I would think that some dealers have the luxury or good fortune of having regular buyers who don't "shop" cards so to speak. Also they have a name or reputuation that affords them the ability to sell higher than the balance of the field in most times. Even when I was doing mail order buying for decades before ebay there were always some dealers who could ask and get more for their cards. Ebay to a large extent has changed that playing field for the buyer who is content to be patient whether by need or desire. Now your cards that are BIN priced at VCP average are not "overpriced" per se but the reality is that many cards when available are trading for significantly below VCP average and some buyers are waiting it out. Now as the thread points out as more listings migrate to the BIN format and cards @ auction become harder to find all boats may rise again if demand increases and the supply is mostly constrained to BIN listings. However one thing that the BIN listings for your everyday sellers are going to have to overcome is the perception that most BIN listings are ridiculously overpriced as many of them are. In fairness to all sellers most of those are listed IMO by people who are less interested in selling items through ebay than soliciting offers on their sizeable inventory.
<< <i>I would think that some dealers have the luxury or good fortune of having regular buyers who don't "shop" cards so to speak. Also they have a name or reputuation that affords them the ability to sell higher than the balance of the field in most times. Even when I was doing mail order buying for decades before ebay there were always some dealers who could ask and get more for their cards. Ebay to a large extent has changed that playing field for the buyer who is content to be patient whether by need or desire. Now your cards that are BIN priced at VCP average are not "overpriced" per se but the reality is that many cards when available are trading for significantly below VCP average and some buyers are waiting it out. Now as the thread points out as more listings migrate to the BIN format and cards @ auction become harder to find all boats may rise again if demand increases and the supply is mostly constrained to BIN listings. However one thing that the BIN listings for your everyday sellers are going to have to overcome is the perception that most BIN listings are ridiculously overpriced as many of them are. In fairness to all sellers most of those are listed IMO by people who are less interested in selling items through ebay than soliciting offers on their sizeable inventory. >>
Let's try not to clutter this thread with rational, sensible posts .
<<However one thing that the BIN listings for your everyday sellers are going to have to overcome is the perception that most BIN listings are ridiculously overpriced as many of them are. >>
Exactly. How many people in this post alone have stated they filter out BINs? I know I do. Of course, I'm finding it harder and harder to find my price, but . . . once a cheapskate, always a cheapskate.
<< <i>I would think that some dealers have the luxury or good fortune of having regular buyers who don't "shop" cards so to speak. Also they have a name or reputuation that affords them the ability to sell higher than the balance of the field in most times. Even when I was doing mail order buying for decades before ebay there were always some dealers who could ask and get more for their cards. Ebay to a large extent has changed that playing field for the buyer who is content to be patient whether by need or desire. Now your cards that are BIN priced at VCP average are not "overpriced" per se but the reality is that many cards when available are trading for significantly below VCP average and some buyers are waiting it out. Now as the thread points out as more listings migrate to the BIN format and cards @ auction become harder to find all boats may rise again if demand increases and the supply is mostly constrained to BIN listings. However one thing that the BIN listings for your everyday sellers are going to have to overcome is the perception that most BIN listings are ridiculously overpriced as many of them are. In fairness to all sellers most of those are listed IMO by people who are less interested in selling items through ebay than soliciting offers on their sizeable inventory. >>
It's about time then for that overpriced BIN attitude to change and it will take time as more and more sensible dealers begin using BIN's and staying with BIN's. Excellent observation by the way. chaz
The reality is that there are two approaches to a BIN listing. The first which has been the prevalent one from the outset; a way to economically list your inventory at ridiculous prices and wait for your fish to come downstream. This approach used by MANY caused the BIN listing portion of ebay to quickly become irrelevant to your average card buyer, cheapskate or not. The second, an ebay seller who has migrated to the BIN listing format to keep from taking less for his cards than he wants but who does not want to use an auction with a higher opener or a reserve for some reason. It is the second seller's problem to overcome not the buyers.
Chaz + Bobby = Rotting Inventory and sour grapes >>
Classic cheapskate, bottomfeeder. chaz >>
No worries though chaz, with your killer cards and prices, you won't have to burden yourself with my meager sums of cash. I have already purchased from bobby (excellent transactions), but that can be avoided in the future.
The bottom line is unless you have a super rare item that is highly desired and severall people want it really bad, the buy it now feature brings higher dollars across the board.
It takes severall very interested parties to have success with an auction and only one with a buy it now or best offer.
If you run through a search for most items you will see much higher sold prices in most cases. The difference is there are tons of items that simply role every month and unless you need to unload it the cost to carry for many is much less then the risk of giving it away.
The buy it now items that appear to be drastically over priced in many cases the seller realizes this and is hoping that someone will make an offer and pay more then they might normally becuase of the drastic savings from the offered price.
If you want to move an item then using a very reasonable buy it now or an auction is the only way to go to get it done fast.
I think many are wise to use the buy it now and be patient waiting for the right buyer rather then taking the chance the right buyer(s) come along during a very short time span.
Chaz + Bobby = Rotting Inventory and sour grapes >>
Classic cheapskate, bottomfeeder. chaz >>
No worries though chaz, with your killer cards and prices, you won't have to burden yourself with my meager sums of cash. I have already purchased from bobby (excellent transactions), but that can be avoided in the future. >>
<< <i>For $6.00/ year you can show off your card on the world's largest showcase.
However, if you have no intention of selling and price your item too high then you can do more harm than good. >>
Not at $24.99, I just did it for a PSA 7 which was selling through auctions at an avg of around 4 -6 bucks, sold with a BIN for $24.99 so there..... chaz
<< <i>For $6.00/ year you can show off your card on the world's largest showcase.
However, if you have no intention of selling and price your item too high then you can do more harm than good. >>
Not at $24.99, I just did it for a PSA 7 which was selling through auctions at an avg of around 4 -6 bucks, sold with a BIN for $24.99 so there..... chaz >>
<< <i>For $6.00/ year you can show off your card on the world's largest showcase.
However, if you have no intention of selling and price your item too high then you can do more harm than good. >>
I would agree with this post to the extent that it is this type of "seller" who has poisoned the well for BINs in the short term at least. There are many sellers who I will not even bother to look at their listings bc of this approach and for a large portion of my buying life on ebay (10 years) I have routinely edited out the BIN listings bc of this. So to that extent they are doing harm to themselves and others who use the BIN. I for one am not having trouble finding cards to buy in the regular auction format.
<< <i>For $6.00/ year you can show off your card on the world's largest showcase.
However, if you have no intention of selling and price your item too high then you can do more harm than good. >>
I would agree with this post to the extent that it is this type of "seller" who has poisoned the well for BINs in the short term at least. There are many sellers who I will not even bother to look at their listings bc of this approach and for a large portion of my buying life on ebay (10 years) I have routinely edited out the BIN listings bc of this. So to that extent they are doing harm to themselves and others who use the BIN. I for one am not having trouble finding cards to buy in the regular auction format. >>
I got another cheapskate bottomfeeder on the hook here boys !!!!...what should we do??? Use him for bait or throw em' back in the sewer..he smells pretty bad...LOL chaz
Here is a example of why you don't see more auctions on ebay and if you don't like this example I can give a few more.
story: I bought a large amount of baseball memorabilia in 1971 or 72 it mainly consisted of Cincinnati Reds memorabilia World series programs ticket stubs (1919,1939,1940) pins and some other oddball items, 4 of these items were 1939 HOF dedication medals, I ran one on ebay a couple years ago starting bid 9.99 sold for like 28.00 it had a hole in it.
