<< <i>Coins are in NGC Quality Control. Hate that wait. Its torture. >>
Mine were Scheduled for Grading, then Quality Control, now back to Scheduled for Grading. ??? >>
Would guess that would mean didn't pass QC? Hmmmmm wierd >>
That was my conclusion too. Not a postive development in my mind - would they ever turn it around for an undergrade? NOT Sigh >>
Don't jump to conclusions! It's the NGC grading process. I spoke to them yesterday. I had the same thing happen and called about it. NGC said it was normal and due the fact the coins must be put in an oversize holder. Nothing dramatic, just how they process these mammoth coins.
<< <i>Has anyone sent their Bu PCGS to NCG? Just curious... >>
001 2010 5oz SILVER YELLOWSTONE 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES 002 2010 5oz SILVER HOT SPRINGS 25C MS 68 EARLY RELEASES 003 2010 5oz SILVER MOUNT HOOD 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES 004 2010 5oz SILVER GRAND CANYON 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES 005 2010 5oz SILVER YOSEMITE 25C MS 68 EARLY RELEASES
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I have run into a couple of listings on Ebay advertising sealed AMARK sets. When I noticed that the box looked opened in the pictures I asked a couple of them and was told, "yes the box was opened but the coins are sealed in their PCGS holders."
<< <i>I have run into a couple of listings on Ebay advertising sealed AMARK sets. When I noticed that the box looked opened in the pictures I asked a couple of them and was told, "yes the box was opened but the coins are sealed in their PCGS holders."
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Sounds like a recipe for "item not as described" to me...even if it's the buyer's fault for not reading the fine print....
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<< <i>I have run into a couple of listings on Ebay advertising sealed AMARK sets. When I noticed that the box looked opened in the pictures I asked a couple of them and was told, "yes the box was opened but the coins are sealed in their PCGS holders."
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People like that give some of us legit "sealed box" sellers a bad name I would liken them to an amateur flipper.....they really don't know what they are talking about but because they can read a little, and someone told them about the money to be had, they go and do things like this.
Got my NGC grades back, they went fast, were just scheduled for grading last Friday, and never showed a quality control step, went right to finalized. Probably better than expected although no PL which I expected on the Grand Canyon and Hot Springs, these were mirrors with no die polish lines. Kind of upset about NGC if they completely stopped giving the PL designation to recently submitted coins which would have previously qualified. Oh well, at least no body bagged for damage, these were from FideliTrade and I didn't check the edges before submitting.
HOT SPRINGS 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES YOSEMITE 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES GRAND CANYON 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES MOUNT HOOD 25C MS 68 EARLY RELEASES YELLOWSTONE 25C MS 68 EARLY RELEASES
Something tells me I won't be getting any PLs. Maybe they gave them only to Coin Vault. I know they had a presale of $799 for each coin- the last being a PL 69 guaranteed for the same price. They had at least 30 of them last week.
Amazingly PCGS 69's and NGC non PL 69's are selling for about the same price right now, except for the occasional PCGS that goes for a little more. At least just within the past couple of days, PCGS's prices seem to have fallen.
001 2010 5oz SILVER HOT SPRINGS 25C MS 68 EARLY RELEASES 002 2010 5oz SILVER YOSEMITE 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES 003 2010 5oz SILVER YELLOWSTONE 25C MS 67 EARLY RELEASES 004 2010 5oz SILVER GRAND CANYON 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES 005 2010 5oz SILVER MOUNT HOOD 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES
These coins were from MBT. Feel pretty good about these. Certainly thought there was a shot at some PL's but as has been discussed those have disappeared.
On a side note I sent 10 2010 Proof SAE's 9 of 10 were PF70 and Two Taylor First Spouse Gold Proofs that were both PF70. Overall a great day.
So what does that do to PCGS guarantee? If coins were submitted previously that should have been PL, then are resubmitted for proper grade...do they pay up?
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If it is true that the grading companies are still figuring out their criteria for grading these coins I think we should get a free or reduced cost chance at a reevaluation and possible regrade. I would be willing to pay up to $15 per coin.
<< <i>So what does that do to PCGS guarantee? If coins were submitted previously that should have been PL, then are resubmitted for proper grade...do they pay up? >>
What would they pay?
