<< <i>D-men, but don't overlook Mark Howe's time in the WHA as a forward. Remember, that's not an error on the front where it says LW. >>
I was born in the late 70's so always associate him with the Flyers, and playing D. If his first 5 years would have been in the NHL it's likely he would be a 1k point player.
<< <i>D-men, but don't overlook Mark Howe's time in the WHA as a forward. Remember, that's not an error on the front where it says LW. >>
I was born in the late 70's so always associate him with the Flyers, and playing D. If his first 5 years would have been in the NHL it's likely he would be a 1k point player. >>
Nice cards - particularly like the 59 Richard. Why do PSA and Beckett recognize the 75-76 Mark Howe card as his rookie. Why is it not 1974-75 OPC WHA card #1 the Howes?
<< <i>Nice cards - particularly like the 59 Richard. Why do PSA and Beckett recognize the 75-76 Mark Howe card as his rookie. Why is it not 1974-75 OPC WHA card #1 the Howes? >>
Good question, I agree it should be The Howes card. Love that card, it's reflects a real interesting period in hockey.
I think that the 74 OPC WHA Howe family card is considered in the same vein as league leader or special interest cards (think Fleer baseball subsets in the 80's). It isn't as clear cut, though, since OPC wasn't smart enough to have additional stand alone cards for each of the Howe's in the 74 set. I hadn't really ever thought that Mark Howe's rookie could be this card, but perhaps over time it will be considered as such.
And by the way, how on earth was Gordie Howe not the captain of the 1974 Houston Aeros? Was Dit Clapper or Howie Morenz on that team???
<< <i>I think that the 74 OPC WHA Howe family card is considered in the same vein as league leader or special interest cards (think Fleer baseball subsets in the 80's). It isn't as clear cut, though, since OPC wasn't smart enough to have additional stand alone cards for each of the Howe's in the 74 set. I hadn't really ever thought that Mark Howe's rookie could be this card, but perhaps over time it will be considered as such.
Here's mine: >>
Beauty. I've been looking for a good raw copy to sub for a while but most are pretty beat up.
<< <i>Nice cards - particularly like the 59 Richard. Why do PSA and Beckett recognize the 75-76 Mark Howe card as his rookie. Why is it not 1974-75 OPC WHA card #1 the Howes? >>
Good question, I agree it should be The Howes card. Love that card, it's reflects a real interesting period in hockey. >>
Interesting question about the Mark Howe rookie.
The 74-75 card is titled "The Howes" I believe, with the emphasis on the Howe family. Just as the 1954 Jacques Plante In Action cards (Mr. Zero, etc) are focused on something other then Jacques.
Whereas the 1973 Mike Schmidt rookie (tri-players like the Howes) is labeled as "Rookie 3rd Basemen"
I believe if the 74-75 WHA Howe card was labeled "Howe Senior and Rooks", then perhaps it would be recognized as Mark and Marty's rookie card. The title of the card has historically had some effect on the rookie denomination.
<< <i>Nice cards - particularly like the 59 Richard. Why do PSA and Beckett recognize the 75-76 Mark Howe card as his rookie. Why is it not 1974-75 OPC WHA card #1 the Howes? >>
Good question, I agree it should be The Howes card. Love that card, it's reflects a real interesting period in hockey. >>
Interesting question about the Mark Howe rookie.
The 74-75 card is titled "The Howes" I believe, with the emphasis on the Howe family. Just as the 1954 Jacques Plante In Action cards (Mr. Zero, etc) are focused on something other then Jacques.
Whereas the 1973 Mike Schmidt rookie (tri-players like the Howes) is labeled as "Rookie 3rd Basemen"
I believe if the 74-75 WHA Howe card was labeled "Howe Senior and Rooks", then perhaps it would be recognized as Mark and Marty's rookie card. The title of the card has historically had some effect on the rookie denomination. >>
The 1954 In Action cards w/ Plante (#'s 97, 98, 99) are a great comparison (though I disagree w/ Parkhurst on #97 since Mr. Zero is Frank Brimsek), as is the Schmidt example as you present it.