Finally found some info on the medal from someone on these boards, and was directed to an auction house that sold one with a hole in it in worse shape then mine. the auction house medal sold for 470.00 + buyers premium in May of 2009.
Now I have ran this one with no Hole in great condition for a start bid of 379 to 399 probably 6 to 7 times now on ebay with no interest in it at all not even a question or even some low ball offer. long story short it will be consigned to an auction house. wish I had the one with hole in it back.
please don't tell me to start the auction at 99 cents and find the true market already done that 28.00 vs 470. right now I have some stuff (roughly 20 items not sports related) on eaby at 99 cent start and if they don't have bids with 12 to 18 hours to go, I will cancel all of them.
I would not be selling anything right now on eaby if I didn't need the money and if I had the money I would be buyer . truly a buyers market right now and I am not just speaking about sports cards.
This is exactly where the advent of snipe bidding is killing auctions. If you don't have any bids with an hour to go you will cancel the auction with the natural concern of it selling for an extremely low amount.
There may in reality be three bidders ready to snipe but becuase no one has expressed any interest the risk is very high to not cancel them and instead eat the small cost of the auction.
I am quite aware if you want to win an item a snipe bid can be very effective but no one is stealing cards with snipes they are paying full price or more.
People should realize that we are not just talking about one market here. There are literally thousands of markets within sports cards....and for the most part all were created by the registry.
Dealers can sit and wait for two collector-competitors to drive a card up...but the longer you wait, the higher pop the card becomes.
<< <i>This is exactly where the advent of snipe bidding is killing auctions. If you don't have any bids with an hour to go you will cancel the auction with the natural concern of it selling for an extremely low amount.
There may in reality be three bidders ready to snipe but becuase no one has expressed any interest the risk is very high to not cancel them and instead eat the small cost of the auction.
I am quite aware if you want to win an item a snipe bid can be very effective but no one is stealing cards with snipes they are paying full price or more. >>
When you begin an auction at 0.99 you are agreeing to let your item sell for at least that.
Most of the big bids are in the final few minutes and seconds. Anything over 0.99 should be considered a bonus. Otherwise, start the auctions higher.
There are plenty of sets where you are not going to see an explosion in pop reports for a given card.
I won a 1982 Wrestling All Stars Ricky Steamboat PSA 9 recently and trust me you will never see a ton of these. I have 18 of this card and got three PSA 8's out of the best of the bunch I subbed.
You mentioned recently you would pay huge money for a Mike Bossy O-pee-chee card in a 10 and there are none of those in a 10. If you are simply referring to rare commons then yes an increase in the population reports could hurt there value but a blanket statement is not warented when it comes to all cards.
The 1985 Topps Hogan has cooled off dramatically and I am glad I sold all of mine when they were peaking. Pure luck.
The 1982 Wrestling All Stars Hogan in PSA 9 or BGS 9 will turn into a feeding frenzy I promise. There are no PSA 10's.
As I stated severall pages ago big money consistant cards can go all day in an auction but many items will sell for far less in auction format currently.
For what it's worth, here's some recent examples of BIN vs. auction. I collect 1950 Bowman baseball in PSA 9. I just won a #15 Al Kozar PSA 9 for $263 on ebay. At the same time there is another PSA 9 of Kozar on ebay with a BIN of $925. SMR has the card valued at $450. I feel I got a great buy, but also the BIN price on the other is ridiculous. A short while ago I saw two 1950 Bowman PSA 9's that I really liked that had BIN's of $300. The SMR on these is $250 (2nd series). I contacted the seller with an offer of about 25% of his asking price and he agreed.. I paid slightly below SMR but for me it was a good buy. I needed them, they are beautiful mint cards and also low populations. Buying graded cards is a risk if you are looking to sell later at a profit. The pops generally increase with time, increasing the supply. I can make a good argument that on real vintage such as the examples I've listed, the impact will be less. It's a matter of collector vs. investor, and of what value you place on your collection. I certainly take future value into consideration, but I am willing to pay a solid price for a card I want. I agree with several posters that it can be fruitful to contact BIN sellers and make reasonable offers.
Thanks Rich!! Those were my two 1950 Bowman PSA 9's that he bought from! As long as I make a little more than what I have in them, I am happy and will let them fly! I don't mind leaving money on the table, and if Rich can make some when he sells them, more power to him! What kills me is sellers like 707 and yepbg. They have ABSURDLY high prices on stuff (think of buying a 4 pack of toilet paper for $20), and if you make them a very fair offer on stuff, they either ignore your offer altogether, like you insulted them or something, or offer a small token off their price ($5 off a $500 asking price).......I have gotten real handy with filtering out their posts in my card hunt, and as far as I'm concerned, can keep all their cards until we all turn into a pile of sand/sawdust.....
<< <i>Thanks Rich!! Those were my two 1950 Bowman PSA 9's that he bought from! As long as I make a little more than what I have in them, I am happy and will let them fly! I don't mind leaving money on the table, and if Rich can make some when he sells them, more power to him! What kills me is sellers like 707 and yepbg. They have ABSURDLY high prices on stuff (think of buying a 4 pack of toilet paper for $20), and if you make them a very fair offer on stuff, they either ignore your offer altogether, like you insulted them or something, or offer a small token off their price ($5 off a $500 asking price).......I have gotten real handy with filtering out their posts in my card hunt, and as far as I'm concerned, can keep all their cards until we all turn into a pile of sand/sawdust..... >>
I filter out all BIN and look at auctions only. I am more of cheapskate in my buying. That is actually the part that I enjoy, trying to find a bargain.
I also firmly believe the notion that prices will return is a farce. The economy will not have a decent recovery for another three years. It will take that long to get unemployment around 7%. During that three year span, PSA will be on the hook to generate revenue and we will see a drop in the pricepoint of grading cards to entice collectors to continue subbing.
The 4.25 special is the tip of the iceberg, in two years we will be seeing 3 dollar subs. The effect of this will be larger pop reports and greater supply. The demand may come back in three years, but at that time the supply will be double of what it is now.
So, everyone can continue with there 2006 BIN prices if they want to, but the will see fewer and fewer sales.
The simple fact is that the graded card bubble has burst and prices will never return to what they were.
As a collector, this is good news to me. I will pick up dirt cheap cards when I can and be happy with that.
There is no doubt your comments about the unemployment rate are spot on.
I was at an investment conference in Atlanta a month ago where I had the pleasure to hear the chief economist speak for John McCain's campaign and he showed us some extremely interesting unemployment data.
There have been 9 major financial crisis since 1977 and in each it took at least six years for the unemployment rate to fall to double the low of the economic boom.
