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  • HallcoHallco Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hope Oregon and Auburn both lose. Then they can just crown TCU the champs without even having to play the BCS Championship Game!!! image
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    Interesting piece at ESPN.com. It's questions/answers with their BCS expert. Some of the above issues are dealt with by this expert rather than us idiots. Check it out:

    LINK
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    Why is Cam Newton being treated than Reggie Bush? I thought with Bush it was shown to be his parents (or other relatives) got benefits but $C and Bush himself suffered. With Newton it's no problem!? Seems like unequal treatment to me. I don't know all the details so maybe someone from SEC country can give me the SEC view!?


  • << <i>Why is Cam Newton being treated than Reggie Bush? I thought with Bush it was shown to be his parents (or other relatives) got benefits but $C and Bush himself suffered. With Newton it's no problem!? Seems like unequal treatment to me. I don't know all the details so maybe someone from SEC country can give me the SEC view!? >>



    Its not sounding too good. Things are sounding very shaky for the Auburn program.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    Its not sounding too good. Things are sounding very shaky for the Auburn program.

    They cleared him yesterday. Said it was his dad not Cam and so Cam and Auburn are in the clear. It just does not seem to balance with the Bush/U$C treatment!?


  • << <i>Its not sounding too good. Things are sounding very shaky for the Auburn program.

    They cleared him yesterday. Said it was his dad not Cam and so Cam and Auburn are in the clear. It just does not seem to balance with the Bush/U$C treatment!? >>



    I dont think he is cleared at all. I was listenning to the herd today, and they said the investigation is not complete. It doesnt matter if it was Cam's dad. It was Reggie Bush's dad that got USC knocked with all of those probations. Same with this story.
  • CrimsonTiderCrimsonTider Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭
    Reggie Bush's agent gave reciepts to the NCAA as proof of the 300,000 worth of payments. If such proof was to show up, the Cam would be deemed ineligable and Auburn will have to forfiet all games he played in.

    If proof surfaces that Auburn made such payments then they will have penalties levied against them too.

    collecting Dale Murphy and OPC
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    Rooting for the Bruins to beat the Trojans in one of the rare years where absolutely nothing is at stake except city bragging rights.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    What's the opening line going to be on Auburn v. Oregon?

    Auburn by 3 points?

    Hopefully Oregon can play like they did earlier in the season and not the last few weeks.

    Should be a good one!
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Waa Hoo...the rodents did not spoil the Ducks season. This old fart is completely thrilled.

    Ken
  • SheamasterSheamaster Posts: 542 ✭✭✭
    Should be a great championship.
  • Will probably be one of the highest scoring championship games that's for sure.


  • << <i>What's the opening line going to be on Auburn v. Oregon?

    Auburn by 3 points?

    ! >>



    The bookies are smarter then the public. They know the scores of the past four BCS championship games, and
    that another SEC team is here once again. I think they'll try to entice people to bet Oregon by laying a line of 6.5 to 8.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    The bookies are smarter then the public. They know the scores of the past four BCS championship games, and
    that another SEC team is here once again. I think they'll try to entice people to bet Oregon by laying a line of 6.5 to 8.


    What's your prediction for the game? Is Oregon just going to forfeit rather than play against the mighty SEC?
  • Does Oregon have any answer for Cam Newton ? Is their defense really capable of putting the clamps down on Auburn ?

    What's Oregon going to do with Nick Fairley on the inside of Auburn's D-line ? Nothing. So they're going to try to run wide, and
    will they beat Auburns speed to the outside ? Their only chance is creating enough time in the pocket with some roll outs and
    finding receivers deep down the field. If they can do that, then they can keep it close, maybe.

    Auburn has a great shot of putting anywhere from 40-55 points on the board. They could easily have 28 by halftime,
    and 28 more in the 2nd half. Will Oregons offense keep up with Auburns offense ? I don't think so.

    This game looks like it is in the 48-34 range for Auburn. It does not look any closer to me.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    This game looks like it is in the 48-34 range for Auburn. It does not look any closer to me.

    I am hoping for the opposite result with approximately the same score. I don't believe Auburn has seen an offense like Oregon's before!


  • << <i> I don't believe Auburn has seen an offense like Oregon's before! >>



    This is a joke, right ?

    Auburn's defense sees the same exact offense in practice everyday, with the hands down Heismann trophy winner
    running the show.


  • << <i>Does Oregon have any answer for Cam Newton ? >>




    Does anyone?