Well, it wasn't cheap, but I finally managed to find myself a 1978 Finnish SM-Liiga Jari Kurri. From my perspective, definitely one of the toughest European issue hockey cards out there. I'll get some scans after it arrives.
<< <i>Well, it wasn't cheap, but I finally managed to find myself a 1978 Finnish SM-Liiga Jari Kurri. From my perspective, definitely one of the toughest European issue hockey cards out there. I'll get some scans after it arrives. >>
Congrats on the pickup. I hope I am not stealing your thunder, the card is hard enough to obtain, but this unopened sheet would be a white whale to say the least (pics of front & back; Kurri on bottom right, not mine but it is floating around the world somewhere):
<< <i>Well, it wasn't cheap, but I finally managed to find myself a 1978 Finnish SM-Liiga Jari Kurri. From my perspective, definitely one of the toughest European issue hockey cards out there. I'll get some scans after it arrives. >>
Thanks. It looks better in hand than on the scans posted. I'm happy and surprised to see such great centering and sharp corners on a European 70's hand-cut issue. It is in Newport Beach now but I'll be interested to see their take on it. I'm really hoping they don't N9 me.
First time in 8 years of a saved search that i've seen one on ebay. interesting that the back is different than the scans posted in this thread so there was different, perhaps random placements on the sheet. tape and all!: 1978 Kurri
<< <i>First time in 8 years of a saved search that i've seen one on ebay. interesting that the back is different than the scans posted in this thread so there was different, perhaps random placements on the sheet. tape and all!: 1978 Kurri >>
Went for $100 in fair/poor condition. Makes me thinks miwlvrn got a steal ;-)
Been a while and I have been on a tear. I have kind of been sitting on a few of these but I went "Current" crazy and happy I did. I picked up most of these for well below what I think they should have went for, but I am just a crazy hockey nut right now. My next purchase WILL be a Gretzky OPC RC though, how long it takes to pull the trigger on one is the question. I was kinda bummed when I got the Perry cause I didn't see the smear, but it's not too bad. I love that set and have the Getzlaf, Richards, Carter, and Suter RC's on the way. All ungraded cards will be going to PSA soon along with the BGS cards into PSA holders when I get my "Thick Cards" re-holdered with the new PSA holders. Sorry for the Huge Scans and dust. Getting a new scanner soon hopefully.
1 of 2 with no 10's. Will post scan when it arrives.
some others of note: MINT 9 1979 PANINI STICKERS 141 VJACHESLAV FETISOV MINT 9 1998 QUEBEC PEE-WEE TOURNAMENT 109 PATRICE BERGERON MINT 9 1999 QUEBEC PEE-WEE TOURNAMENT 1185 RYAN CALLAHAN MINT 9 1988 PANINI STICKERS 301 BRIAN LEETCH MINT 9 1990 PROCARDS AHL/NHL 409 DOMINIK HASEK EXCELLENT 5 1981 INDIANAPOLIS CHECKERS KELLY HRUDEY (not an easy set to find so figured get it graded anyway to get it on the map) NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 SASKATOON BLADES 8 WENDEL CLARK NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 KELOWNA WINGS 43 CAM NEELY NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 PANINI STICKERS 84 PETER STASTNY NEAR MINT 7 1986 KAMLOOPS BLAZERS PERFORATED MARK RECCHI (always a crapshoot when having perforated cards and/or stickers graded. head-scratcher as it has dead perfect centering and appeared headed for 9 or 10) MINT 9 1986 KAMLOOPS BLAZERS PERFORATED KAMLOOPS BLAZERS TEAM (came from same set as the Recchi)
Just got this one back from PSA. It's actually the Tembec version. I'm happy with the grade, disappointed that PSA didn't make the Tembec distinction on the label. Anyone else ever attempt to grade one of the 89/90 OPC Tembecs with PSA?
The "Tembec" version was printed on a different card stock than standard. The back is whiter and the front seems to have more vivid color. From what I've read, around 100 copies were produced for 132 of the cards (only 1 sheet). I think of it as being similar to the 1990 Donruss Aqueous set.
Some off the beaten path poppage. Will post scans when they arrive.