We reached a low of 3.9 so if history repeats itself it will take at least until 2014 for the rate to fall below 6.8%. Spain's unemployment rate hase never reached that point and it is 33 years later.
Cards are clearly items of discretion so the longer the unemployment rate stays elevated the more collectors who at some point will either be forced to stop buying or part ways with items of value.
In terms of the supply of graded cards it remains to be seen how many high cards are sitting either unopened or laying dormant is someone's closet and that is a true unknown.
I actually think the lowering of the grading rates is a good thing becuase it is cleary a positive for set collectors. I sub wrestling cards and many are not even worth the cost of grading raw but becuase of these specials I can sub them to complete sets without a huge out of pocket expense.
<< <i>I filter out all BIN and look at auctions only. I am more of cheapskate in my buying. That is actually the part that I enjoy, trying to find a bargain.
I also firmly believe the notion that prices will return is a farce. The economy will not have a decent recovery for another three years. It will take that long to get unemployment around 7%. During that three year span, PSA will be on the hook to generate revenue and we will see a drop in the pricepoint of grading cards to entice collectors to continue subbing.
The 4.25 special is the tip of the iceberg, in two years we will be seeing 3 dollar subs. The effect of this will be larger pop reports and greater supply. The demand may come back in three years, but at that time the supply will be double of what it is now.
So, everyone can continue with there 2006 BIN prices if they want to, but the will see fewer and fewer sales.
The simple fact is that the graded card bubble has burst and prices will never return to what they were.
As a collector, this is good news to me. I will pick up dirt cheap cards when I can and be happy with that. >>
Mark it down...another cheap skate bottom feeder....it's guys like this who are the enemy... but we will wait him out smoke him out till he comes begging for all of our vintage PSA 7's and PSA 8's that he can't get anymore !!! All dealers and collectors UNITE against this bargain hunting, cheap skate menace !!!!!!! LOL chaz
<< <i>I filter out all BIN and look at auctions only. I am more of cheapskate in my buying. That is actually the part that I enjoy, trying to find a bargain.
I also firmly believe the notion that prices will return is a farce. The economy will not have a decent recovery for another three years. It will take that long to get unemployment around 7%. During that three year span, PSA will be on the hook to generate revenue and we will see a drop in the pricepoint of grading cards to entice collectors to continue subbing.
The 4.25 special is the tip of the iceberg, in two years we will be seeing 3 dollar subs. The effect of this will be larger pop reports and greater supply. The demand may come back in three years, but at that time the supply will be double of what it is now.
So, everyone can continue with there 2006 BIN prices if they want to, but the will see fewer and fewer sales.
The simple fact is that the graded card bubble has burst and prices will never return to what they were.
As a collector, this is good news to me. I will pick up dirt cheap cards when I can and be happy with that. >>
Agreed. However it will take more than $3 subs to get me subbing again. PSA would have to drop their membership fee first, then i would think about gambling my money away.
<< <i>This is exactly where the advent of snipe bidding is killing auctions. If you don't have any bids with an hour to go you will cancel the auction with the natural concern of it selling for an extremely low amount.
There may in reality be three bidders ready to snipe but becuase no one has expressed any interest the risk is very high to not cancel them and instead eat the small cost of the auction.
I am quite aware if you want to win an item a snipe bid can be very effective but no one is stealing cards with snipes they are paying full price or more. >>
When you begin an auction at 0.99 you are agreeing to let your item sell for at least that.
Most of the big bids are in the final few minutes and seconds. Anything over 0.99 should be considered a bonus. Otherwise, start the auctions higher. >>
if you noticed I said 20 auctions not sport related some of the 20 auctions are silver dollars that I can still spend for 1 dollar or take down to the local scrap dealer and get 20.00 a piece for. I just forgot this was a holiday weekend. so I should just smile and sell one for 99 cents because snipe bids failed which has happened before, or start them at 20.00 a piece which costs like 40 cents more per auction and have no one bid. it is a catch 22 screwed if you do and screwed if you don't
I remember a yr or 2 ago having one low pop psa 8 72 topps BB card started it at 9.99 ran it twice on 7 day auctions no bids then ran it for 99 cents and it ended up at 52.00 (go figure). I also remember running a 72 PSA 9 Johnny Bench @99 cents and ended up selling for the new lowest ever VCP price of 116.00 (go figure) lost like 90.00 bucks on that one. ebay is unpredictable at best and as said before the best match mumbo jumbo isn't helping sellers either. If the sellers keep getting beat up and giving stuff away on auctions ebay will turn into 99.5% BIN or very high starting bids & .05% 99 cent auctions for cards that aren't worth a quarter except the select few exceptions Mantles, Jordan, Gretzky, ect ect.
The idea that every seller uses a shill bidder to drive up prices and this being the reason to use nothing but snipe bid is a joke, I don't believe the problem is really that bad, yes there are a few sellers that do use shill bidders and hopefully ebay will remove them, I would say 99.8% of sellers don't use shill bidders.
The idea that you should be able to buy/win a graded card card at 10% to 20% back (VCP) of what the last one sold for is a joke also, if everything keeps going down in price. Collectors & sellers will be few & far between.
I give credit to sellers that have the guts/balls to start every auction at 99 cents and let it ride, those sellers are few and far between even 4SC doesn't run all their auctions at 99 cent start bid anymore.
whether anyone will admit it or not 99.9% of collectors want to see the value of their collection go up in value or at worst stay the same.
I remember over the years hearing collectors of other items saying I collect for fun not for value and wish all the dealers would go away, so I could get item xyz for 5 or 10 bucks, and then the bottom falls out and these same collectors are screaming the loudest what happened why is item xyz only selling for a dollar and nobody even wants it for a dollar. well they got their wish.
So all you lowballers & cheapskates be careful what you wish for it might come true.
Happy Thanksgiving to all, and whatever you collect may it go up in value.
<< <i>This is exactly where the advent of snipe bidding is killing auctions. If you don't have any bids with an hour to go you will cancel the auction with the natural concern of it selling for an extremely low amount.
There may in reality be three bidders ready to snipe but becuase no one has expressed any interest the risk is very high to not cancel them and instead eat the small cost of the auction.
I am quite aware if you want to win an item a snipe bid can be very effective but no one is stealing cards with snipes they are paying full price or more. >>
When you begin an auction at 0.99 you are agreeing to let your item sell for at least that.
Most of the big bids are in the final few minutes and seconds. Anything over 0.99 should be considered a bonus. Otherwise, start the auctions higher. >>
if you noticed I said 20 auctions not sport related some of the 20 auctions are silver dollars that I can still spend for 1 dollar or take down to the local scrap dealer and get 20.00 a piece for. I just forgot this was a holiday weekend. so I should just smile and sell one for 99 cents because snipe bids failed which has happened before, or start them at 20.00 a piece which costs like 40 cents more per auction and have no one bid. it is a catch 22 screwed if you do and screwed if you don't
I remember a yr or 2 ago having one low pop psa 8 72 topps BB card started it at 9.99 ran it twice on 7 day auctions no bids then ran it for 99 cents and it ended up at 52.00 (go figure). I also remember running a 72 PSA 9 Johnny Bench @99 cents and ended up selling for the new lowest ever VCP price of 116.00 (go figure) lost like 90.00 bucks on that one. ebay is unpredictable at best and as said before the best match mumbo jumbo isn't helping sellers either. If the sellers keep getting beat up and giving stuff away on auctions ebay will turn into 99.5% BIN or very high starting bids & .05% 99 cent auctions for cards that aren't worth a quarter except the select few exceptions Mantles, Jordan, Gretzky, ect ect.
