<< <i>Not trying to be a kill joy but if I remember correctly, it caused some unrest among the collecting community, when the 06 Burnished was offered as a single. >>
Didn't they offer the 06 burnished before they offered the set? >>
after and shipping didn't end until about April of 07. price was $19.99 those were a very good flip.
So, for people who plan on flipping on ebay or who have in the past, do you just bite down and hope you don't get screwed? Or is there something that you do to prevent it?
<<So, for people who plan on flipping on ebay or who have in the past, do you just bite down and hope you don't get screwed? Or is there something that you do to prevent it?>>
Yes, there will be some that grit their teeth, or you could wait until MCM offers strong prices on the BST.
<< <i>I'm not very familiar with mint products, but do they have some kind of "tamper" seal or tape on the packaging? Could you just have a disclaimer on ebay saying this is a SEALED box from the mint, see pics. NO refunds? (especially if you are an established seller) >>
If you sell a sealed box on eBay [with the appropriate disclaimer/s] and the buyer opens it and claims the coins are damaged and files a SNAD, eBay/PP will find in their favor and expect YOU to accept a return. >>
If a seller buys my coins and I have a disclaimer in the listing AND I email them after the auction and say that I will not refund if they claim the box is empty and they agree, and have recorded weights, there is no way ebay or paypal would honor the buyer if they DID end up claiming it was empty.
Because to Err is Human. I specialize in Errors, Minting, Counterfeit Detection & Grading. Computer-aided grading, counterfeit detection, recognition and imaging.
<< <i><<So, for people who plan on flipping on ebay or who have in the past, do you just bite down and hope you don't get screwed? Or is there something that you do to prevent it?>>
Yes, there will be some that grit their teeth, or you could wait until MCM offers strong prices on the BST. >>
Ya, I'm a little reluctant to do the dealer thing since I have had so much experience with ebay...but this whole sealed thing is scaring me
<< <i>I'm not very familiar with mint products, but do they have some kind of "tamper" seal or tape on the packaging? Could you just have a disclaimer on ebay saying this is a SEALED box from the mint, see pics. NO refunds? (especially if you are an established seller) >>
If you sell a sealed box on eBay [with the appropriate disclaimer/s] and the buyer opens it and claims the coins are damaged and files a SNAD, eBay/PP will find in their favor and expect YOU to accept a return. >>
If a seller buys my coins and I have a disclaimer in the listing AND I email them after the auction and say that I will not refund if they claim the box is empty and they agree, and have recorded weights, there is no way ebay or paypal would honor the buyer if they DID end up claiming it was empty. >>
An empty box and damaged coins aren't the same. A board member here was forced to accept a return and loss of value/premium because the buyer opened the box, claimed the coins were damaged and eBay/PP ruled for the buyer.
From what I can tell most dealers are only paying about $60 over issue price right now. Sets selling for $150 over issue price presale on ebay. Even after fees you'll come out way ahead.
"If we are facing in the right direction, all we need to do is keep on walking." - David Brent
An empty box and damaged coins aren't the same. A board member here was forced to accept a return and loss of value/premium because the buyer opened the box, claimed the coins were damaged and eBay/PP ruled for the buyer. >>
That's not the norm though. I haven't sold a lot of coins on ebay, but I've had a lot of buyers "claim" things and get nowhere with the ebay/paypal battle. Typically, ebay and paypal are very good at protecting sellers, in my experience.
I just have no experience with the "sealed box" thing...that's why I was curious
As to keeping the 'sealed integrity' of the sets - does one need to leave in the original shipping cardboard box, or is each individual set packaged in a way that the outer cardboard box can be opened without causing problems in resale?
<< <i>As to keeping the 'sealed integrity' of the sets - does one need to leave in the original shipping cardboard box, or is each individual set packaged in a way that the outer cardboard box can be opened without causing problems in resale? >>
The United States Mint is offering a product for $299.95 with a limit of 5 sets per person, per household on Thursday, October 27, 2011, at noon ET at their website. Here is the link that describes the product:
U.S. Mint Product Listing
We are in need of several hundred of these, and as we have done in the past are willing to pay a premium for you and your friends and family to buy them for us. We will pay a total of $360.00 for each 5-coin set we receive provided the US Mint price remains at the expected $299.95. That is $60.05 over your cost of $299.95 per set of 5 coins. Since each household may purchase 5 sets that is a profit of $300.25 over your cost of $1499.75. The sets must be shipped to us within two business days from your receipt.
