<< <i>question....where are the grades on the screen shot. I don't see them.
The grades run across the top of the sheet. This is a large sheet (Silver Eagles) and this was the bottom of the sheet. In this case the last column on the right is 70. Count down as you move left. On the far left you can click where it is underlined (when logged into the site). That also opens the pop data. This was a screen shot for my reference. Been looking since the NGC MS69s surfaced. >>
It looks like it's pretty easy to get an NGC 69 set. >>
Probably even easier if you have the option to go through hundreds of sets and send in the best. I bet the grades do a major adjustment when the "normal Joe's" start sending in their sets (Big Boy rejects) and the 66/67/68's get into the mix.
<< <i>A puck in-hand auction just ended w/no bids at $2350....going down.
Has anyone been tracking the average price? >>
The high water mark for opened, raw sets, in hand seems like it was just below $3k. From there, it seems to have gone $2700, $2500, and now $2400.
Those selling the pucks singly have done better. Not sure why more aren't doing it. >>
The problem with selling the pucks seperately is the final value fee on each is approx 50.00, on the set it's capped at 50. So fvf of 50 vs. fvf on 5=$250. Thus selling individually you're 200 in the hole vs. the set and need to pull big numbers...A single puck did go for $761 recently.
<< <i>A puck in-hand auction just ended w/no bids at $2350....going down.
Has anyone been tracking the average price? >>
The high water mark for opened, raw sets, in hand seems like it was just below $3k. From there, it seems to have gone $2700, $2500, and now $2400.
Those selling the pucks singly have done better. Not sure why more aren't doing it. >>
Actually, that one set sold for $3100. Which brought out a bunch of sellers, which dropped the price to the $2600 - $2800 mark.
These are very volitale. I noticed when an AP sells out, the price goes up, when an AP is selling them, price comes down. Currently we have to work through all the Gold Center ebay auctions, the price will come down, after this weekend, there will be fewer auctions, prices should come up. Anyone buy at $900 is safe.
As for selling singles, that's a tough decision. It'll cost $175 more in ebay fees alone. If each coin goes to a different buyer, your talking, at $15 shipping, $75 instead of $25, then there is a little more paypal fees. You have to get $225 more for 5, just to break even. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
i think Fidelitrade had the intention of using the "list" of names , phone numbers and emails, but for some reason went the other way - a 180 degree turn
no issue because many were on top of their game and sent in their order overnight mail
the proper way to do it would have been take the first 500 names, contact, have 24 hours to respond.
a few days later, the next 500, etc etc etc.
could have been very orderly.
any orders received without being on the list (out of order), returned at sellers expense.
I think APMEX, when the offer again, is going to do something like this based on their alerts.
I called FideliTrade and put my name on the last way back when. I did not print the form and send it in. I had given up on these at that point, didn't want to spend the $$'s on overnight shipping, concentrate on the 'P' sets, etc. I received a call yesterday from a very nice lady at FideliTrade asking for my email address to send me my form. I was informed that they had put aside a number of sets for those on the call in list. It is not a guarantee you will get a set, but the odds are very good. Your check will be held until it is determined if you get a set. So if you see it clear your bank, you are in. Otherwise it will be returned. This fact makes me wonder what will happen if you sent in a money order/cashiers check...
<< <i>While we have a lull in activity on this thread I would just like to drop a reminder to put in your guess for the "P" puck date of sale. If you do not recognize the names of some of the guessers then that date is still available.
The last guess was a collectors 1st post on the forum and obviously will be disqualified......
Howdy, I have been a reader of this thread since the ATB debacle started to unfold, but never joined until recently because I was unable to figure out how to do it. I only discovered this site after a link was posted on the GIM thread, and I enjoyed it, but again, had trouble getting access. Once I did figure it out, it took me several days to actually get access (someone must approve my application apparently?). In the interim, and since the beginning, I was reading (and posting) on the goldismoney thread, and posted valuable info regarding how and where to get these "pucks" I posted the first pics of them on that site on Dec 24th (yes, I was one of the first batch to order from APMEX). I posted the first notice that MTB had them for sale, I posted numbers to call for Prudential, etc.... So, while I have been an active reader of both sites, I have only been posting to the other site because I could not get access here.