The idea that every seller uses a shill bidder to drive up prices and this being the reason to use nothing but snipe bid is a joke, I don't believe the problem is really that bad, yes there are a few sellers that do use shill bidders and hopefully ebay will remove them, I would say 99.8% of sellers don't use shill bidders.
The idea that you should be able to buy/win a graded card card at 10% to 20% back (VCP) of what the last one sold for is a joke also, if everything keeps going down in price. Collectors & sellers will be few & far between.
I give credit to sellers that have the guts/balls to start every auction at 99 cents and let it ride, those sellers are few and far between even 4SC doesn't run all their auctions at 99 cent start bid anymore.
whether anyone will admit it or not 99.9% of collectors want to see the value of their collection go up in value or at worst stay the same.
I remember over the years hearing collectors of other items saying I collect for fun not for value and wish all the dealers would go away, so I could get item xyz for 5 or 10 bucks, and then the bottom falls out and these same collectors are screaming the loudest what happened why is item xyz only selling for a dollar and nobody even wants it for a dollar. well they got their wish.
So all you lowballers & cheapskates be careful what you wish for it might come true.
Happy Thanksgiving to all, and whatever you collect may it go up in value.
D Peck, an OPC Bossy # 115 is in a totally different category than an '82 Hogan. If a PSA 10 hit the market, it would sell big because it appeals to player set collectors, company set collectors, HOF RC set collectors, et cetera.
It really is a tough issue to get a 10 on (and a real issue, not something that was produced in a guy's basement - literally)
Yes, BIN's are 90% of the listings. I always check the BIN listings. You can find cards listed with a BIN for less than what they sell for at auction every once in a while.
Mullins trust me if a PSA 10 every hit EBAY for Hogan it would be $3,000 to $5,000.
There is no doubt there is a bigger collector base for hockey but scarcity rules the day and it is going to be almost impossible for a Hogan to ever grade a 10 and if a PSA version surfaces I will be bidding heavily.
Remember when there is no supply of something and there is huge demand, the price can go a long way. Most of the high end wrestling stuff lately has been going to bidders with almost all baseball and basketball bids.
<< <i>BTW - I believe eBay lets you list the first 100 auctions per month at any starting price for free...at least they do for me. >>
That's a promotion going on until early January which compliments the usual 100 free auctions a month if you start them at .99 or lower. I also believe they are doing free BINs now as well (but it ends soon I think)
<< <i>BTW - I believe eBay lets you list the first 100 auctions per month at any starting price for free...at least they do for me. >>
That's a promotion going on until early January which compliments the usual 100 free auctions a month if you start them at .99 or lower. I also believe they are doing free BINs now as well (but it ends soon I think) >>
ah, that sucks. eh well, get it while it is there.
diamondman - just going to have to factor that cost into everything -- even if an item doesn't sell in a store, you still have to pay for the shelf space.
Americans Still Abandoning Online Purchases Due To Security
Majority of Americans shop online
November 18, 2010
By Mike Sachoff
Nearly two-thirds (64%) of Americans have not made an online purchase because of security concerns, according to a new poll by the National Cyber Security Alliance (NCSA).
When asked to explain why they did not make that purchase, 60 percent said it was because they were not sure if the site was secure, 51.4 percent were worried about providing information requested, and 48.4 percent felt a website requested more information than was necessary for the transaction.
The poll found 69.3 percent of Americans research potential purchases on the Internet, 68 percent make purchases online, 62.4 percent make online payments, and 38 percent buy items from online auction sites.
Those researching potential purchases from their phones also grew to 16 percent, up from 9 percent in 2009. A recent study published by NCSA and Norton by Symantec found that 87 percent of Americans felt safer going online with their PCs than with their phones.
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Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
Hopefully, the useful part of this wave will reach the US in 2011. Legislation may be required to allow sellers to freely offer ANY and ALL payment methods, but it is possible that it could happen inside of the administrative rule/regulation provisions of the 2010 consumer protection and financial legislation.
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PayPal No Longer Mandatory on eBay France
By Ina Steiner / auctionbytes.com
November 25, 2010
eBay sellers in France are no longer required to offer PayPal as a payment method in their listings, effective November 16, 2010. eBay France had begun requiring all sellers accept PayPal last October. In some cases, sellers will still be required to accept PayPal - for example, if they have recently received negative feedback from buyers.
The eBay France announcement informed sellers who use eBay's Turbo Lister listing tool that they must get an updated version of the software if they no longer wished to offer PayPal as a payment method.
According to an AuctionBytes reader in Canada, French sellers had mounted a campaign to have eBay rescind its PayPal payment policy. He wrote, "Thanks to strong French legislation, eBay had no choice but to back off," adding, "Needless to say, many French sellers are ecstatic."
Two years ago, eBay had proposed banning all methods of payment except for its own PayPal service on its Australian marketplace, but was forced by the ACCC government regulatory agency to back down, and earlier this year, it, too, was pressured to stop making PayPal a mandatory payment method.
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Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
It would be interesting to note what percentage of those auctions are "true" 99 cent auctions, as opposed to an auction starting at say $599 for a $300 card......
<< <i>Hopefully, the useful part of this wave will reach the US in 2011. Legislation may be required to allow sellers to freely offer ANY and ALL payment methods, but it is possible that it could happen inside of the administrative rule/regulation provisions of the 2010 consumer protection and financial legislation.
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PayPal No Longer Mandatory on eBay France
By Ina Steiner / auctionbytes.com
November 25, 2010
eBay sellers in France are no longer required to offer PayPal as a payment method in their listings, effective November 16, 2010. eBay France had begun requiring all sellers accept PayPal last October. In some cases, sellers will still be required to accept PayPal - for example, if they have recently received negative feedback from buyers.
The eBay France announcement informed sellers who use eBay's Turbo Lister listing tool that they must get an updated version of the software if they no longer wished to offer PayPal as a payment method.
According to an AuctionBytes reader in Canada, French sellers had mounted a campaign to have eBay rescind its PayPal payment policy. He wrote, "Thanks to strong French legislation, eBay had no choice but to back off," adding, "Needless to say, many French sellers are ecstatic."
Two years ago, eBay had proposed banning all methods of payment except for its own PayPal service on its Australian marketplace, but was forced by the ACCC government regulatory agency to back down, and earlier this year, it, too, was pressured to stop making PayPal a mandatory payment method.
