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  • Dollar2007Dollar2007 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭
    I'm surprised that the AP's are still not selling these. With the prices falling on eBay and silver prices being unpredictable, if silver fell they could be stuck with these. I hope the price doesn't fall to the point nobody wants them but it could happen.
  • MikeyMoMikeyMo Posts: 73 ✭✭
    got my grades in


    1 1 18797004 505100 2010 25C Hot Springs NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    2 1 18797005 505101 2010 25C Yellowstone NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    3 1 18797006 505102 2010 25C Yosemite NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS66
    4 1 18797007 505103 2010 25C Grand Canyon NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS67
    5 1 18797008 505104 2010 25C Mount Hood NF - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm surprised that the AP's are still not selling these. With the prices falling on eBay and silver prices being unpredictable, if silver fell they could be stuck with these. I hope the price doesn't fall to the point nobody wants them but it could happen. >>



    Well you are assuming they are not selling them.

    So the prices have fell from 3K to 2K, it's still a huge profit. Unless the Mint has lied about production numbers there is almost no chance the price falls below 1K.
    Successful coin BST transactions with Gerard and segoja.

    Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.


  • << <i>

    << <i>thats funny

    "im going to give the sets to MY customers"

    I bought a few monster boxes of ASE's off these guys a few years ago - i'm a customer and I DID'NT GET A CALL >>






    Guess he meant to say "MY BEST customers" but he figured he be diplomatic. image >>



    maybe His Best customers were the ones willing to pay 1500 cash under the table for multiple sets out the door.
  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>got my grades in


    1 1 18797004 505100 2010 25C Hot Springs NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    2 1 18797005 505101 2010 25C Yellowstone NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    3 1 18797006 505102 2010 25C Yosemite NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS66
    4 1 18797007 505103 2010 25C Grand Canyon NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS67
    5 1 18797008 505104 2010 25C Mount Hood NF - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68 >>



    Very nice.

    So are you happy with the grades?
    Successful coin BST transactions with Gerard and segoja.

    Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
  • The Fidelitrade email attachment stated how they plan to handle and package the coins. Looks like they will be almost as nicely packaged as MTB.

    o Coins will be unpackaged (from Mint tubes) with care.
    „X On a soft, non-abrasive surface
    „X Packing staff will wear gloves when handling the coins
    o Coins will be packaged as follows:
    „X Each of the 5 coins will be placed in small (4¡¨ x 4¡¨) bubble envelopes;
    „X the 5 small bubble envelopes will be sealed in a sturdy fiber envelope;
    „X the fiber envelope will be placed in a FedEx Bubble Pak for shipment.
    Successful BST transactions: clackamas, goldman86, alohagary, rodzm, bigmarty58, Hyperion, segoja, levinll, dmarks


  • << <i>

    << <i>I'm surprised that the AP's are still not selling these. With the prices falling on eBay and silver prices being unpredictable, if silver fell they could be stuck with these. I hope the price doesn't fall to the point nobody wants them but it could happen. >>



    Well you are assuming they are not selling them.

    So the prices have fell from 3K to 2K, it's still a huge profit. Unless the Mint has lied about production numbers there is almost no chance the price falls below 1K. >>



    There is a limit as to the number people willing to overpay for a set of these when they may still be purchased from APs. I agree the price of these will never fall below 1000 unless the bottom falls out of silver, but the $3000 per set of ungraded will be a memory in the near future.
  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    It's a fluid situation.

    If I had two sets @ the Mint Directive pricing and could sell one now for $2000, I'd be all over it and keep the remaining set.

    Like someone posted a few pages back, "buy and HOLD" seems a good option.

    33,000 sets of bullion and 27,000 sets for 2010 and a ten year program?

    Sooner or later the 2010 pucks are going to be the key to the series.