Please be advised in case of price changes, we will adjust our purchasing amount accordingly. If the price by the US Mint goes up, we will increase our purchasing price. If the price goes down, we will decrease our purchasing price.
The coin set(s) must be sent unopened in the original US Mint packaging or we will return the coins to you.
The boxes must remain sealed for two reasons:
1) No tampering of coins can take place 2) The grading services we use require the coins be sent to them in sealed outer boxes.
The shipper’s address on the package from the US Mint will appear as
PBGS, Plainfield IN 461268
and not as US Mint. PBGS is hired by the US Mint for fulfillment.
Insurance and shipping charges are your responsibility, unless you are selling us five or more sets. In that case, we will pay your actual shipping & insurance cost – not to exceed $35.00. Our payment to you mails by First Class within 48 hours of our receipt of the coin. Overnight payment is available upon request.
If you are interested in this opportunity, please respond to britta@moderncoinmart.com and she will then email you step by step instructions, otherwise you will not hear from us again about this opportunity.
Throughout the year opportunities like this present themselves and sometimes you can make a quick and easy profit. It isn’t too good to be true, it’s 100% real and quite simple to understand. When the U.S. Mint makes a product that has anticipated high demand and restricts the number that can be bought to everyone including dealers, we need your help. Why you say? Because we have 15,000 active customers that want new and exciting issues and aren’t willing to grade the coins themselves or wait months only to hope for the matched graded set they desired. We've been doing this now for years with no problems; it is straightforward and backed by our longstanding reputation.
Best Regards,
John Maben CEO, JMRC/ ModernCoinMart >>
Keep in mind, this offer was made via one of many "channels" we have. The offer we post on the BST, when we post it, may well be different. I will tell you that we agreed to pay one person $100 per set over cost simply because he committed 50 sets. Would we do that again? Maybe, maybe not. We evaluate the competition present in each channel to determine the price as well as how many we think we've already got that are "nearly" committed.
<< <i>How does that effect the value of the sets? >>
Because there are really only two key coins in the set (100,000 mintage). If the Mint offered these as singles, that would be a bomb! >>
Don't overlook the bullion coin. A 100,000 mintage with only a small percentage certified with the '25 Anniversary Set' label will be the real sleeper of the set, especially when then the bullion coin mintages are in the tens of millions. Just think of how the 2006-W Uncirulated NGC 20th anniversary set blue label insert from the 2-coin set sells for 2-3 times what the same coin the same coin with a black label from the 3-coin set sells for and 8-9 times what the same brown label coin sells for. Of course you have to send the sealed set in to be certified to have the 25th anniversary and be able to distinguish the coin from the regular bullion issue.
"Just think of how the 2006-W Uncirulated NGC 20th anniversary set blue label insert from the 2-coin set sells for 2-3 times what the same coin the same coin with a black label from the 3-coin set sells for and 8-9 times what the same brown label coin sells for. Of course you have to send the sealed set in to be certified to have the 25th anniversary and be able to distinguish the coin from the regular bullion issue."
Label nonsense will eventually bring down this hobby. When I can no longer distinguish between two coins, after they've been taken out of their slabs with colorful labels that bring almost 10x the premium, I have to ask "what is the point?"
And there is no point.
Jeeze, 3/4 of this thread is about nonsensical First strike, Early releases, and how to collect these things without ever opening the boxes.
Let's get back on track here. These things (the coins) are exciting! We've got another reverse proof and the first ever "S" uncirculated. The mintage blows away the 2006 anniversary sets.
Looks like a homerun on the horizon...
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
I have offered to try to pay MORE than ANY legit posted offers made on this coin forum and have done so all day. Since this thread now includes self-promotion type postings, I might as well post my (self-promotion) comment as well. Although, with all due respect, this is NOT the place for self-promotion type postings and I hope that can continue to only take place on the BST board, where it belongs.
Wondercoin
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<< <i>"Just think of how the 2006-W Uncirulated NGC 20th anniversary set blue label insert from the 2-coin set sells for 2-3 times what the same coin the same coin with a black label from the 3-coin set sells for and 8-9 times what the same brown label coin sells for. Of course you have to send the sealed set in to be certified to have the 25th anniversary and be able to distinguish the coin from the regular bullion issue."
Label nonsense will eventually bring down this hobby. When I can no longer distinguish between two coins, after they've been taken out of their slabs with colorful labels that bring almost 10x the premium, I have to ask "what is the point?"
