either way...lol. The tops win!! The top is the 68 and the bottom is the 67+
I think the top has a slightly better strike especially in the hair and in the wings on the reverse.
FYI - the luster AND color on the 67+ are really nice, I've seen it in person. I have not seen the 68 in person.
The ‘53 on the top is the nicer coin IMO, but 68 seems generous given the quantity of hits on both sides, although I admit I’ve looked at very few 68s. I punched the cert# into the CAC lookup and it does not have a sticker.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
The 53-S 67+ does have a CAC sticker.
Or just own both then you don't have to choose. LOL
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
As a type collector, there are many series where I am completely out of my element when it comes to grading…and this is one of them!
Any thoughts, based on these PCGS photos, as to whether this 67 might have a shot at an upgrade? Thanks!
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