So, now I have been checking the site everyday, and have been ready to post something (if I learned something of course), and imagine my surprise to read this post, and find that I am shunned because I just joined, and OMG.... I actually participated with my first post as an entry into a makeshift (and generous) contest. Please keep this in mind as you disqualify my date guess. (BTW, That makes my total posts 2 now).
<< <i>So, now I have been checking the site everyday, and have been ready to post something (if I learned something of course), and imagine my surprise to read this post, and find that I am shunned because I just joined, and OMG.... I actually participated with my first post as an entry into a makeshift (and generous) contest. Please keep this in mind as you disqualify my date guess. (BTW, That makes my total posts 2 now). >>
Hate to hear of such "shunning". This place is full of greed! Thick skin my friend.
Don't get riled up, the disqualification was probably because when he started the contest, the poster said it was only open to people who were participating at the time.
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<< <i>Don't get riled up, the disqualification was probably because when he started the contest, the poster said it was only open to people who were participating at the time. >>
My guess was already taken =(. I wanted to guess March 8th since the Release Schedule doesn't currently have anything listed after March 3rd and before March 15th.
FideliTrade just sent an email confirming they received my order but no guarantee it will be filled.
I was lazy and went to the USPS and used their Express service which of course arrived after FedEx and UPS.
By looking at the attachement all of you better have played by the rules and only sent in 1 order per household. Also, it looks like it may be a month til we receive the coins.
<< <i>I called FideliTrade and put my name on the last way back when. I did not print the form and send it in. I had given up on these at that point, didn't want to spend the $$'s on overnight shipping, concentrate on the 'P' sets, etc. I received a call yesterday from a very nice lady at FideliTrade asking for my email address to send me my form. I was informed that they had put aside a number of sets for those on the call in list. It is not a guarantee you will get a set, but the odds are very good. Your check will be held until it is determined if you get a set. So if you see it clear your bank, you are in. Otherwise it will be returned. This fact makes me wonder what will happen if you sent in a money order/cashiers check... >>
Good info and good for Fidelitrade.
Someone correct me, but I think they said no third party checks.
<< <i>FideliTrade just sent an email confirming they received my order but no guarantee it will be filled.
I was lazy and went to the USPS and used their Express service which of course arrived after FedEx and UPS.
By looking at the attachement all of you better have played by the rules and only sent in 1 order per household. Also, it looks like it may be a month til we receive the coins. >>
Realgator, when did your order arrive? Friday or Monday?
It seems there are several ways your order could get tossed. In fact just before I put mine in the envelope I saw the space to write my email address.
Here's some of what was incuded in the FideliTrade email attachment:
Order Acceptance: „h FideliTrade will process orders in batches as they arrive during regular business hours. o As various carriers deliver orders, those orders will be batched and subsequently processed in the order each batch is received. „X The individual orders within each batch will be simply processed as they are received (i.e., the top order is processed first, then the second, and so on). „h Orders will be checked for duplicate names, addresses, and other information that may suggest an attempt to circumvent the Mint¡¦s objective of one set per household. Orders will be checked further for accuracy, completeness, and USA PATRIOT Act compliance. Orders not meeting compliance or other tests will be rejected. „h Payment may only be made by check or money order only; if a check is returned by the bank of any reason, the order will be cancelled. „h FideliTrade will attempt to communicate with customers throughout this process. The following notices will be sent by email as soon as practicable: o Acknowledgment when a request has been received (i.e., the documents arrived at our door); o Confirmation when an order has been accepted (i.e., the order will be fulfilled subject to check clearing), or o confirmation when an order is rejected due to over subscription, „X Orders rejected due to non-compliance or duplication will not be notified. o Confirmation of shipment and tracking number. (Due to the large number of orders expected, we expect minor delays in reporting the status to customers) „h If order is not accepted, customer checks will be voided and returned to the address on the order form.