And there is no point.
Jeeze, 3/4 of this thread is about nonsensical First strike, Early releases, and how to collect these things without ever opening the boxes.
Let's get back on track here. These things (the coins) are exciting! We've got another reverse proof and the first ever "S" uncirculated. The mintage blows away the 2006 anniversary sets.
Looks like a homerun on the horizon... >>
And to complicate things the bullion coin comes from two places, West Point and San Francisco mints. Can't tell those coins apart either. So far by my count there is a 25th Anniversary coin, a West Point no mint mark, a San Fran no mint mark and now 25th anniversary SET coins which are all the same coin.
I concur with your points above. When it comes out of the slab and you can't tell the difference it is crazy nuts.
An empty box and damaged coins aren't the same. A board member here was forced to accept a return and loss of value/premium because the buyer opened the box, claimed the coins were damaged and eBay/PP ruled for the buyer. >>
That's not the norm though. I haven't sold a lot of coins on ebay, but I've had a lot of buyers "claim" things and get nowhere with the ebay/paypal battle. Typically, ebay and paypal are very good at protecting sellers, in my experience.
I just have no experience with the "sealed box" thing...that's why I was curious >>
In the only instance of that scenario posted here that I can recall, eBay/PP ruled for the buyer.
<< <i>"Just think of how the 2006-W Uncirulated NGC 20th anniversary set blue label insert from the 2-coin set sells for 2-3 times what the same coin the same coin with a black label from the 3-coin set sells for and 8-9 times what the same brown label coin sells for. Of course you have to send the sealed set in to be certified to have the 25th anniversary and be able to distinguish the coin from the regular bullion issue."
Label nonsense will eventually bring down this hobby. When I can no longer distinguish between two coins, after they've been taken out of their slabs with colorful labels that bring almost 10x the premium, I have to ask "what is the point?"
And there is no point.
Jeeze, 3/4 of this thread is about nonsensical First strike, Early releases, and how to collect these things without ever opening the boxes.
Let's get back on track here. These things (the coins) are exciting! We've got another reverse proof and the first ever "S" uncirculated. The mintage blows away the 2006 anniversary sets.
Looks like a homerun on the horizon... >>
Apparently pedigree's do matter to some, as I was merely pointing out. Case in point, all the same 2006-W NGC MS70 Silver Eagle coin with three different labels and three very different prices realized:
If you are purchasing some sets for resale, as many on this forum are (as I doubt many people have a need for 5 sets for collecting purposes), to ignore this fact would be silly. Of course the set set has tremendous collector appeal either way.
<< <i>How does that effect the value of the sets? >>
Because there are really only two key coins in the set (100,000 mintage). If the Mint offered these as singles, that would be a bomb! >>
Don't overlook the bullion coin. A 100,000 mintage with only a small percentage certified with the '25 Anniversary Set' label will be the real sleeper of the set.. >>
Right now on eBay there are no less than (32) 1995 W ASE's, virtually no bids, the king of ASE's at 30K. I wonder when the day will come when you might only see say (2) for sale with 10+ bidders each? Perhaps the king of ASE's is over-priced. I can purchase a couple of very cool 1795 silver half dollars for that price.
With all of this in mind, I'd hate to predict how many of these 25th anniversary sets will be for sale on eBay in 2016. --aap
The safest thing would be to place individual single set orders. Unfortunately, that could take all day, and if most of those getting through are ordering 5 sets to your one, this could be you at the end of the day:
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."
<< <i>The safest thing would be to place individual single set orders. Unfortunately, that could take all day, and if most of those getting through are ordering 5 sets to your one, this could be you at the end of the day:
<< <i>I never see a sealed silver 20th Anniversary Set for sale anymore. I plan on saving some of these 25th Anniversary sets sealed for a long time. >>
I sold a set of 5 earlier this year to a forum member. They are still out there. I sold mine but wasn't actively trying to sell it. It just kind of happened. I still have a single, sealed, set left...and a couple of slabbed/raw sets.
I will likely keep a few of the 25th for awhile as well.
<< <i>How does that effect the value of the sets? >>
Because there are really only two key coins in the set (100,000 mintage). If the Mint offered these as singles, that would be a bomb! >>
Don't overlook the bullion coin. A 100,000 mintage with only a small percentage certified with the '25 Anniversary Set' label will be the real sleeper of the set.. >>
Right now on eBay there are no less than (32) 1995 W ASE's, virtually no bids, the king of ASE's at 30K. I wonder when the day will come when you might only see say (2) for sale with 10+ bidders each? Perhaps the king of ASE's is over-priced. I can purchase a couple of very cool 1795 silver half dollars for that price.
