<< <i>Nice price on HSN Coin Vault, $4000 for a ANACS RP70. Sounds like a deal! >>
OMG! I hope that I'm not too late to jump in on that!!
Does that include shipping? >>
They had a special online today $ 1,000 off only $ 3,000 + $ 10 shipping. No longer says special, just regular price $ 2,999.95 + $10.00 for ( Limited first day of issue )
I guess these must be pre ANA coins.
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Flag labels have been around since gold buffalo introduction in 2006, a lot of collectors like to stick with them for continuity with their series set.
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ANA BUFFALO POPULATION REPORT Just looked and these numbers are reported: #520265 2013-W $50 American Buffalo Rev PR Chicago ANA 2013 - - 69 = 79, 70 = 215, total = 294 BTW, no regular (520050) or FS (520051) non ANA Buffalos are reported yet
<< <i>Does the mint account for the cancellations when they update The numbers on their website? >>
No, just new sales. The true number will be reported later this year in the certified mintage audit report. The returns and cancellations will be accounted for in this report.
<< <i>Most importantly these are the only .9999 Fine AU coin minted by the US Mint. I expect an international appetite to develope like the UHRDE, (they prefer their gold to be fine .9999). I would expect the 53,000-63,000 mintage to become scarce in the market over time, therefore the best specimina should do well. >>
My original order for 10 (1 hr after release) has shown "in stock and reserved" with a cancel box and order request is in process for 4 days now? Has anyone had theirs shipped in the last day or two?
I ordered a couple Plats from Mint last week and got them in 3 days???
<< <i>My original order for 10 (1 hr after release) has shown "in stock and reserved" with a cancel box and order request is in process for 4 days now? Has anyone had theirs shipped in the last day or two?
I ordered a couple Plats from Mint last week and got them in 3 days??? >>
Considering the volume of orders for the rp buffs, this is as expected so far.
Otherwise, in stock items go out with a goal of 7 days.
Except for the ANA coins and the one bump out of b/o dates for some, I'd say things are going normally and ok.
<< <i>I just called pcgs first strike cut off is 9/19/13. >>
So they picked a start date after ANA and before actual shipping started 8/21. But considering 31 days in August, this is very close to the Mints updating the customer order pages with shipping notices.
<< <i>Most importantly these are the only .9999 Fine AU coin minted by the US Mint. I expect an international appetite to develope like the UHRDE, (they prefer their gold to be fine .9999). I would expect the 53,000-63,000 mintage to become scarce in the market over time, therefore the best specimina should do well. >>
<< <i>With the ship date from the Mint changing to 9/27 I wonder if the greater chance of getting returns, missing a FS cutoff date, and possible price increase might suppress the sales going forward. >>
Coin club member got 2 that were not fresh, previously handled , with nicks... most likely a return
<< <i>With the ship date from the Mint changing to 9/27 I wonder if the greater chance of getting returns, missing a FS cutoff date, and possible price increase might suppress the sales going forward. >>
Coin club member got 2 that were not fresh, previously handled , with nicks... most likely a return >>
It's too soon for returns on these to have found their way back to the mint's shelf.
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<< <i>Apparently very few 70's are going out on these. There are reports that SEVERAL are showing up to PCGS with spots and not meeting the minimum grade... >>
Does this mean that those who are planning in keeping their orders sealed should probably open it and check
<< <i>Apparently very few 70's are going out on these. There are reports that SEVERAL are showing up to PCGS with spots and not meeting the minimum grade... >>
The ANA ones show a 70 population percentage similar to both ASE's (RP & Enh'd) at about 75% getting 70
<< <i>"ANA BUFFALO POPULATION REPORT Just looked and these numbers are reported: #520265 2013-W $50 American Buffalo Rev PR Chicago ANA 2013 - - 69 = 79, 70 = 215, total = 294 BTW, no regular (520050) or FS (520051) non ANA Buffalos are reported yet >>
<< <i>Apparently very few 70's are going out on these. There are reports that SEVERAL are showing up to PCGS with spots and not meeting the minimum grade... >>
Does this mean that those who are planning in keeping their orders sealed should probably open it and check >>
Not if they plan to sell them sealed which I suspect is the case for most who are keeping them sealed.
I opened my 3 before submitting, didn't notice any spots. Are the spots developing because it's so hot outside? Or does heat have nothing to do with spots forming?
$800 gold and now spots. Where are these << Apparently very few 70's are going out on these. There are reports that SEVERAL are showing up to PCGS with spots and not meeting the minimum grade... >> reports coming from? By whom? The same source as the $800 gold scare?
I do have a spot on one off mine. It looks like a extra spot of frost on the shinny proof part. I ordered 12 and 4 of mine were not worth grading. 3 had small rub /scratch marks on the buffalo.Very small but still there.