    He has to be one of the most amazing players I have ever seen.


  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    Auburn's defense sees the same exact offense in practice everyday, with the hands down Heismann trophy winner
    running the show.


    Ya you're right. Not sure why Oregon even bothers showing up.

    SEC is the greatest thing ever... well, tied with Albert Pujols and sliced bread!
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Does Oregon have any answer for Cam Newton ? Is their defense really capable of putting the clamps down on Auburn ?

    What's Oregon going to do with Nick Fairley on the inside of Auburn's D-line ? Nothing. So they're going to try to run wide, and
    will they beat Auburns speed to the outside ? Their only chance is creating enough time in the pocket with some roll outs and
    finding receivers deep down the field. If they can do that, then they can keep it close, maybe.

    Auburn has a great shot of putting anywhere from 40-55 points on the board. They could easily have 28 by halftime,
    and 28 more in the 2nd half. Will Oregons offense keep up with Auburns offense ? I don't think so.

    This game looks like it is in the 48-34 range for Auburn. It does not look any closer to me. >>



    After this post we just give up. Kelly will call Auburn tomorrow morning and call off the game because the offense and defense both just suck.

    Hey Edmund.

    Have you watched Oregon at all this year? How about last Saturday? Is Fairly that much better than Paea the kid from Oregon State that Oregon handled. Is Newton that much better than Luck from Stanford?

    Instead of a bunch of bull why can't we just wait and see what happens. Your SEC chest thumping gets old.

    I have hopes of a good game with the better team on the day winning. That is all.

    Ken
  • Hopefully Newton has the heisman jinx. Go Ducks and go Bucks image


  • << <i>

    << <i>Does Oregon have any answer for Cam Newton ? Is their defense really capable of putting the clamps down on Auburn ?

    What's Oregon going to do with Nick Fairley on the inside of Auburn's D-line ? Nothing. So they're going to try to run wide, and
    will they beat Auburns speed to the outside ? Their only chance is creating enough time in the pocket with some roll outs and
    finding receivers deep down the field. If they can do that, then they can keep it close, maybe.

    Auburn has a great shot of putting anywhere from 40-55 points on the board. They could easily have 28 by halftime,
    and 28 more in the 2nd half. Will Oregons offense keep up with Auburns offense ? I don't think so.

    This game looks like it is in the 48-34 range for Auburn. It does not look any closer to me. >>



    After this post we just give up. Kelly will call Auburn tomorrow morning and call off the game because the offense and defense both just suck.

    Hey Edmund.

    Have you watched Oregon at all this year? How about last Saturday? Is Fairly that much better than Paea the kid from Oregon State that Oregon handled. Is Newton that much better than Luck from Stanford?

    Instead of a bunch of bull why can't we just wait and see what happens. Your SEC chest thumping gets old.

    I have hopes of a good game with the better team on the day winning. That is all.

    Ken >>

  • Yes, I've seen Oregon three times this year. Once against Tennessee, against Oregon State, and against Cal.

    Oregon has beaten one Top 25 team all year. The crap 10 is full of soft teams. If you believe that Oregon is faster
    then Auburn, and if you believe that Oregon has a better quarterback then Auburn (the most important position on the field),
    and if you believe that Oregons defense is as good as Auburn, then Santa Claus will soon be visiting your living room.

    No SEC chest thumping here. Just stating the facts. Auburn is a better football team then Oregon. Oregon has
    played cupcakes this year. Oregon will have to be perfect for 60 minutes to beat Auburn.
  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Auburn's defense sees the same exact offense in practice everyday, with the hands down Heismann trophy winner
    running the show.


    Ya you're right. Not sure why Oregon even bothers showing up.

    SEC is the greatest thing ever... well, tied with Albert Pujols and sliced bread! >>



    + 1 for making fun of the SEC and using Albert Pujols in the same sentence!!!
    Good response!


    Yes the SEC is the best conference ever!!!!! I wonder why the NCAA would even schedule any non-SEC teams in any of the BCS games? How good of a team could Oregon or Stanford be playing the Weak West Teams? Maybe Oregon will realize how impossible it will be to be a SEC Powerhouse and decide to skip the Championship game. lol

    Hopefully Oregon and Stanford will win their games.

    brian

  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    I only found the line on one website and it's Auburn by 2.5. I guessed 3 so that's about right. I guess they are tempting SEC fan to take Auburn!?
  • Highest ranked team Oregon defeated..#4 Stanford.