With all of this in mind, I'd hate to predict how many of these 25th anniversary sets will be for sale on eBay in 2016. --aap >>
Not a very honest interpretation of what is happening with the 1995 W ASE on ebay. Most of these on ebay are available only as BIN. You wouldn't see any bids for these since they would be removed from active sales. Many of the other 1995 W's that are actually up for auction have bids. Several have sold in the last few days.
<< <i>I never see a sealed silver 20th Anniversary Set for sale anymore. I plan on saving some of these 25th Anniversary sets sealed for a long time. >>
I still have a few incremental sealed sets (from 3-10 sets per) and plan on keepin em that a way!
Ditto for the AGE & APE for that wondorous year!! Here comes a small repeat.
<< <i>I predict a 1000 posts before Thursday noon. >>
There may be 1000 threads covering the subject by Thursday noon. MJ
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Prediction, you guys will be driving yourselves crazy trying to get your orders in right away... will maybe get confirmed orders by 1-2pm EDT... meanwhile, I'll wait until 3-4pm EDT and it'll take me only a couple of minutes to get my order in... and I'll end up getting my coins shipped to me first That's pretty much how it went down when ordering the UHRs when they came out!!!
<< <i>Prediction, you guys will be driving yourselves crazy trying to get your orders in right away... will maybe get confirmed orders by 1-2pm EDT... meanwhile, I'll wait until 3-4pm EDT and it'll take me only a couple of minutes to get my order in... and I'll end up getting my coins shipped to me first That's pretty much how it went down when ordering the UHRs when they came out!!! >>
<< <i>Prediction, you guys will be driving yourselves crazy trying to get your orders in right away... will maybe get confirmed orders by 1-2pm EDT... meanwhile, I'll wait until 3-4pm EDT and it'll take me only a couple of minutes to get my order in... and I'll end up getting my coins shipped to me first That's pretty much how it went down when ordering the UHRs when they came out!!! >>
I will be on 12 PM. Don't care how slow. Decided to buy single sets. Taking a big chance though. These will be gone sooner than you think. Silver approaching $34. Hope they don't pull these. Though I think they built this into the price with possbilility in the rise of silver already. $299 is steep.
Hi guys. I just recently started getting into coins, found a box of them that my grandfather left for me. I was wondering if this would be a good item for my first coin purchase. From what I am reading it will hold its value pretty well and also be an investment just because of silver prices these days. I am planning to try and buy one set to collect and keep for my son when he is old enough to have them. Is there any way to go wrong by purchasing one set?
It seems like they don't reprice silver unless absolutely necessary. Most of their Ag offerings are of the collector version with a comfortable margin built in. If sales languish, they might reprice to move inventory. I wonder if they would raise prices after they take your order, but before they take your payment.
For those of you predicting a quick 1 day sell out...well, it's not going to happen. 1) US Mint's server is unable to handle that type of volume for it to happen. 2) PBGS does not have the number or order takers to accommodate that type of volume either.
My guess...1 week or more.
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
<< <i>For those of you predicting a quick 1 day sell out...well, it's not going to happen. 1) US Mint's server is unable to handle that type of volume for it to happen. 2) PBGS does not have the number or order takers to accommodate that type of volume either.
My guess...1 week or more. >>
I'm guessing most orders will be for five sets so it won't take that long to process 30,000 orders, give or take a few thousand orders.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Is there any way to go wrong by purchasing one set?
Possibly. I'd be concerned if I was planning a vacation over the holidays and had no secure place for mail to arrive. At some apartments, packages are left on the doorstep. I wouldn't want a $300 package left in plain sight for 4 or 5 days while I was on vacation.
<< <i>Is there any way to go wrong by purchasing one set?
Possibly. I'd be concerned if I was planning a vacation over the holidays and had no secure place for mail to arrive. At some apartments, packages are left on the doorstep. I wouldn't want a $300 package left in plain sight for 4 or 5 days while I was on vacation. >>
Thats me I have 1 hr to get thru than have to drive to chicago catch a plane to long beach and was planning on staying till dec. My brother will be here on and off and of course I told him he has to be here when it comes. But if he misses it I do not believe he can go sign for them at the post office so I am kinda worried about it. Not much I can do, just hope he is here to sign.....Enjoy
<< <i>Is there any way to go wrong by purchasing one set?