    IMHO. image
  • Dollar2007Dollar2007 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The Fidelitrade email attachment stated how they plan to handle and package the coins. Looks like they will be almost as nicely packaged as MTB.

    o Coins will be unpackaged (from Mint tubes) with care.
    „X On a soft, non-abrasive surface
    „X Packing staff will wear gloves when handling the coins
    o Coins will be packaged as follows:
    „X Each of the 5 coins will be placed in small (4¡¨ x 4¡¨) bubble envelopes;
    „X the 5 small bubble envelopes will be sealed in a sturdy fiber envelope;
    „X the fiber envelope will be placed in a FedEx Bubble Pak for shipment. >>



    What attachment was this in, I didn't see this on the order form pdf.
  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,805 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>got my grades in


    1 1 18797004 505100 2010 25C Hot Springs NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    2 1 18797005 505101 2010 25C Yellowstone NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    3 1 18797006 505102 2010 25C Yosemite NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS66
    4 1 18797007 505103 2010 25C Grand Canyon NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS67
    5 1 18797008 505104 2010 25C Mount Hood NF - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68 >>



    Very nice.

    So are you happy with the grades? >>



    Were these from APMEX?
    Land of the Free because of the Brave!
  • MikeyMoMikeyMo Posts: 73 ✭✭
    Yeah, I got them from APMEX. I am very happy with the grades, will post pix when I get them. May try to trade around for a set of 68's, will see what the market says.
  • paladinpaladin Posts: 898 ✭✭


    << <i>I'm surprised that the AP's are still not selling these. With the prices falling on eBay and silver prices being unpredictable, if silver fell they could be stuck with these. I hope the price doesn't fall to the point nobody wants them but it could happen. >>





    Economics 101:
    Tell someone he can't have something & he'll redouble his efforts to get it. Human nature. By withholding these things the AP's have increased demand. They're not stupid - they just think we are. They learned it from the retail sector. Anybody remember the Cabbage Patch Kids craze of the 70's? Or the Beany Babies? Or the "shortage" of Playstations right before Christmas a few years back? Ladies & Gentlemen - we've been had. image


    "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."

    ~ Vince Lombardi


  • << <i>

    << <i>The Fidelitrade email attachment stated how they plan to handle and package the coins. Looks like they will be almost as nicely packaged as MTB.

    o Coins will be unpackaged (from Mint tubes) with care.
    „X On a soft, non-abrasive surface
    „X Packing staff will wear gloves when handling the coins
    o Coins will be packaged as follows:
    „X Each of the 5 coins will be placed in small (4¡¨ x 4¡¨) bubble envelopes;
    „X the 5 small bubble envelopes will be sealed in a sturdy fiber envelope;
    „X the fiber envelope will be placed in a FedEx Bubble Pak for shipment. >>



    What attachment was this in, I didn't see this on the order form pdf. >>


    It was in the Processing Overview PDF that also included the Order Acceptance terms. It came as an attachment to the Receipt of Correspondence email.
    Successful BST transactions: clackamas, goldman86, alohagary, rodzm, bigmarty58, Hyperion, segoja, levinll, dmarks
  • mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It was in the Processing Overview PDF that also included the Order Acceptance terms. It came as an attachment to the Receipt of Correspondence email. >>



    Dang! I haven't got that yet. I got an email from ATB welcoming me to Fidelitrade, but there were no attachments. My check hasn't been cashed yet, either. Has anyone that sent a personal check received the Processing Overview and Order Acceptance?
  • drfishdrfish Posts: 942 ✭✭✭✭
    That info came in the attachment to the email saying Fidelitrade had recieved your application/payment for the ATB's.
  • The good news is that Fidelitrade seems to be sending emails everyday. Maybe they only have one person dealing with the whole ATB program and its just taking a while to get through all the mail. I sent a personal check overnight and still have no communication with them. However, I still have hope that tomorrow will by my day. Thanks for all the updates.
  • paladinpaladin Posts: 898 ✭✭


    << <i>That info came in the attachment to the email saying Fidelitrade had recieved your application/payment for the ATB's. >>





    This is all mine said:

    "--Receipt of Correspondence--

    Thank you for your interest in the 2010 America the Beautiful Five Coin Silver Bullion Set and Fidelitrade Incorporated. We have received your correspondence and your request has been forwarded to our compliance processing center for further review.