    Highest ranked team Auburn defeated...#8 Arkansas.

    I think at #9 Michigan state at 11-1 should be ranked ahead of Arkansas.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    Highest ranked team Oregon defeated..#4 Stanford.

    Highest ranked team Auburn defeated...#8 Arkansas.



    I guess those facts didn't make the newspaper in SEC country!?

    Seriously though, I think it will be a great game. I am just sorry we have to wait a month for it.
  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just curious.

    Nevada is 12-1 this year, losing only to Hawaii (I think).

    If Nevada has not lost one game and instead had a 13-0 record, where would it be in the BCS rankings?

    I doubt it would be in a BCS bowl game, but it should be ranked higher than it currently is (#15 or #17?).

    Boise State was at the top of the BCS rankings most of the year in large part due to its sucess this season and its success over the past number of years. Nevada does not have the same name recognition that Boise State does since it has not been as successful as Boise State over the past number of years.

    Your thoughts?
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    I think Nevada would have been treated as Boise was a few years ago. They would only inch their way up the standings. Spend two weeks at 19, a week or two weeks at 18, etc... and then get bogged down at about 10-12 where the one, and even two, loss teams from the big conferences would stay ahead of them. They would totally peaked at around 8-10 just behind all 1 loss teams and a couple of 2 loss teams. Basically, where Boise is right now.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    Also, I think Nevada gave up a lot of points which would work against them when the pollsters look for any reason to keep from moving them up.


  • << <i>Highest ranked team Oregon defeated..#4 Stanford.

    Highest ranked team Auburn defeated...#8 Arkansas.



    I guess those facts didn't make the newspaper in SEC country!?

    Seriously though, I think it will be a great game. I am just sorry we have to wait a month for it. >>




    Here, let me fix this for you................

    ONLY ranked team Oregon defeated.....Stanford

    How many teams did Stanford beat that finished in the Top 25 ??? Anyone care to guess image

    ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!


    So Oregon has one "quality" win against a Top 25 school that has absolutely zero wins against
    any top 25 school. I see that that crap-10 school Stanford loves to feast on cupcakes just like the Ducks do. image


  • << <i>

    I think at #9 Michigan state at 11-1 should be ranked ahead of Arkansas. >>



    Please let me know what you're thinking after the Crimson Tide beat the Spartans. image


  • << <i>

    << <i>

    I think at #9 Michigan state at 11-1 should be ranked ahead of Arkansas. >>



    Please let me know what you're thinking after the Crimson Tide beat the Spartans. image >>



    Good matchup. Nick Sabon going up against his former team.


  • << <i>

    << <i>Highest ranked team Oregon defeated..#4 Stanford.

    Highest ranked team Auburn defeated...#8 Arkansas.



    I guess those facts didn't make the newspaper in SEC country!?

    Seriously though, I think it will be a great game. I am just sorry we have to wait a month for it. >>




    Here, let me fix this for you................

    ONLY ranked team Oregon defeated.....Stanford

    How many teams did Stanford beat that finished in the Top 25 ??? Anyone care to guess image

    ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!


    So Oregon has one "quality" win against a Top 25 school that has absolutely zero wins against
    any top 25 school. I see that that crap-10 school Stanford loves to feast on cupcakes just like the Ducks do. image >>



    Oregon beat some other teams that are in bowl games. Arizona and USC wouldve made a bowl if they were eligible.
  • Strength of Schedule

    Auburn-3
    Oregon-81

    LINK


  • << <i>Strength of Schedule

    Auburn-3
    Oregon-81

    LINK >>



    Pssst...Hey Goot.....Delete this post. Immediately. It's kind of like telling them there's no santa claus.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    Pssst...Hey Goot.....Delete this post. Immediately. It's kind of like telling them there's no santa claus.

    Edmund-
    The difference is that young Goot acts like an adult and respectfully makes a post. He doesn't come across as a complete a-hole as you do with nearly every single post you make. Many adults make points/arguments without being rude to the other party. You might try that and people wouldn't hate you so much. I realize that's your style and you think it works for you but all it does is make you look like a complete a-hole. Just my two cents.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oregon- Auburn will be a good match up. I would not under estimate the Ducks as they are probably the best second half team in the country.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.