Possibly. I'd be concerned if I was planning a vacation over the holidays and had no secure place for mail to arrive. At some apartments, packages are left on the doorstep. I wouldn't want a $300 package left in plain sight for 4 or 5 days while I was on vacation. >>
I'm sure they will be sent UPS Next Day Air...sig required
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<< <i>Not trying to be a kill joy but if I remember correctly, it caused some unrest
among the collecting community, when the 06 Burnished was offered as a single. >>
Didn't they offer the 06 burnished before they offered the set? >>
after and shipping didn't end until about April of 07. price was $19.99 those were a very good flip.
Yes, there will be some that grit their teeth, or you could wait until MCM offers strong prices on the BST.
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<< <i>I'm not very familiar with mint products, but do they have some kind of "tamper" seal or tape on the packaging?
Could you just have a disclaimer on ebay saying this is a SEALED box from the mint, see pics. NO refunds?
(especially if you are an established seller) >>
If you sell a sealed box on eBay [with the appropriate disclaimer/s] and the buyer opens it and claims the coins are damaged and files a SNAD, eBay/PP will find in their favor and expect YOU to accept a return. >>
If a seller buys my coins and I have a disclaimer in the listing AND I email them after the auction and say that I will not refund if they claim the box is empty and they agree, and have recorded weights, there is no way ebay or paypal would honor the buyer if they DID end up claiming it was empty.
I specialize in Errors, Minting, Counterfeit Detection & Grading.
Computer-aided grading, counterfeit detection, recognition and imaging.
<< <i><<So, for people who plan on flipping on ebay or who have in the past, do you just bite down and hope you don't get screwed? Or is there something that you do to prevent it?>>
Yes, there will be some that grit their teeth, or you could wait until MCM offers strong prices on the BST. >>
Ya, I'm a little reluctant to do the dealer thing since I have had so much experience with ebay...but this whole sealed thing is scaring me
Clean sale, no hassles, no fees, no BS.
EDIT: More than likely there will be plenty of BSTers buying and selling after the 27th.
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<< <i>I'm not very familiar with mint products, but do they have some kind of "tamper" seal or tape on the packaging?
Could you just have a disclaimer on ebay saying this is a SEALED box from the mint, see pics. NO refunds?
(especially if you are an established seller) >>
If you sell a sealed box on eBay [with the appropriate disclaimer/s] and the buyer opens it and claims the coins are damaged and files a SNAD, eBay/PP will find in their favor and expect YOU to accept a return. >>
If a seller buys my coins and I have a disclaimer in the listing AND I email them after the auction and say that I will not refund if they claim the box is empty and they agree, and have recorded weights, there is no way ebay or paypal would honor the buyer if they DID end up claiming it was empty. >>
An empty box and damaged coins aren't the same. A board member here was forced to accept a return and loss of value/premium because the buyer opened the box, claimed the coins were damaged and eBay/PP ruled for the buyer.
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An empty box and damaged coins aren't the same. A board member here was forced to accept a return and loss of value/premium because the buyer opened the box, claimed the coins were damaged and eBay/PP ruled for the buyer. >>
That's not the norm though. I haven't sold a lot of coins on ebay, but I've had a lot of buyers "claim" things and get nowhere with the ebay/paypal battle. Typically, ebay and paypal are very good at protecting sellers, in my experience.
I just have no experience with the "sealed box" thing...that's why I was curious
I know there were many sellers dealing with issues when we went to flip our 2010 ATB sets.
Loves me some shiny!
<< <i>As to keeping the 'sealed integrity' of the sets - does one need to leave in the original shipping cardboard box, or is each individual set packaged in a way that the outer cardboard box can be opened without causing problems in resale? >>
Need to keep whole box sealed. Open nothing.
<< <i>The gauntlet has been thrown down:
Dear ModernCoinMart/ JMRC Inc Customer,
The United States Mint is offering a product for $299.95 with a limit of 5 sets per person, per household on Thursday, October 27, 2011, at noon ET at their website. Here is the link that describes the product:
U.S. Mint Product Listing
We are in need of several hundred of these, and as we have done in the past are willing to pay a premium for you and your friends and family to buy them for us. We will pay a total of $360.00 for each 5-coin set we receive provided the US Mint price remains at the expected $299.95. That is $60.05 over your cost of $299.95 per set of 5 coins. Since each household may purchase 5 sets that is a profit of $300.25 over your cost of $1499.75. The sets must be shipped to us within two business days from your receipt.
