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  • Paulyaces76Paulyaces76 Posts: 294 ✭✭
    It looks to me like they are trimming golds from big orders, to make up for that 5,000 oversell. Anyone with an order over 20 golds fill yet?
  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    In reply to Type2's post


    Thats the way I see it. Once they ship the bag you cant cancel the coin. The CSR told me I could refuse the bag or the
    coin - I forget exactly what she was talking about but all that sounds too complicated. I once refused delivery of some
    coins and the Mint promptly sent them right back to me.

    This free bag business is not good on our end. It's some bs move by the Mint to lock you in.


  • << <i>It looks to me like they are trimming golds from big orders, to make up for that 5,000 oversell. Anyone with an order over 20 golds fill yet? >>



    I have an order of 10 golds with lots of silver that hasn't gone off hold yet, no CC hit except for 4.95, order made at 12:09. Another order 10 minutes later of smaller quantity of silvers has CC hit and in stock and reserved


  • << <i>It looks to me like they are trimming golds from big orders, to make up for that 5,000 oversell. Anyone with an order over 20 golds fill yet? >>





    I got order for 23 proof gold with credit card charged today, no tracking.
  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This free bag business is not good on our end. It's some bs move by the Mint to lock you in. >>



    I agree the bag sucks (I have 8 already BEFORE the HOF and pucks ship) but it does NOT lock you in. I returned 2 LEPS's (bag shipped separate) and they didn't send Federal agents to my house demanding the return of "The Bag". I would have given them all eight!
  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I got order for 23 proof gold with credit card charged today, no tracking. >>



    Please clarify...CC charge pending? $4.95? Full amount?



  • << <i>

    << <i>It looks to me like they are trimming golds from big orders, to make up for that 5,000 oversell. Anyone with an order over 20 golds fill yet? >>



    I have an order of 10 golds with lots of silver that hasn't gone off hold yet, no CC hit except for 4.95, order made at 12:09. Another order 10 minutes later of smaller quantity of silvers has CC hit and in stock and reserved >>



    Checked again, big order with gold got charged to card just now. Now what?
  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    I think a bunch are getting ready to ship tomorrow...they always ship on Thursday because that way the UPS 2nd day Air is pointless

    My 2pm order went to "in process" cancel boxes gone


  • << <i>

    << <i>I got order for 23 proof gold with credit card charged today, no tracking. >>



    Please clarify...CC charge pending? $4.95? Full amount? >>



    Full amount, order placed at 12:12 all other orders on hold but In stock and reserved for 26 more gold.


  • << <i>I think a bunch are getting ready to ship tomorrow...they always ship on Thursday because that way the UPS 2nd day Air is pointless >>



    I don't buy many coins from the mint…last purchases were when they were shipping the newest $1 coins for free and then, I bought
    the Jamestown gold which were shipped via FEDEX.

    So I assume these will come via UPS and if they get shipped tomorrow I shouldn't expect them until Monday?? No Saturday
    delivery huh?

    Sorry to be such a newbie but it has been a while...
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  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Full amount, order placed at 12:12 all other orders on hold but In stock and reserved for 26 more gold. >>


    From past experience, watch for shipping tomorrow. Once CC charged for full amount, shipping usually happens within 24 hours.

  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    A NGC MS70 Slabbed at Baltimore just sold for close to $3k on ebay!
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
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  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mint News Blog is reporting some crazy numbers for ebay sales too.

  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    I didn't keep track when my actual order went into the Mint's system.
    It must have been somewhere around 2:15 PM. I had a friend visiting
    me from Cape Cod and told him he wasn't getting to the airport until
    my order was confirmed. ( # 42938XXX ).


    I ordered both varieties of everything and a duplicate Silver Proof for
    a YN who helps a friend at shows in Fresno, CA.