<< <i>$800 gold and now spots. Where are these << Apparently very few 70's are going out on these. There are reports that SEVERAL are showing up to PCGS with spots and not meeting the minimum grade... >> reports coming from? By whom? The same source as the $800 gold scare? >>
the $800 gold is a number spread by fools who didn't purchase the 2013 reverse gold .....$800 gold would mean the collapse of global economies.. forget it .I trade gold , silver futures
<< <i>$800 gold and now spots. Where are these << Apparently very few 70's are going out on these. There are reports that SEVERAL are showing up to PCGS with spots and not meeting the minimum grade... >> reports coming from? By whom? The same source as the $800 gold scare? >>
the $800 gold is a number spread by fools who didn't purchase the 2013 reverse gold .....$800 gold would mean the collapse of global economies.. forget it .I trade gold , silver futures >>
I agree....that was my point. Unfounded, unattributed scary rumor. "My uncles friends neighbor knows a guy who overheard a dealer talking with a customer about spots." And the population report shows 75% 70 grades. I know, that report doesn't account for any that didn't make the grade. But remember the estimates of the number of ANA buffalo's that went to PCGS and NGC? The totals in the pop. report fall in line with those estimates. $800 gold sure looks possible after the last couple of days run up huh. So "minimal 70's and spots"? Rubbish.
Channel flipping just now....AAN Auction Channel....showing bidding on an NGC PF69 ANA Buffalo...winning bid was $2,500 + 10% buyers premium. $2,750 ! Crazy !
I think these Chicago ANA PCGS coins are going to look cheap. Haven't read much talk about these lately, but almost all have been graded. As they had to be submitted at the ANA show to get this label So with only 230 of these grading a 70, that's about 20% of the 2,000 released.
<< <i>I think these Chicago ANA PCGS coins are going to look cheap. Haven't read much talk about these lately, but almost all have been graded. As they had to be submitted at the ANA show to get this label So with only 230 of these grading a 70, that's about 20% of the 2,000 released.
Especially with these ANA graded coins, knowing when the coin was released, where it was released and its grade makes a huge difference to its value and what someone is willing to pay...
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Especially with these ANA graded coins, knowing when the coin was released, where it was released and its grade makes a huge difference to its value and what someone is willing to pay...
Long Live Suckers! >>
The only thing about a label insert that sells a coin is the coin's authenticity, numerical grade and who determined both. What makes the ANA label worth more is having a buyer who thinks it is worth more or a buyer who thinks he can sell if for even more than he paid. Has nothing to do with the coin.
Two kinds of collectors: (1) those who seriously collect for the joy they get from it (2) those who buy in hopes of price growth so they can resell to serious collectors
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<< <i>COUNTER UPDATE 38,861 up 1,304. Maybe because the price did not go up and remains at $1,740 >>
I suspect some of the big players will be placing further large orders now that demand is showing its pretty face. >>
If mintage remains under 50K (and the price of gold stays constant), I think we'll see some big orders the last couple of days of sale. That's generally been true for special issues, even the UHR.
My 8/8 order has gone from a last expected ship date of 8/28 to an " in stock and reserved" with cancel box, today.
Those Mint / PBGS people sure know how to foul up a wet dream. Next I'm expecting to see an expected Ship Date of 8/21/13 ! Just like the musical Ship Dates fiasco that went on with the West Point SAE sets.
Keep up the good work US Mint / PBGS, you people are true examples of hardworking competence. NOT !
Don't expect them to ship this week, Full Strike. Mine went from 8/23 to 8/28 to "in stock and reserved" where it has been for the last 4 days. Looks like I won't be getting mine until next week. Was hoping they'd ship before the 3 day weekend.
<< <i>My 8/8 order has gone from a last expected ship date of 8/28 to an " in stock and reserved" with cancel box, today.
Those Mint / PBGS people sure know how to foul up a wet dream. Next I'm expecting to see an expected Ship Date of 8/21/13 ! Just like the musical Ship Dates fiasco that went on with the West Point SAE sets.
Keep up the good work US Mint / PBGS, you people are true examples of hardworking competence. NOT !
>>
Well, after all, considering all of their products, it's not like they only have to worry about sending out three shipments a week.
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<< <i>Nice price on HSN Coin Vault, $4000 for a ANACS RP70. Sounds like a deal! >>
OMG! I hope that I'm not too late to jump in on that!!
Does that include shipping? >>
They had a special online today $ 1,000 off only $ 3,000 + $ 10 shipping.
No longer says special, just regular price $ 2,999.95 + $10.00 for ( Limited first day of issue )
I guess these must be pre ANA coins.
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<< <i>I'm not seeing many PCGS Flag labels, could they be the sleeper? >>
That would be nice as I ordered two of them. Was going to get an OGP from the mint for my future grandchild,
however I took advantage of John's great offer and cancelled the mint order.