Please be advised in case of price changes, we will adjust our purchasing amount accordingly. If the price by the US Mint goes up, we will increase our purchasing price. If the price goes down, we will decrease our purchasing price.
The coin set(s) must be sent unopened in the original US Mint packaging or we will return the coins to you.
The boxes must remain sealed for two reasons:
1) No tampering of coins can take place
2) The grading services we use require the coins be sent to them in sealed outer boxes.
The shipper’s address on the package from the US Mint will appear as
PBGS, Plainfield IN 461268
and not as US Mint. PBGS is hired by the US Mint for fulfillment.
Insurance and shipping charges are your responsibility, unless you are selling us five or more sets. In that case, we will pay your actual shipping & insurance cost – not to exceed $35.00. Our payment to you mails by First Class within 48 hours of our receipt of the coin. Overnight payment is available upon request.
If you are interested in this opportunity, please respond to britta@moderncoinmart.com and she will then email you step by step instructions, otherwise you will not hear from us again about this opportunity.
Throughout the year opportunities like this present themselves and sometimes you can make a quick and easy profit. It isn’t too good to be true, it’s 100% real and quite simple to understand. When the U.S. Mint makes a product that has anticipated high demand and restricts the number that can be bought to everyone including dealers, we need your help. Why you say? Because we have 15,000 active customers that want new and exciting issues and aren’t willing to grade the coins themselves or wait months only to hope for the matched graded set they desired. We've been doing this now for years with no problems; it is straightforward and backed by our longstanding reputation.
Best Regards,
John Maben
CEO, JMRC/ ModernCoinMart >>
Keep in mind, this offer was made via one of many "channels" we have. The offer we post on the BST, when we post it, may well be different. I will tell you that we agreed to pay one person $100 per set over cost simply because he committed 50 sets. Would we do that again? Maybe, maybe not. We evaluate the competition present in each channel to determine the price as well as how many we think we've already got that are "nearly" committed.
John
John
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<< <i>How does that effect the value of the sets? >>
Because there are really only two key coins in the set (100,000 mintage). If the Mint offered these as singles, that would be a bomb! >>
Don't overlook the bullion coin. A 100,000 mintage with only a small percentage certified with the '25 Anniversary Set' label will be the real sleeper of the set, especially when then the bullion coin mintages are in the tens of millions. Just think of how the 2006-W Uncirulated NGC 20th anniversary set blue label insert from the 2-coin set sells for 2-3 times what the same coin the same coin with a black label from the 3-coin set sells for and 8-9 times what the same brown label coin sells for. Of course you have to send the sealed set in to be certified to have the 25th anniversary and be able to distinguish the coin from the regular bullion issue.
Label nonsense will eventually bring down this hobby. When I can no longer distinguish between two coins, after they've been taken out of their slabs with colorful labels that bring almost 10x the premium, I have to ask "what is the point?"
And there is no point.
Jeeze, 3/4 of this thread is about nonsensical First strike, Early releases, and how to collect these things without ever opening the boxes.
Let's get back on track here. These things (the coins) are exciting! We've got another reverse proof and the first ever "S" uncirculated. The mintage blows away the 2006 anniversary sets.
Looks like a homerun on the horizon...
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
Wondercoin
<< <i>"Just think of how the 2006-W Uncirulated NGC 20th anniversary set blue label insert from the 2-coin set sells for 2-3 times what the same coin the same coin with a black label from the 3-coin set sells for and 8-9 times what the same brown label coin sells for. Of course you have to send the sealed set in to be certified to have the 25th anniversary and be able to distinguish the coin from the regular bullion issue."
Label nonsense will eventually bring down this hobby. When I can no longer distinguish between two coins, after they've been taken out of their slabs with colorful labels that bring almost 10x the premium, I have to ask "what is the point?"
And there is no point.
Jeeze, 3/4 of this thread is about nonsensical First strike, Early releases, and how to collect these things without ever opening the boxes.
Let's get back on track here. These things (the coins) are exciting! We've got another reverse proof and the first ever "S" uncirculated. The mintage blows away the 2006 anniversary sets.
Looks like a homerun on the horizon... >>
And to complicate things the bullion coin comes from two places, West Point and San Francisco mints. Can't tell those coins apart either. So far by my count there is a 25th Anniversary coin, a West Point no mint mark, a San Fran no mint mark and now 25th anniversary SET coins which are all the same coin.