I feel they may have just pulled the first 3,000 letters and piled them up, and are now grabbing stacks from the pile to process. So it may seem random, but everyone who posted that they received an email had their letter delivered on the first day. If they miss an order they will fall back on the "no orders are guaranteed" statements.
Over on the goldismoney board is this thread / post-
"Just back from Florida Fun Show....ATB coins Sets were trading at retail $2200-$2500 for raw coins. Did NOT see a single retail sale... Was sitting at NGC table and as I was talking to them about submissions, I saw dealers bringing tubes of ATB coins to be left for submissions."
"This fact makes me wonder what will happen if you sent in a money order/cashiers check... >> Someone correct me, but I think they said no third party checks."
Please don't tell me that a bank cashier's check is considered a "third party check"!
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."
<< <i>A puck in-hand auction just ended w/no bids at $2350....going down.
Has anyone been tracking the average price? >>
The high water mark for opened, raw sets, in hand seems like it was just below $3k. From there, it seems to have gone $2700, $2500, and now $2400.
Those selling the pucks singly have done better. Not sure why more aren't doing it. >>
The problem with selling the pucks seperately is the final value fee on each is approx 50.00, on the set it's capped at 50. So fvf of 50 vs. fvf on 5=$250. Thus selling individually you're 200 in the hole vs. the set and need to pull big numbers...A single puck did go for $761 recently. >>
Isnt' the FVF higher for BINs? Which type of sale is it capped for - acution, BIN or both?
<< <i>"This fact makes me wonder what will happen if you sent in a money order/cashiers check... >> Someone correct me, but I think they said no third party checks."
Please don't tell me that a bank cashier's check is considered a "third party check"! >>
<< <i>A puck in-hand auction just ended w/no bids at $2350....going down.
Has anyone been tracking the average price? >>
The high water mark for opened, raw sets, in hand seems like it was just below $3k. From there, it seems to have gone $2700, $2500, and now $2400.
Those selling the pucks singly have done better. Not sure why more aren't doing it. >>
The problem with selling the pucks seperately is the final value fee on each is approx 50.00, on the set it's capped at 50. So fvf of 50 vs. fvf on 5=$250. Thus selling individually you're 200 in the hole vs. the set and need to pull big numbers...A single puck did go for $761 recently. >>
Isnt' the FVF higher for BINs? Which type of sale is it capped for - acution, BIN or both? >>
Capped for auctions at $50, doing a BIN I think on a sale of say $2600 they take $85. + paypal takes their 3% or something close.
<< <i>A puck in-hand auction just ended w/no bids at $2350....going down.
Has anyone been tracking the average price? >>
The high water mark for opened, raw sets, in hand seems like it was just below $3k. From there, it seems to have gone $2700, $2500, and now $2400.
Those selling the pucks singly have done better. Not sure why more aren't doing it. >>
The problem with selling the pucks seperately is the final value fee on each is approx 50.00, on the set it's capped at 50. So fvf of 50 vs. fvf on 5=$250. Thus selling individually you're 200 in the hole vs. the set and need to pull big numbers...A single puck did go for $761 recently. >>
Isnt' the FVF higher for BINs? Which type of sale is it capped for - acution, BIN or both? >>
Ebay fee on $2500 BIN is 93.50, auction would be capped at $50
<< <i>Over on the goldismoney board is this thread / post-
"Just back from Florida Fun Show....ATB coins Sets were trading at retail $2200-$2500 for raw coins. Did NOT see a single retail sale... Was sitting at NGC table and as I was talking to them about submissions, I saw dealers bringing tubes of ATB coins to be left for submissions." >>
Amazing how they can do that w/the one/HH limit. Were any of these dealers from, say, IL?