    This is only an acknowledgement that your request has been received. This is NOT confirmation that your request has been accepted.

    If your request is accepted, you will receive an Order Confirmation in the upcoming weeks.

    Thank You,
    FideliTrade Incorporated"



    There was no attachment.
    I didn't get an attachment.
    I don't need no stinking attachment! image




    "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."

    ~ Vince Lombardi
  • KonaheadKonahead Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭
    I have been out of the loop this week. Has anyone heard from apmex this week about the alert list? Anymore sold?
    PEACE! This is the first day of the rest of your life.

    Fred, Las Vegas, NV
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,022 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have been out of the loop this week. Has anyone heard from apmex this week about the alert list? Anymore sold? >>



    not from APMEX.

    you missed FideliTrade. they opened and closed late last week.

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • goldbuffalogoldbuffalo Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    The first part of the Gold Center Hoard sold for $2000, give or take.

  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,805 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just saw my colleague,s MTB coins. They are stunning! No dust or handling smudges like my APMEX coins. I would be shocked if his MTBs were not all NGC 69s. Two of my APMEX coins got 69s from PCGS. These MTB pucks look at least as nice (of course the value is droppng through the floor).

    What is the current PCGS census on the pucks?
    Land of the Free because of the Brave!
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not sure if it was mentioned before.... but the attachment that comes with Fidelitrade "acceptance of correspondence" email describes how they are handling and packaging the coins. I know there was some concern that they would be roughly handled, but it sounds like they are doing a pretty decent job with them:

    FideliTrade

    o Coins will be unpackaged (from Mint tubes) with care.
    - On a soft, non-abrasive surface
    - Packing staff will wear gloves when handling the coins

    o Coins will be packaged as follows:
    - Each of the 5 coins will be placed in small (4” x 4”) bubble envelopes;
    - the 5 small bubble envelopes will be sealed in a sturdy fiber envelope;
    - the fiber envelope will be placed in a FedEx Bubble Pak for shipment
    ----- kj
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also, looks like Fidelitrade will be making shipments via FedEx on Tuesdays.... did not specify when they will begin.
    ----- kj
  • tcmitssrtcmitssr Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭


    << <i>got my grades in


    1 1 18797004 505100 2010 25C Hot Springs NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    2 1 18797005 505101 2010 25C Yellowstone NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    3 1 18797006 505102 2010 25C Yosemite NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS66
    4 1 18797007 505103 2010 25C Grand Canyon NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS67
    5 1 18797008 505104 2010 25C Mount Hood NF - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68 >>



    PCGS or across the street where easier grading appears to be the case, IMHO, from what I've read?

    Congrats, most importantly. How heavy is the freakin holder? What are its dimensions if you would please be so kind so as to mention them?
  • tcmitssrtcmitssr Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I just spoke w/PCGS. My pucks are on the way back to me in FS slabs. The grades: GC 66. YS 66. HS 69 MH 68. YOS 69. It figures that what will likely be the most desirable ones are 66. These were the APMEX pucks and looked very nice. I think that they may well have all been NGC 69's ER looking at the NGC pops. May well have done better submitting to NGC. That was my plan but on the day I was going to ship PCGS started accepting them and decided that they were going to do FS. At that time they had not yet announced that there would be no FS deadline. Don't know what to do. May sell and submit others to NGC for ER slabbing to keep. Being that I did get two 69s out of five coins will we see some PCGS 70s? >>



    If what you say is the way things are going to play out (NGC going to grade much looser than PCGS), I'd be inclined to stick with PCGS because their grades will become the defacto standard for the pucks and will serve us far better in the long run viz-a-viz "value." If NGC appears to be grading like ANACS, IMHO, they will be market priced like ANACS. Better to stick with the hardest grader on a very new issue where the harder, and yes lower, grades, are likely to turn out ultimately to be worth far more in the long run.
  • REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,622 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << I'm surprised that the AP's are still not selling these. With the prices falling on eBay and silver prices being unpredictable, if silver fell they could be stuck with these. I hope the price doesn't fall to the point nobody wants them but it could happen. >>


    Well thats what makes a market. Until a few years ago I never thought I'd ever buy new US Mint products. Thanks to the US Mint continuously creating "situations", well, I must play. Have fun in the sandbox even if its filled with modern crap. It seems everyone else is.