22190524 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1979 OILERS POSTCARDS MARK MESSIER 22190527 MINT 9 OC 1980 OSHAWA GENERALS POLICE 7 DAVE ANDREYCHUK 22190523 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 NORTH STARS POSTCARDS DINO CICCARELLI 22190521 MINT 9 1981 OILERS RED ROOSTER 17 JARI KURRI RED ROOSTER 22190520 MINT 9 1981 OILERS RED ROOSTER 7 PAUL COFFEY RED ROOSTER 22190501 MINT 9 1981 OILERS RED ROOSTER 99 WAYNE GRETZKY LONG HAIR 22190510 EXCELLENT 5 1981 SAULT STE. MARIE GREYHOUNDS JOHN VANBIESBROUCK 22190509 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 SAULT STE. MARIE GREYHOUNDS RON FRANCIS 22190490 MINT 9 OC 1982 BRANDON WHEAT KINGS 23 RON HEXTALL 22190528 GEM MINT 10 1982 KITCHENER RANGERS 17 ALLAN MacINNIS 22190512 GEM MINT 10 1982 OTTAWA 67'S DARREN PANG 22190515 MINT 9 1982 OTTAWA 67'S GARY ROBERTS 22190517 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 REGINA PATS 8 STU GRIMSON 22190479 MINT 9 1982 VICTORIA COUGARS GRANT FUHR 22190494 MINT 9 1982 VICTORIA COUGARS RUSS COURTNALL 22190496 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 BRANDON WHEAT KINGS 20 RAY FERRARO 22190508 MINT 9 1983 BRANTFORD ALEXANDERS 2 SHAYNE CORSON 22190507 GEM MINT 10 1983 BRANTFORD ALEXANDERS 3 BOB PROBERT 22190495 MINT 9 1983 CANADIAN NATIONAL JUNIORS PAT VERBEEK 22190492 MINT 9 1983 SASKATOON BLADES 22 JOEY KOCUR 22190493 GEM MINT 10 1983 SASKATOON BLADES 8 WENDEL CLARK 22190525 NEAR MINT 7 1985 CANADIENS POSTCARDS PATRICK ROY 22190526 MINT 9 1987 SABRES WONDER BREAD/HOSTESS PERFORATED PIERRE TURGEON PERFORATED 22190519 GEM MINT 10 1988 NIAGARA FALLS THUNDER 4 KEITH PRIMEAU 22190484 MINT 9 1989 MARINE MIDLAND N.Y. RANGERS BRIAN LEETCH PERFORATED 22190480 MINT 9 1989 MARINE MIDLAND N.Y. RANGERS MIKE RICHTER PERFORATED 22190502 GEM MINT 10 1990 PENGUINS FOODLAND 11 JAROMIR JAGR
Comments
<< <i>D-men, but don't overlook Mark Howe's time in the WHA as a forward. Remember, that's not an error on the front where it says LW. >>
I was born in the late 70's so always associate him with the Flyers, and playing D. If his first 5 years would have been in the NHL it's likely he would be a 1k point player.
<< <i>
<< <i>D-men, but don't overlook Mark Howe's time in the WHA as a forward. Remember, that's not an error on the front where it says LW. >>
I was born in the late 70's so always associate him with the Flyers, and playing D. If his first 5 years would have been in the NHL it's likely he would be a 1k point player. >>
+1
Love this card- very clean design
I had a hard time finding a copy of this card that was in focus...finally got one to my liking.
I really liked the Denis Potvin rookie that was posted earlier. Centering on that card is so difficult.
-Nathanael
<< <i>Nice cards - particularly like the 59 Richard. Why do PSA and Beckett recognize the 75-76 Mark Howe card as his rookie. Why is it not 1974-75 OPC WHA card #1 the Howes? >>
Good question, I agree it should be The Howes card. Love that card, it's reflects a real interesting period in hockey.
And by the way, how on earth was Gordie Howe not the captain of the 1974 Houston Aeros? Was Dit Clapper or Howie Morenz on that team???