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Storm- it's what we have been saying all along ...that Pigpal is just that .......a fat pig monopoly that has to be carved up (who the hell do they think they are stipulating that you can only use Pigpal as the sole source of payment...what happened to consumer protection?...ridiculous). As I see, you have also listed 2 other auction alternatives to Feebay (ecrater and bonanzil), these are worth looking into and I plan on doing just that. Thanks. chaz
It would be interesting to note what percentage of those auctions are "true" 99 cent auctions, as opposed to an auction starting at say $599 for a $300 card.....
A more interesting count would then be the percentage of "true" auctions which lack bid activity from the auctioneer, consignor, friend or acquaintance.
Storm- it's what we have been saying all along ...that Pigpal is just that .......a fat pig monopoly that has to be carved up (who the hell do they think they are stipulating that you can only use Pigpal as the sole source of payment...what happened to consumer protection?...ridiculous). As I see, you have also listed 2 other auction alternatives to Feebay (ecrater and bonanzil), these are worth looking into and I plan on doing just that. Thanks. chaz
I can't wait to see the auction results going into VCP from the entrepreneurs running "true" 99 cent auctions on ecrater and bonanzil.
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<< <i>I would think that some dealers have the luxury or good fortune of having regular buyers who don't "shop" cards so to speak. Also they have a name or reputuation that affords them the ability to sell higher than the balance of the field in most times. Even when I was doing mail order buying for decades before ebay there were always some dealers who could ask and get more for their cards. Ebay to a large extent has changed that playing field for the buyer who is content to be patient whether by need or desire. Now your cards that are BIN priced at VCP average are not "overpriced" per se but the reality is that many cards when available are trading for significantly below VCP average and some buyers are waiting it out. Now as the thread points out as more listings migrate to the BIN format and cards @ auction become harder to find all boats may rise again if demand increases and the supply is mostly constrained to BIN listings. However one thing that the BIN listings for your everyday sellers are going to have to overcome is the perception that most BIN listings are ridiculously overpriced as many of them are. In fairness to all sellers most of those are listed IMO by people who are less interested in selling items through ebay than soliciting offers on their sizeable inventory. >>
Let's try not to clutter this thread with rational, sensible posts
<<However one thing that the BIN listings for your everyday sellers are going to have to overcome is the perception that most BIN listings are ridiculously overpriced as many of them are. >>
Exactly. How many people in this post alone have stated they filter out BINs? I know I do. Of course, I'm finding it harder and harder to find my price, but . . . once a cheapskate, always a cheapskate.
<< <i>I would think that some dealers have the luxury or good fortune of having regular buyers who don't "shop" cards so to speak. Also they have a name or reputuation that affords them the ability to sell higher than the balance of the field in most times. Even when I was doing mail order buying for decades before ebay there were always some dealers who could ask and get more for their cards. Ebay to a large extent has changed that playing field for the buyer who is content to be patient whether by need or desire. Now your cards that are BIN priced at VCP average are not "overpriced" per se but the reality is that many cards when available are trading for significantly below VCP average and some buyers are waiting it out. Now as the thread points out as more listings migrate to the BIN format and cards @ auction become harder to find all boats may rise again if demand increases and the supply is mostly constrained to BIN listings. However one thing that the BIN listings for your everyday sellers are going to have to overcome is the perception that most BIN listings are ridiculously overpriced as many of them are. In fairness to all sellers most of those are listed IMO by people who are less interested in selling items through ebay than soliciting offers on their sizeable inventory. >>
It's about time then for that overpriced BIN attitude to change and it will take time as more and more sensible dealers begin using BIN's and staying with BIN's. Excellent observation by the way. chaz
<< <i>Cheapskates = $$$$ in hand and buying
Chaz + Bobby = Rotting Inventory and sour grapes >>
Classic cheapskate, bottomfeeder. chaz
The reality is that there are two approaches to a BIN listing. The first which has been the prevalent one from the outset; a way to economically list your inventory at ridiculous prices and wait for your fish to come downstream. This approach used by MANY caused the BIN listing portion of ebay to quickly become irrelevant to your average card buyer, cheapskate or not. The second, an ebay seller who has migrated to the BIN listing format to keep from taking less for his cards than he wants but who does not want to use an auction with a higher opener or a reserve for some reason. It is the second seller's problem to overcome not the buyers.
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<< <i>Cheapskates = $$$$ in hand and buying
Chaz + Bobby = Rotting Inventory and sour grapes >>
Classic cheapskate, bottomfeeder. chaz >>
No worries though chaz, with your killer cards and prices, you won't have to burden yourself with my meager sums of cash. I have already purchased from bobby (excellent transactions), but that can be avoided in the future.
However, if you have no intention of selling and price your item too high then you can do more harm than good.
It takes severall very interested parties to have success with an auction and only one with a buy it now or best offer.
If you run through a search for most items you will see much higher sold prices in most cases. The difference is there are tons of items that simply role every month and unless you need to unload it the cost to carry for many is much less then the risk of giving it away.
The buy it now items that appear to be drastically over priced in many cases the seller realizes this and is hoping that someone will make an offer and pay more then they might normally becuase of the drastic savings from the offered price.
If you want to move an item then using a very reasonable buy it now or an auction is the only way to go to get it done fast.
I think many are wise to use the buy it now and be patient waiting for the right buyer rather then taking the chance the right buyer(s) come along during a very short time span.
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<< <i>Cheapskates = $$$$ in hand and buying
Chaz + Bobby = Rotting Inventory and sour grapes >>
Classic cheapskate, bottomfeeder. chaz >>
No worries though chaz, with your killer cards and prices, you won't have to burden yourself with my meager sums of cash. I have already purchased from bobby (excellent transactions), but that can be avoided in the future. >>
Classic cheapskate, bottomfeeder. chaz
<< <i>For $6.00/ year you can show off your card on the world's largest showcase.
However, if you have no intention of selling and price your item too high then you can do more harm than good. >>
Not at $24.99, I just did it for a PSA 7 which was selling through auctions at an avg of around 4 -6 bucks, sold with a BIN for $24.99 so there..... chaz
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<< <i>For $6.00/ year you can show off your card on the world's largest showcase.
However, if you have no intention of selling and price your item too high then you can do more harm than good. >>
Not at $24.99, I just did it for a PSA 7 which was selling through auctions at an avg of around 4 -6 bucks, sold with a BIN for $24.99 so there..... chaz >>
Go for you, keep it up!
<< <i>For $6.00/ year you can show off your card on the world's largest showcase.
However, if you have no intention of selling and price your item too high then you can do more harm than good. >>
I would agree with this post to the extent that it is this type of "seller" who has poisoned the well for BINs in the short term at least.
There are many sellers who I will not even bother to look at their listings bc of this approach and for a large portion of my buying life on ebay (10 years) I have routinely edited out the BIN listings bc of this.
So to that extent they are doing harm to themselves and others who use the BIN.
I for one am not having trouble finding cards to buy in the regular auction format.
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<< <i>For $6.00/ year you can show off your card on the world's largest showcase.
However, if you have no intention of selling and price your item too high then you can do more harm than good. >>
I would agree with this post to the extent that it is this type of "seller" who has poisoned the well for BINs in the short term at least.