    I should have ordered duplicate Gold - as now it seems to have more
    than doubled. I plan on keeping them raw - in my Eagle Albums.
    Mike Hayes
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  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,805 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A NGC MS70 Slabbed at Baltimore just sold for close to $3k on ebay! >>



    Wow.

    I sold my NGC 70 PAIR for $3800. Great $ but looks like I shoulda held a bit longer.

    Looks like time to sell my PCGS 70s and buy back later once they come down.

    PCGS 70s sold for $5K EACH! Now several listed @ that price. PCGS 70 BIN @ $4k would likely go fast.
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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just got notice that my "bag" was on it's way from the mint distribution center in Plainfeild, IN;

    Date Shipped: 4/02/14

    Amount Charged : 4.95

    Items included in this shipment:

    1. UNITED STATES MINT REUSABLE BAG (NWTBAG1) Qty : 1


    Back order on the remaining order;

    Proof Silver Dollar - 1 unit backordered Expected to ship on 06/01/2014.

    UNC Silver Dollar - 1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 04/16/2014.


    Such a waste to ship a "bag" via FedEx.
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  • edgaredgar Posts: 886 ✭✭✭✭

    ..."Such a waste to ship a "bag" via FedEx....

    That is for orders less than $300.00. The mint is actually having these 17 cent bags packed in a box
    and shipped via UPS 2nd Day Air for orders shipped as expedited. And don't forget,
    If you should have a reason to return your item(s) and the remaining items are worth less than $75.00,
    they'll probably insist that you ship the free bag back to them as well.

    (l8-)>>

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edgar,

    Here is the info that I receive when I used the U.S. Mint's Tracking Number for my order;

    Tracking number XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    Weight 0.4 lbs
    Total pieces 1
    Service FedEx SmartPost
    Dimensions 6x6x6 in.
    Packaging Package


    ...unless this is outsourced to UPS.
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  • GATGAT Posts: 3,146


    << <i>edgar,

    Here is the info that I receive when I used the U.S. Mint's Tracking Number for my order;

    Tracking number XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    Weight 0.4 lbs
    Total pieces 1
    Service FedEx SmartPost
    Dimensions 6x6x6 in.
    Packaging Package


    ...unless this is outsourced to UPS. >>



    FedEx carries SmartPost shipments via ground and delivers them to your local post office. Your local postman then delivers them to your address. From the east coast to California the process takes around a week.
    USAF vet 1951-59
  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As of this morning, my order status has changed from "On Hold" to "Your order request is in process."

    2014 BASEBALL HOF PROOF SILVER DOLLAR.....1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 04/16/2014.
    2014 BASEBALL HOF CLAD UNC.....2 units backordered. Expected to ship on 04/16/2014.
    2014 BASEBALL HOF PROOF $5 GOLD.....1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 06/21/2014.
    2014 BASEBALL HOF UNC SILVER DOLLAR.....1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 04/16/2014.
    2014 BASEBALL HOF UNC $5 GOLD.....1 unit backordered. Expected to ship on 06/21/2014.
    UNITED STATES MINT REUSABLE BAG.....In stock and reserved

    Thank goodness the bag is in stock and reserved.

    Cheers,

    Bob
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Progressing right along.....anyone else at this juncture?


    edited to add some pops........

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    There are almost 30 unique PCGS numbers for the HOF series. >>



    So, just under half of balto gold made it to PCGS

    Amazing how high 70 pops are. >>



    Wow...The 70's F/S totals have already exceeded the ones graded for the Army & MOH $5.00 coins.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • BurksBurks Posts: 1,103
    All mine have been changed to backordered. Hope I get the gold....
    WTB: Eric Plunk cards, jersey (signed or unsigned), and autographs. Basically anything related to him

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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just received notification that my order (placed at 1203) shipped!
    Of course, upon further review, I discovered that they indeed only shipped the bag. The bag is shipped separately? Its a $2500 order placed three minutes after the opening bell, and they find it necessary to separate the order and rush me the stupid promotional bag? And we wonder why this government has us trillions in debt.

