@cjdilego said:
Here is a 1940 MS 65 Gold CAC in an old fatty holder from NGC. I am thinking of sending it in to PCGS to be crossed and graded. What do you think?
Looks like a 66 to me. Might even get a bump for the color!
@KaleidoscopeQuarters said:
Regarding the 32p at HA last night, it's actually an unattributed DDO. Ear lobe and Queue are clear. Nostril harder to see. The die breaks on obverse and reverse all match up. Found out from John Philips.
Interesting. I did not notice at first glance. I actually see the nostril. It's pretty cool. Still a very nice coin!
@cjdilego said:
Here is a 1940 MS 65 Gold CAC in an old fatty holder from NGC. I am thinking of sending it in to PCGS to be crossed and graded. What do you think?
In my opinion that would be a foolish maneuver. You have a coin with good eye appeal that has a gold CAC sticker on it and folks have gone absolutely mad to find gold CAC sticker pieces. It's graded MS65 and the price you paid was about PCGS MS67 money, but after a crossover attempt and then a new CAC sticker that baseline for cost is going to be incrementally higher. It seems to me that this strategy will not only reduce the liquidity of the coin greatly, but will also reduce its value minimally while increasing the all-in price to you.
@cjdilego said:
Here is a 1940 MS 65 Gold CAC in an old fatty holder from NGC. I am thinking of sending it in to PCGS to be crossed and graded. What do you think?
As nice of a coin that is, keep it in holder and find an additional specimen.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Wow! This thread has been going since 2014! I'm not certain of all the coins I have or have not posted into the thread, but a quick look through it shows multiple coins that I had once owned that are now owned by other folks. That is pretty cool, in my opinion.
Here's a coin from a year where there were no US Mint Sets so the numbers of nicely toned pieces are more limited.
Great quarter Tom! I started this thread back then and I am excited it is still going strong! Popular series with lots of great coins. To follow your coin will be tough, but here goes! This one had a surprise tru-view when I looked up the cert number.
@KaleidoscopeQuarters said:
I sent Ian a message as soon as the picture showed. He has yet to respond. I sent him both sets of pictures and asked if there was anything that could be done. The coin definitely does not look like the GC photos. Oh well....
As a side note, I found out recently that True Views have back-up images. Your situation is not relevant in this instance but it got me thinking and I thought I should share on that. If you don't like a TV pic, you can ask for a back-up. I had a Seated Lib Half Dollar that was orange-colored for the TV. The actual coin is not even close to orange-toned. After saying something, they replaced the pic with a more accurate image from back-up. So much better.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
All of my son's like the 52-S the best, but my favorite is the 51-S. Stunning in hand and very unique. The 1945-S is second for the same reason. I have not tried to upgrade any of these coins, but I believe the 45, 45D, and 45S could. Heck, I guess with PCGS who knows, any of them could...
The 1949 and 1938 could definitely be siblings, which is pretty amazing for the 1938 since there were no US Mint Sets that year while the 1949 definitely looks to be an original US Mint Set coin.
I don’t have a quarter registry but I do have a type registry, so maybe that counts? This one was my second favorite from the Washington Rainbows set after the 68+.
I wish we could blow the images up a bit, but they still look like a great group of coins. I will guess as follows-
1932-D; MS64 (I also have the thought of possibly cleaned because the obverse shows swirls where I am typically accustomed to seeing outwardly radial die polish lines.)
1932-S; MS64+ (There appears to be a thick, original skin on the coin. The milling mark in the hair hurts the grade, but I am not certain how deeply toned the obverse is or how much luster blasts through the skin. Oddly enough, in my experience the 1932-S appears to be graded to a slightly more loose standard than the 1932-D at PCGS.)
1940-S: MS67 (The coin appears to have a more PL-ish surface than a blasty lustrous one and that can hurt a coin as any stray marks show up quite well on the PL-ish coins.)
1941-S; MS66+ (I hate giving out plus grades, but in this case it likely is a liner between MS66 and MS67 and will come down to the luster. The TV shots don't always allow one to decipher luster vs. color, so I am splitting the difference on this coin.)
1946; MS66 (The reverse looks too muted to be a slam-dunk MS67.)
1953; MS67 (I interpret the luster on this coin to be overall a bit less than the 1941-S imaged prior to it, but I've seen lots of this issue with higher grades than I expected if they were other dates. I have no idea why this is other than random observation.)