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Need a little help. I know it's been posted numerous times here, but searching for it will be a pain. My membership ran out and I need to renew so I can get my ATB's graded. I have 4 sets, one is A-mark slabbed.
Do I get the platinum and use the 8 vouchers for 2 sets? Will this work for the 15 day turn around or only the 30 day? How do I submit the slabbed Amarks in and keep the first strike?
<< <i>Need a little help. I know it's been posted numerous times here, but searching for it will be a pain. My membership ran out and I need to renew so I can get my ATB's graded. I have 4 sets, one is A-mark slabbed.
Do I get the platinum and use the 8 vouchers for 2 sets? Will this work for the 15 day turn around or only the 30 day? How do I submit the slabbed Amarks in and keep the first strike?
Thanks >>
The problem si that two sets contain 10 coins and not 8. You can only use the voucher for 8 coins and the all have to be on the same form. In order for you to use the voucher and submit 10 coins you will have to send in two forms, two handling fees and two return shippings. Also if you have half A-Mark slabs and half raw then that is two different forms anyway. One for a regrade and you don't pay FS fee, the other for grading adn you do pay the FS fee.
Through the Bulk department, the fees had been GEM BU at one price and MS69 at another. All they said was that there making them the same price. That seemed odd at the time, but makes sense now that they're doing PLs, and those fees are significantly higher.
Where is the best place to buy capsules for these? My recently opened Fidelitrade set is so full of mirrors I want to get them out of the bubblewrap. I also want something more protective before I send (or drive) them in for grading.
One more question - for those who have received a DG set, how long did it take to get your set from the time your check was cashed?
<< <i>They're using different coin numbers for these, so that may be where the confusion is. For example, here are the Grand Canyon coin numbers:
MS69: 505103 MS69PL: 506574 MS69DMPL: 506575 >>
Did you submit under the original coin number and PCGS automatically assign the PL coin number? >>
Am wondering the same.... all the pics i see on ebay al look the same.... I know it is always better to see in hand but, I dont get it or see it for that matter. Do I just tell the TPG what I want.
Not sure about it being the best place to buy capsules but I had good luck with air-tites.com . If you order tonight it could be there as early as Monday depending on where you live, he ships really quick and used Priority for my order. Air-tites.com ships bulk airtites repackaged by him, which was fine with me but I think Wizzard Coin Supply uses individually sealed ones, not sure of their shipping speed though.
I noticed there are no pictures of the Washington side of the coins on Ebay for PCGS PL and DMPL coins. Are these also frosted and mirrored? I have yet to see one myself. It would be great to see some pics of what PCGS considers DMPL with shots of both sides of the coin.
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<< <i>Has anyone sent their Bu PCGS to NCG? Just curious... >>
Yes, should have results any day now...
<< <i>Has anyone sent their Bu PCGS to NCG? Just curious... >>
Quite a few....Taxmad reported his grades a few posts ago...mine are on the way back to me
<< <i>I know the NGC ER deadline has passed, but will they give the ER designation for sealed boxes postmarked prior to the cutoff? >>
No
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<< <i>Coins are in NGC Quality Control. Hate that wait. Its torture. >>
Mine were Scheduled for Grading, then Quality Control, now back to Scheduled for Grading. ??? >>
Would guess that would mean didn't pass QC? Hmmmmm wierd >>
That was my conclusion too. Not a postive development in my mind - would they ever turn it around for an undergrade? NOT Sigh >>
Don't jump to conclusions! It's the NGC grading process. I spoke to them yesterday. I had the same thing happen and called about it. NGC said it was normal and due the fact the coins must be put in an oversize holder. Nothing dramatic, just how they process these mammoth coins.
<< <i>Has anyone sent their Bu PCGS to NCG? Just curious... >>
Yep, just got my grades yesterday. 69/69/69/69/68. They gave me a 68 on the Mt. Hood.....
<< <i>Has anyone sent their Bu PCGS to NCG? Just curious... >>
Yes, of two A Mark BU PCGS sets, I sent the best five as as set to NGC and got all 69s w/no PLs despite some very PL looking coins.
I sold the others as is. Some may well have been 69s as well.
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<< <i>I know the NGC ER deadline has passed, but will they give the ER designation for sealed boxes postmarked prior to the cutoff? >>
No >>
Thanks, That's what I had thought, but then I read this in a listing and wasn't sure:
Each set is encapsulated in holders by PCGS and is certified "First Strike Choice BU".