<< <i>A puck in-hand auction just ended w/no bids at $2350....going down.
Has anyone been tracking the average price?
The high water mark for opened, raw sets, in hand seems like it was just below $3k. From there, it seems to have gone $2700, $2500, and now $2400.
Those selling the pucks singly have done better. Not sure why more aren't doing it.
The problem with selling the pucks seperately is the final value fee on each is approx 50.00, on the set it's capped at 50. So fvf of 50 vs. fvf on 5=$250. Thus selling individually you're 200 in the hole vs. the set and need to pull big numbers...A single puck did go for $761 recently. >>
A good percentage of the ebay sales I've seen for singles have brought in high numbers that still come out ahead even with a $250 hit. There's a portion of the populace that doesn't want all 5 coins and are just targeting single coins.
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Thanks! It looks like the BINs are doing a bit better. None sold today as of yet. The prices of sets seem to be dropping about $100/day.
It's interesting that NGC has a Jan. 21 cut-off for ER yet PCGS has no cut-off or FS. Will this be a case where the NGC ERs are worth more than the PCGS FS in the long run - lower pop and higher grades??
Hard call for those who want to sell as to what to do at present. Graded sets, esp. 69s will bring more than raw HOWEVER what will the prices be in two to three weeks when the graded sets (sent in now) are returned?? Of course, one can do express, but this adds a LOT to the grading fees. Then again, if they continue to drop in price rapidly the Express fee may be worth it. Who knows. The currrent record has to go to miles w/his "sealed" set at $3800!!
<<Please don't tell me that a bank cashier's check is considered a "third party check"! >>
Cashiers checks are not "third party checks". Text
Whew! Thank you. I didn't think so but when I saw the comment above it made me wonder. Like everyone else, I've been waiting so long to get a set of these & every time I get a chance to order, something seems to occur that prevents it. First it was APMEX selling early (missed completely!), then it was the Prudential fiasco (hit redial so many times I got blisters), then MTB (never heard back), and now finally I get a confirmation from FiTrade that they at least received my app. I've got my fingers & everything else I can think of crossed.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."
Comments
<< <i>
<< <i>so if you want a set of 69's, ngc is the place to go. >>
It would appear so. I should have grades on mine from APMEX by the end of the week. At least 3 of the 5 looked MS69 to me. >>
Please let us know!!
<< <i>A puck in-hand auction just ended w/no bids at $2350....going down.
Has anyone been tracking the average price? >>
The high water mark for opened, raw sets, in hand seems like it was just below $3k.
From there, it seems to have gone $2700, $2500, and now $2400.
Those selling the pucks singly have done better. Not sure why more aren't doing it.
<< <i>
<< <i>Overall, I'm guessing I have four MS 69's, if not a couple of 70's and likely one 67 or 68.
BOTTOM LINE - IF YOU BOUGHT FROM MTB, I THINK YOU WILL BE VERY IMPRESSED AND A HAPPY CUSTOMER!!!
Pics, please. I thank you. >>
I am really sorry to disappoint you but I'm terrible with a camera and even worse with coin pics.
<< <i>
<< <i>question....where are the grades on the screen shot. I don't see them.
The grades run across the top of the sheet. This is a large sheet (Silver Eagles) and this
was the bottom of the sheet. In this case the last column on the right is 70. Count down
as you move left. On the far left you can click where it is underlined (when logged into the
site). That also opens the pop data. This was a screen shot for my reference. Been looking since
the NGC MS69s surfaced. >>
It looks like it's pretty easy to get an NGC 69 set. >>
Probably even easier if you have the option to go through hundreds of sets and send in the best. I bet the grades do a major adjustment when the "normal Joe's" start sending in their sets (Big Boy rejects) and the 66/67/68's get into the mix.
<< <i>
<< <i>A puck in-hand auction just ended w/no bids at $2350....going down.
Has anyone been tracking the average price? >>
The high water mark for opened, raw sets, in hand seems like it was just below $3k.