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  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭
    I thought that the bags were just part of the order that came with it. Glad that 10 of 11 of my orders were delayed long enough for me to cancel those stupid bags as I sure don't want 11 bags at $4.95 a bag. One bag wont take up much space in my rubbish bin this week. Six of my orders have been moved up from June deliveries to 4/16 and these are all single gold proof orders.
  • giorgio11giorgio11 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My credit card was charged yesterday. 3 each of the BU and Proof gold on the way along with the silver dollars!

    Best Regards,

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  • dtkk49adtkk49a Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭
    Does anyone know if PCGS or NGC will slab all 3 coins in one holder?
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  • HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I also had two bags shipped by themselves. One FedEx Smart post and the one on the order
    which will have upgraded shipping went UPS 2nd Day Air. With all the time spent shipping the bags
    they could have shipped thousands of coin orders. That is what happens when you use a seperate fullfillment
    company. Their first priority is creating more billable work for themselves.
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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,289 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Glad that 10 of 11 of my orders were delayed long enough for me to cancel those stupid bags as I sure don't want 11 bags at $4.95 a bag. >>



    They're free, Uncle Sam picks up the shipping when they split the order.

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    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭
    I don't mind the multiple mint bags. I reuse the mint shipping boxes also for shipping. These shipping boxes alone probably cost at least .50 to a $1.00 each if I bought them myself.
  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I also had two bags shipped by themselves. One FedEx Smart post and the one on the order
    which will have upgraded shipping went UPS 2nd Day Air. With all the time spent shipping the bags
    they could have shipped thousands of coin orders. That is what happens when you use a seperate fullfillment
    company. Their first priority is creating more billable work for themselves. >>





    Ive tried to imagine the thinking behind this bagshot with the bags - You just nailed it. Makes perfect sense now.


    image
  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Does anyone know if PCGS or NGC will slab all 3 coins in one holder? >>



    Or even a six-coin holder for the set.

    Cheers,

    Bob
  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    Just curious..

    ....Has ANYONE received a "waiting list" email from the Mint? (They said they would notify collectors if they were on the list)

    ....has ANYONE received a "sorry the item you ordered is sold out" email from the Mint....

    Orders placed WELL after the sellout are still listed as on hold with a July ship date.....


  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just curious..

    ....Has ANYONE received a "waiting list" email from the Mint? (They said they would notify collectors if they were on the list)

    ....has ANYONE received a "sorry the item you ordered is sold out" email from the Mint....

    Orders placed WELL after the sellout are still listed as on hold with a July ship date..... >>


    Their on hold because enough cancellations and denials because of bad CC or addresses may happen to let your order be processed...all is not lost yet

  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    I was trying to differentiate between actual orders and those that are on the "waiting list"...there is no way to tell them apart

    My Thursday 222pm order is "on hold"

    My "just for the heck of it" order from late Friday is "on hold" and with the same (gold) shipping dates

    Why can't they differentiate between the two????
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Finally.....just got my UPS tracking # image

    1ZE1988X35314xxxxx
    edited to add:

    A forum member just informed me about the bag shipping on its own and no coins....he was right!!


    https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/oldattachments/hofship4314.jpg
    image
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    One other note.....why is my signature needed for a bag???

    image
  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why can't they differentiate between the two???? >>

    My WAG from looking at the order number thread. There are some three groups of ship dates; early to mid-April, late May to mid-June, and mid-July.

    If your order is shipping in April, you were early enough in line to get the coins already stamped out by the mint. Since there was a 50K combined total of MS and PF, they probably only stamped out the first 10K to 15K (a guess) of each?

    If your gold is backordered until May/June, I think there's a pretty good chance you'll get the coin, they just have to press 'em, print the COA's, etc. Assuming (there's that word) the June orders fulfill the 50K allowed, they'll know soon after how many credit cards have been denied, how many cancels and how many returns. (You only have a week to return.)