1953-S; MS67 (I'll be honest with you in that I am not loving this coin as the S-mint issues from 1947-1954 have likely the best average luster in the entire traditional silver WQ series and this particular issue can be found with amazing shades and colors. I interpret the reverse of this coin to be too dark for me when it also has a partial fingerprint along "QUARTER DOLLAR". The grade I guessed is the grade I think PCGS would assign the coin.)
Nobody? I guess it has only been 24-hours since I posted my guesses, but I would have thought more folks might have studied these wonderful coins. Of course, I also realize we are in the weekend. Oh well, here is something to keep us occupied-
@TomB said:
Nobody? I guess it has only been 24-hours since I posted my guesses, but I would have thought more folks might have studied these wonderful coins. Of course, I also realize we are in the weekend. Oh well, here is something to keep us occupied-
@TomB said:
Nobody? I guess it has only been 24-hours since I posted my guesses, but I would have thought more folks might have studied these wonderful coins. Of course, I also realize we are in the weekend. Oh well, here is something to keep us occupied-
Well I picked up one of my last 3 coins needed and its Tim's @KaleidoscopeQuarters 1936 d MS 66+ from Heritage. Down to the 1934 d and the 1937 S left. Hopefully your sales worked out between GC and Heritage? Look forward to adding one of your coins to my set. @Whitewashqtr Love your recent submission and can't wait to see the grades.
Just picked up a 37-S actually from last week’s Great Collections auction. No TrueView but very happy with the in-hand color, luster and overall coin. Will send to PCGS in my next batch (probably next year).
@P0CKETCHANGE said:
Just picked up a 37-S actually from last week’s Great Collections auction. No TrueView but very happy with the in-hand color, luster and overall coin. Will send to PCGS in my next batch (probably next year).
That's nice too! Congrats. My 37-S is in an old rattler MS-66. Im convinced it's a 67 but who knows. It may be worth more in the rattler.
1932-D; MS64 - not cleaned. Was very disappointed it was not a 65. It has some luster, barely any ticks and looks a lot better in person than some 65s I've seen.
1932-S; MS64 - was hoping for 64+
1940-S: MS67 - This is a very clean coin with a lot of luster and a sharp strike. It's better than my 40-S MS67+
1941-S; MS67 - was expecting this but was hoping for a 67+ as an outside shot. I noticed in the pic there appears to be some doubling in the date and motto... mostly the "4" and the "S".
1946; MS67 - very lustrous with great color. Too many hits for a 67+
1953; MS67 - was expecting a 67+
1953-S MS67+ - not flat when it comes to luster and one of my favorite coins.
@CoinJunkie said:
Coins will be cracked unconditionally prior to Regrade. Coins will be evaluated in current holder and only cracked if upgraded with Reconsideration.
So they won't know it came from an old 2.1 holder with a gold CAC?
@CoinJunkie said:
Coins will be cracked unconditionally prior to Regrade. Coins will be evaluated in current holder and only cracked if upgraded with Reconsideration.
So they won't know it came from an old 2.1 holder with a gold CAC?
In reconsideration they would know because they have to evaluate it in its current holder. With regrade, they crack and send them to the graders as if they were raw, but you won't get a lesser grade than the original holder.
@CoinJunkie said:
Coins will be cracked unconditionally prior to Regrade. Coins will be evaluated in current holder and only cracked if upgraded with Reconsideration.
So they won't know it came from an old 2.1 holder with a gold CAC?
In reconsideration they would know because they have to evaluate it in its current holder. With regrade, they crack and send them to the graders as if they were raw, but you won't get a lesser grade than the original holder.
Just curious if You know what happens during Crossover...NGC PF70 Ultra Cameo = ???
If you don't specify a lower allowable grade, PCGS will assume the current grade or higher is only acceptable grade. Of course, you can't go higher than 70 DCAM...
Raw submissions and reconsideration submissions will go through all 4 or 5 stages on the website regardless of whether it crosses or not. I've had my bubble busted because I thought the same thing.. encapsulation=cross, but not the case.
@KaleidoscopeQuarters said:
Negative. I learned that the hard way. It could be a DNC. Only time will tell
Have to agree with this. Sent in 2 coins to cross and they went to encapsulation. They were both even given CERT numbers so of course I thought they would cross but they didnt.
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Here is a 1940 MS 65 Gold CAC in an old fatty holder from NGC. I am thinking of sending it in to PCGS to be crossed and graded. What do you think?
I cannot see that as a plus. The toning is not what I like(fingerprints and old smudges), but definitely original, which is why CAC probably liked it.