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Just looked and these numbers are reported:
#520265 2013-W $50 American Buffalo Rev PR Chicago ANA 2013 - - 69 = 79, 70 = 215, total = 294
BTW, no regular (520050) or FS (520051) non ANA Buffalos are reported yet
The numbers on their website?
<< <i>Does the mint account for the cancellations when they update
The numbers on their website? >>
No, just new sales. The true number will be reported later this year in the certified mintage audit report. The returns and cancellations will be accounted for in this report.
Both invoices. ... 2 weeks apart. Same expected ship date
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<< <i>Most importantly these are the only .9999 Fine AU coin minted by the US Mint. I expect an international appetite to develope like the UHRDE, (they prefer their gold to be fine .9999). I would expect the 53,000-63,000 mintage to become scarce in the market over time, therefore the best specimina should do well. >>
Don't forget Spouse gold. They are .9999. >>
The UHR is .9999
<< <i>Mint's buffalo price will not be going down, thats all the fence dwellers need to know. >>
Lets all hope the "sliver gatherers" remain in place to keep mintages down and painful mint prices up.
While I did look at them to ensure they were flawless, I'm still nervous haha. Can't wait to see the grades.
<< <i>My invoice says Expected to ship on 09/08/2013.
Both invoices. ... 2 weeks apart. Same expected ship date >>
May be due to the mint doing it's quarterly inventory this week. Expedited shipping is suspended until
after Sept. 1.
Then again " Who's shipped first " " What gets shipped second " " I don't know when your's ships "
Has anyone had theirs shipped in the last day or two?
I ordered a couple Plats from Mint last week and got them in 3 days???
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<< <i>My invoice says Expected to ship on 09/08/2013.
Both invoices. ... 2 weeks apart. Same expected ship date >>
May be due to the mint doing it's quarterly inventory this week. Expedited shipping is suspended until
after Sept. 1.
Then again " Who's shipped first " " What gets shipped second " " I don't know when your's ships "
I ordered 1 from MCM, too.
The card is charged. The money is gone. No coin is still not in hand.
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38,861 up 1,304. Maybe because the price did not go up and remains at $1,740
<< <i>My original order for 10 (1 hr after release) has shown "in stock and reserved" with a cancel box and order request is in process for 4 days now?
Has anyone had theirs shipped in the last day or two?
I ordered a couple Plats from Mint last week and got them in 3 days??? >>
Considering the volume of orders for the rp buffs, this is as expected so far.
Otherwise, in stock items go out with a goal of 7 days.
Except for the ANA coins and the one bump out of b/o dates for some, I'd say things are going normally and ok.
<< <i>I just called pcgs first strike cut off is 9/19/13. >>
So they picked a start date after ANA and before actual shipping started 8/21. But considering 31 days in August, this is very close to the Mints updating the customer order pages with shipping notices.
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<< <i>
<< <i>Most importantly these are the only .9999 Fine AU coin minted by the US Mint. I expect an international appetite to develope like the UHRDE, (they prefer their gold to be fine .9999). I would expect the 53,000-63,000 mintage to become scarce in the market over time, therefore the best specimina should do well. >>
Don't forget Spouse gold. They are .9999. >>
The UHR is .9999 >>
I appreciate the link.
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<< <i>I just called pcgs first strike cut off is 9/19/13. >>
That will put a little pressure on Pitney Bowes....
Shipments on 9-8 are gonna cut it very close.
<< <i>With the ship date from the Mint changing to 9/27 I wonder if the greater chance of getting returns, missing a FS cutoff date, and possible price increase might suppress the sales going forward. >>
Coin club member got 2 that were not fresh, previously handled , with nicks... most likely a return
$1889 to $1949 to $1999
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<< <i>
<< <i>With the ship date from the Mint changing to 9/27 I wonder if the greater chance of getting returns, missing a FS cutoff date, and possible price increase might suppress the sales going forward. >>
Coin club member got 2 that were not fresh, previously handled , with nicks... most likely a return >>
It's too soon for returns on these to have found their way back to the mint's shelf.
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<< <i>COUNTER UPDATE
38,861 up 1,304. Maybe because the price did not go up and remains at $1,740 >>
I suspect some of the big players will be placing further large orders now that demand is showing its pretty face.