I concur with your points above. When it comes out of the slab and you can't tell the difference it is crazy nuts.
John
Never view my other linked pages. They aren't coin related.
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An empty box and damaged coins aren't the same. A board member here was forced to accept a return and loss of value/premium because the buyer opened the box, claimed the coins were damaged and eBay/PP ruled for the buyer. >>
That's not the norm though. I haven't sold a lot of coins on ebay, but I've had a lot of buyers "claim" things and get nowhere with the ebay/paypal battle. Typically, ebay and paypal are very good at protecting sellers, in my experience.
I just have no experience with the "sealed box" thing...that's why I was curious >>
In the only instance of that scenario posted here that I can recall, eBay/PP ruled for the buyer.
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<< <i>"Just think of how the 2006-W Uncirulated NGC 20th anniversary set blue label insert from the 2-coin set sells for 2-3 times what the same coin the same coin with a black label from the 3-coin set sells for and 8-9 times what the same brown label coin sells for. Of course you have to send the sealed set in to be certified to have the 25th anniversary and be able to distinguish the coin from the regular bullion issue."
Label nonsense will eventually bring down this hobby. When I can no longer distinguish between two coins, after they've been taken out of their slabs with colorful labels that bring almost 10x the premium, I have to ask "what is the point?"
And there is no point.
Jeeze, 3/4 of this thread is about nonsensical First strike, Early releases, and how to collect these things without ever opening the boxes.
Let's get back on track here. These things (the coins) are exciting! We've got another reverse proof and the first ever "S" uncirculated. The mintage blows away the 2006 anniversary sets.
Looks like a homerun on the horizon... >>
Apparently pedigree's do matter to some, as I was merely pointing out. Case in point, all the same 2006-W NGC MS70 Silver Eagle coin with three different labels and three very different prices realized:
2006 W $1 NGC MS70 20TH ANNIVERSARY SILVER EAGLE BLUE $1,101.00
2006 W-NGC- MS 70 20TH ANNIVERSARY SILVER EAGLE BLACK LABEL RARE NEW COIN HOLDER $728.01
★★★★ 2006 W Silver Eagle $1 NGC MS70 70 Burnished NO SPOTS NO TONING ★★★★ $177.50
If you are purchasing some sets for resale, as many on this forum are (as I doubt many people have a need for 5 sets for collecting purposes), to ignore this fact would be silly. Of course the set set has tremendous collector appeal either way.
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<< <i>How does that effect the value of the sets? >>
Because there are really only two key coins in the set (100,000 mintage). If the Mint offered these as singles, that would be a bomb! >>
Don't overlook the bullion coin. A 100,000 mintage with only a small percentage certified with the '25 Anniversary Set' label will be the real sleeper of the set.. >>
Right now on eBay there are no less than (32) 1995 W ASE's, virtually no bids, the king of ASE's at 30K. I wonder when the day will come when you might only see say (2) for sale with 10+ bidders each? Perhaps the king of ASE's is over-priced. I can purchase a couple of very cool 1795 silver half dollars for that price.
With all of this in mind, I'd hate to predict how many of these 25th anniversary sets will be for sale on eBay in 2016. --aap
There are so many different angles to consider here it's making my head hurt.
And here's another one:
A presale for a single coin - an ungraded S unc.
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<< <i>There are so many different angles to consider here it's making my head hurt.
And here's another one:
A presale for a single coin - an ungraded S unc. >>
Tell me about it! I am just going to buy a bunch and hope for the best
<< <i>Don't worry comma. If you want to sell a few sets on eBay, just follow the rules and 99.9% of the time you'll be fine. >>
That's what I figured...I just tend to be overly paranoid when it comes to stuff like this...
The safest thing would be to place individual single set orders. Unfortunately, that could take all day, and if most
of those getting through are ordering 5 sets to your one, this could be you at the end of the day:
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."
~ Vince Lombardi
<< <i>The safest thing would be to place individual single set orders. Unfortunately, that could take all day, and if most
of those getting through are ordering 5 sets to your one, this could be you at the end of the day:
<< <i>I never see a sealed silver 20th Anniversary Set for sale anymore. I plan on saving some of these 25th Anniversary sets sealed for a long time. >>
I sold a set of 5 earlier this year to a forum member. They are still out there. I sold mine but wasn't actively trying to sell it. It just kind of happened.