Because this is a SEALED SET, it is PCGS First Strike and NGC Early Release Eligible!
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<< <i>I know the NGC ER deadline has passed, but will they give the ER designation for sealed boxes postmarked prior to the cutoff? >>
No >>
Thanks, That's what I had thought, but then I read this in a listing and wasn't sure:
Each set is encapsulated in holders by PCGS and is certified "First Strike Choice BU".
Because this is a SEALED SET, it is PCGS First Strike and NGC Early Release Eligible! >>
He's half right
<< <i>Has anyone sent their Bu PCGS to NCG? Just curious... >>
001 2010 5oz SILVER YELLOWSTONE 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES
002 2010 5oz SILVER HOT SPRINGS 25C MS 68 EARLY RELEASES
003 2010 5oz SILVER MOUNT HOOD 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES
004 2010 5oz SILVER GRAND CANYON 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES
005 2010 5oz SILVER YOSEMITE 25C MS 68 EARLY RELEASES
PCGS Registries
Box of 20
SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
I have run into a couple of listings on Ebay advertising sealed AMARK sets. When I noticed that the box looked opened in the pictures I asked a couple of them and was told, "yes the box was opened but the coins are sealed in their PCGS holders."
<< <i>I have run into a couple of listings on Ebay advertising sealed AMARK sets. When I noticed that the box looked opened in the pictures I asked a couple of them and was told, "yes the box was opened but the coins are sealed in their PCGS holders."
Sounds like a recipe for "item not as described" to me...even if it's the buyer's fault for not reading the fine print....
Sealed Sets, unlike PCGS policy, are not eligible for ER designation. Good to know.
Miles
<< <i>I have run into a couple of listings on Ebay advertising sealed AMARK sets. When I noticed that the box looked opened in the pictures I asked a couple of them and was told, "yes the box was opened but the coins are sealed in their PCGS holders."
People like that give some of us legit "sealed box" sellers a bad name
I would liken them to an amateur flipper.....they really don't know what they are talking about but because they can read a little, and someone told them about the money to be had, they go and do things like this.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
HOT SPRINGS 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES
YOSEMITE 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES
GRAND CANYON 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES
MOUNT HOOD 25C MS 68 EARLY RELEASES
YELLOWSTONE 25C MS 68 EARLY RELEASES
If NGC is not giving out PL grades then you might as well send your coins in to PCGS for a higher quality grade on them.
<< <i>If NGC is not giving out PL grades then you might as well send your coins in to PCGS for a higher quality grade on them. >>
No more ER's....no more PL's....can't argue with that point
Of course....maybe my set was ALL PL's so they had to keep the percentages down with the other submissions
Box of 20
I don't know what NGC is doing. I just trust PCGS more and am willing to pay a little extra for their grades as it comes back to you plus when
you sell them.
001 2010 5oz SILVER HOT SPRINGS 25C MS 68 EARLY RELEASES
002 2010 5oz SILVER YOSEMITE 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES
003 2010 5oz SILVER YELLOWSTONE 25C MS 67 EARLY RELEASES
004 2010 5oz SILVER GRAND CANYON 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES
005 2010 5oz SILVER MOUNT HOOD 25C MS 69 EARLY RELEASES
These coins were from MBT. Feel pretty good about these. Certainly thought there was a shot at some PL's but as has been discussed those have disappeared.
On a side note I sent 10 2010 Proof SAE's 9 of 10 were PF70 and Two Taylor First Spouse Gold Proofs that were both PF70. Overall a great day.
eBay listings
2010 United States Mint America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set™ (SV2)
Price: $32.95
This product is temporarily unavailable.
Looks like the "real" silver quarters have sold out.
<< <i>FYI- PCGS is now grading PL and DM. I'll have them up with pictures in my ebay listings in a couple hours. >>
Do you have a link to your order page? This is great news!
<< <i>FYI:
2010 United States Mint America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set™ (SV2)
Price: $32.95
This product is temporarily unavailable.
Looks like the "real" silver quarters have sold out. >>
Probably just repricing.
<< <i>So what does that do to PCGS guarantee? If coins were submitted previously that should have been PL, then are resubmitted for proper grade...do they pay up? >>
What would they pay?