From there, it seems to have gone $2700, $2500, and now $2400.
Those selling the pucks singly have done better. Not sure why more aren't doing it. >>
The problem with selling the pucks seperately is the final value fee on each is approx 50.00, on the set it's capped at 50. So fvf of 50 vs. fvf on 5=$250. Thus selling individually you're 200 in the hole vs. the set and need to pull big numbers...A single puck did go for $761 recently.
<< <i>
<< <i>A puck in-hand auction just ended w/no bids at $2350....going down.
Has anyone been tracking the average price? >>
The high water mark for opened, raw sets, in hand seems like it was just below $3k.
From there, it seems to have gone $2700, $2500, and now $2400.
Those selling the pucks singly have done better. Not sure why more aren't doing it. >>
Actually, that one set sold for $3100. Which brought out a bunch of sellers, which dropped the price to the $2600 - $2800 mark.
These are very volitale. I noticed when an AP sells out, the price goes up, when an AP is selling them, price comes down. Currently we have to work through all the Gold Center ebay auctions, the price will come down, after this weekend, there will be fewer auctions, prices should come up. Anyone buy at $900 is safe.
As for selling singles, that's a tough decision. It'll cost $175 more in ebay fees alone. If each coin goes to a different buyer, your talking, at $15 shipping, $75 instead of $25, then there is a little more paypal fees. You have to get $225 more for 5, just to break even. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Here's my Fidelitrade update:
The background is, the first call to get on the list didn't include leaving an email address, just a phone number.
Later, I called again and got on the list again, but with an email address.
Got home Tuesday and there was a message from Fidelitrade that the pucks were in.
Of course I'd already sent my info in, so I'm good.
BUT, if I was to analyze this, I'd say, if they had MORE order requests over the past couple days than supply, they wouldn't have called.
no issue because many were on top of their game and sent in their order overnight mail
the proper way to do it would have been take the first 500 names, contact, have 24 hours to respond.
a few days later, the next 500, etc etc etc.
could have been very orderly.
any orders received without being on the list (out of order), returned at sellers expense.
I think APMEX, when the offer again, is going to do something like this based on their alerts.
I received a call yesterday from a very nice lady at FideliTrade asking for my email address to send me my form. I was informed that they had put aside a number of sets for those on the call in list. It is not a guarantee you will get a set, but the odds are very good. Your check will be held until it is determined if you get a set. So if you see it clear your bank, you are in. Otherwise it will be returned. This fact makes me wonder what will happen if you sent in a money order/cashiers check...
<< <i>While we have a lull in activity on this thread I would just like to drop a reminder to put in your guess for the "P" puck date of sale. If you do not recognize the names of some of the guessers then that date is still available.
The last guess was a collectors 1st post on the forum and obviously will be disqualified......
I'm sure a date announcement is coming up soon...
Rules are a few pages back....
"P" pucks >>
Howdy, I have been a reader of this thread since the ATB debacle started to unfold, but never joined until recently because I was unable to figure out how to do it. I only discovered this site after a link was posted on the GIM thread, and I enjoyed it, but again, had trouble getting access. Once I did figure it out, it took me several days to actually get access (someone must approve my application apparently?). In the interim, and since the beginning, I was reading (and posting) on the goldismoney thread, and posted valuable info regarding how and where to get these "pucks" I posted the first pics of them on that site on Dec 24th (yes, I was one of the first batch to order from APMEX). I posted the first notice that MTB had them for sale, I posted numbers to call for Prudential, etc.... So, while I have been an active reader of both sites, I have only been posting to the other site because I could not get access here.
So, now I have been checking the site everyday, and have been ready to post something (if I learned something of course), and imagine my surprise to read this post, and find that I am shunned because I just joined, and OMG.... I actually participated with my first post as an entry into a makeshift (and generous) contest. Please keep this in mind as you disqualify my date guess. (BTW, That makes my total posts 2 now).