  • << <i>Not sure if it was mentioned before.... but the attachment that comes with Fidelitrade "acceptance of correspondence" email describes how they are handling and packaging the coins. I know there was some concern that they would be roughly handled, but it sounds like they are doing a pretty decent job with them:

    FideliTrade

    o Coins will be unpackaged (from Mint tubes) with care.
    - On a soft, non-abrasive surface
    - Packing staff will wear gloves when handling the coins

    o Coins will be packaged as follows:
    - Each of the 5 coins will be placed in small (4” x 4”) bubble envelopes;
    - the 5 small bubble envelopes will be sealed in a sturdy fiber envelope;
    - the fiber envelope will be placed in a FedEx Bubble Pak for shipment >>



    That is great news!
  • taxmadtaxmad Posts: 978 ✭✭✭✭
    coinsantiques.xx has not been getting very high prices on his auctions. Most at or slightly under $2000, which for in-hand sets is low.
  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There was no attachment.
    I didn't get an attachment.
    I don't need no stinking attachment! image >>

    My e-mail that came yesterday did not have the attachment, my friend who received his notification today did have the attachment...probably an afterthought after all the calls/e-mails saying...WTH does this mean??
  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>There was no attachment.
    I didn't get an attachment.
    I don't need no stinking attachment! image >>

    My e-mail that came yesterday did not have the attachment, my friend who received his notification today did have the attachment...probably an afterthought after all the calls/e-mails saying...WTH does this mean?? >>



    That two different Ftrade people with two different email configurations are responding; one with attachment, one without?
  • MikeyMoMikeyMo Posts: 73 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>got my grades in


    1 1 18797004 505100 2010 25C Hot Springs NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    2 1 18797005 505101 2010 25C Yellowstone NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    3 1 18797006 505102 2010 25C Yosemite NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS66
    4 1 18797007 505103 2010 25C Grand Canyon NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS67
    5 1 18797008 505104 2010 25C Mount Hood NF - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68 >>



    PCGS or across the street where easier grading appears to be the case, IMHO, from what I've read?

    Congrats, most importantly. How heavy is the freakin holder? What are its dimensions if you would please be so kind so as to mention them? >>



    PCGS, grades posted today, should have them in hand by end of week, will post some pix of holders when I get em.
  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>coinsantiques is flooding themselves out of higher prices. >>



    Yes and they have the advantage of doing so before the hoop jumping flipper even has a chance. The AP's friends (and probably the AP kickback) is making a lot of money over this stalling the APs are doing. >>




    Whatever advantage that clown has was lost days ago. I've followed their listings and it's apparent that somebody failed and miserably I might add, so I will, failed miserably at sales. My guess is they were not as good a friend to get the sets at cost, rather I'm certain they paid a premium, and after all is said and done it will likely be a small gain. I'm not complaining, just found it funny that they don't clue...image
  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    here are my grades, just in.

    1 1 505100 2010 25C Hot Springs NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS66
    1 2 505100 2010 25C Hot Springs NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS69
    2 1 505101 2010 25C Yellowstone NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    2 2 505101 2010 25C Yellowstone NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS67
    3 1 505102 2010 25C Yosemite NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS67
    3 2 505102 2010 25C Yosemite NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    4 1 505103 2010 25C Grand Canyon NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    4 2 505103 2010 25C Grand Canyon NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    5 1 505104 2010 25C Mount Hood NF - 5 Ounces Silver US MS65
    5 2 505104 2010 25C Mount Hood NF - 5 Ounces Silver US MS69
  • I did get through to PB on the third day. The first day, he arrived late, due to snow, and did not take any orders. The second day, I called every 6 seconds for two hrs+ and never got past voicemail. The third day, I got through after about 50 minutes, and mailed out a check the next day. They have not cashed my check, but I did get the generic email notice yesterday, that I am not confirmed, but they have my paperwork.
  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    Ok, lets get some guesses on the value on the PCGS 69's...I'm going to guess $2,399.00 each.
  • tcmitssrtcmitssr Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>coinsantiques is flooding themselves out of higher prices. >>