I still have a single, sealed, set left...and a couple of slabbed/raw sets.
I will likely keep a few of the 25th for awhile as well.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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<< <i>How does that effect the value of the sets? >>
Because there are really only two key coins in the set (100,000 mintage). If the Mint offered these as singles, that would be a bomb! >>
Don't overlook the bullion coin. A 100,000 mintage with only a small percentage certified with the '25 Anniversary Set' label will be the real sleeper of the set.. >>
Right now on eBay there are no less than (32) 1995 W ASE's, virtually no bids, the king of ASE's at 30K. I wonder when the day will come when you might only see say (2) for sale with 10+ bidders each? Perhaps the king of ASE's is over-priced. I can purchase a couple of very cool 1795 silver half dollars for that price.
With all of this in mind, I'd hate to predict how many of these 25th anniversary sets will be for sale on eBay in 2016. --aap >>
Not a very honest interpretation of what is happening with the 1995 W ASE on ebay. Most of these on ebay are available only as BIN. You wouldn't see any bids for these since they would be removed from active sales. Many of the other 1995 W's that are actually up for auction have bids. Several have sold in the last few days.
<< <i>I never see a sealed silver 20th Anniversary Set for sale anymore. I plan on saving some of these 25th Anniversary sets sealed for a long time. >>
I still have a few incremental sealed sets (from 3-10 sets per) and plan on keepin em that a way!
Ditto for the AGE & APE for that wondorous year!! Here comes a small repeat.
Miles
<< <i>I predict a 1000 posts before Thursday noon. >>
There may be 1000 threads covering the subject by Thursday noon. MJ
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<< <i>Prediction, you guys will be driving yourselves crazy trying to get your orders in right away... will maybe get confirmed orders by 1-2pm EDT... meanwhile, I'll wait until 3-4pm EDT and it'll take me only a couple of minutes to get my order in... and I'll end up getting my coins shipped to me first
SPOT ON! The mint's logic illudes and mystifies!
<< <i>Prediction, you guys will be driving yourselves crazy trying to get your orders in right away... will maybe get confirmed orders by 1-2pm EDT... meanwhile, I'll wait until 3-4pm EDT and it'll take me only a couple of minutes to get my order in... and I'll end up getting my coins shipped to me first
Thanks for the tip. I think i will follow this...
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before the mint reprices silver?
and on what day do they do this?
<< <i>how much does the spot price have to change
before the mint reprices silver?
and on what day do they do this? >>
It seems like they don't reprice silver unless absolutely necessary. Most of their Ag offerings are of the collector version with a comfortable margin built in. If sales languish, they might reprice to move inventory. I wonder if they would raise prices after they take your order, but before they take your payment.
1) US Mint's server is unable to handle that type of volume for it to happen.
2) PBGS does not have the number or order takers to accommodate that type of volume either.
My guess...1 week or more.
<< <i>For those of you predicting a quick 1 day sell out...well, it's not going to happen.
1) US Mint's server is unable to handle that type of volume for it to happen.
2) PBGS does not have the number or order takers to accommodate that type of volume either.
My guess...1 week or more. >>
I'm guessing most orders will be for five sets so it won't take that long to process 30,000 orders, give or take a few thousand orders.
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Possibly. I'd be concerned if I was planning a vacation over the holidays and had no secure place for mail to arrive. At some apartments, packages are left on the doorstep. I wouldn't want a $300 package left in plain sight for 4 or 5 days while I was on vacation.
<< <i>Is there any way to go wrong by purchasing one set?
Possibly. I'd be concerned if I was planning a vacation over the holidays and had no secure place for mail to arrive. At some apartments, packages are left on the doorstep. I wouldn't want a $300 package left in plain sight for 4 or 5 days while I was on vacation. >>
Thats me I have 1 hr to get thru than have to drive to chicago catch a plane to long beach and was planning on staying till dec. My brother will be here on and off and of course I told him he has to be here when it comes. But if he misses it I do not believe he can go sign for them at the post office so I am kinda worried about it. Not much I can do, just hope he is here to sign.....Enjoy
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thats 150k sets
<< <i>Is there any way to go wrong by purchasing one set?
Possibly. I'd be concerned if I was planning a vacation over the holidays and had no secure place for mail to arrive. At some apartments, packages are left on the doorstep. I wouldn't want a $300 package left in plain sight for 4 or 5 days while I was on vacation. >>
I'm sure they will be sent UPS Next Day Air...sig required