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<< <i>Apparently very few 70's are going out on these. There are reports that SEVERAL are showing up to PCGS with spots and not meeting the minimum grade... >>
Does this mean that those who are planning in keeping their orders sealed should probably open it and check
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<< <i>Apparently very few 70's are going out on these. There are reports that SEVERAL are showing up to PCGS with spots and not meeting the minimum grade... >>
The ANA ones show a 70 population percentage similar to both ASE's (RP & Enh'd) at about 75% getting 70
<< <i>"ANA BUFFALO POPULATION REPORT
Just looked and these numbers are reported:
#520265 2013-W $50 American Buffalo Rev PR Chicago ANA 2013 - - 69 = 79, 70 = 215, total = 294
BTW, no regular (520050) or FS (520051) non ANA Buffalos are reported yet >>
<< <i>GM raised their RP prices again today on PCGS PR70FS.
$1889 to $1949 to $1999
GM Link >>
Early bird sure got the worm on these.
Seems the Black Diamond label is the most popular.
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<< <i>Apparently very few 70's are going out on these. There are reports that SEVERAL are showing up to PCGS with spots and not meeting the minimum grade... >>
Does this mean that those who are planning in keeping their orders sealed should probably open it and check
Not if they plan to sell them sealed which I suspect is the case for most who are keeping them sealed.
what color spots?
the few here that have seen them in person reported no spots. false rumor?
<< <i>$800 gold and now spots. Where are these << Apparently very few 70's are going out on these. There are reports that SEVERAL are showing up to PCGS with spots and not meeting the minimum grade... >> reports coming from? By whom? The same source as the $800 gold scare? >>
the $800 gold is a number spread by fools who didn't purchase the 2013 reverse gold .....$800 gold would mean the collapse of global economies.. forget it .I trade gold , silver futures
<< <i>
<< <i>$800 gold and now spots. Where are these << Apparently very few 70's are going out on these. There are reports that SEVERAL are showing up to PCGS with spots and not meeting the minimum grade... >> reports coming from? By whom? The same source as the $800 gold scare? >>
the $800 gold is a number spread by fools who didn't purchase the 2013 reverse gold .....$800 gold would mean the collapse of global economies.. forget it .I trade gold , silver futures >>
I agree....that was my point. Unfounded, unattributed scary rumor. "My uncles friends neighbor knows a guy who overheard a dealer talking with a customer about spots." And the population report shows 75% 70 grades. I know, that report doesn't account for any that didn't make the grade. But remember the estimates of the number of ANA buffalo's that went to PCGS and NGC? The totals in the pop. report fall in line with those estimates.
$800 gold sure looks possible after the last couple of days run up huh. So "minimal 70's and spots"? Rubbish.
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<< <i>I think these Chicago ANA PCGS coins are going to look cheap. Haven't read much talk about these lately, but almost all have been graded. As they had to be submitted at the ANA show to get this label So with only 230 of these grading a 70, that's about 20% of the 2,000 released.
Link >>
Coins came from the same dies and off the same mint shelves at the rest of them. Anyone paying more for them has been suckered into the label game.
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Especially with these ANA graded coins, knowing when the coin was released, where it was released and its grade makes a huge difference to its value and what someone is willing to pay...
Long Live Suckers!
<< <i>Like it or not labels do sell coins.
Especially with these ANA graded coins, knowing when the coin was released, where it was released and its grade makes a huge difference to its value and what someone is willing to pay...
Long Live Suckers! >>
The only thing about a label insert that sells a coin is the coin's authenticity, numerical grade and who determined both. What makes the ANA label worth more is having a buyer who thinks it is worth more or a buyer who thinks he can sell if for even more than he paid. Has nothing to do with the coin.
Two kinds of collectors:
(1) those who seriously collect for the joy they get from it
(2) those who buy in hopes of price growth so they can resell to serious collectors
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<< <i>Like it or not labels do sell coins. >>
And so does the U.S. Mint. They're just kind of slow with distribution, imo.
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<< <i>COUNTER UPDATE
38,861 up 1,304. Maybe because the price did not go up and remains at $1,740 >>
I suspect some of the big players will be placing further large orders now that demand is showing its pretty face. >>
If mintage remains under 50K (and the price of gold stays constant), I think we'll see some big orders the last couple of days of sale. That's generally been true for special issues, even the UHR.
Those Mint / PBGS people sure know how to foul up a wet dream. Next I'm expecting to see an expected Ship Date of 8/21/13 ! Just like the musical Ship Dates fiasco that went on with the West Point SAE sets.
Keep up the good work US Mint / PBGS, you people are true examples of hardworking competence. NOT !
Was hoping they'd ship before the 3 day weekend.
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<< <i>My 8/8 order has gone from a last expected ship date of 8/28 to an " in stock and reserved" with cancel box, today.
Those Mint / PBGS people sure know how to foul up a wet dream. Next I'm expecting to see an expected Ship Date of 8/21/13 ! Just like the musical Ship Dates fiasco that went on with the West Point SAE sets.
Keep up the good work US Mint / PBGS, you people are true examples of hardworking competence. NOT !
Well, after all, considering all of their products, it's not like they only have to worry about sending out three shipments a week.
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