Here's mine:
<< <i>I think that the 74 OPC WHA Howe family card is considered in the same vein as league leader or special interest cards (think Fleer baseball subsets in the 80's). It isn't as clear cut, though, since OPC wasn't smart enough to have additional stand alone cards for each of the Howe's in the 74 set. I hadn't really ever thought that Mark Howe's rookie could be this card, but perhaps over time it will be considered as such.
Here's mine:
Beauty. I've been looking for a good raw copy to sub for a while but most are pretty beat up.
<< <i>
<< <i>Nice cards - particularly like the 59 Richard. Why do PSA and Beckett recognize the 75-76 Mark Howe card as his rookie. Why is it not 1974-75 OPC WHA card #1 the Howes? >>
Good question, I agree it should be The Howes card. Love that card, it's reflects a real interesting period in hockey. >>
Interesting question about the Mark Howe rookie.
The 74-75 card is titled "The Howes" I believe, with the emphasis on the Howe family.
Just as the 1954 Jacques Plante In Action cards (Mr. Zero, etc) are focused on something other then Jacques.
Whereas the 1973 Mike Schmidt rookie (tri-players like the Howes) is labeled as "Rookie 3rd Basemen"
I believe if the 74-75 WHA Howe card was labeled "Howe Senior and Rooks", then perhaps it would be recognized as Mark and Marty's rookie card.
The title of the card has historically had some effect on the rookie denomination.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>Nice cards - particularly like the 59 Richard. Why do PSA and Beckett recognize the 75-76 Mark Howe card as his rookie. Why is it not 1974-75 OPC WHA card #1 the Howes? >>
Good question, I agree it should be The Howes card. Love that card, it's reflects a real interesting period in hockey. >>
Interesting question about the Mark Howe rookie.
The 74-75 card is titled "The Howes" I believe, with the emphasis on the Howe family.
Just as the 1954 Jacques Plante In Action cards (Mr. Zero, etc) are focused on something other then Jacques.
Whereas the 1973 Mike Schmidt rookie (tri-players like the Howes) is labeled as "Rookie 3rd Basemen"
I believe if the 74-75 WHA Howe card was labeled "Howe Senior and Rooks", then perhaps it would be recognized as Mark and Marty's rookie card.
The title of the card has historically had some effect on the rookie denomination. >>
The 1954 In Action cards w/ Plante (#'s 97, 98, 99) are a great comparison (though I disagree w/ Parkhurst on #97 since Mr. Zero is Frank Brimsek), as is the Schmidt example as you present it.
Talk about the best mail day ever. Everything else is gravy for me from here on out...
-Nathanael
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my most recent from PSA a couple of months ago - quite happy . Not in the Richard league , but only a handfull would be.
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Habs007- that is the nicest PSA 9 Gretzky 81 opc I've ever seen. Puts mine to shame. Good work!
1991 Semic Sundin
<< <i>Well, it wasn't cheap, but I finally managed to find myself a 1978 Finnish SM-Liiga Jari Kurri. From my perspective, definitely one of the toughest European issue hockey cards out there. I'll get some scans after it arrives. >>
Congrats on the pickup. I hope I am not stealing your thunder, the card is hard enough to obtain, but this unopened sheet would be a white whale to say the least (pics of front & back; Kurri on bottom right, not mine but it is floating around the world somewhere):
<< <i>Well, it wasn't cheap, but I finally managed to find myself a 1978 Finnish SM-Liiga Jari Kurri. From my perspective, definitely one of the toughest European issue hockey cards out there. I'll get some scans after it arrives. >>
<< <i>First time in 8 years of a saved search that i've seen one on ebay. interesting that the back is different than the scans posted in this thread so there was different, perhaps random placements on the sheet. tape and all!: 1978 Kurri >>
Went for $100 in fair/poor condition. Makes me thinks miwlvrn got a steal ;-)
MINT 9 1973 O-PEE-CHEE 6 STAN MIKITA
1 of 2 with no 10's. Will post scan when it arrives.