There are many sellers who I will not even bother to look at their listings bc of this approach and for a large portion of my buying life on ebay (10 years) I have routinely edited out the BIN listings bc of this.
So to that extent they are doing harm to themselves and others who use the BIN.
I for one am not having trouble finding cards to buy in the regular auction format. >>
I got another cheapskate bottomfeeder on the hook here boys !!!!...what should we do??? Use him for bait or throw em' back in the sewer..he smells pretty bad...LOL chaz
story: I bought a large amount of baseball memorabilia in 1971 or 72 it mainly consisted of Cincinnati Reds memorabilia World series programs ticket stubs (1919,1939,1940) pins and some other oddball items, 4 of these items were 1939 HOF dedication medals, I ran one on ebay a couple years ago starting bid 9.99 sold for like 28.00 it had a hole in it.
Finally found some info on the medal from someone on these boards, and was directed to an auction house that sold one with a hole in it in worse shape then mine. the auction house medal sold for 470.00 + buyers premium in May of 2009.
Now I have ran this one with no Hole in great condition for a start bid of 379 to 399 probably 6 to 7 times now on ebay with no interest in it at all not even a question or even some low ball offer. long story short it will be consigned to an auction house. wish I had the one with hole in it back.
please don't tell me to start the auction at 99 cents and find the true market already done that 28.00 vs 470.
right now I have some stuff (roughly 20 items not sports related) on eaby at 99 cent start and if they don't have bids with 12 to 18 hours to go, I will cancel all of them.
I would not be selling anything right now on eaby if I didn't need the money and if I had the money I would be buyer .
truly a buyers market right now and I am not just speaking about sports cards.
There may in reality be three bidders ready to snipe but becuase no one has expressed any interest the risk is very high to not cancel them and instead eat the small cost of the auction.
I am quite aware if you want to win an item a snipe bid can be very effective but no one is stealing cards with snipes they are paying full price or more.
Dealers can sit and wait for two collector-competitors to drive a card up...but the longer you wait, the higher pop the card becomes.
<< <i>This is exactly where the advent of snipe bidding is killing auctions. If you don't have any bids with an hour to go you will cancel the auction with the natural concern of it selling for an extremely low amount.
There may in reality be three bidders ready to snipe but becuase no one has expressed any interest the risk is very high to not cancel them and instead eat the small cost of the auction.
I am quite aware if you want to win an item a snipe bid can be very effective but no one is stealing cards with snipes they are paying full price or more. >>
When you begin an auction at 0.99 you are agreeing to let your item sell for at least that.
Most of the big bids are in the final few minutes and seconds. Anything over 0.99 should be considered a bonus. Otherwise, start the auctions higher.
There are plenty of sets where you are not going to see an explosion in pop reports for a given card.
I won a 1982 Wrestling All Stars Ricky Steamboat PSA 9 recently and trust me you will never see a ton of these. I have 18 of this card and got three PSA 8's out of the best of the bunch I subbed.
You mentioned recently you would pay huge money for a Mike Bossy O-pee-chee card in a 10 and there are none of those in a 10. If you are simply referring to rare commons then yes an increase in the population reports could hurt there value but a blanket statement is not warented when it comes to all cards.
Wow that is realy funny. Many of the most in demand auctions start at $0.99 becuase there will be buyers.
I have started all my auctions at $0.99 and had great results simply becuase they were rare in demand items.
Many items will get lost in the shuffle and given away.
Here is a card that can start at $0.99
If I started a Gretzky PSA 9 OPC RC I just know it is bringing in at least $3,800-$4,000
If I started a Hogan the only two bidders could be held in jail for indecent exposure while wrestling in front of a K-Mart...
..then I've agreed to let it go for 0.99. And we know they didn't have snipes set
The 1982 Wrestling All Stars Hogan in PSA 9 or BGS 9 will turn into a feeding frenzy I promise. There are no PSA 10's.
As I stated severall pages ago big money consistant cards can go all day in an auction but many items will sell for far less in auction format currently.
<< <i>Thanks Rich!! Those were my two 1950 Bowman PSA 9's that he bought from! As long as I make a little more than what I have in them, I am happy and will let them fly! I don't mind leaving money on the table, and if Rich can make some when he sells them, more power to him! What kills me is sellers like 707 and yepbg. They have ABSURDLY high prices on stuff (think of buying a 4 pack of toilet paper for $20), and if you make them a very fair offer on stuff, they either ignore your offer altogether, like you insulted them or something, or offer a small token off their price ($5 off a $500 asking price).......I have gotten real handy with filtering out their posts in my card hunt, and as far as I'm concerned, can keep all their cards until we all turn into a pile of sand/sawdust..... >>
Yeah I totally agree. chaz
I also firmly believe the notion that prices will return is a farce. The economy will not have a decent recovery for another three years. It will take that long to get unemployment around 7%. During that three year span, PSA will be on the hook to generate revenue and we will see a drop in the pricepoint of grading cards to entice collectors to continue subbing.
The 4.25 special is the tip of the iceberg, in two years we will be seeing 3 dollar subs. The effect of this will be larger pop reports and greater supply. The demand may come back in three years, but at that time the supply will be double of what it is now.
So, everyone can continue with there 2006 BIN prices if they want to, but the will see fewer and fewer sales.
The simple fact is that the graded card bubble has burst and prices will never return to what they were.
As a collector, this is good news to me. I will pick up dirt cheap cards when I can and be happy with that.
I was at an investment conference in Atlanta a month ago where I had the pleasure to hear the chief economist speak for John McCain's campaign and he showed us some extremely interesting unemployment data.
There have been 9 major financial crisis since 1977 and in each it took at least six years for the unemployment rate to fall to double the low of the economic boom.
We reached a low of 3.9 so if history repeats itself it will take at least until 2014 for the rate to fall below 6.8%. Spain's unemployment rate hase never reached that point and it is 33 years later.
Cards are clearly items of discretion so the longer the unemployment rate stays elevated the more collectors who at some point will either be forced to stop buying or part ways with items of value.
In terms of the supply of graded cards it remains to be seen how many high cards are sitting either unopened or laying dormant is someone's closet and that is a true unknown.
I actually think the lowering of the grading rates is a good thing becuase it is cleary a positive for set collectors. I sub wrestling cards and many are not even worth the cost of grading raw but becuase of these specials I can sub them to complete sets without a huge out of pocket expense.
<< <i>I filter out all BIN and look at auctions only. I am more of cheapskate in my buying. That is actually the part that I enjoy, trying to find a bargain.
I also firmly believe the notion that prices will return is a farce. The economy will not have a decent recovery for another three years. It will take that long to get unemployment around 7%. During that three year span, PSA will be on the hook to generate revenue and we will see a drop in the pricepoint of grading cards to entice collectors to continue subbing.
The 4.25 special is the tip of the iceberg, in two years we will be seeing 3 dollar subs. The effect of this will be larger pop reports and greater supply. The demand may come back in three years, but at that time the supply will be double of what it is now.
So, everyone can continue with there 2006 BIN prices if they want to, but the will see fewer and fewer sales.