    So if you have a July date, you're probably on the waiting list. You just don't know where on the waiting list. If people would updated their order number and time with backorder dates, you might be able to extrapolate a better idea of when they ran out of pre-made coins, when they sold out, and where you are on the waiting list.

    Monday's total sold was just over 59K, so I assume there are 9K on the waiting list, which might seem like a lot until you look at the past two ASE set cancellations.

    Of course, we are talking about the government here, which could deny any sort of rational logic, so take this post with a grain of salt... image
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,690 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My card was charged yesterday, but when I go to my order and it shows the free bag was shipped UPS today and the coins are "in stock and reserved." Shouldn't coins ship once card is charged?


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • OperationButterOperationButter Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    I havent been able to keep up with the order numbers, order times and what the general thought is considering who will get their gold order and who wont. Can someone that has been paying attention please tell me if it looks likely that I will receive my gold order or not? My two order information is below. Thanks!


    Order number: 42936XXX
    Order Date: 03/27/2014 at 02:42 PM
    Expected to ship on 06/21/2014.


    Order number: 42939XXX
    Order Date: 03/27/2014 at 03:13 PM
    Expected to ship on 06/21/2014.

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,309 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My card was charged yesterday, but when I go to my order and it shows the free bag was shipped UPS today and the coins are "in stock and reserved." Shouldn't coins ship once card is charged? >>



    Maybe the coins are not shipping with UPS.
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,023 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Why can't they differentiate between the two???? >>

    My WAG from looking at the order number thread. There are some three groups of ship dates; early to mid-April, late May to mid-June, and mid-July.

    If your order is shipping in April, you were early enough in line to get the coins already stamped out by the mint. Since there was a 50K combined total of MS and PF, they probably only stamped out the first 10K to 15K (a guess) of each?

    If your gold is backordered until May/June, I think there's a pretty good chance you'll get the coin, they just have to press 'em, print the COA's, etc. Assuming (there's that word) the June orders fulfill the 50K allowed, they'll know soon after how many credit cards have been denied, how many cancels and how many returns. (You only have a week to return.)

    So if you have a July date, you're probably on the waiting list. You just don't know where on the waiting list. If people would updated their order number and time with backorder dates, you might be able to extrapolate a better idea of when they ran out of pre-made coins, when they sold out, and where you are on the waiting list.

    Monday's total sold was just over 59K, so I assume there are 9K on the waiting list, which might seem like a lot until you look at the past two ASE set cancellations.

    Of course, we are talking about the government here, which could deny any sort of rational logic, so take this post with a grain of salt... image >>



    I think you're off on your presumptions. I have a PR/UNC Gold order at 3:54 PM EST with a backorder date of 6/21 that is in process with cancel boxes gone. I expect this order to ship in the next week or so. I've never seen an order go "In process" like this and not ship within days. My experience is based on 14 years of ordering with the Mint. I'll report back if anything changes.
  • OperationButterOperationButter Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think you're off on your presumptions. I have a PR/UNC Gold order at 3:54 PM EST with a backorder date of 6/21 that is in process with cancel boxes gone. I expect this order to ship in the next week or so. I've never seen an order go "In process" like this and not ship within days. My experience is based on 14 years of ordering with the Mint. I'll report back if anything changes. >>



    Both of my orders are before yours and I still have the cancel boxes on 1 of my 2 orders....
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  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My card was charged yesterday, but when I go to my order and it shows the free bag was shipped UPS today and the coins are "in stock and reserved." Shouldn't coins ship once card is charged? >>