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>Not a lot of differentiation in those grades. Either the submitted coins were cherrypicked or the grading is extremely lenient. >>
Are you trying to say that people wouldn't want to pay for grading if they felt the new coin will come back with a lower grade? >>
Yep, especially considering how much it costs to grade these.
I notice one of the Grand Canyon coins got an MS62 grade. That must've had a gouge in it. >>
The gouge was in the purchase from HSN
<< <i>So, now I have been checking the site everyday, and have been ready to post something (if I learned something of course), and imagine my surprise to read this post, and find that I am shunned because I just joined, and OMG.... I actually participated with my first post as an entry into a makeshift (and generous) contest. Please keep this in mind as you disqualify my date guess. (BTW, That makes my total posts 2 now). >>
<< <i>Don't get riled up, the disqualification was probably because when he started the contest, the poster said it was only open to people who were participating at the time. >>
My guess was already taken =(. I wanted to guess March 8th since the Release Schedule doesn't currently have anything listed after March 3rd and before March 15th.
I was lazy and went to the USPS and used their Express service which of course arrived after FedEx and UPS.
By looking at the attachement all of you better have played by the rules and only sent in 1 order per household.
Also, it looks like it may be a month til we receive the coins.
<< <i>Anyone have an update on Prudential? Are they done, or will they go back to the 2 hour "window of opportunity™"? >>
They have suspended sales and will not say when sales will reopen.
No e-mail yet.
<< <i>I called FideliTrade and put my name on the last way back when. I did not print the form and send it in. I had given up on these at that point, didn't want to spend the $$'s on overnight shipping, concentrate on the 'P' sets, etc.
I received a call yesterday from a very nice lady at FideliTrade asking for my email address to send me my form. I was informed that they had put aside a number of sets for those on the call in list. It is not a guarantee you will get a set, but the odds are very good. Your check will be held until it is determined if you get a set. So if you see it clear your bank, you are in. Otherwise it will be returned. This fact makes me wonder what will happen if you sent in a money order/cashiers check... >>
Good info and good for Fidelitrade.
Someone correct me, but I think they said no third party checks.
<< <i>Someone correct me, but I think they said no third party checks. >>
I was going to endorse a two-party post date check to them. That will be fine, right?
<< <i>I was going to endorse a two-party post date check to them. That will be fine, right? >>
Just call them and ask: 800-223-1080
<< <i>FideliTrade just sent an email confirming they received my order but no guarantee it will be filled.
I was lazy and went to the USPS and used their Express service which of course arrived after FedEx and UPS.
By looking at the attachement all of you better have played by the rules and only sent in 1 order per household.
Also, it looks like it may be a month til we receive the coins. >>
Realgator, when did your order arrive? Friday or Monday?
<< <i>
<< <i>Someone correct me, but I think they said no third party checks. >>
I was going to endorse a two-party post date check to them. That will be fine, right? >>
From their e-mail:
4. Payment must be by check (no third‐party checks). Checks must be included with the Purchase Order form.
So I think they're still wading through the pile and wouldn't read too much into it yet.
Mine arrived around 2:20 PM Friday.
It seems there are several ways your order could get tossed. In fact just before I put mine in the envelope I saw the space to write my email address.
Here's some of what was incuded in the FideliTrade email attachment:
Order Acceptance:
„h FideliTrade will process orders in batches as they arrive during regular business hours.
o As various carriers deliver orders, those orders will be batched and subsequently processed in the order each batch is received.
„X The individual orders within each batch will be simply processed as they are received (i.e., the top order is processed first, then the second, and so on).
„h Orders will be checked for duplicate names, addresses, and other information that may suggest an attempt to circumvent the Mint¡¦s objective of one set per household. Orders will be checked further for accuracy, completeness, and USA PATRIOT Act compliance. Orders not meeting compliance or other tests will be rejected.
„h Payment may only be made by check or money order only; if a check is returned by the bank of any reason, the order will be cancelled.