2010 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set
239,500 sold- 2,817 sold durring report period
2010 U.S. Mint Silver Proof Set
538,973 sold- 3,135 sold durring report period
2011 U.S. Mint Silver Proof Set
271,264 sold- 14,116 sold durring report period
<< <i>FYI- PCGS is now grading PL and DM. I'll have them up with pictures in my ebay listings in a couple hours. >>
Well, according to their customer service rep as of 5 minutes ago, that's not true.
I know it's been posted numerous times here, but searching for it will be a pain.
My membership ran out and I need to renew so I can get my ATB's graded.
I have 4 sets, one is A-mark slabbed.
Do I get the platinum and use the 8 vouchers for 2 sets? Will this work for the 15 day turn around or only the 30 day?
How do I submit the slabbed Amarks in and keep the first strike?
Thanks
<< <i>Well here it is, a complete set of PCGS MS 69 DMPL... eBay >>
Thanks, you beat me to it
I also have a PL set now listed. I will list a few individual PL's as well.
<< <i>Well, according to their customer service rep as of 5 minutes ago, that's not true. >>
They're using different coin numbers for these, so that may be where the confusion is. For example, here are the Grand Canyon coin numbers:
MS69: 505103
MS69PL: 506574
MS69DMPL: 506575
eBay listings
<< <i>Well here it is, a complete set of PCGS MS 69 DMPL... eBay >>
Since I truly believe NGC dogged me on my lastest prooflike submission I will be cracking those suckers out and sending them to PCGS!!! Oh the madness
<< <i>They're using different coin numbers for these, so that may be where the confusion is. For example, here are the Grand Canyon coin numbers:
MS69: 505103
MS69PL: 506574
MS69DMPL: 506575 >>
Did you submit under the original coin number and PCGS automatically assign the PL coin number?
<< <i>Need a little help.
I know it's been posted numerous times here, but searching for it will be a pain.
My membership ran out and I need to renew so I can get my ATB's graded.
I have 4 sets, one is A-mark slabbed.
Do I get the platinum and use the 8 vouchers for 2 sets? Will this work for the 15 day turn around or only the 30 day?
How do I submit the slabbed Amarks in and keep the first strike?
Thanks >>
The problem si that two sets contain 10 coins and not 8. You can only use the voucher for 8 coins and the all have to be on the same form. In order for you to use the voucher and submit 10 coins you will have to send in two forms, two handling fees and two return shippings. Also if you have half A-Mark slabs and half raw then that is two different forms anyway. One for a regrade and you don't pay FS fee, the other for grading adn you do pay the FS fee.
<< <i>Did you submit under the original coin number and PCGS automatically assign the PL coin number? >>
PCGS did it automatically. They told me the fees were changing, but they didn't mention the new grades in advance.
eBay listings
<< <i>They told me the fees were changing >>
What fees are changing?
mbogoman
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
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<< <i>They told me the fees were changing >>
What fees are changing? >>
Through the Bulk department, the fees had been GEM BU at one price and MS69 at another. All they said was that there making them the same price. That seemed odd at the time, but makes sense now that they're doing PLs, and those fees are significantly higher.
eBay listings
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<< <i>Well here it is, a complete set of PCGS MS 69 DMPL... eBay >>
Thanks, you beat me to it
I also have a PL set now listed. I will list a few individual PL's as well.
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Just curious, how many raw coins did you have to inspect to get a complete DMPL set?
One more question - for those who have received a DG set, how long did it take to get your set from the time your check was cashed?
mbogoman
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
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<< <i>They're using different coin numbers for these, so that may be where the confusion is. For example, here are the Grand Canyon coin numbers:
MS69: 505103
MS69PL: 506574
MS69DMPL: 506575 >>
Did you submit under the original coin number and PCGS automatically assign the PL coin number? >>
Am wondering the same.... all the pics i see on ebay al look the same.... I know it is always better to see in hand but, I dont get it or see it for that matter.
Do I just tell the TPG what I want.
<< <i>Anybody check the DMPL Pop Reports yet?
Yes, I did.
I noticed there are no pictures of the Washington side of the coins on Ebay for PCGS PL and DMPL coins. Are these also frosted and mirrored? I have yet to see one myself. It would be great to see some pics of what PCGS considers DMPL with shots of both sides of the coin.