The simple fact is that the graded card bubble has burst and prices will never return to what they were.
As a collector, this is good news to me. I will pick up dirt cheap cards when I can and be happy with that. >>
Mark it down...another cheap skate bottom feeder....it's guys like this who are the enemy... but we will wait him out smoke him out till he comes begging for all of our vintage PSA 7's and PSA 8's that he can't get anymore !!! All dealers and collectors UNITE against this bargain hunting, cheap skate menace !!!!!!! LOL chaz
"Molon Labe"
<< <i>Bottom feeder is my nickname and I like it. >>
Hell, it's my sig line now.
<< <i>I filter out all BIN and look at auctions only. I am more of cheapskate in my buying. That is actually the part that I enjoy, trying to find a bargain.
I also firmly believe the notion that prices will return is a farce. The economy will not have a decent recovery for another three years. It will take that long to get unemployment around 7%. During that three year span, PSA will be on the hook to generate revenue and we will see a drop in the pricepoint of grading cards to entice collectors to continue subbing.
The 4.25 special is the tip of the iceberg, in two years we will be seeing 3 dollar subs. The effect of this will be larger pop reports and greater supply. The demand may come back in three years, but at that time the supply will be double of what it is now.
So, everyone can continue with there 2006 BIN prices if they want to, but the will see fewer and fewer sales.
The simple fact is that the graded card bubble has burst and prices will never return to what they were.
As a collector, this is good news to me. I will pick up dirt cheap cards when I can and be happy with that. >>
Agreed. However it will take more than $3 subs to get me subbing again. PSA would have to drop their membership fee first, then i would think about gambling my money away.
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<< <i>This is exactly where the advent of snipe bidding is killing auctions. If you don't have any bids with an hour to go you will cancel the auction with the natural concern of it selling for an extremely low amount.
There may in reality be three bidders ready to snipe but becuase no one has expressed any interest the risk is very high to not cancel them and instead eat the small cost of the auction.
I am quite aware if you want to win an item a snipe bid can be very effective but no one is stealing cards with snipes they are paying full price or more. >>
When you begin an auction at 0.99 you are agreeing to let your item sell for at least that.
Most of the big bids are in the final few minutes and seconds. Anything over 0.99 should be considered a bonus. Otherwise, start the auctions higher. >>
if you noticed I said 20 auctions not sport related some of the 20 auctions are silver dollars that I can still spend for 1 dollar or take down to the local scrap dealer and get 20.00 a piece for. I just forgot this was a holiday weekend. so I should just smile and sell one for 99 cents because snipe bids failed which has happened before, or start them at 20.00 a piece which costs like 40 cents more per auction and have no one bid. it is a catch 22 screwed if you do and screwed if you don't
I remember a yr or 2 ago having one low pop psa 8 72 topps BB card started it at 9.99 ran it twice on 7 day auctions no bids then ran it for 99 cents and it ended up at 52.00 (go figure). I also remember running a 72 PSA 9 Johnny Bench @99 cents and ended up selling for the new lowest ever VCP price of 116.00 (go figure) lost like 90.00 bucks on that one. ebay is unpredictable at best and as said before the best match mumbo jumbo isn't helping sellers either. If the sellers keep getting beat up and giving stuff away on auctions ebay will turn into 99.5% BIN or very high starting bids & .05% 99 cent auctions for cards that aren't worth a quarter except the select few exceptions Mantles, Jordan, Gretzky, ect ect.
The idea that every seller uses a shill bidder to drive up prices and this being the reason to use nothing but snipe bid is a joke, I don't believe the problem is really that bad, yes there are a few sellers that do use shill bidders and hopefully ebay will remove them, I would say 99.8% of sellers don't use shill bidders.
The idea that you should be able to buy/win a graded card card at 10% to 20% back (VCP) of what the last one sold for is a joke also, if everything keeps going down in price. Collectors & sellers will be few & far between.
I give credit to sellers that have the guts/balls to start every auction at 99 cents and let it ride, those sellers are few and far between even 4SC doesn't run all their auctions at 99 cent start bid anymore.
whether anyone will admit it or not 99.9% of collectors want to see the value of their collection go up in value or at worst stay the same.
I remember over the years hearing collectors of other items saying I collect for fun not for value and wish all the dealers would go away, so I could get item xyz for 5 or 10 bucks, and then the bottom falls out and these same collectors are screaming the loudest what happened why is item xyz only selling for a dollar and nobody even wants it for a dollar. well they got their wish.
So all you lowballers & cheapskates be careful what you wish for it might come true.
Happy Thanksgiving to all, and whatever you collect may it go up in value.
PS: Chaz = +3 , Cheapskates = 0 great thread!!!
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<< <i>This is exactly where the advent of snipe bidding is killing auctions. If you don't have any bids with an hour to go you will cancel the auction with the natural concern of it selling for an extremely low amount.
There may in reality be three bidders ready to snipe but becuase no one has expressed any interest the risk is very high to not cancel them and instead eat the small cost of the auction.
I am quite aware if you want to win an item a snipe bid can be very effective but no one is stealing cards with snipes they are paying full price or more. >>
When you begin an auction at 0.99 you are agreeing to let your item sell for at least that.
Most of the big bids are in the final few minutes and seconds. Anything over 0.99 should be considered a bonus. Otherwise, start the auctions higher. >>
if you noticed I said 20 auctions not sport related some of the 20 auctions are silver dollars that I can still spend for 1 dollar or take down to the local scrap dealer and get 20.00 a piece for. I just forgot this was a holiday weekend. so I should just smile and sell one for 99 cents because snipe bids failed which has happened before, or start them at 20.00 a piece which costs like 40 cents more per auction and have no one bid. it is a catch 22 screwed if you do and screwed if you don't
I remember a yr or 2 ago having one low pop psa 8 72 topps BB card started it at 9.99 ran it twice on 7 day auctions no bids then ran it for 99 cents and it ended up at 52.00 (go figure). I also remember running a 72 PSA 9 Johnny Bench @99 cents and ended up selling for the new lowest ever VCP price of 116.00 (go figure) lost like 90.00 bucks on that one. ebay is unpredictable at best and as said before the best match mumbo jumbo isn't helping sellers either. If the sellers keep getting beat up and giving stuff away on auctions ebay will turn into 99.5% BIN or very high starting bids & .05% 99 cent auctions for cards that aren't worth a quarter except the select few exceptions Mantles, Jordan, Gretzky, ect ect.
The idea that every seller uses a shill bidder to drive up prices and this being the reason to use nothing but snipe bid is a joke, I don't believe the problem is really that bad, yes there are a few sellers that do use shill bidders and hopefully ebay will remove them, I would say 99.8% of sellers don't use shill bidders.
The idea that you should be able to buy/win a graded card card at 10% to 20% back (VCP) of what the last one sold for is a joke also, if everything keeps going down in price. Collectors & sellers will be few & far between.
I give credit to sellers that have the guts/balls to start every auction at 99 cents and let it ride, those sellers are few and far between even 4SC doesn't run all their auctions at 99 cent start bid anymore.
whether anyone will admit it or not 99.9% of collectors want to see the value of their collection go up in value or at worst stay the same.