„h FideliTrade will attempt to communicate with customers throughout this process. The following notices will be sent by email as soon as practicable:
o Acknowledgment when a request has been received (i.e., the documents arrived at our door);
o Confirmation when an order has been accepted (i.e., the order will be fulfilled subject to check clearing), or
o confirmation when an order is rejected due to over subscription,
„X Orders rejected due to non-compliance or duplication will not be notified.
o Confirmation of shipment and tracking number.
(Due to the large number of orders expected, we expect minor delays in reporting the status to customers)
„h If order is not accepted, customer checks will be voided and returned to the address on the order form.
Early...late arrivers...?
Sent UPS, FedEx, USPS...
Or just random?
<< <i>Or just random? >>
I feel they may have just pulled the first 3,000 letters and piled them up, and are now grabbing stacks from the pile to process. So it may seem random, but everyone who posted that they received an email had their letter delivered on the first day. If they miss an order they will fall back on the "no orders are guaranteed" statements.
"Just back from Florida Fun Show....ATB coins Sets were trading at retail $2200-$2500 for raw coins. Did NOT see a single retail sale... Was sitting at NGC table and as I was talking to them about submissions, I saw dealers bringing tubes of ATB coins to be left for submissions."
"This fact makes me wonder what will happen if you sent in a money order/cashiers check... >>
Someone correct me, but I think they said no third party checks."
Please don't tell me that a bank cashier's check is considered a "third party check"!
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."
~ Vince Lombardi
FedEx - Delivery Confirm around 7:30 AM - e-mail rec'd Monday 3:32 PM
UPS - Delivery Confirm 10:44 AM - e-mail rec'd 9:39 AM Tuesday
USPS - Delivery COnfirm 2:20 PM - e-mail rec'd 12:00 Noon Wednesday
<< <i> I saw dealers bringing tubes of ATB coins to be left for submissions." >>
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>A puck in-hand auction just ended w/no bids at $2350....going down.
Has anyone been tracking the average price? >>
The high water mark for opened, raw sets, in hand seems like it was just below $3k.
From there, it seems to have gone $2700, $2500, and now $2400.
Those selling the pucks singly have done better. Not sure why more aren't doing it. >>
The problem with selling the pucks seperately is the final value fee on each is approx 50.00, on the set it's capped at 50. So fvf of 50 vs. fvf on 5=$250. Thus selling individually you're 200 in the hole vs. the set and need to pull big numbers...A single puck did go for $761 recently. >>
Isnt' the FVF higher for BINs? Which type of sale is it capped for - acution, BIN or both?
<< <i>"This fact makes me wonder what will happen if you sent in a money order/cashiers check... >>
Someone correct me, but I think they said no third party checks."
Please don't tell me that a bank cashier's check is considered a "third party check"!
Cashiers checks are not "third party checks".
<< <i>Two friends and I each put in our own orders (w/ Fidelitrade), this is the order we received our e-mails:
FedEx - Delivery Confirm around 7:30 AM - e-mail rec'd Monday 3:32 PM
UPS - Delivery Confirm 10:44 AM - e-mail rec'd 9:39 AM Tuesday
USPS - Delivery COnfirm 2:20 PM - e-mail rec'd 12:00 Noon Wednesday >>
I was in the 2:20 USPS bunch, got my email at noon.
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<< <i>A puck in-hand auction just ended w/no bids at $2350....going down.
Has anyone been tracking the average price? >>
The high water mark for opened, raw sets, in hand seems like it was just below $3k.
From there, it seems to have gone $2700, $2500, and now $2400.
Those selling the pucks singly have done better. Not sure why more aren't doing it. >>
The problem with selling the pucks seperately is the final value fee on each is approx 50.00, on the set it's capped at 50. So fvf of 50 vs. fvf on 5=$250. Thus selling individually you're 200 in the hole vs. the set and need to pull big numbers...A single puck did go for $761 recently. >>
Isnt' the FVF higher for BINs? Which type of sale is it capped for - acution, BIN or both? >>
Capped for auctions at $50, doing a BIN I think on a sale of say $2600 they take $85. + paypal takes their 3% or something close.