  • << <i>

    << <i>Strength of Schedule

    Auburn-3
    Oregon-81

    >>



    Oregon mustve had an awfully soft non-conference schedule. Hard to believe there were 80 teams that had tougher schedules being in a major conference.
  • Oregon played

    New Mexico: 1-11
    Tenn 6-6
    1AA Portland State 2-9


    Plus then you need to take into account that only 4 teams in the Pac 10 are above .500 this season. Oregon (12-0), Stanford (11-1), USC (8-5), Arizona (7-5).



    BTW, I'm not saying Oregon doesn't deserve to be playing in the title game at all. I think they are a great team and it should be a good game!
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Strength of Schedule

    Auburn-3
    Oregon-81

    LINK >>



    Here is the highlight of your link.

    Records include games against Division I opponents only.

    Maybe try someother service and see how the Strength of Schedule looks. Granted Oregon played Portland State, another team backed out, and the New Mexico team but the schedule was not made yesterday. Maybe starting with LSU will make some people happier next year.

    Ken


  • << <i>

    Many adults make points/arguments without being rude to the other party. You might try that and people wouldn't hate you so much. I realize that's your style and you think it works for you but all it does is make you look like a complete a-hole. Just my two cents. >>



    A. This is a message board. I could care less how people feel about me on it.

    B. Even professional athletes like Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, and others joke around and trash talk
    about sports. When the camera is on, pros talk professionally. When the camera is off, you should hear what
    these guys say. Believe me, I've been around them. And just wait until they get a few drinks in them.

    C. When I call the crap-10 the crap-10, it's just a fact. Other posters and Sagarin feel its the best thing since
    sliced bread. The crap-10 has been pitiful this year. Stanford and Oregon have not beat a quality team this year.
    Yet, others try to tell me how good Oregon is. I guess I should just agree with you all to make you feel better.

    D. People hated Jesus, and he was the nicest guy on earth. People hate Obama, and he seems like a nice guy too.
    People are just going to hate. That's people. I don't hate anyone here.



  • << <i>

    << <i>



    C. When I call the crap-10 the crap-10, it's just a fact. >>



    According to who? The pac 10 are 9-5 in BCS bowl games. Far from crap. Oregon beat a higher ranked team than Auburn and they also beat a sec team.
  • You can argue strength of schedule all you want. Fact is that the SEC has more ranked Top 25 teams this year then any other conference.

    Look at how the best of the SEC has fared against the rest of the BCS teams since its inception. Keep in mind
    when looking at this that USC has played all their bowl games in their home stadium.....................


    BCS Conference Records

    SEC 14-5
    Florida 5-1
    Rest 9-4

    Pac 10 8-5
    USC 5*-1
    Rest 3-4

    Big 10 10-11
    Ohio St 5-3
    Rest 5-8

    Big 12 7-10
    Texas 3-1
    Rest 4-9

    Big East 6-6
    Miami 3-1
    Rest 3-5

    ACC 2-10

    Notre Dame 0-3


  • << <i>

    The pac 10 are 9-5 in BCS bowl games. Far from crap. Oregon beat a higher ranked team than Auburn and they also beat a sec team. >>




    Oregon beat a Tennessee team that had a brand new offensive line and a brand new qb. Wow. I'm impressed.
    How many Top 25 teams did Tennessee beat this year ? Answer..... Zero

    How many final Top 25 teams did Stanford beat this year ? Answer....Zero

    The Pac-10 is below .500 in BCS bowl games if you take out USC, who by the way plays all their BCS bowl games
    in their own backyard.

    The SEC is well above .500 in their BCS bowls games even if you take out two time champion Florida.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    Keep in mind when looking at this that USC has played all their bowl games in their home stadium.....................



    What? They haven't played a "bowl" game in the LA Memorial Colisium since the "Pro Bowl" in about 1978.
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So Edmund I ask again. Just who is your team? I'm still thinking its FSU and since they are down a bit you are now a BandWagon SEC troll.

    Answer Troll!! Others tell who they live and die with. Crawl under your bed again and get the hell out of this thread.

    Ken
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    Obvioulsy Cam Newton will win the Heisman and rightly so. Assuming his family didn't break NCAA rules... but either way he was clearly the best player. However, it's an interesting to note of the final 4, two are from the Pac 10 and the 4th is from Boise State. Just saying.....
  • markj111markj111 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Obvioulsy Cam Newton will win the Heisman and rightly so. Assuming his family didn't break NCAA rules... but either way he was clearly the best player. However, it's an interesting to note of the final 4, two are from the Pac 10 and the 4th is from Boise State. Just saying..... >>




    If that's all you're saying, what's yout point?
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