I remember over the years hearing collectors of other items saying I collect for fun not for value and wish all the dealers would go away, so I could get item xyz for 5 or 10 bucks, and then the bottom falls out and these same collectors are screaming the loudest what happened why is item xyz only selling for a dollar and nobody even wants it for a dollar. well they got their wish.
So all you lowballers & cheapskates be careful what you wish for it might come true.
Happy Thanksgiving to all, and whatever you collect may it go up in value.
PS: Chaz = +3 , Cheapskates = 0 great thread!!! >>
Happy Thanksgiving.
It doesn't matter if you list a $100 bill -- if you start it at 0.99 you are agreeing to let it go for at least that. Got to pay that extra price.
BTW - I believe eBay lets you list the first 100 auctions per month at any starting price for free...at least they do for me.
It really is a tough issue to get a 10 on (and a real issue, not something that was produced in a guy's basement - literally)
Dave
There is no doubt there is a bigger collector base for hockey but scarcity rules the day and it is going to be almost impossible for a Hogan to ever grade a 10 and if a PSA version surfaces I will be bidding heavily.
Remember when there is no supply of something and there is huge demand, the price can go a long way. Most of the high end wrestling stuff lately has been going to bidders with almost all baseball and basketball bids.
<< <i>BTW - I believe eBay lets you list the first 100 auctions per month at any starting price for free...at least they do for me. >>
That's a promotion going on until early January which compliments the usual 100 free auctions a month if you start them at .99 or lower. I also believe they are doing free BINs now as well (but it ends soon I think)
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<< <i>BTW - I believe eBay lets you list the first 100 auctions per month at any starting price for free...at least they do for me. >>
That's a promotion going on until early January which compliments the usual 100 free auctions a month if you start them at .99 or lower. I also believe they are doing free BINs now as well (but it ends soon I think) >>
ah, that sucks. eh well, get it while it is there.
diamondman - just going to have to factor that cost into everything -- even if an item doesn't sell in a store, you still have to pay for the shelf space.
November 26, 2010
Listing Counts
eBay 113,133,666
eCrater 3,765,353
Bonanzle 3,543,414
......
Total PSA Cards: 203,366
Auctions: 22,697
BINs: 182,569
Total PSA Baseball Cards: 140,385
Auctions: 14,849
BINs: 126,717
Total PSA Football Cards: 34,431
Auctions: 4,268
BINs: 30,645
Total PSA Non-Sports Cards: 1,774
Auctions: 25
BINs: 1749
PSA Wrestling Cards: 56
Auctions: 4
BINs: 52
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Americans Still Abandoning Online Purchases Due To Security
Majority of Americans shop online
November 18, 2010
By Mike Sachoff
Nearly two-thirds (64%) of Americans have not made an online purchase because of security concerns, according to a new poll by the National Cyber Security Alliance (NCSA).
When asked to explain why they did not make that purchase, 60 percent said it was because they were not sure if the site was secure, 51.4 percent were worried about providing information requested, and 48.4 percent felt a website requested more information than was necessary for the transaction.
The poll found 69.3 percent of Americans research potential purchases on the Internet, 68 percent make purchases online, 62.4 percent make online payments, and 38 percent buy items from online auction sites.
Those researching potential purchases from their phones also grew to 16 percent, up from 9 percent in 2009. A recent study published by NCSA and Norton by Symantec found that 87 percent of Americans felt safer going online with their PCs than with their phones.
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Hopefully, the useful part of this wave will reach the US in 2011.
Legislation may be required to allow sellers to freely offer ANY
and ALL payment methods, but it is possible that it could happen
inside of the administrative rule/regulation provisions of the 2010
consumer protection and financial legislation.
.................
PayPal No Longer Mandatory on eBay France
By Ina Steiner / auctionbytes.com
November 25, 2010
eBay sellers in France are no longer required to offer PayPal as a payment method in their listings, effective November 16, 2010. eBay France had begun requiring all sellers accept PayPal last October. In some cases, sellers will still be required to accept PayPal - for example, if they have recently received negative feedback from buyers.
The eBay France announcement informed sellers who use eBay's Turbo Lister listing tool that they must get an updated version of the software if they no longer wished to offer PayPal as a payment method.
According to an AuctionBytes reader in Canada, French sellers had mounted a campaign to have eBay rescind its PayPal payment policy. He wrote, "Thanks to strong French legislation, eBay had no choice but to back off," adding, "Needless to say, many French sellers are ecstatic."
Two years ago, eBay had proposed banning all methods of payment except for its own PayPal service on its Australian marketplace, but was forced by the ACCC government regulatory agency to back down, and earlier this year, it, too, was pressured to stop making PayPal a mandatory payment method.
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<< <i>Hopefully, the useful part of this wave will reach the US in 2011.
Legislation may be required to allow sellers to freely offer ANY
and ALL payment methods, but it is possible that it could happen
inside of the administrative rule/regulation provisions of the 2010
consumer protection and financial legislation.
.................
PayPal No Longer Mandatory on eBay France
By Ina Steiner / auctionbytes.com
November 25, 2010
eBay sellers in France are no longer required to offer PayPal as a payment method in their listings, effective November 16, 2010. eBay France had begun requiring all sellers accept PayPal last October. In some cases, sellers will still be required to accept PayPal - for example, if they have recently received negative feedback from buyers.
The eBay France announcement informed sellers who use eBay's Turbo Lister listing tool that they must get an updated version of the software if they no longer wished to offer PayPal as a payment method.
According to an AuctionBytes reader in Canada, French sellers had mounted a campaign to have eBay rescind its PayPal payment policy. He wrote, "Thanks to strong French legislation, eBay had no choice but to back off," adding, "Needless to say, many French sellers are ecstatic."
Two years ago, eBay had proposed banning all methods of payment except for its own PayPal service on its Australian marketplace, but was forced by the ACCC government regulatory agency to back down, and earlier this year, it, too, was pressured to stop making PayPal a mandatory payment method.
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Storm- it's what we have been saying all along ...that Pigpal is just that .......a fat pig monopoly that has to be carved up (who the hell do they think they are stipulating that you can only use Pigpal as the sole source of payment...what happened to consumer protection?...ridiculous). As I see, you have also listed 2 other auction alternatives to Feebay (ecrater and bonanzil), these are worth looking into and I plan on doing just that. Thanks. chaz
A more interesting count would then be the percentage of "true" auctions which lack bid activity from the auctioneer, consignor, friend or acquaintance.
Storm- it's what we have been saying all along ...that Pigpal is just that .......a fat pig monopoly that has to be carved up (who the hell do they think they are stipulating that you can only use Pigpal as the sole source of payment...what happened to consumer protection?...ridiculous). As I see, you have also listed 2 other auction alternatives to Feebay (ecrater and bonanzil), these are worth looking into and I plan on doing just that. Thanks. chaz
I can't wait to see the auction results going into VCP from the entrepreneurs running "true" 99 cent auctions on ecrater and bonanzil.