some others of note:
MINT 9 1979 PANINI STICKERS 141 VJACHESLAV FETISOV
MINT 9 1998 QUEBEC PEE-WEE TOURNAMENT 109 PATRICE BERGERON
MINT 9 1999 QUEBEC PEE-WEE TOURNAMENT 1185 RYAN CALLAHAN
MINT 9 1988 PANINI STICKERS 301 BRIAN LEETCH
MINT 9 1990 PROCARDS AHL/NHL 409 DOMINIK HASEK
EXCELLENT 5 1981 INDIANAPOLIS CHECKERS KELLY HRUDEY (not an easy set to find so figured get it graded anyway to get it on the map)
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 SASKATOON BLADES 8 WENDEL CLARK
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 KELOWNA WINGS 43 CAM NEELY
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 PANINI STICKERS 84 PETER STASTNY
NEAR MINT 7 1986 KAMLOOPS BLAZERS PERFORATED MARK RECCHI (always a crapshoot when having perforated cards and/or stickers graded. head-scratcher as it has dead perfect centering and appeared headed for 9 or 10)
MINT 9 1986 KAMLOOPS BLAZERS PERFORATED KAMLOOPS BLAZERS TEAM (came from same set as the Recchi)
I have another batch in that should pop soon.
<< <i>Here it is. 1 of 3 now with no 10's as I guess I bumped up the pop report:
First year I collected hockey cards, though Topps.
"Stingray", nice Mikita!
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Lebron in one on one....
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KSA Auction
22190524 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1979 OILERS POSTCARDS MARK MESSIER
22190527 MINT 9 OC 1980 OSHAWA GENERALS POLICE 7 DAVE ANDREYCHUK
22190523 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 NORTH STARS POSTCARDS DINO CICCARELLI
22190521 MINT 9 1981 OILERS RED ROOSTER 17 JARI KURRI RED ROOSTER
22190520 MINT 9 1981 OILERS RED ROOSTER 7 PAUL COFFEY RED ROOSTER
22190501 MINT 9 1981 OILERS RED ROOSTER 99 WAYNE GRETZKY LONG HAIR
22190510 EXCELLENT 5 1981 SAULT STE. MARIE GREYHOUNDS JOHN VANBIESBROUCK
22190509 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 SAULT STE. MARIE GREYHOUNDS RON FRANCIS
22190490 MINT 9 OC 1982 BRANDON WHEAT KINGS 23 RON HEXTALL
22190528 GEM MINT 10 1982 KITCHENER RANGERS 17 ALLAN MacINNIS
22190512 GEM MINT 10 1982 OTTAWA 67'S DARREN PANG
22190515 MINT 9 1982 OTTAWA 67'S GARY ROBERTS
22190517 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 REGINA PATS 8 STU GRIMSON
22190479 MINT 9 1982 VICTORIA COUGARS GRANT FUHR
22190494 MINT 9 1982 VICTORIA COUGARS RUSS COURTNALL
22190496 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 BRANDON WHEAT KINGS 20 RAY FERRARO
22190508 MINT 9 1983 BRANTFORD ALEXANDERS 2 SHAYNE CORSON
22190507 GEM MINT 10 1983 BRANTFORD ALEXANDERS 3 BOB PROBERT
22190495 MINT 9 1983 CANADIAN NATIONAL JUNIORS PAT VERBEEK
22190492 MINT 9 1983 SASKATOON BLADES 22 JOEY KOCUR
22190493 GEM MINT 10 1983 SASKATOON BLADES 8 WENDEL CLARK
22190525 NEAR MINT 7 1985 CANADIENS POSTCARDS PATRICK ROY
22190526 MINT 9 1987 SABRES WONDER BREAD/HOSTESS PERFORATED PIERRE TURGEON PERFORATED
22190519 GEM MINT 10 1988 NIAGARA FALLS THUNDER 4 KEITH PRIMEAU
22190484 MINT 9 1989 MARINE MIDLAND N.Y. RANGERS BRIAN LEETCH PERFORATED
22190480 MINT 9 1989 MARINE MIDLAND N.Y. RANGERS MIKE RICHTER PERFORATED
22190502 GEM MINT 10 1990 PENGUINS FOODLAND 11 JAROMIR JAGR
Is that Gretzky the tough one ?