Looks like a 66 to me. Might even get a bump for the color!
Interesting. I did not notice at first glance. I actually see the nostril. It's pretty cool. Still a very nice coin!
In my opinion that would be a foolish maneuver. You have a coin with good eye appeal that has a gold CAC sticker on it and folks have gone absolutely mad to find gold CAC sticker pieces. It's graded MS65 and the price you paid was about PCGS MS67 money, but after a crossover attempt and then a new CAC sticker that baseline for cost is going to be incrementally higher. It seems to me that this strategy will not only reduce the liquidity of the coin greatly, but will also reduce its value minimally while increasing the all-in price to you.
I don't get that strategy.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
As nice of a coin that is, keep it in holder and find an additional specimen.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Wow! This thread has been going since 2014! I'm not certain of all the coins I have or have not posted into the thread, but a quick look through it shows multiple coins that I had once owned that are now owned by other folks. That is pretty cool, in my opinion.
Here's a coin from a year where there were no US Mint Sets so the numbers of nicely toned pieces are more limited.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Great quarter Tom! I started this thread back then and I am excited it is still going strong! Popular series with lots of great coins. To follow your coin will be tough, but here goes! This one had a surprise tru-view when I looked up the cert number.
Don't you just love it when there is a TV image that you hadn't anticipated? It's like a nice little gift after the fact.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
As a side note, I found out recently that True Views have back-up images. Your situation is not relevant in this instance but it got me thinking and I thought I should share on that. If you don't like a TV pic, you can ask for a back-up. I had a Seated Lib Half Dollar that was orange-colored for the TV. The actual coin is not even close to orange-toned. After saying something, they replaced the pic with a more accurate image from back-up. So much better.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Here are 7 gorgeous WQs at HA this week.
https://coins.ha.com/c/search.zx?saleNo=132140&collection=29&FC=0&type=friend-consignorlive-notice
These are from my personal collection and all are CAC.
7 AT GreatCollections. These were my personal favorites of the collection.
.. and here is the reverse of the 1945-D
The 38P is really nice!
All of my son's like the 52-S the best, but my favorite is the 51-S. Stunning in hand and very unique. The 1945-S is second for the same reason. I have not tried to upgrade any of these coins, but I believe the 45, 45D, and 45S could. Heck, I guess with PCGS who knows, any of them could...
@KaleidoscopeQuarters I’m a BIG fan of that 49
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
The 1949 and 1938 could definitely be siblings, which is pretty amazing for the 1938 since there were no US Mint Sets that year while the 1949 definitely looks to be an original US Mint Set coin.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
I don’t have a quarter registry but I do have a type registry, so maybe that counts? This one was my second favorite from the Washington Rainbows set after the 68+.
Holy Crud that's gorgeous!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
These just came back from PCGS. Feel free to comment... good or bad.
32-D-----MS64 (possibly cleaned?)
32-S ----MS62 (possibly cleaned?)
40--S ---MS66+
41-s - --MS66
46------ MS66
53 - ---- MS 67
53-S---- MS66+
And I'm probably wrong on every one!!
maybe others will weigh in before I reveal.
I wish we could blow the images up a bit, but they still look like a great group of coins. I will guess as follows-
1932-D; MS64 (I also have the thought of possibly cleaned because the obverse shows swirls where I am typically accustomed to seeing outwardly radial die polish lines.)
1932-S; MS64+ (There appears to be a thick, original skin on the coin. The milling mark in the hair hurts the grade, but I am not certain how deeply toned the obverse is or how much luster blasts through the skin. Oddly enough, in my experience the 1932-S appears to be graded to a slightly more loose standard than the 1932-D at PCGS.)
1940-S: MS67 (The coin appears to have a more PL-ish surface than a blasty lustrous one and that can hurt a coin as any stray marks show up quite well on the PL-ish coins.)
1941-S; MS66+ (I hate giving out plus grades, but in this case it likely is a liner between MS66 and MS67 and will come down to the luster. The TV shots don't always allow one to decipher luster vs. color, so I am splitting the difference on this coin.)
1946; MS66 (The reverse looks too muted to be a slam-dunk MS67.)
1953; MS67 (I interpret the luster on this coin to be overall a bit less than the 1941-S imaged prior to it, but I've seen lots of this issue with higher grades than I expected if they were other dates. I have no idea why this is other than random observation.)