    Yes and they have the advantage of doing so before the hoop jumping flipper even has a chance. The AP's friends (and probably the AP kickback) is making a lot of money over this stalling the APs are doing. >>




    Whatever advantage that clown has was lost days ago. I've followed their listings and it's apparent that somebody failed and miserably I might add, so I will, failed miserably at sales. My guess is they were not as good a friend to get the sets at cost, rather I'm certain they paid a premium, and after all is said and done it will likely be a small gain. I'm not complaining, just found it funny that they don't clue...image >>



    Had a flipper tell me that he paid almost $400. per coin from whomever he bought his set(s)? Good luck to him as the rest of the sets, whether someone's only set or greedy flipper's mulyiples, hit the market in the days ahead.

    I have no intention to flip a thing or to get multiple sets, thereby keeping others from getting the single set they also want. However, practically realistic, these are going to be worth far much more than the purchase price, in all likelihood, in the years ahead, regardless of where silver goes, IMHO. They are the modern collector's version of the $50. Pan Pacs. Over the short term, they will settle at some higher price but lower than the greedy bostards are getting on Ebay now. However, 25-50 years from now......I think will be "wow, grandpa....you have a set of those!!!!"
  • CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭
    Next week-$950. Next year-$500
    Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.


  • << <i>What is the current PCGS census on the pucks? >>


    PCGS census has not yet been posted for the ATB pucks.
    Successful BST transactions: clackamas, goldman86, alohagary, rodzm, bigmarty58, Hyperion, segoja, levinll, dmarks
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,377 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Also, looks like Fidelitrade will be making shipments via FedEx on Tuesdays.... did not specify when they will begin. >>




    Let's make sure people are clear on this...it is FedEx EXPRESS SAVER SERVICE (so, not overnight)

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So, for the APs that make you fill out an application that has a SSN.....

    What do you think would happen, if anything, if there were a typo with the SSN? Since buying these aren't going to get you reported to the IRS, there really isn't a SSN crosscheck to worry about, right?
    Or, do they likely have something to crosscheck with (let's say you transpose 2 digits) and that would make you lose your place in line because of a problematic application?

    (I don't have my own business so I don't know if they are likely to easily have something to check SSNs and compare to names/addresses or what)

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    Got my grades today also:


    Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
    1 1 18788696 505104 2010 25C Mount Hood NF - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    2 1 18788697 505101 2010 25C Yellowstone NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    3 1 18788698 505100 2010 25C Hot Springs NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS67
    4 1 18788699 505102 2010 25C Yosemite NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    5 1 18788700 505103 2010 25C Grand Canyon NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68


    Guess the order they were graded in was a little off?, happy with the grades though!!!----------BigE
    I'm glad I am a Tree
  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does PCGS have a new box for the bigger slabs?
  • kimber45ACPkimber45ACP Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Got my grades today also:


    Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
    1 1 18788696 505104 2010 25C Mount Hood NF - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    2 1 18788697 505101 2010 25C Yellowstone NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    3 1 18788698 505100 2010 25C Hot Springs NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS67
    4 1 18788699 505102 2010 25C Yosemite NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68
    5 1 18788700 505103 2010 25C Grand Canyon NP - 5 Ounces Silver US MS68


    Guess the order they were graded in was a little off?, happy with the grades though!!!----------BigE >>



    cool. You have the closest to a matching set so far.image
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,118 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Does PCGS have a new box for the bigger slabs? >>



    Remember the old heavy cardboard cases that held 24 longneck beer bottles?
    One of those should work.
    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This guy offered to crack out the coins.

    image
  • My prediction for PCGS graded ATB :

    MS-66 $950
    MS-67 $1200
    MS-68 $2550
    MS-69 $4800
    MS-70 $15000

    MT
  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    d
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    d
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    d
  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    5000!

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