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<< <i>A puck in-hand auction just ended w/no bids at $2350....going down.
Has anyone been tracking the average price? >>
The high water mark for opened, raw sets, in hand seems like it was just below $3k.
From there, it seems to have gone $2700, $2500, and now $2400.
Those selling the pucks singly have done better. Not sure why more aren't doing it. >>
The problem with selling the pucks seperately is the final value fee on each is approx 50.00, on the set it's capped at 50. So fvf of 50 vs. fvf on 5=$250. Thus selling individually you're 200 in the hole vs. the set and need to pull big numbers...A single puck did go for $761 recently. >>
Isnt' the FVF higher for BINs? Which type of sale is it capped for - acution, BIN or both? >>
Ebay fee on $2500 BIN is 93.50, auction would be capped at $50
Ebay Fee Calculator
<< <i>Thanks epcjimi1
WELCOME dysplastic :-)
<< <i>Over on the goldismoney board is this thread / post-
"Just back from Florida Fun Show....ATB coins Sets were trading at retail $2200-$2500 for raw coins. Did NOT see a single retail sale... Was sitting at NGC table and as I was talking to them about submissions, I saw dealers bringing tubes of ATB coins to be left for submissions." >>
Amazing how they can do that w/the one/HH limit. Were any of these dealers from, say, IL?
<< <i>A puck in-hand auction just ended w/no bids at $2350....going down.
Has anyone been tracking the average price?
The high water mark for opened, raw sets, in hand seems like it was just below $3k.
From there, it seems to have gone $2700, $2500, and now $2400.
Those selling the pucks singly have done better. Not sure why more aren't doing it.
The problem with selling the pucks seperately is the final value fee on each is approx 50.00, on the set it's capped at 50. So fvf of 50 vs. fvf on 5=$250. Thus selling individually you're 200 in the hole vs. the set and need to pull big numbers...A single puck did go for $761 recently. >>
A good percentage of the ebay sales I've seen for singles have brought in high numbers that still come out ahead even with a $250 hit. There's a portion of the populace that doesn't want all 5 coins and are just targeting single coins.
<< <i>Just in case anyone needs the handy ebay fee calculator....
Ebay Fee Calculator >>
Thanks! It looks like the BINs are doing a bit better. None sold today as of yet. The prices of sets seem to be dropping about $100/day.
It's interesting that NGC has a Jan. 21 cut-off for ER yet PCGS has no cut-off or FS. Will this be a case where the NGC ERs are worth more than the PCGS FS in the long run - lower pop and higher grades??
Hard call for those who want to sell as to what to do at present. Graded sets, esp. 69s will bring more than raw HOWEVER what will the prices be in two to three weeks when the graded sets (sent in now) are returned?? Of course, one can do express, but this adds a LOT to the grading fees. Then again, if they continue to drop in price rapidly the Express fee may be worth it. Who knows. The currrent record has to go to miles w/his "sealed" set at $3800!!
Cashiers checks are not "third party checks".
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Whew! Thank you. I didn't think so but when I saw the comment above it made me wonder. Like everyone else, I've been waiting so long to get a set of these & every time I get a chance to order, something seems to occur that prevents it. First it was APMEX selling early (missed completely!), then it was the Prudential fiasco (hit redial so many times I got blisters), then MTB (never heard back), and now finally I get a confirmation from FiTrade that they at least received my app. I've got my fingers & everything else I can think of crossed.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."
~ Vince Lombardi
I also suspect that the MULTIPLES from a single HH might get tossed, with one order (as per the limit) getting filled.
<< <i>No email or call from Fidelitrade yet. Should I be worried? I got mine in at 1044am via UPS. I figured I would have heard by now. >>
same here on the no contact yet. I was 10:30 with FedEx