1953-S; MS67 (I'll be honest with you in that I am not loving this coin as the S-mint issues from 1947-1954 have likely the best average luster in the entire traditional silver WQ series and this particular issue can be found with amazing shades and colors. I interpret the reverse of this coin to be too dark for me when it also has a partial fingerprint along "QUARTER DOLLAR". The grade I guessed is the grade I think PCGS would assign the coin.)
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Nobody? I guess it has only been 24-hours since I posted my guesses, but I would have thought more folks might have studied these wonderful coins. Of course, I also realize we are in the weekend. Oh well, here is something to keep us occupied-
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
I like it!!
+1
Well I picked up one of my last 3 coins needed and its Tim's @KaleidoscopeQuarters 1936 d MS 66+ from Heritage. Down to the 1934 d and the 1937 S left. Hopefully your sales worked out between GC and Heritage? Look forward to adding one of your coins to my set. @Whitewashqtr Love your recent submission and can't wait to see the grades.
Enjoy Tom
I used to be famous now I just collect coins.
Link to My Registry Set.
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-specialty-sets/washington-quarters-complete-variety-set-circulation-strikes-1932-1964/publishedset/78469
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I have always struggled with the 37S on every set I have ever made. Good luck!
Just picked up a 37-S actually from last week’s Great Collections auction. No TrueView but very happy with the in-hand color, luster and overall coin. Will send to PCGS in my next batch (probably next year).
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
I'm glad you got the 36-D. I was in Vegas and bid in person on that one with all 4 of my boys there. I always believed that coin should be 67.
Congrats on your 36-D! It's a beauty! I was tracking that one.
Here's my 36-D MS 66+ - When this was upgraded from a 66, it had a CAC sticker on it so I have to get that taken care of.
That's nice too! Congrats. My 37-S is in an old rattler MS-66. Im convinced it's a 67 but who knows. It may be worth more in the rattler.
Any update on the grades of those WQs, @Whitewashqtr? I don't know about @KaleidoscopeQuarters, but I am curious.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Yes, I was curious as well! .,.and the survey says!!!!..... Oh yes, GO BRAVES!!!
2 of mine made the GC Banner!!
they both end this Sunday..
1932-D; MS64 - not cleaned. Was very disappointed it was not a 65. It has some luster, barely any ticks and looks a lot better in person than some 65s I've seen.
1932-S; MS64 - was hoping for 64+
1940-S: MS67 - This is a very clean coin with a lot of luster and a sharp strike. It's better than my 40-S MS67+
1941-S; MS67 - was expecting this but was hoping for a 67+ as an outside shot. I noticed in the pic there appears to be some doubling in the date and motto... mostly the "4" and the "S".
1946; MS67 - very lustrous with great color. Too many hits for a 67+
1953; MS67 - was expecting a 67+
1953-S MS67+ - not flat when it comes to luster and one of my favorite coins.
So there you have it!
Just received this purchase in the mail today. Very happy with this one!! MS66 CAC
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
That's awesome for a 66. 66s were usually what I called, BU... as in "Beat up"! That looks amazing! Congrats
Wow, you have some high standards! Try that on the Seated Dollar and old gold threads. 😆
So they won't know it came from an old 2.1 holder with a gold CAC?
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Not a chance. And yes, I do have high standards!
In reconsideration they would know because they have to evaluate it in its current holder. With regrade, they crack and send them to the graders as if they were raw, but you won't get a lesser grade than the original holder.
Just curious if You know what happens during Crossover...NGC PF70 Ultra Cameo = ???
My 1957-2022 Proof Set Collection Has Been Sold
yes.... they evaluate in the holder. They cant crack it because if it doesn't cross they would ruin the encapsulation from the other TPG.
If you don't specify a lower allowable grade, PCGS will assume the current grade or higher is only acceptable grade. Of course, you can't go higher than 70 DCAM...
The Crossover Submission was an NGC PF70 Ultra Cameo
So if I specified PR70DCAM...and the coin has completed "Encapsulation" today and is now in "Holder Check and Label Verification"...
Is is safe to assume it crossed to PR70DCAM and I can assume notification within...how many business days?
My 1957-2022 Proof Set Collection Has Been Sold
Negative. I learned that the hard way. It could be a DNC. Only time will tell
Raw submissions and reconsideration submissions will go through all 4 or 5 stages on the website regardless of whether it crosses or not. I've had my bubble busted because I thought the same thing.. encapsulation=cross, but not the case.
Have to agree with this. Sent in 2 coins to cross and they went to encapsulation. They were both even given CERT numbers so of course I thought they would cross but they didnt.