    Check your card again. Charged $4.95 shipping? Or the full amount? $4.95 is the shipping for the whole order. You will not incure any more shipping charges even if they send each item in its own separate box.
    Yes, if your CC was charged the whole order amount, not just a pending charge but an actual transaction, then you can anticipate shipping from the mint shortly. If not today, tomorrow. The mint charges the CC as the last thing before actual transfer to the shipping dock and they won't dom it any sooner then this. Imagine the complaints if they charged your CC and then didn't ship for two weeks. They have learned from past practices and won't go through it again.
    My CC has a "Pending" charge from the mint for the full amount. I don't count this as charge. I will not anticipate shipping until at the soonest Friday. If I check again and see the mint charges, full amount, in the "Recent Transactions" only then will I be looking for the mint to say my order has shipped. And I will then post here that my coins have shipped. Not before. I don't care thatb they have shipped the bag. Yes it would be better to include it with the coins in one box. The mint with it unfathomable thinking reasons otherwise and we are not going to change their twisted thinking here. Maybe they are locking us in with out the option of canceling. I think it's stupid, they don't. Stupid is as stupid does.
    All these post about my card has been charged aren't telling the full story. If they would say how much and if it is an actual completed transaction it would clearly indicate the true status of an order. Please?

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,690 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>My card was charged yesterday, but when I go to my order and it shows the free bag was shipped UPS today and the coins are "in stock and reserved." Shouldn't coins ship once card is charged? >>



    Maybe the coins are not shipping with UPS. >>



    Seems like such a waste to ship the bag separately with signature required no less if they're going to just charge my card at the same time?


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,690 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>My card was charged yesterday, but when I go to my order and it shows the free bag was shipped UPS today and the coins are "in stock and reserved." Shouldn't coins ship once card is charged? >>


    Check your card again. Charged $4.95 shipping? Or the full amount? $4.95 is the shipping for the whole order. You will not incure any more shipping charges even if they send each item in its own separate box.
    Yes, if your CC was charged the whole order amount, not just a pending charge but an actual transaction, then you can anticipate shipping from the mint shortly. If not today, tomorrow. The mint charges the CC as the last thing before actual transfer to the shipping dock. >>



    Thanks for the info--my card was charged for the full amount~a bit over 1K plus $4.95 shipping, but it shows as a pending transaction, so I suppose I will have to wait till the transaction shows as completed before the coins will ship, correct?


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.


  • << <i>

    << <i>My card was charged yesterday, but when I go to my order and it shows the free bag was shipped UPS today and the coins are "in stock and reserved." Shouldn't coins ship once card is charged? >>


    Check your card again. Charged $4.95 shipping? Or the full amount? $4.95 is the shipping for the whole order. You will not incure any more shipping charges even if they send each item in its own separate box.
    Yes, if your CC was charged the whole order amount, not just a pending charge but an actual transaction, then you can anticipate shipping from the mint shortly. If not today, tomorrow. The mint charges the CC as the last thing before actual transfer to the shipping dock. >>




    They shipped my bag today is all, but my card was charged 2 different times. I ordered 23 gold coins. I also have other orders in stock but still on hold 5 min. apart.
    04/02/14 US MINT COIN SALES-D $ 9,769.25

    04/01/14 US MINT COIN SALES-D $ 4.95
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Both of my orders are before yours and I still have the cancel boxes on 1 of my 2 orders.... >>




    All my orders were before that order (30 minutes before) and mine have not changed. Cancel boxes still there, still on hold
    and gold is back ordered til 6/21, silver 4/16...
    Good for you.
  • unspendableunspendable Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    my friday night order 11:00 bag shipped but not my two orders around 4:00 on thursday..
  • bumanchubumanchu Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭
    Why would you want a bag to be included in your shipment if you wanted first strike after the cutoff?


    Nightmare for PCGS and you.


    So just do them all the same and ship separately.


    Makes sense to me.
    And I ain't lying this time.
  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 12,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>One other note.....why is my signature needed for a bag??? >>




    Ditto.
    Oh brother.
    image

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Crazy but it's so if you cancel your order they can charge you the shipping fee for the bag and say you sing for it. image


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